Honestly, which is better? Monero or Dash?

[cryptodromeda]

Dash has master nodes, if all the master nodes are taken out, will it survive?

Or that the masternodes are simply handed over to another power.

It's funny - I remember back around 2005 when Yahoo! sold all of its archived email servers to the DoD. I remember thinking "Damn! How can they do that!? Surely there must be laws against this kind of thing??"

It seems sadly not, and the email archives were indeed sold. Turns out Yahoo! is a private company and can do what it wants. Money talks and governments buy.

On a separate note, I think Evan Duffield should take a polygraph. If the instamine is true, that means he is now a millionaire (1.6m USD approx) as a result of a deception.

Fuck that shit.

The instamine isn't  in dispute- Evan and everyone else admits it happened. If it was intentional or not  and what happened to all the coins IS in dispute.

Good point. That's kind of what I meant but I vocalised it wrong.

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[iCEBREAKER]

Dash has master nodes, if all the master nodes are taken out, will it survive?

Or that the masternodes are simply handed over to another power.

It's funny - I remember back around 2005 when Yahoo! sold all of its archived email servers to the DoD. I remember thinking "Damn! How can they do that!? Surely there must be laws against this kind of thing??"

It seems sadly not, and the email archives were indeed sold. Turns out Yahoo! is a private company and can do what it wants. Money talks and governments buy.

On a separate note, I think Evan Duffield should take a polygraph. If the instamine is true, that means he is now a millionaire (1.6m USD approx) as a result of a deception.

Fuck that shit.

The instamine isn't  in dispute- Evan and everyone else admits it happened. If it was intentional or not  and what happened to all the coins IS in dispute.

Good point. That's kind of what I meant but I vocalised it wrong.

"The instamined coins were redistributed, the blockchain shows they have moved!"
"Dash ensures the privacy of transactions by preventing addresses from being associated with specific individuals."

/DashHole Duffsplanation   

[12dailycoin]

monero is the best

[Spoetnik]

What would it have looked like with option 3: Who cares ?

[RaginglikeaBoss]

I mean I like the work on Monero but it is impossible to gain a larger audience in its current state.  And DASH, eh.

[smoothie]

I mean I like the work on Monero but it is impossible to gain a larger audience in its current state.  And DASH, eh.

I am sure many said the same thing about bitcoin many years ago.

So technically it isn't impossible.

[RaginglikeaBoss]

I mean I like the work on Monero but it is impossible to gain a larger audience in its current state.  And DASH, eh.

I am sure many said the same thing about bitcoin many years ago.

So technically it isn't impossible.

Precise language is your forte.  I should've said it's unlikely.  I love the tech, but no one else I've exposed it to has thought the trouble of learning how to use it was worth their time.

[rustynailer]

There is no difference, they are the same, questionable devs and tech. 

[Spoetnik]

I mean I like the work on Monero but it is impossible to gain a larger audience in its current state.  And DASH, eh.

They need to drop the anon bullshit and stop with the deceptive marketing crap.

Creating a fake user bases is not cool.
and their shill antics is exhausting after 2 fucking years of it.

I told them if they deleted that 600+ page topic i would never say another word.
and not make another one just like it to bump 24/7.

They are not "Speculating" about anything..
It's used as MSN messenger / chat for Monero Shill's
a bump fest so the keyword Monero is at the top of the forum 24/7.

People can bash Dash all they want but at least they know how to moderate their Shill'ing.
If they want to advertise in moderation ..i have no complaints at all !

Sick of hearing about Monero 24/7 from 4 guys.. using 44 accounts.
Stay on Polo chat iratating Investard's !

and Monero ?
For fuck sake's that name is gay  

PS:
@RaginglikeaBoss
Nice to see you in the Altcorn section.. have fun LOL
edit:
You made a good point what you said too !

[LiberOptions]

I think XMR is much better to mine ATM. thus it can be more profitable. But it seems that Dash already has an bigger adoption curve.

[TrueCryptonaire]

Based on marketcap and as an investment Darkcoin is better.
Other stuff, I am not so sure.

[RaginglikeaBoss]

Without the funny business that Dash had when it started i would vote for that because of the development that coin has and community behind it. But there was funny business and i don't like that. My vote is for Monero.

Not intended to be a criticism on any specific coin, but I think this "community" attribute (as measured here on this forum) is entirely useless unless you are just referring to the value as pump & dump speculation on this forum.

These communities of speculators here on this forum are not going to make any difference as to whether a coin gets widely adopted by currency users. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Why? Because speculators don't do anything nor have any impacts which have anything to do with user adoption of a currency.

Now developers could help. But I don't think developers are what most people mean by "community".

I tend to agree with you, but on this point I do not.  Speculators are what initially take what the developers created and see it as valuable.  Bitcoin being a prime example would've been meaningless if it had never broken that $10 mark.

[dadj]

Mixing in Monero is instantaneous.

Sure, there's a learning curve that goes with using the command line/terminal - but it's time well spent it if it saves you from having to wait hours every time you need to mix. And then you know how to use a command line/terminal!

