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December 09, 2015, 01:47:02 AM
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Satoshi would put himself endanger when exposed and he knows this very well so this name as we all know isn't real. God knows the real Satoshi might have been in a remote island enjoying the sun, sipping coconut juice beside the shore, no worries about privacy and security.  Grin

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December 09, 2015, 01:49:50 AM
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it seems legit! i dont know either but this man has something to do with the creation of bitcoin for sure

What? you dont know but then throwing "for sure "

Makes your whole post worthless pile of shit
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December 09, 2015, 01:52:51 AM
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Satoshi would not make an appearance at a Bitcoin "Scaling" Conference.
Especially where he uses his real name and shows his appearance on video,
when originally, Satoshi went through hoops to hide that information.

Satoshi is dead. This man is not Satoshi.

This whole thing smells like a government operation.

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December 09, 2015, 01:53:24 AM
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. In my opinion, Dr. Wright or a certain group of ppl is somehow in control a large bitcoin fund thats believed to be Satoshi's. This story is to made them look more legit under the eyes of the law.

I hope Bitcoin community is smart enough not to believe "leaked" documents as facts.

Ps. if my theory is true, that means Satoshi's dead and his coins are now in control of these scammers.

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December 09, 2015, 01:55:23 AM
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I am ~3 minutes into reading and it is amazing, there is a chance he is the real Satoshi.

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December 09, 2015, 01:57:11 AM
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It's a no.
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December 09, 2015, 01:59:09 AM
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https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/09/03/new-mystery-about-satoshi/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286883.0
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December 09, 2015, 02:06:48 AM
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That would be huge if they would find him.
But this is hoax :| he is wannabe nakamoto.
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December 09, 2015, 02:10:36 AM
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"That million-coin trove—The Tulip Trust—is the same size as a mysterious bitcoin fortune that’s long been visible on bitcoin’s blockchain and widely attributed to Satoshi Nakamoto..."

there is far less than 1.1mill bitcoin associated just with satoshi..

I don't think anyone knows for certain exactly how many bitcoins Satoshi would have.  It could be less than 1 million, but it also could be more.  Sure Hal Finney did some mining early on, as did others, but a significant amount of the mining to keep the system running was Satoshi.  There have been efforts to analyze the structure of early blocks and make educated guesses about which were mined by Satoshi, which were mined by Hal, and which were mined by others.  Satoshi could have continued mining long after he stopped communicating and if he's alive, he certainly could be mining with ASIC today.

plus satoshi lost quite a few privleys when changing the wallet/privkey storage mechanism.

I don't recall reading about that.  Can you please link to the post where Satoshi says that he lost some of his private keys?

thus the real satoshi definitely wont hold 1.1mill coins

He might.  He also might hold more.  Or less.

and so a PDF saying that wright had 1.1mill bitcoins are stored in a legal 'tulip trust'.. is just wrong

Maybe it's wrong.  Maybe it's right.  Do you have conclusive evidence about whether or not a "Tulip Trust" exists? If it does exist, do you have conclusive evidence about what it has (or doesn't have) control over?  If it does control the private keys to any bitcoins, do you have conclusive evidence of how many?

and thus bursts the speculation bubble and makes me think that Wright is just trying to pretend he is satoshi for some 'five minute fame'

That's certainly possible.  I'm not convinced that Wright is Satoshi, but there's enough there to make me wonder about it.  The whole "Tulip Trust" thing very well could be a hoax, but there's still enough there without that to keep me wondering.

"Tulip Trust"?
....umm, that name is a cause for instant concern, yet very amusing at the same time.



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"A few hours later, we received another, even more perplexing message from the same account. “The nature of this moniker is selected for a purpose. I now have resources. This makes me a we now. I am still within that early phase of learning just what my capabilities happen to be. So, even now with resources I remain vulnerable,” it read. “You seem to know a few things. More than you should.”

When we responded by describing the three blog posts that showed Wright’s clear connection to bitcoin’s creation and asking again for a meeting, he gave a revealing answer. “Although we all desire some level of credit, I have moved past many of these things,” read his response from the same Tessier-Ashpool account. “Too many already know secrets, the world does not need to know."  (from the OP article)


First, he makes no effort to hide his "release" of Bitcoin, and now it is a secret "the world does not need to know"....?
 

