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June 10, 2023, 09:54:26 AM
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congrats to Denver, two wins on the road, and they are now really close to get first title, Jokic was good, but Gordon took the stage last night and gave all
it is probably due to Heat trying to stop Jokic and Murray, and someone else rised to score their points

from 1:3 to 4:3 is possible, but not for this Miami, they can win one more and that is it, probably not even that

This is obviously a huge win for the Denver Nuggets. Now this is going to give them a huge advantage going forward. Miami Heat's last game in the third quarter in my opinion. The difference was created in the third quarter and it was really hard for them to make up the difference. I do think that it is possible for Miami Heat to win. But it is honestly not very probable. From 1-3 to 4-3 it’s going to take a lot of dedication and consistency which I don’t think the Miami Heat can actually deliver. I think Denver Nuggets are going to be the winner in the end.


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June 10, 2023, 10:09:07 AM
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It's over guys, it's over.  Grin

Yet another strong performance by Denver and yet another strong start in the 4th by Miami.
In game one they started the 4th with a 8:0 run, in game 2 they equalized and 8 point deficit super fast and today again, started 8:0 to make Denver sweat again.

But unlike in game 2 Denver had the right response and closed the game out with ease.

This team is so deep, even with Murray struggling and only making 5/17 from the field there are players like Gordon and Braun to pick up the pieces and have a strong performance. This tram is scary.

Unfortunately for Miami, Butler and Adebayo didn't get any help so now there will only 1 more game, if Denver doesn't blow it.  Grin . But they won't.

This was a rather boring finals series but with the right and well deserved winner. I know it's not over at 3:1 but there is no way possible Miami is coming back from this. Not this season and not against this Denver team.

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June 10, 2023, 10:26:43 AM
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congrats to Denver, two wins on the road, and they are now really close to get first title, Jokic was good, but Gordon took the stage last night and gave all
it is probably due to Heat trying to stop Jokic and Murray, and someone else rised to score their points

from 1:3 to 4:3 is possible, but not for this Miami, they can win one more and that is it, probably not even that

This is obviously a huge win for the Denver Nuggets. Now this is going to give them a huge advantage going forward. Miami Heat's last game in the third quarter in my opinion. The difference was created in the third quarter and it was really hard for them to make up the difference. I do think that it is possible for Miami Heat to win. But it is honestly not very probable. From 1-3 to 4-3 it’s going to take a lot of dedication and consistency which I don’t think the Miami Heat can actually deliver. I think Denver Nuggets are going to be the winner in the end.

3rd quarter is the key for the series here, and we have seen that when the Heat won, they have a good 3rd quarter. Same with the winning by the Nuggets here, they won the 3rd quarter and that is enough for them to have that cushion. And that they just trade baskets, that's they key for them having the 3rd quarter. As entering the 4th, Heat is tired, no help for Jimmy as he almost played the whole game and yet they've lost double digit. So I guess I will ride the bandwagon on the Nuggets that it will be over in the next game and congrats to them.
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June 10, 2023, 10:50:45 AM
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Yup, a history made and also Jokic is making history after history. What a such good and tough guy, this is like the new meta in the NBA, the drafting for the next season is gonna be interesting and I guess many will take potential centers.

The number one draft pick acquired by the Spurs is a center, Victor Wembanyama. While he may not be as good as Jokic at the moment, this guy has tremendous potential. With some added muscle and continued development, he has the potential to become highly competitive. All he needs to do is stay healthy, similar to Jokic, so that one day they can face each other with equal skills, probably better.
They haven't acquired him yet but everyone is sure that they will do. The draft hasn't happened yet so there's no one that has been drafted and acquired. But those are really a possibility that will happen soon once we get there. Victor is like a young KD as they say and he's the number prospect for this year. I am sure that whoever acquires him will work on his physique not unless that's already enough for them.
Based on the history, only a few number 1 pick were even able to get their own rings but with individual success, many of them does.

