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Question: Decide MOIN's FUTURE (Details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237881.msg44071876#msg44071876)
The Platform on the current codebase
The Platform on the Particl codebase
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    Fortnightly Sunday Update #31

    Yes folks it is I Jookly back with another fortnightly update.  Where I tell you everything I can think of that happened in the MOIN world within the last two weeks.  Let's get to it!

    Moin Movement League

    Currently the best kept secret in crypto  Wink .  A BIG thanks to everyone participating so far.  Activity was up again this phase and the competition is looking good.  We also had a few new registrations.  There have also been some updates to the website and tasks during this phase. 

    Here are some adjustments that were made such as changing the points awarded for certain events and adding additional events. Things are changing fast so my apologies if I neglect to mention some change.
    • Verifying social media accounts reduced from 25 to 10 points
    • New Twitter tags, #Bemoin and #moinmovement
    • Tweet award reduced to 7 per tweet,1 every 24 hours (can get one award for each tag within that time)
    • New event type retweet , 8 points, 2 available every 24 hours
    • If retweets parent is part of the league then award original author bonus
    • Points for reddit post reduced from 25 to 15 points
    • New event type reddit comment , 8 points, 2 available every 24 hours
    • Similar bonus system to tweets and retweets, original author can gain points for comments
    • Activity in discord room #movementleague is now rewarded

    Moin Movement League Payouts

    I think this phase we can actually go straight off the outcome of the scores.  Cool!  I will go send out the MOIN after I am done posting this around.

    Come Hang Out Or Get Help

    As always feel free to stop by any of our communication channels if you need any assistance with the MOIN wallet, have an idea, or just want to hang out, http://www.moinmovement.org/communicate.html


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      Fortnightly Sunday Update #32

      What is up Moinarinos, hope you are all doing well out there.  Two weeks ago was the last fortnightly update.  Two weeks is a fortnight.  Well you can see where I am going with this.... ITS THE MOIN FORTNIGHTLY UPDATE!

      Moin Movement League Phase 4

      It wouldnt be a REAL Moin fortnightly update unless I start it out with the Moin Movement League portion now would it.  This week the competition was fierce as usual, a big thanks to everyone involved.  Many participants have been doing a great job reporting issues they are experiencing and just generally troubleshooting. I think everyone has been pretty happy with the payouts and I went ahead and sent the ones for Phase 4 before beginning on this write up.  The phases just continue one after another so Phase 5 has already begun. This is a really great time to participate in the moin movement league, you can even get a nice stakeable size stack of MOIN just by participating for a couple phases.

      I don't have a giant list of changes this phase but have been plugging away at what I guess we can call version two of the front end.  It is going to look a lot better but instead of tease you I will just get it done and show you in a few days.

      We Want More Info!!

      People ask me all the time for some more information about what is going on with MOIN.  I tell everything I know every two weeks in this update and for quite some time all the content has been around the movement league.  So I have struggled in a way on how to report on this lack of updates.  I don't want every update to include some sort of apology for there being no further info but I also want to address it occasionally. Hence this paragraph. Smiley

      Don't Be Shy.... Come Say Hi!

      If you swing by one of our chat rooms someone is usually pretty quick to answer questions so that is a great place to get in touch or you can also use our social media options on reddit and facebook.  Full options @ http://www.moinmovement.org/communicate.html

      Stay Hydrated!
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      August 14, 2018, 01:44:47 PM
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      Hello all. I've been meaning to make a post regarding the current state of the project and its future for a while. It took a bit longer than intended, but here it is. It's a long one.


      First off, I want to thank Jookly and the rest of the guys for holding everything together so well while I was away. I think it says something that at the arse-end of a pretty horrific bear market, almost everyone involved in the project is still here and still involved. Plus I think we've all learned a lot over the last couple of years, so, internally at least, the project is stronger than ever.

      Secondly, I'd like to apologise for the lack of communication. It was unforeseen, but I still should have dropped in or gotten word to someone. My bad. If ever I'm pulled away unexpectedly again, I'll make sure to keep everyone informed.
      I'd also like to apologise to the rest of the team - a while back I suggested that we didn't need to wait for developmental targets before making an effort to build the community. Basically, I was saying while I worked on the back-end I'd be grateful if work was done on that front by others. The team have absolutely answered the call with the reopening of the MOIN Movement League and the constant additions and improvements to it, and I haven't been keeping up my end of the bargain. Again, my apologies.

      So... it's time to get back to work.

      THE PLATFORM

      The Platform was/is (depending on what we choose) to be a content publishing platform. The wallet was to have a friendly interface allowing someone to easily create a proof-of-existence and proof-of-ownership (of a song, short film, ebook etc.)  and embed it in the MOIN blockchain. It'd then give them the option of creating a magnet link if they planned on sharing the file. The wallet was also going to have a fully-featured torrent client with a simple way to send MOIN to the originator of any file(s) you had downloaded/were downloading.

