JaredKaragen
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December 26, 2015, 12:42:07 AM |
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All this being said, it is a fork from the original yaamp/yiimp so we're just using what was existing and haven't looked into the math. I do know though, that the miners I have pointed on zpool.ca now, make more than they did on our xpool.ca and that is from renting rigs. We started a rental pot with 0.05 BTC a week ago and its grown to 0.12 and we've been slowly renting more and more.
curious who you are renting from and what algo I like your idea... as long as the cost to rent is kept reasonable. (Curious what you are using as a trusted source, personally I haven't had great results with Nicehash and large hashrate rentals combined (found blocks lower percentage compared to the more hash i rented)) Id actually try this myself....
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December 26, 2015, 12:49:15 AM |
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All this being said, it is a fork from the original yaamp/yiimp so we're just using what was existing and haven't looked into the math. I do know though, that the miners I have pointed on zpool.ca now, make more than they did on our xpool.ca and that is from renting rigs. We started a rental pot with 0.05 BTC a week ago and its grown to 0.12 and we've been slowly renting more and more.
curious who you are renting from and what algo I like your idea... as long as the cost to rent is kept reasonable. (Curious what you are using as a trusted source, personally I haven't had great results with Nicehash and large hashrate rentals combined (found blocks lower percentage compared to the more hash i rented)) Id actually try this myself.... We're using nicehash for quibit, x11 and lyra. The odd time we'll use mrr if we happen to notice a cheap rig but the rigs can be annoying and unreliable. I had someone make a custom bot, similar to their own bot, but is node based and has more logic into it besides the basic price lowering of an order. It monitors multiple orders and adjusts to the max hash rate on the cheapest one, and drops all the others to the min.
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December 26, 2015, 04:26:37 AM |
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@JaredKaragen - your message "I'll leave myr-gr. pool for now" was posted before my AMD rigs started hashing there. I know that ccminer performs wierd at myr-gr pools. For few hours I had 99,5% of myr-gr. hashrate at the pool and there was no ccminer in the list at that time.
Pool's statistics is done good, so monitoring of connected miners, their software and hashrate is almost real-time.
Pool hashrate is 180 Mh -- 3 miners (1 cpuminer + 2 sgminers) -- my hashrate is 140+40 Mh -- my reward share is 75%. Pool hashrate is 40 Mh -- 2 miners (1 cpuminer + 1 sgminer) -- my hashrate is 40 Mh -- my reward share is 75%. Pool hashrate is >180 Mh -- >3 miners -- my hashrate is 140+40 Mh -- my reward share is <75%.
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December 26, 2015, 10:12:43 AM |
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Update: seems like reward share on myr-gr is back to normal and is equal to share in pool's hashrate. Thanks!
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December 26, 2015, 10:25:16 AM |
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nicehash not connect to scrypt and sha256
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JaredKaragen
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December 26, 2015, 11:46:22 AM |
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nicehash not connect to scrypt and sha256
do a "test pool connection" before saving it. I bet difficulty is not set properly for you... using the password field.....
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December 26, 2015, 11:54:19 AM |
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nicehash not connect to scrypt and sha256
do a "test pool connection" before saving it. I bet difficulty is not set properly for you... using the password field..... thats's right, default diff may not be acceptable with nicehash so you need to set one: http://www.zpool.ca/site/diffThanks
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December 26, 2015, 12:57:18 PM |
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so you do try to put the smallest complexity and see ....
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December 26, 2015, 01:02:07 PM |
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so you do try to put the smallest complexity and see ....
I usually do 2x the min...
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December 26, 2015, 01:04:38 PM |
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d=2048 - It runs for 2 minutes , then switched off, Disconnected. Pool difficulty too low for high speed.
sha - ?
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JaredKaragen
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December 26, 2015, 03:01:15 PM |
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d=2048 - It runs for 2 minutes , then switched off, Disconnected. Pool difficulty too low for high speed.
sha - ?
Tested NH's services again yesterday. My settings were as follows: Two rentals, one at 5Th, and another at 100Th. Both SHA256 mining, to port 3333 with this password: d=2048,sha256 the 100Th completed without incident, and the 5Th is still going. Again; nicehash disappoints with a 100Th rental; If I keep a steady 5-10Th, I actually make more btc every time that i've done this test. Strange. 4th time this has happened... no longer a coincidence in my mind.... Probably has to do with luck over a short period vs luck over a long period. I haven't wanted to waste that much coin just doing tests knowing I would take that kind of a loss after this many fails or else I would do the same time frames for 5Th and 100Th...... Gonna just cut my losses and stay with slow and steady.... along with just using my own hardware. Im a blessed one that doesn't pay any power bill
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December 26, 2015, 04:08:12 PM |
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yeah.