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June 10, 2023, 11:10:33 AM
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It was another amazing night for Nuggets. Butler was once again not himself exactly and this helped Nuggets win even much easier. We have been saying over and over again that Butler should improve his performance in offense and play like he was doing before the final series. But it looks like his mind is still not fully concentrated on this series.

As long as Butler doesn't take extra responsibility this team don't have much potential to win a game anymore in the series. It has already become 3-1 and Jokic is getting close to carrying the team to the first championship in their history.

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June 10, 2023, 12:05:07 PM
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It was another amazing night for Nuggets. Butler was once again not himself exactly and this helped Nuggets win even much easier. We have been saying over and over again that Butler should improve his performance in offense and play like he was doing before the final series. But it looks like his mind is still not fully concentrated on this series.

As long as Butler doesn't take extra responsibility this team don't have much potential to win a game anymore in the series. It has already become 3-1 and Jokic is getting close to carrying the team to the first championship in their history.

He did actually, but it was not enough, and in order for them to win, I guess Butler has to take the scoring load as his team mates are not there for him. Maybe another 40-50 point performance might do it for him and the team.

But it will take a lot from the Heat now as they are down 3-1. And we might as well conclude that it will be the Nuggets as the new champion for this season. And I think they deserved it, winning the tough West conference and then just stomping everyone in the playoffs.
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June 10, 2023, 03:19:50 PM
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Can the Miami Heat do the same? I'll leave that question.

I highly doubt it. Even if the Heat are shooting the lights out, the Nuggets could always retaliate back hit their own. The only Heat win was even a close one though, if Murray hit that 3 pt shot the Nuggets could've won it in the overtime and could've completed another sweep today lol.
The Heat were even forced to start Kevin Love to keep up with the size discrepancy. Since the beginning of this finals series, majority of the NBA fans were expecting the Nuggets to win it all this year.
The Heat have come a long way, I hope they will get Lillard next season so they can have a higher chances of getting a shot for redemption.
True. They almost gave up that game 2 for overtime, that is why I also highly doubted them.
But, if only they won one game on these two home games I will not be in a position to hesitate and tell that they have a chance. I did it after Game 2 because I really thought they could somehow fight back against the strong Denver Nuggets with an arsenal that is difficult to defeat. After Game 4 all that hope for Butler and the Miami Heat is gone. 2 games losing in front of your own crowd, that's not them. They are the ones taking from the road and not the other way around during their Conference stint.

As I said in my previous posts, it will all start with Butler either offensive or defensive stuff. He doesn't need to carry all the load but he must always make a spark for his team mates to keep on playing at their best.
It's not easy having players who are undrafted, they need someone to boost them up and their lack of experience is showing already.
Caleb Martin, Max Struss, and Gabe Vincent, all these three players are not the same as they were during their battle against the Celtics.

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June 10, 2023, 03:36:57 PM
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3-1 Nuggets.
Lebron James and his crew back in Cleveland Cavaliers were the only ones who came back from that deficit against the Golden State Warriors. One of the most unforgettable Finals series in the league and it sure is written in history books about how impressive they are in those games.
Can the Miami Heat do the same? I'll leave that question.

I don't think the current Heat lineup will be able to do the same thing the Cavs did in the 2016 Finals. In fact, we can already say that the Nuggets have guaranteed themselves a win in this series and, consequently, the title. Special mention should go to Jokic, as he's performing much better this playoff run than he did during the regular season. It's funny that he didn't become the MVP of the regular season, but he'll definitely be the MVP of the Finals.

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June 10, 2023, 03:51:38 PM
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Denver is definitely the play tonight. Miami got lucky to win one game but they won't win another. Nuggets -3 to the bank.
I wouldn't totally say that Miami got lucky in game 2. I mean they have reach the finals already and defeating the #1 and #2 teams and #5 seed in the East. Because if we say that they got lucky means that they are not a good team. But they proved otherwise and remain the underdog throughout the playoffs and yet here they are in the finals and have another chance to win.