      I was pretty excited about it at the time. My excitement's waned a little since then, for several reasons. Several other projects have sprung up since then, some with systems pretty close to what I'd envisioned. And there are probably others that I'm not aware of. Also, with the scale that crypto projects have now reached, the original idea for The Platform seems a little less exciting. It's hard not to look around at some of the most innovative and exciting projects in the space and not have greater ambitions for MOIN.
      Still, I do like the idea - and should the community decide that that's the way to go, I'll be happy to work on it.

      This is the mockup of the UI crz made way back when:



      I got as far as having most of the UI coded with the client handling magnet links using libtorrent.


      MOIN'S FUTURE - The Options

      The way I see it, we have 3 main options. I've been caught between them for a while, so lets make the decision together so that we can get things moving again.


      1. PLATFORM ON THE CURRENT CODEBASE

      With this option, we'd stick with the current chain and codebase and build The Platform upon it. The advantages are that it would take less work and would allow for The Platform to be realised more quickly.

      2. THE PLATFORM ON THE PARTICL CODEBASE

      With this option, we would clone and adapt the PARTICL codebase, then build The Platform upon it. The advantages are numerous: we'd inherit some of the great features the PART team have implemented, such as Cold Staking; we'd be close enough to the Bitcoin codebase to benefit from the work of the Bitcoin Core devs; we could set aside a premined amount to fund the project. I feel like the Particl team (since the transition from SDC) have shown how with canny management a huge amount can be achieved with a fairly modest (by crypto standards at least) sum of money.

      3. RESEARCH PHASE & SOMETHING ENTIRELY NEW

      This is by far the most radical and ambitious proposal. There are developers and engineers in this space who I admire greatly. Guys like Pieter Wuille, Gregory Maxwell, Andrew Poelstra - their knowledge and skill-levels are exceptional and are something I aspire to. Fortunately crypto has put me in a position where I have the time and means to follow my curiosity.

      So this option would involve me spending some time studying mathematics, decentralised systems and the various other related fields in order to improve my general understanding, with the long-term goal of creating a system that solves at least one of the big problems in the space. It would of course take considerably more time than the above two options.

      If the community chooses this option, the current project would be maintained in so far as any critical bugs would be patched. And as any future project would almost certainly involve a new chain and code base, anyone capable would be welcome to make pull requests or contact me to discuss any bigger ideas they have for the current codebase.

      So, what does everyone think? If you can think of other points for or against any of the options, let me know in a reply and I can add them to the post.

      PLEASE VOTE FOR YOUR PREFERRED OPTION ABOVE


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      August 15, 2018, 11:28:57 PM
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      Nice to see you KingCaper! Its been a long time since the last time, well I myself haven't been in here much either posting but I do come and keep track of the fortnightly updates by Jookly. I have voted for option 2 only because I think most people would want to see the platform up and running as it has been a long wait so hopefully we will see the platform up and running soon as like you said yourself there are other project coming online and getting ahead of MOIN when it comes to the ideas you had for the platform. The key with MOIN is that its an old chain and has stood the test of time while these new projects need to prove them self first. This is why once the MOIN platform is launched I think it would do well as MOIN has been around for a few years now. Good luck!



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      August 16, 2018, 10:06:00 AM
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      In my opinion, it is better for moin to first complete the particl swap and then proceed with the platform research phase. The swap, option #2, should take place first and then be followed by a research phase of the platform. The particl swap will offer moin a lot of new features right off the bat, which will make the MOIN blockchain both more secure and scalable:
      • 1. Cold Staking
      • 2. dApps/smart contracts
      • 3. Atomic swaps
      • 4. RingCt
      • 5. Segwit
      • 6. Quantum resistant Proof of Stake
      • 7. Latest BTCitcoin core codebase
      • 8. Anon, blind, & public sending
      I believe having cold staking features is essential, cold staking is enabled with the use of a smart contracts which basically allows other nodes to stake the coins without being able to spend them, and you are rewarded the same percentage rate. Cold-staking is good because stakers don't have to worry about power outages, it increases the amount of coins being staked in a network, and most importantly people can stake their coins from cold and hardware wallets, which Particl has just accomplished. These are all factors which make a more decentralized and secure network, because everyone can earn an income, not just the big miners and mining pools with Bitcoin. The fact that people can stake and earn revenue in power outages and with minimal equipment (raspberry pi, pc, server, etc) makes it really hard for governments to ban PoS coins.

      - Segwit will be integrated from the genesis block and will allow for a scalable chain.
      - Quantum resistant proof of stake will ensure that no hackers can reverse a private key from a public key.
      - Smart contracts enable cold-staking and allow for dapps such as private messaging and DEXs to be built on top of a chain.
      - Atomic swaps will allow MOIN holders to use MOIN as a payment wherever cryptocurrency is accepted.
      - First chain to implement three forms of sending on the BTC codebase. https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn-images-1.medium.com%2Fmax%2F1600%2F1*Z8sGwEC-ZXHs-xZtljJzqQ.png&f=1
      - If you are new to particl, I recommend you read their FAQ: https://particl.wiki/faq_overview
      - If you are new to moin, you can read about it on our website: https://discovermoin.com

      I believe that these features will be favored in the long-term, as they will make MOIN a currency with many use-cases and the integration of segwit will make the chain scalable for mass adoption, and allow for upwards of 85 public transactions per second. It makes more sense to complete the swap first, because: we can always make the platform, but once the platform is made, we cannot swap to a better chain. For moin to hold up with possible mass adoption in the future, we need to consider the chain first, and then the platform.