I am using the CCMINER spmod for nvidia....
latest version..
using this string: ccminer.exe -r 0 -a myr-gr -i 17.5 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5433 -u 1PHSDYvVp6HpqtuUPocK41DrdeHbbezaeP -p d=0.4,myr-gr=49.5 (cuts out confusion)
My string for SP-MOD: ccminer77 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5433 -u 18EJ9w1MuZXWDNNEuLAyq4SJJUsYx9fqiX -p d=0.001 -a myr-gr --diff 0.003 for GTX750Ti
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December 26, 2015, 04:13:31 PM |
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d=2048 - It runs for 2 minutes , then switched off, Disconnected. Pool difficulty too low for high speed.
sha - ?
Tested NH's services again yesterday. My settings were as follows: Two rentals, one at 5Th, and another at 100Th. Both SHA256 mining, to port 3333 with this password: d=2048,sha256 the 100Th completed without incident, and the 5Th is still going. Again; nicehash disappoints with a 100Th rental; If I keep a steady 5-10Th, I actually make more btc every time that i've done this test. Strange. 4th time this has happened... no longer a coincidence in my mind.... Probably has to do with luck over a short period vs luck over a long period. I haven't wanted to waste that much coin just doing tests knowing I would take that kind of a loss after this many fails or else I would do the same time frames for 5Th and 100Th...... Gonna just cut my losses and stay with slow and steady.... along with just using my own hardware. Im a blessed one that doesn't pay any power bill We definitely find that dumping huge amounts of hash, isn't profitable like it is if you rent low/modest amounts of hash. The reason is because with a large amount of hash, it causes the coins to jump way up in difficulty, lowering your overall luck. Now it's not as much of a problem when there are lots of coins to choose from, but still better to go low and slowly increase.
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elbandi
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December 26, 2015, 04:41:54 PM |
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We definitely find that dumping huge amounts of hash, isn't profitable like it is if you rent low/modest amounts of hash. The reason is because with a large amount of hash, it causes the coins to jump way up in difficulty, lowering your overall luck. Now it's not as much of a problem when there are lots of coins to choose from, but still better to go low and slowly increase.
Yes, thats right. For miners, it's better, if he rent hash with smaller hashs at the same time as large hash, because yimmp spread the miners between the coins. If there is a 5x5T hash, pool sw can mine 5 coins with 5T(/coin). with this, the coins difficulty is not jump high, because just a "small" hashrate are in one coin. For this, the pool owner sould add coins as much he can, because the yiimp sw can choose the good profitable coins for miners. Elbandi ps: you can disable the bitcoin, 30T hashpower is very few to find a block, it's waste of hash if pool switch to btc.
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paputa
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December 26, 2015, 08:03:09 PM |
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Thank you for the info on nicehash and zpool !!
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AngryDwarf
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December 26, 2015, 11:52:54 PM |
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I never got an answer before about the "custom proitability" user setting; does it scale based on hashrate (which would make sense to me).... because im mentally having trouble grasping how that scales to what factors... being the person that I am I would be inclined to use values something like lyra2=11.2,qubit=25.4,neoscrypt=0.53, etc.... based on the hashrate that each algo gives me. is this a proper way of thinking?
TBH, I haven't looked too much into how the factoring/scale adjusts the switching. I'll see if I can find the algorithm it's using. What I have done (can't be sure it is correct but it seems logical to me) is to obtain an overall hash rate for each algo, and then divide that by the scrypt hash rate. For example, my GTX680 (+175MHz GPU OC, +500MHz Mem OC) gives me around 375 kH/s. X11 mining gives me around 3270 kH/s, so I divide the x11 hash rate by the scrypt hash rate and get 3270/375 = 8.7 Overall kilo hash rates are: scrypt 375 X11 3270 X13 2500 Qubit 5630 Quark 4600 Lyra2v2 1430 Groestl 8980 Myr-Gr 15840 (Neoscypt unsupported on my card) So this is my normalisation string x11=8.7,x13=6.7,qubit=15.0,quark=12.3,lyra2v2=3.8,groestl=23.9,myr-gr=42.2,scrypt=1 I'll give it a try and see how it goes (although I've only just started mining on this site so comparison might be difficult)
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December 27, 2015, 12:56:18 AM |
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We definitely find that dumping huge amounts of hash, isn't profitable like it is if you rent low/modest amounts of hash. The reason is because with a large amount of hash, it causes the coins to jump way up in difficulty, lowering your overall luck. Now it's not as much of a problem when there are lots of coins to choose from, but still better to go low and slowly increase.
ps: you can disable the bitcoin, 30T hashpower is very few to find a block, it's waste of hash if pool switch to btc. BTC will never get hash put on to it. I keep it there so it can be seen that it is online and working. The only time a coin would get hash put on to it, is if the block solve estimation is less than 3-4 sometimes 5 hours max.