Although I would say it might be the most difficult series for them as it seems that Jokic and Murray are unstoppable and putting numbers during the height of the Lakers run, similar to what Shaq and Kobe are getting in the playoffs.

I agree. It is just that the Miami Heat always come short when it comes to almost every aspect in the game against Nuggets and even their offensive techniques as well as defensive strategies aren't really working against the Nuggets duo. Quite a low scoring game for the Nuggets because Jokic and Murray wasn't scoring the way they used to be but still the Heat struggled and never won a single quarter. Now that it is already 3-1, I think it's already too late for the Heat to make a comeback especially in the next game where it will be in the Nuggets playground.

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June 10, 2023, 04:26:11 PM
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Denver is definitely the play tonight. Miami got lucky to win one game but they won't win another. Nuggets -3 to the bank.
I wouldn't totally say that Miami got lucky in game 2. I mean they have reach the finals already and defeating the #1 and #2 teams and #5 seed in the East. Because if we say that they got lucky means that they are not a good team. But they proved otherwise and remain the underdog throughout the playoffs and yet here they are in the finals and have another chance to win.

Although I would say it might be the most difficult series for them as it seems that Jokic and Murray are unstoppable and putting numbers during the height of the Lakers run, similar to what Shaq and Kobe are getting in the playoffs.

I agree. It is just that the Miami Heat always come short when it comes to almost every aspect in the game against Nuggets and even their offensive techniques as well as defensive strategies aren't really working against the Nuggets duo. Quite a low scoring game for the Nuggets because Jokic and Murray wasn't scoring the way they used to be but still the Heat struggled and never won a single quarter. Now that it is already 3-1, I think it's already too late for the Heat to make a comeback, especially in the next game where it will be in the Nuggets playground.
Miami heat struggling a lot in terms of defending Jokic and Jamal Murray which is pretty good enough if they can defend that duo then they have a chance to win the game because their main problem is that duo, cause we all know how they play and scored. Also jokic and Jamal Murray prove to us that they strong enough to carry their team.

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3-1 Nuggets.
Lebron James and his crew back in Cleveland Cavaliers were the only ones who came back from that deficit against the Golden State Warriors. One of the most unforgettable Finals series in the league and it sure is written in history books about how impressive they are in those games.
Can the Miami Heat do the same? I'll leave that question.

I don't think the current Heat lineup will be able to do the same thing the Cavs did in the 2016 Finals. In fact, we can already say that the Nuggets have guaranteed themselves a win in this series and, consequently, the title. Special mention should go to Jokic, as he's performing much better this playoff run than he did during the regular season. It's funny that he didn't become the MVP of the regular season, but he'll definitely be the MVP of the Finals.

There's a meme for that where Embiid and Jokic was racing for the regular season MVP but Embiid was surprised when Jokic just neglected the trophy and went ahead further down the road, which explains their situation now as he has all the reasons in the world right now to win the FMVP for having a great performance since the playoffs have started up until now in the Finals.

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Nuggets is the team that have the best offense and best defense in the league. They don't only rely on Jokić, that's the best part. When Heat defend Murray and Jokić with 3 players, the others punish the defensive mistake. Aaron Gordon played his career game, Bruce Brown scored when all eyes on Murray and Jokić, KCP made two critical defense back to back and these all made the difference. Nuggets will finish this series at home, that's clear. And it's not Heat's fault, they faced against the best team in the NBA.

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Nuggets is the team that have the best offense and best defense in the league. They don't only rely on Jokić, that's the best part. When Heat defend Murray and Jokić with 3 players, the others punish the defensive mistake. Aaron Gordon played his career game, Bruce Brown scored when all eyes on Murray and Jokić, KCP made two critical defense back to back and these all made the difference. Nuggets will finish this series at home, that's clear. And it's not Heat's fault, they faced against the best team in the NBA.

I’m not sure I’d give the Nuggets the title of the best defensive team, but they’re top 10 for sure. I think it’s their unorthodox offensive thanks to Jokic and unusually large athletic wings that set them apart. Having Jamal Murray as a scorer isn’t bad either. I think they’ll be the NBA champions this year and it’s highly likely that will happen on Monday.