[AlexGR]

Mixing in Monero is instantaneous.

Sure, there's a learning curve that goes with using the command line/terminal - but it's time well spent it if it saves you from having to wait hours every time you need to mix. And then you know how to use a command line/terminal!

Dash separated transaction mixing back in the summer of '14.

Initially it required mixing while sending, where you'd wait for others to mix and send.

Post-summer '14, it works with premixing the coins (when you don't want to transact) so that when you want to transact later => it's instant / you are sending pre-mixed funds. It's a nice workaround.

[smoothie]

Mixing in Monero is instantaneous.

Sure, there's a learning curve that goes with using the command line/terminal - but it's time well spent it if it saves you from having to wait hours every time you need to mix. And then you know how to use a command line/terminal!

Dash separated transaction mixing back in the summer of '14.

Initially it required mixing while sending, where you'd wait for others to mix and send.

Post-summer '14, it works with premixing the coins (when you don't want to transact) so that when you want to transact later => it's instant / you are sending pre-mixed funds. It's a nice workaround.

LOL the problem with your argument is that you assume everyone is going to premix what they want to send ahead of time.

We live in the year 2016 and time is money.

72 hours to mix 1000 dash through DARKSEND isn't very impressive when there are alternatives that take a second or a few seconds.

[Wobberdk]

Mixing in Monero is instantaneous.

Sure, there's a learning curve that goes with using the command line/terminal - but it's time well spent it if it saves you from having to wait hours every time you need to mix. And then you know how to use a command line/terminal!

Dash separated transaction mixing back in the summer of '14.

Initially it required mixing while sending, where you'd wait for others to mix and send.

Post-summer '14, it works with premixing the coins (when you don't want to transact) so that when you want to transact later => it's instant / you are sending pre-mixed funds. It's a nice workaround.


LOL the problem with your argument is that you assume everyone is going to premix what they want to send ahead of time.

We live in the year 2016 and time is money.

72 hours to mix 1000 dash through DARKSEND isn't very impressive when there are alternatives that take a second or a few seconds.

So if Dash only has this hype for anonymity, and Monero is best for that, we have a winner, don't we?

[smooth]

Mixing in Monero is instantaneous.

Sure, there's a learning curve that goes with using the command line/terminal - but it's time well spent it if it saves you from having to wait hours every time you need to mix. And then you know how to use a command line/terminal!

Dash separated transaction mixing back in the summer of '14.

Initially it required mixing while sending, where you'd wait for others to mix and send.

Post-summer '14, it works with premixing the coins (when you don't want to transact) so that when you want to transact later => it's instant / you are sending pre-mixed funds. It's a nice workaround.

That's a neat trick, shifting the mixing time from the sender to the recipient. When you receive coins, you now have to mix them which means you haven't really received them for X amount of time.

The other thing that is going on that makes Darksend even remotely usable is "liquidity providers" which is paying people to Sybil attack the system. That's even worse than trusting masternodes.

[AlexGR]

LOL the problem with your argument is that you assume everyone is going to premix what they want to send ahead of time.

You can't mix while sending, so yes, you have to premix. The first time you have money on your wallet, you premix them and you can transact with mixed money later.

If someone is so busy that they can't do it, ok.

72 hours to mix 1000 dash through DARKSEND isn't very impressive when there are alternatives that take a second or a few seconds.

It could take minutes or hours, depending the availability of others to (pre)mix, how many laundering cycles are used, etc. It's not a given timeframe. More use will get the times much quicker due to more people mixing. The anonymous coin market share and use is still pretty low at this time.

[ArticMine]

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LOL the problem with your argument is that you assume everyone is going to premix what they want to send ahead of time.

We live in the year 2016 and time is money.

72 hours to mix 1000 dash through DARKSEND isn't very impressive when there are alternatives that take a second or a few seconds.

Mixing Dash is actually very simple and it does not take 72 hours.

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

[Spoetnik]

idiots you think the public wants to support Silk Road anon coins ?

How bout them FBI's ?

How about XMR morons who know fuck all about security making Monero merch claiming "untraceable"

I am tired of trying to explain security to cocky little shits like smooth/ie etc
these douche bags came here and downloaded Github.zip then fucked around with it and now think they are leet pro's
I have explained at great length endlessly WHY they can NOT claim to be untraceable.
I won all arguments i ever had in crypto about it.
These guys are Morons or fraudulent + liars and spammers.

I have decades of Computer security under my belt and a large resume that spans the globe
a reputation that is world famous and resume a mile long.
I have told these fucking rejects i live and breath "reversing"
It is my hobby and my passion and i am good at it !
I have prob had over a million people on earth with my "cracked" code running on their boxes.
And 1 thing never changes..

Crackers trying to explain cracking to little snotty idiots is ALWAYS a pain in the ass.
They SIMPLY don't have a clue what they are a talking about.
Where as guys like me do.. because we invested 1,000's of hours researching and doing it hands on.

Retardo is dead and it's backed by scammy deceitful idiots.

2016 is going to be a looooong year for these fucking brain dead douche's ROFL