Has Wired discovered the real Satoshi Nakamoto? (.. this time)

[Bitinvestor]

This is fake and it seems it was a bait to lure press to Wright claim. This Wright has nothing to do with creation of bitcoin. Satoshi Nakamoto will never create a bitcoin bank. LOL guys BITCOIN BANK??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Exactly. Wright wants to be famous but he's not Satoshi Nakamoto.

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[Quantus]

Whats wrong with you people? Its a fucking hoax this scammer wants to build a Bitcoin bank to store private keys, dose that sound like the creator of Bitcoin?

[cryptodevil]

What I've learned from all this is that MRSA is a real bitch. Rest in peace, Dave.

That was my take-home from the article, too. Sounds like a miserable existence for the poor guy.

If it turns out that Craig Wright did create the pseudonym, 'Satoshi Nakamoto' as part of an original plan to intentionally paint an air of mysterious benevolence over the project's origins, its more likely that Dave is the genius behind the tech itself.

If the article is correct in its findings, Craig is more like the egotistical PR genius for the origins of the project.

[iglasses]

Australian Police raid the guys house...lol
Nothing to do with the recent reports...lol
Related to a TAX INVESTIGATION

No f*ing wonder Nakamoto wants to remain anonymous.

[DannyHamilton]

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wants to build a Bitcoin bank to store private keys, does that sound like the creator of Bitcoin?

Good question.  Lets take a look at what Satoshi wrote and see, shall we?

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You create an account on a website and hold your bitcoins on account there and transfer in and out.  Creating an account on a website is a lot easier than installing and learning to use software, and a more familiar way of doing it for most people.  The only disadvantage is that you have to trust the site, but that's fine for pocket change amounts for micropayments and misc expenses.  It's an easy way to get started and if you get larger amounts then you can upgrade to the actual bitcoin software.

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[partysaurus]

Whats wrong with you people? Its a fucking hoax this scammer wants to build a Bitcoin bank to store private keys, dose that sound like the creator of Bitcoin?

that makes alot of sence thanks for clearing it up , ofc the creator of btc would not do something like that seems out of character.

[franky1]

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wants to build a Bitcoin bank to store private keys, does that sound like the creator of Bitcoin?

Good question.  Lets take a look at what Satoshi wrote and see, shall we?

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You create an account on a website and hold your bitcoins on account there and transfer in and out.  Creating an account on a website is a lot easier than installing and learning to use software, and a more familiar way of doing it for most people.  The only disadvantage is that you have to trust the site, but that's fine for pocket change amounts for micropayments and misc expenses.  It's an easy way to get started and if you get larger amounts then you can upgrade to the actual bitcoin software.

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what satoshi was talking about was online wallets. which became blockchain.info/wallet..

what Mr Wright proposes is BANKING where he gets to play around with your funds to his hearts content. eg trendon shavers BTCS&T

[kindcrypto]

The real Satoshi is Batman, obviously.

[megashira1]

Don't you guys see it? Satoshi aka Craig Wright intended to create the bitcoin bank as a temporary measure to be able to on ramp and familiarize the masses into the use of bitcoin.

[fastdice_alchemist]

Theres no way its him, probably just a pull for media attention.

[Kprawn]

Is this a early April Fools joke, or a grand Hoax that would backfire? His technical knowledge seems to be a little ....under par for a Satoshi. I wonder, if Wright could be Satoshi's

partner and part of a bigger circle of friends.  ..... I have always thought of Satoshi being a group of people, not a individual person. I guess the real Satoshi gets a kick out of

this whole drama, and it legitimize his decision to stay anonymous. 

[Spoetnik]

I read the article and I`m quite surprized. I think we got satoshi nakamoto.

Profile:
-Scientist ✓
-IT & crypto background ✓
-Libertarian principles ✓
-Introverted personality ✓
-In bitcoin for a long time ✓
-Is trying to cover up the fact that he is long in bitcoin and doesnt talk much about that ✓
-He is smiling always and is looking pressured in the interview + body language ✓
-Has lots of coins ✓
-Was in e-mail contact with satoshi and the other crew ✓
-Too many secrets that he cant explain ✓
-Tries to keep low profile ✓
-Very experiences in cryptocoins ✓

Yes i must say the evidence points that he is satoshi or part of satoshi, if a group.