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Nuggets is the team that have the best offense and best defense in the league. They don't only rely on Jokić, that's the best part. When Heat defend Murray and Jokić with 3 players, the others punish the defensive mistake. Aaron Gordon played his career game, Bruce Brown scored when all eyes on Murray and Jokić, KCP made two critical defense back to back and these all made the difference. Nuggets will finish this series at home, that's clear. And it's not Heat's fault, they faced against the best team in the NBA.

I’m not sure I’d give the Nuggets the title of the best defensive team, but they’re top 10 for sure. I think it’s their unorthodox offensive thanks to Jokic and unusually large athletic wings that set them apart. Having Jamal Murray as a scorer isn’t bad either. I think they’ll be the NBA champions this year and it’s highly likely that will happen on Monday.

Denver might not be the top defensive team according to the stats but they are in the top 10. The offense of Denver is just too much to handle. The presence of Jokic is always a problem for the opposing teams. The Joker can dribble, pass, shoot three-pointers, and set plays. And with Denver having a healthy Jamal Murray and with some reinforcements like Gordon and KCP. Every action an opposing team does on Jokic has an opportunity cost.

The only thing that Denver lacks is deep playoff experience which would've made it interesting if they faced Boston or Milwaukee in this finals. And with a championship ring, this team might be even more dangerous in the following years should they remain healthy.

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Nuggets is the team that have the best offense and best defense in the league. They don't only rely on Jokić, that's the best part. When Heat defend Murray and Jokić with 3 players, the others punish the defensive mistake. Aaron Gordon played his career game, Bruce Brown scored when all eyes on Murray and Jokić, KCP made two critical defense back to back and these all made the difference. Nuggets will finish this series at home, that's clear. And it's not Heat's fault, they faced against the best team in the NBA.

I’m not sure I’d give the Nuggets the title of the best defensive team, but they’re top 10 for sure. I think it’s their unorthodox offensive thanks to Jokic and unusually large athletic wings that set them apart. Having Jamal Murray as a scorer isn’t bad either. I think they’ll be the NBA champions this year and it’s highly likely that will happen on Monday.

Denver might not be the top defensive team according to the stats but they are in the top 10. The offense of Denver is just too much to handle. The presence of Jokic is always a problem for the opposing teams. The Joker can dribble, pass, shoot three-pointers, and set plays. And with Denver having a healthy Jamal Murray and with some reinforcements like Gordon and KCP. Every action an opposing team does on Jokic has an opportunity cost.

The only thing that Denver lacks is deep playoff experience which would've made it interesting if they faced Boston or Milwaukee in this finals. And with a championship ring, this team might be even more dangerous in the following years should they remain healthy.

Of they basically remain in tact this team will compete for the chip for the next 5 years.  They have a winning formula that can be repeated over and over.  Having jokic on the floor eliminates of a lot of the possibility of long stretches of losses.  Next years topics will be 3 things: can wemby play in the NBA to the same level, can anyone beat the Nuggets, and who and it can be anyone, will come out of the east.

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3-1 Nuggets.
Lebron James and his crew back in Cleveland Cavaliers were the only ones who came back from that deficit against the Golden State Warriors. One of the most unforgettable Finals series in the league and it sure is written in history books about how impressive they are in those games.
Can the Miami Heat do the same? I'll leave that question.

