bad news for bASIC - not shipping til mid Jan at best

[SgtSpike]

I'm just frustrated with the fact that I could still be mining now....I sold everything for pre-orders

Me too, but on the same token, I wouldn't have been able to preorder without selling... so I'll (hopefully) be one of the first to mine with ASICs because of having an early preorder, but I sacrificed mining on everything but a couple GPU's in the meantime.

[Bogart]

bASIC got spammed

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Unacceptable, please delete your post.  Thanks.

They have been getting spammed for a while now.  They do delete them, but not instantly.

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bASIC got spammed

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Unacceptable, please delete your post.  Thanks.

They have been getting spammed for a while now.  They do delete them, but not instantly.

Got it 

Just thought I'd bring to someone's attention 

[squeept]

Any news?

[miter_myles]

negatory -

seems like the only news lately is the bleak possibility of there being news "soon"

[peasant]

Relax guys, the holidays are right around the corner. Enjoy the time with your families. Don't expect anything until after the first full week of January. Just pray that it's not another delay that's released on the day you expect shipping to start. 

[GenTarkin]

negatory -

seems like the only news lately is the bleak possibility of there being news "soon"

LOL the pattern of news matches that of pirateat40's response to the community when the shit hit the fan ..

[creativex]

Agreed, the lack of updates is disturbing.

[miter_myles]

Agreed, the lack of updates is disturbing.

Not only that - but why would someone running the show think that it is absolutely acceptable to do this.. ??

I won't "relax" until I get what I paid for.. and that's as simple as I can put it..  It is in my (along with others) best interest to keep tabs on what is going on and NOT have to beg for updates or clear detailed information..

[rocks]

Agreed, the lack of updates is disturbing.

It's why I got out, even though I was an early bASIC customer and had a mid-sized order early in the order count.

It's completely understandable for there to be delays, but the thing that scared me were the limited explanations thrown up for the significant delivery date miss, which didn't make any sense. A last minute "Board development" delay 2 weeks before shipping shouldn't have that much of an impact. The ASIC package should still be ready and you only need to redo the PCB board. Most importantly demos or proof of products should be possible. (Fabs work like clockwork and don't miss dates, so the packaged die should already have been completed.)

Many others asked many reasonable questions, and there was complete silence. That's when I bailed.

I wish Tom and others invested in bASIC luck, but I got the sense that Tom doesn't really understand ASIC development and so couldn't answer people's questions and was simply outsourcing the whole project, that is a problem. Outsourcing is fine, but you have to understand the development cycle and how to manage it.

I and many others received our money back fine, that tells me bASIC is not a pirate scam and on the up and up. Will be happy to re-invest, but at this point require real proof of product to do so.

[squeept]

Yep, I think he outsourced to too many different places all at once and can't coordinate it all. Every team is probably just doing their own thing with complete disregard to the rest of the project. I'm betting the next update from them will be pretty easy to decipher in terms of sink or swim, so I'm pretty anxious to see what they have to say.

[MrTeal]

Why just wait? Bet!

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=1038

So far sentiment is that nothing will be coming in the first month of the year.

Personally if what Tom claims is true (they had prototypes from a MPW, the chips are ready) and all they're waiting on is the board, there's no reason that it shouldn't be possible to get it done this year and have PCB fab, and assembly done early January in time to start shipping mid January. Whether that happens is the big question.

[squeept]

So, with the latest news from bASIC, why aren't there 2,000 threads calling them all liars and scammers? They've now pushed the date back again, lied about when Chinese New Year is, posted 6 consecutive news updates that simply say "the next update will have real news!", and most of all, they clearly lied about their chips being ready.

What? Only BFL takes shit for mistakes? Got it.

[SAC]

So, with the latest news from bASIC, why aren't there 2,000 threads calling them all liars and scammers? They've now pushed the date back again, lied about when Chinese New Year is, posted 6 consecutive news updates that simply say "the next update will have real news!", and most of all, they clearly lied about their chips being ready.

What? Only BFL takes shit for mistakes? Got it.

BFL have lied at every opportunity Tom delivered on the FPGAs as he said perhaps that has bought him some good will or the useless drama queens that inhabit this board have more pressing threads to troll.

[creativex]

Tom did not actually announce a second delay, though one could conclude that the groundwork for such an announcement was being lain. If there is another delay he'll rightly take the heat for it. He sucks with calenders that's for certain.

[poon-TANG]

So, with the latest news from bASIC, why aren't there 2,000 threads calling them all liars and scammers? They've now pushed the date back again, lied about when Chinese New Year is, posted 6 consecutive news updates that simply say "the next update will have real news!", and most of all, they clearly lied about their chips being ready.

What? Only BFL takes shit for mistakes? Got it.

BFL have lied at every opportunity Tom delivered on the FPGAs as he said perhaps that has bought him some good will or the useless drama queens that inhabit this board have more pressing threads to troll.

+1

now just waiting for the "excuses" oh I mean reasons how bASIC is different from BFL.

[crazyates]

So, with the latest news from bASIC, why aren't there 2,000 threads calling them all liars and scammers? They've now pushed the date back again, lied about when Chinese New Year is, posted 6 consecutive news updates that simply say "the next update will have real news!", and most of all, they clearly lied about their chips being ready.

What? Only BFL takes shit for mistakes? Got it.

+1

I honestly think that the bASIC will be the last of the major ASICs to ship. This is speculation, but I just don't see it. Avalon has the expertise, BFL has the funding, but bASIC just seems to be doing nothing except announcing a hosting plan. Not all that impressive, IMO.

[BitSyncom]

Personally I'm slightly offended that bASIC used a "fake" chinese new year as an excuse. Those dates are not even close.

[Frizz23]

So, with the latest news from bASIC, why aren't there 2,000 threads calling them all liars and scammers? They've now pushed the date back again, lied about when Chinese New Year is, posted 6 consecutive news updates that simply say "the next update will have real news!", and most of all, they clearly lied about their chips being ready.

What? Only BFL takes shit for mistakes? Got it.

+1

+1

I honestly think that the bASIC will be the last of the major ASICs to ship. This is speculation, but I just don't see it. Avalon has the expertise, BFL has the funding, but bASIC just seems to be doing nothing except announcing a hosting plan. Not all that impressive, IMO.

+1

[Carlton Banks]

Personally I'm slightly offended that bASIC used a "fake" chinese new year as an excuse. Those dates are not even close.

Don't you start too, your company have only really thrown the spitefulness back at others so far. bASIC haven't put themselves out to disparage the competition without being provoked, you should afford them the same courtesy. It's not impossible that they made a mistake on the timing of Chinese New Year, so to try and paint it as an intended offence edges you into Inaba/finger puppet territory.

Remember that BFL and it's shills (largely all one "man") hounded the bASIC project so relentlessly, mercilessly and shamelessly that they have abandoned this forum altogether, and they're starting to try to do the same to your project too. You've handled it well so far, but to indulge in the same hyperbolic mud-slinging is just totally unsporting, and unnecessary.

It will not: 

- speed your product delivery up
- slow bASIC's product delivery down
- win you any customers in the short term, seeing as you sold out quite some time ago and will not be accepting new customers until the 1st batch ships
- achieve anything except worsen your public reputation in the eyes of those that believe in the sanctity of a fair fight


Fucking stop it, the lot of you (that includes all of your multiple personalities Inaba, it will serve you right if you develop a schizophrenic disorder through your weirdo stalking)