-Being investigated for tax fraud (very Bitcoin-thing to do) ✓

problem is  if he used other early adopter coins (i mean is satoshi but did not use statoshi coins per say) and gets pinched for such on tax fraud.....the penalties and such are always more *usually* then the fraud all said and done..thus they tax man will go for ALL assets ..and if they do have him dead to rights on btc as the creator..then a deal will be struck and the tax folks in australia will have 1 million btc to auction...that would suck

my real fear (besides the $$$ loss) is the whole open source crypto will go belly up and then the banks will move in with closed crypto and use blockchain to move finance in the world for practically free and keep the RATES NOW THE SAME ..the billionaire bankers of today would be the trillionaire bankers of tommarow (think bladerunner the movie) we would be so frigging screwed...

again there is only 2 things wrong with btc according to the powers that be/banks etc

1) they did not invent it

2) they did not patent it

so yeah ..even if he is NOT satoshi this is gonna drag out as press FUD for months and months....but hell if he is satoshi and played tax dodges and it is proved they will TAKE IT ALL
on a deal .....1 million btc on an auction would be the death of btc and probably all open source crypto imho...they win ...we the masses lose

And we have proof every government on Earth has an agenda to destroy Bitcoin and any crypto currency ?
May i ask where in the hell did you all pull that out of your ass from ?
All i see from governments is they want some regulation put on it and i agree 100% with them.
Media FUD ?
Bulllllllsbloooody shit
The only people who use that stupid little term is misinformed idiots here at bitcointalk.org
Not one guy here has ever appropriately coined the term FUD correctly.
You all just throw the word around as either an attack tool or as means to lend credibility to some dumb assertion.
Crying FUD is so Bitcointalk LOL
The world is not going to cry FUD.. you losers here will hahahha
The second any user here cries FUD i make a mental note that the person is a moron.

The auction comment is just stupid too.. even if there was that many (that is debatable)
they people selling them would not auction them off all at once.. Further more previous auctions
from Silk Road did no major damage so you have no precedent to base this claim on.

I thoroughly enjoy the collective Hysteria, fanboyism, Cheerleading and utter nonsense spewed by Bitcoiners.
Really the sheer level of stupidity that swirls among the Tech-Stupid astounds me and never ceases to amaze me..
I hang out in Crypto because i just can't believe how fucking dumb all of you are.
Satoshi wants to stay hidden ?
Why because one guy started saying it long ago and now most people say it ?
So now it just becomes true since so many people *assume* something ?
If Satoshi is 1 man and he is seeing this he probably thinks just like me and laughs his ass off at all the stupidity.

This topic is a juggernaut of assumptions and conclusion jumping by self proclaimed experts.
They opinions are far more interesting than Satoshi to me.. hands down.

Hey geniuses.. Satoshi was never proven to drive a Volkswagon car.. so...
He must hate German made automobiles and there for must hate all Germans.
FACT !    .....satoshi hates Germans ✓
...........say it all with me guys you know it's true  
Besides look i put a check mark there.. oohhh la la sooo legit now  

[cryptodevil]

^^^ Hahahahahaaaaa. I genuinely lol'd at that!

Trouble is if he has tax 'issues' and the keys to half a billion dollar's worth of bitcoin, I'm not sure the sauve-intellectual-with-a-hard-on-against-a-tax-offical is much better.

[jbreher]

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I agree that there is much to look at before jumping to a conclusion.

But I want to ask you again about your claim upthread that it is impossible that Satoshi accumulated anywhere near a million BTC. Unless I missed it, you've skipped over the request to explain why you believe this to be so.

[Spoetnik]

even better news if true: Reddit user buybtc claims the raided house belongs to Tradefortress (Inputs.io Scammer) https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w0zkg/bitcoin_founder_craig_wrights_home_raided_by/cxshpbf

weak.. some guy said TF was from the same country.. that is it for proof.

[keepdoing]

Whats wrong with you people? Its a fucking hoax this scammer wants to build a Bitcoin bank to store private keys, dose that sound like the creator of Bitcoin?

The amount of emotional and irrational nonsense being spewed here is amazing.  I have rarely seen another intellectual forum descend into mass hysteria and conjecture as fast as this one has.

No one seems to be actually researching facts before leaping off the cliff of conjecture.

IF YOU READ.... Craig's definition of a perfect bank (unlike current fiat system) is that to LOAN money, you should have to have the money.  Craig's goal isn't so much to build a bank to hold money, as to loan it.  It makes sense that as Satoshi, that is why he kept so many bitcoins, and that in his early mining, he amassed those coins.  He has basically created his own banking collateral.

Unlike Fiat that creates these arbitrary pegs to "partial gold" (... i.e 5% gold in reserve) or lately, just the unrestricted printing of money / SDR's or any other arbitrary "amount" of currency.