I don't think the current Heat lineup will be able to do the same thing the Cavs did in the 2016 Finals. In fact, we can already say that the Nuggets have guaranteed themselves a win in this series and, consequently, the title. Special mention should go to Jokic, as he's performing much better this playoff run than he did during the regular season. It's funny that he didn't become the MVP of the regular season, but he'll definitely be the MVP of the Finals.
What you have written is totally correct but I was very surprised about the game 2 of this series. It was not Nuggets played bad but Miami Heat played splendidly and was just overwhelming for Nuggets. Heat were dominating. Apart from game 2 we have seen that Nuggets dominated quite hard but I can still expect a Heat resistance and I can see they win couple of games. After game 1, I was so sure Nuggets were about to win super easily but my views have changed. Even though I can see Nuggets are getting the title in the next game, we can also expect that Heat may surprise a lot of people. 
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Nuggets is the team that have the best offense and best defense in the league. They don't only rely on Jokić, that's the best part. When Heat defend Murray and Jokić with 3 players, the others punish the defensive mistake. Aaron Gordon played his career game, Bruce Brown scored when all eyes on Murray and Jokić, KCP made two critical defense back to back and these all made the difference. Nuggets will finish this series at home, that's clear. And it's not Heat's fault, they faced against the best team in the NBA.

Statistically, it was possible to say that the Nuggets would easily win this series. But I think the Miami Heat have the potential to do incredible things in the playoffs, so I have faith that maybe they can win the final series as well. But right now we can see that they don't have much of a chance anymore. I'd love to see Butler wear a championship ring, but that's not going to happen this year.
Jokic will be MVP again and we will see the best team of this year for the last time Smiley

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June 10, 2023, 08:17:39 PM
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3-1 Nuggets.
Lebron James and his crew back in Cleveland Cavaliers were the only ones who came back from that deficit against the Golden State Warriors. One of the most unforgettable Finals series in the league and it sure is written in history books about how impressive they are in those games.
Can the Miami Heat do the same? I'll leave that question.

I don't think the current Heat lineup will be able to do the same thing the Cavs did in the 2016 Finals. In fact, we can already say that the Nuggets have guaranteed themselves a win in this series and, consequently, the title. Special mention should go to Jokic, as he's performing much better this playoff run than he did during the regular season. It's funny that he didn't become the MVP of the regular season, but he'll definitely be the MVP of the Finals.
What you have written is totally correct but I was very surprised about the game 2 of this series. It was not Nuggets played bad but Miami Heat played splendidly and was just overwhelming for Nuggets. Heat were dominating. Apart from game 2 we have seen that Nuggets dominated quite hard but I can still expect a Heat resistance and I can see they win couple of games. After game 1, I was so sure Nuggets were about to win super easily but my views have changed. Even though I can see Nuggets are getting the title in the next game, we can also expect that Heat may surprise a lot of people. 

The chance for Nuggets to finish these series at home is really high, they wanted to make sure that everything was done
and they will celebrate it with their home fans.

Though maybe Heat still try to make a stand here, if they manage to win in game 2 maybe they will find ways to keep trying and snatch another game
from Nuggets.

We never know but so far Nuggets really dominating all the players inside the court are adding great perfomances.
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I agree that it is not going to be a comeback, they tried their best but their best wasn't enough. Jokic is just way too good for this league and they are doing something that can't be matched. This was one of the reasons why I thought Doncic should have gone to Denver, yes they didn't had some high pick, they had 14th pick, but if they packaged it whatever they had at the time, maybe they could have gotten the pick, imagine a scenario where Doncic and Jokic plays together, that would be insane, their pick and roll would have been even better than Murray and Jokic.

In any case, right now Jokic is unstoppable and he is on the way to win the title, he deserved it and he should have been MVP again as well if you ask me but he doesn't look like the kind of guy who cares about it at all, so FMVP must feel better.

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In any case, right now Jokic is unstoppable and he is on the way to win the title, he deserved it and he should have been MVP again as well if you ask me but he doesn't look like the kind of guy who cares about it at all, so FMVP must feel better.

Majority of the Denver Nuggets games starting from playoffs and to the current NBA Finals, there is no such thing where we can see Nikola Jokic having a worst night. As I mentioned previously, even on some games where they lose, Jokic is still ended up having a good production. And take note, not just his stats in offense but also having a good stats on his defensive end.

That's how versatile Jokic is and almost an all around player as a bigman at both offensive and defensive phase. There should be no such thing as statement as 'he deserved the Finals MVP'  because Jokic is really to bound to become the Finals MVP even before the Finals starts. Smiley

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