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AngryDwarf
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December 29, 2015, 03:01:41 PM |
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groestl and myr-gr removed? Is this permanent or temporary?
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AngryDwarf
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December 30, 2015, 07:39:43 PM |
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There seems to be an issue when being payed in alternative currencies. Recently I've mined some NOTE so that I can dump my holdings on the exchange. Since there are issues at cryptsy, I'm looking at using alternative exchanges and some of these have high minimum order sizes. Some of the payments I get are spot on. Some of them are only half of that stated. For example: Time Amount Tx 2h ago 7.04499067 272e2ada5d0c6f5dc17fe8be435432545662...4h ago 3.02454339 57f647ac8f45db952405ce6d00b7f91a46e6... Transaction Hash Value From (amount) To (amount) 2d051b33f38f2eb85d2fc267f6b0aef26da1e991b27d9f40270bf1a85e5efbc4 23.8 Generation DdsBna4PUt44hj91KuotueqHsgQoxu15Jv (23. d5b626ef96f4d63500beabf2e72fd08abc60bdea2cb84e0f8467eea76ead55e7 5232.84945253 DdxAEZaKqqq1cdNodpXE4uL517V1836dor (5232.79135253) Dr2SnU5tMnif55paLVeDy4LuS1iBMQAWHF (0.0581) 4097353172314bd3a1c34c7f9b7f7c697a1b8e7e53602393dc4eba78512c3d39 8326.56 DatUFrvjWJkGYrEpiM738ip8wUhAZUg5Nu (8326.45) DXkPvoew3vN8QCfW6bTJ5nF4nvefayD4CS (0.11) 272e2ada5d0c6f5dc17fe8be43543254566218a0a8fcfe5c10e53d83c52a7207 3.58548913 Dd8uRtEx1SYxfsshHQQU2od4LL9Ph57bRb (0.06299379) DniNbK5Hx7f6W7DTPjrs7M5Zxz5K5Ed8MQ (3.52249534)Transaction Hash Value From (amount) To (amount) 2bd7d45a23105fc95e2889216077ed58e6c3f5a9cf342ec0b4e46d0ac4febb60 23.8 Generation DeoZeAQDtmSXnfr8UhNBcf3hXkSt1U1sNV (23. 57f647ac8f45db952405ce6d00b7f91a46e6a2b9942c6f9a6c672426015d6b0a 4.50648228 DkvHezhHXNgDebWQjd2qE8SEgM4hR8s7ZR (1.48193889) DniNbK5Hx7f6W7DTPjrs7M5Zxz5K5Ed8MQ (3.02454339)Note: Please do not send any recompense to this account - I'm trying to flatten the position and dump it on an exchange and decommission my wallet!
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AngryDwarf
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December 30, 2015, 08:10:07 PM |
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So far it saying total paid is 14.6 NOTE, but my wallet has only received about 10.1 NOTE with all transactions confirmed so far. So either some NOTE is going missing or there is some other reporting error. There was a huge ramp up in hash rate at the time to get the 7 NOTE payment though.
Dnotes (total pending) 0.56481653 1.67918082 2.24399736 NOTE Balance 1.31007279 NOTE Total Unpaid 3.55407015 NOTE Total Paid 14.62576962 NOTE Total Earned 18.17983977 NOTE
Time Amount Tx 30m ago 0.70212661 dd8d1a431d0a8b1b535fd1d658cb1fdd6858...(0.70212661) 2h ago 7.04499067 272e2ada5d0c6f5dc17fe8be435432545662...(3.52249534) 4h ago 3.02454339 57f647ac8f45db952405ce6d00b7f91a46e6...(3.02454339) 6h ago 1.37320311 de0082cdf40bb359bca5d5dc6a107d12e7fc...(1.37320311) 8h ago 0.61355572 af53ed695809d5bed376a7d0a21d4a563cde...(0.30677786) 10h ago 1.21441054 8d961ca12bee0f58d2772f7d4e2853351f2b...(0.60720527) 12h ago 0.65293958 197087e112bebf59c36ebe13385d14fbcad9...(0.65293958) Total: 14.62576962
Actual wallet receipts in brackets. 3 of the 7 transactions have been half payments.
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