So again, IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH AND READ AND LISTEN, then you will see that Craig's definition of a "bank" is perhaps a return to a more pure banking system, with an ACTUAL fixed amount of currency, and that if you don't have say 1,000,000 "X Currency" in your bank, you don't get to loan "X Currency".

The way he did this was brilliant, because he is in now in a position to "set policy" on how a new cryptocurrency banking system must operate in creating/issuing loans.  He is actually in THE position to do so.

Anyway, sorry to interrupt with pesky fact injection.  Please continue the hysteria.

[jbreher]

Problem: Dr Wright didn't provide cryptographic evidence of his claims.
Thought: It's so fucking easy to do if you have the keys and will end all this nonsense speculation at once.

True, if his goal was to be acknowledged as SN. But I've yet to see any evidence where he is making this claim. Have you?

[Spoetnik]

"The ATO hit suspected Bitcoin creator Craig Steven Wright's company with a $1.7M penalty"

http://www.smh.com.au/business/bitcoin-founder-could-definitely-be-australian-20151209-glj15n.html?skin=text-only

Zhenya Tsvetnenko, founder of bitcoin remittancy company Digital BTC, has discussed business with Mr Wright previously and was struck by his understanding of Bitcoin and his long history with the protocol.

McGrath Nicol has confirmed the veracity of the liquidation report to the AFR, which states that the company, called Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence, was backed by $30 million in capital that was " injected via Bitcoins."

Leroy Fodor, CEO of StakeMiners Ponzi, claims that it was Craig Wright who introduced him to Bitcoin back in 2009 in South Carolina. Leroy went on and said, "Mr. Wright knew his shit, that's for sure. HAHAHA"

Meanwhile, the cryo chamber that Hall Finney is in was somehow unplugged three days ago.

It's now complete..

- Gleb Gamow has to do all the fact checking ✓
- There is Canadians at the center of it all. ✓
- There is ties to Cryptsy ✓
- Leroy Fodor is involved ✓
- TradeFortress lives in AUS ✓
- Satoshi wants to be left alone ✓
- A huge pile of puppet accounts keep posting this story is true ✓
- The News report about the raid mentioned the guy fled in hiding ✓

So yeah i'd saw we got him.. a carefully concocted story designed to tease you all and pump up Bitcoin
and leave us all exactly where we started.. a missing man with claims that are not proven that could have been faked forged.
Maybe the guy is on the run for tax evasion and avoiding jail time ?
OR ?
It's because "The Man" is secretly trying to keep Bitcoin down and the illumaniti wants to hunt Satoshi !!111

Do you all believe everything some loud mouth prick says or what ?
I have a friend who i met a few months back and he kept saying how he was opening a restaurant soon.
It did open and 2 months later it went our of business and during that time i learned..
he was a line cook in charge of hiring staff paid an hourly wage..
But wow did he looooooooooooooooove to strut around
telling everyone everywhere about -HIS- restaurant.
Until it closed and he pointed the finger of failure at the owner LOL

This Wright guy is just a blow hard douche who wants some attention prob because he has a pump on BTC going.
And he know the BTC crowd is dumb and will eat up anything.

Why would a Trustee who's job it is to make sure the funds held in the trust is secure,
not move the coins and make them secure ?
Who ever handed the private keys to the trustee could have copied them.
So the Trustee would have no faith he controls those coins.. unless he moved them to his own wallet !
No legit trustee is going to have a large step available to ensure the funds are secure available and NOT take it !
That reason alone to me screams bullshit !
You all may think well maybe they had a good reason to not alarm the public by moving the coins ?
oh yeah ? what ?
And does that reason over ride the security of that much BTC supposedly held in a Trust ?
Just grasp this guys.. your job by law is to secure a quarter billion dollars in coins
are YOU going to leave private keys with various people around the globe ?
If the Trustee did that he would be grossly negligent in his duties.

[jbreher]

Dr wright has a miner in iceland..

Source for this claim? Not all supercomputers are miners. Indeed, the vast majority are not.

And even if the Iceland installation is a mining effort, there is a reasonable alternate conjecture - the private keys were fully entrusted to the other dude before he died, leaving Wright with no means of accessing the BTC1.1M. This might lead our Dr Wright to be desirous of a BTC stash. Note I am not making this claim, just that there could be alternate reasons for seeking more BTC.

[Syke]

Obviously one random early mined block could belong to anybody who just knew about Bitcoin since start, but does not prove it is Satoshi. Im amazed how much work Craig Wright put into the story and interiew but he does not deliver the only possible way how to prove it...

Sergio has done an excellent analysis of early mining. There is a distinct pattern to the early blocks that are virtually assured to be Satoshi's.

https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/