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      August 20, 2018, 02:59:10 AM
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      Fortnightly Sunday Update #33

      Mic check mic check, one two one two, Jookly in the house with the fortnightly update.

      King Caper Returns!  Input Needed!

      For any Moiniac with half an attention this weeks big MOIN news is the return of our dev KingCaper.  If you missed the post you can see it @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1237881.msg44071876#msg44071876 .  The post outlines three options for MOIN moving forward.  You can leave your input across any MOIN community communication channels http://www.moinmovement.org/communicate.html and it will be heard.  

      Moin Movement League Phase 5

      This phase saw a big update to the moinmovement.net website.  This is probably version 2 to be honest.  It has a full new front end and a bunch of back end changes as well.  We even have page refresh and logout technology now, amazing I know....  Participation has been steady but not increasing over this period which is perfectly ok, there is lots of details to get right still so when the group that is participating is larger, everything moves forward smoothly.  If you find any problems with the site, or are just interested in helping build a really awesome website related to a cryptocurrency, or if you want to help support MOIN, or if you just want some MOIN in exchange for some social media activity, check it out, your feedback is always appreciated.

      Reminder About Being Smart With Exchanges And Trading

      Please be careful and smart out there folks.  Before you buy anything from any exchange EVER verify that the item you are buying is exactly what you think it is and that you can do with it what you want to be able to, such as sending/recieving.  Also, never take pricing data for granted, always double check primary sources and make efforts to understand reality of a situation before making decisions. I am asked to make this type of reminder due to the high price volatility reported for MOIN recently on coinmarketcap.  One contribution to this is that c-cex does not allow people to sign up. This prevents arbitrage which means the price there is largely irrelevant as the spread between it and other MOIN exchanges has no way of correcting any pricing imbalance.

      Come Hang Out!

      Want to help out with MOIN? Need some advice on your homework?  Looking for a fake telegram girlfriend?  We have all of that covered and more if you swing by one of our MOIN community channels,  Full options @ http://www.moinmovement.org/communicate.html

      MOIN!
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      August 20, 2018, 05:31:20 PM
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        Fortnightly Sunday Update #31

        Yes folks it is I Jookly back with another fortnightly update.  Where I tell you everything I can think of that happened in the MOIN world within the last two weeks.  Let's get to it!

        Moin Movement League

        Currently the best kept secret in crypto  Wink .  A BIG thanks to everyone participating so far.  Activity was up again this phase and the competition is looking good.  We also had a few new registrations.  There have also been some updates to the website and tasks during this phase. 

        Here are some adjustments that were made such as changing the points awarded for certain events and adding additional events. Things are changing fast so my apologies if I neglect to mention some change.
        • Verifying social media accounts reduced from 25 to 10 points
        • New Twitter tags, #Bemoin and #moinmovement
        • Tweet award reduced to 7 per tweet,1 every 24 hours (can get one award for each tag within that time)
        • New event type retweet , 8 points, 2 available every 24 hours
        • If retweets parent is part of the league then award original author bonus
        • Points for reddit post reduced from 25 to 15 points
        • New event type reddit comment , 8 points, 2 available every 24 hours
        • Similar bonus system to tweets and retweets, original author can gain points for comments
        • Activity in discord room #movementleague is now rewarded

        Moin Movement League Payouts

        I think this phase we can actually go straight off the outcome of the scores.  Cool!  I will go send out the MOIN after I am done posting this around.

        Come Hang Out Or Get Help

        As always feel free to stop by any of our communication channels if you need any assistance with the MOIN wallet, have an idea, or just want to hang out, http://www.moinmovement.org/communicate.html


         - Jookly

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        I had this idea of a cryptocurrency project, where people have a program/an app which they can download, create a wallet for ERC-20 tokens, as well as for other cryptocurrencies. Further more, they would be able to stake and run Nodes/Masternodes (if any) from that one app/desktop program.

        I like the first option, sounds good. You can possibly do a partnership with ColossusXT. They aim to achieve decentralized Grid computing and storage. The Storage part is what you can use, imo.[/list]
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        August 20, 2018, 05:36:36 PM
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        the efforts of the MOIN project team were simply incredible, but what happened? I had high hopes for this project.

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        August 20, 2018, 07:07:33 PM
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        the efforts of the MOIN project team were simply incredible, but what happened? I had high hopes for this project.

        we will start again soon 

        be prepared Wink
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        August 20, 2018, 10:49:46 PM
         #1431

        the efforts of the MOIN project team were simply incredible, but what happened? I had high hopes for this project.

        we will start again soon 

        be prepared Wink

        The team are still working behind the scenes and now its up to the community on which direction MOIN should head in so be sure to vote at the top of this thread on which option you would all like to see which direction MOIN should go down.



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