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December 09, 2015, 02:13:28 AM
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PGP sign or its not true. Satoshi seemed humble, he doesnt look like
We will see

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December 09, 2015, 02:15:35 AM
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He's dreamy. I think he'd make a good husband.

He's married.
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December 09, 2015, 02:17:38 AM
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I cannot confirm nor deny these claims

Is your son Matthew Neal Wright, formally living in South Korean but now living in ... (yes, I know where he's bloody well at)?
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December 09, 2015, 02:17:46 AM
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His amazon wish list shows hes a joke

Also please read his Linked profile..... OMG LOL
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December 09, 2015, 02:19:38 AM
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There's more here: http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

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December 09, 2015, 02:25:47 AM
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That's quite an interesting read, more detailed than Wired

So apparently Craig sold 1.1 million BTCs back in Sept 2011 for $100,000 and was trying to form a secret Bitcoin trust in the Seychelles
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
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December 09, 2015, 02:35:00 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me how much discourse and supposition can be posted - before even reviewing all the facts.  My suggestion for everyone interested i this subject is to go to that link, and WATCH every minute of that 1 hour and 15 minute video conference.

I think there were three main takeaways I saw coming from him (although there was more).....

1) Craig Steven Wright (Satoshi???) repeatedly stated that people are missing the big picture, and said it looked like he was soon going to be releasing more white papers to advance some things.

2) He talked about the ability to add Turing language capability as a layer in bitcoin functionality (don't know if I got the erminology exactly correct - but the concept of Turing level capability - similar to Ethereum - was promoted, and more info suggested to be forthcoming)

3) He is currently operating the world's 15th largest Supercomputer, and directly referenced it on the Top 500 list and specifically identified it as "COIN / TULIP", with a larger one soon to be unveiled.  He indicated for the past years he has been using that Supercomputer to run bitcoin scalability models.  In a reference to Banks attempting to continue to pursue private Blockchains, he made a direct comment that HE ALONE had enough computing power to break them.  He didn't say it as a threat - just as a realistic attempt to make a point that it was an unrealistic scenario basically doomed to never realize the potential of what they wanted to achieve.

MY COMMENT ON VALIDITY OF CLAIM:  IF Wired got their facts correct that they published, their conclusion that Wright = Satoshi is very highly probable as being correct.  Also, his demeanor, knowledge and command of the topic - in a panel of very big names - was impressive.   I would say that "Satoshi is back" but in reality it looks like he has been pounding away on his Supercomputer for the past 2 years playing out scalability models.  A more correct analysis MIGHT be that "Satoshi has returned to shepherd Bitcoin to it's next level".  He's been working quitely behind the scenes in preparation for this time we find ourselves - the inevitable crossroads.  

My opinion for what it is worth, and I think things just got very interesting and I think a lot of bankers just got very nervous.

Peace,
- david

I watched video twice and agree with your take. His Twitter account and blog have both been deleted.
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December 09, 2015, 02:36:50 AM
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One of my favorite parts of that article:
"Last year, Wright publicly announced his plan to establish the “world’s first Bitcoin bank.”".

World's First Bitcoin Bank? Gee Wizz Satoshi...

What happened to people being their own banks?
Hey Satoshi, can you hold my private keys for me too?

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December 09, 2015, 02:39:36 AM
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December 09, 2015, 02:51:40 AM
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One of my favorite parts of that article:
"Last year, Wright publicly announced his plan to establish the “world’s first Bitcoin bank.”".

World's First Bitcoin Bank? Gee Wizz Satoshi...

What happened to people being their own banks?
Hey Satoshi, can you hold my private keys for me too?

https://www.facebook.com/hotwirepegroup/info/?tab=page_info

http://web.archive.org/web/20131103021215/http://www.hotwirepe.com/
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December 09, 2015, 02:59:12 AM
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Looking for Dr. Wrights whitepapers... http://panopticrypt.com/knowledge_scadawhitepaper.html
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