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July 20, 2024, 06:49:33 PM
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Let's hope that n00b bots won't increase the fee when they detect their own tx in the mempool during the battle.


fierce battle in the mempool in the wallet    
197kFKvMHoRJPXktc8xJwMjeTuE9xijBQ with RBF disabled

It was already supposed to be 66, it's been proven that even with RBF deactivated and it's possible to change, there were more than 4 RBF from what I saw
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July 20, 2024, 06:55:31 PM
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fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf
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July 20, 2024, 06:56:43 PM
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Barely caught it myself. I guess this confirms that anything under 90 or 100 is a waste of time.
Thank you for the experiment, brazilian man.
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July 20, 2024, 06:58:18 PM
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fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf


In this case they did not use a wallet, a direct process was carried out in the transaction, AlbertoBSD won the battle, and could give us more details of what was done.     Grin
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July 20, 2024, 06:58:57 PM
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fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf
Weird. All I got was "Error: txn-mempool-conflict" when trying to push the new TX (key was cracked in seconds).

So I guess it depends on how to push a raw TX bypassing this error. I'm sure a P2P node can bypass this problem. So not sure what exactly was proven here, except some mempool rules depending on who you broadcast the TX to.
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July 20, 2024, 07:00:12 PM
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Congrats if Alberto Won. Clearly he deserved it, along with Nomachine Wanderingidkphotopsia too
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July 20, 2024, 07:03:03 PM
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Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?
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July 20, 2024, 07:05:36 PM
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fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf
Weird. All I got was "Error: txn-mempool-conflict" when trying to push the new TX (key was cracked in seconds).

So I guess it depends on how to push a raw TX bypassing this error. I'm sure a P2P node can bypass this problem. So not sure what exactly was proven here, except some mempool rules depending on who you broadcast the TX to.



Is it not clear what was proven? hears at least 4 RBF in the transaction, and the transaction was sent with the RBF deactivated, finally, to the guy who said he found wallet 66 and is scared, it's proven that he will lose the BTCs if he tries to transfer, and to the rest of the people who are looking for it, it is worth reflecting on whether it is worth wasting energy looking for a key when they could lose the funds, perhaps the only way to make the transfer securely is through a miner, but even then it would be risky, you have to trust too much in the miner, hahaha
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July 20, 2024, 07:10:48 PM
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fucking hell, i couldn't replace the transaction by any higher fee i got the error saying insufficient fees. wtf
Weird. All I got was "Error: txn-mempool-conflict" when trying to push the new TX (key was cracked in seconds).

So I guess it depends on how to push a raw TX bypassing this error. I'm sure a P2P node can bypass this problem. So not sure what exactly was proven here, except some mempool rules depending on who you broadcast the TX to.



Is it not clear what was proven? hears at least 4 RBF in the transaction, and the transaction was sent with the RBF deactivated, finally, to the guy who said he found wallet 66 and is scared, it's proven that he will lose the BTCs if he tries to transfer, and to the rest of the people who are looking for it, it is worth reflecting on whether it is worth wasting energy looking for a key when they could lose the funds, perhaps the only way to make the transfer securely is through a miner, but even then it would be risky, you have to trust too much in the miner, hahaha
I have no idea what actually went down, I didn't understand anything from the live stream. All I know was I tried pushing around 20 or so transactions with higher fees (no RBF, classic TX) and none went through due to "mempool rules" errors. I searched for different broadcasters to push the raw TX (even chinese lol). I am 100% sure there had to exist a way to push a completely valid TX with a higher fee.

Also did the mempool.space API worked? Maybe I had an error in my script but it didn't seem to return any data for the outgoing transaction which was supposed to be used as an input, during all of the time. Someone can shed light if their API worked or not?
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July 20, 2024, 07:11:41 PM
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Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?

Take a look at the previous posts and you will understand the context.
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July 20, 2024, 07:13:42 PM
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Barely caught it myself. I guess this confirms that anything under 90 or 100 is a waste of time.
Thank you for the experiment, brazilian man.

Thank you to everyone that participated 🙏
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July 20, 2024, 07:14:04 PM
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Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?

Take a look at the previous posts and you will understand the context.
Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.
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July 20, 2024, 07:20:32 PM
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Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?
Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?


197kFKvMHoRJPXktc8xJwMjeTuE9xijBQ  ==>  18UGZENCDBHF8ciPUuHFDMDNy1vm8aUmYt  

someone use high Fee to replace orig Txid and got 0.00467224  BTC   ( bc1qcrej0q6xqfyr9ecayk3y6khykuugt7za6umuk4 )

https://explorer.btc.com/btc/transaction/354dbcb6fd3532a051e1e363c9122d862949c3d075280d4144f719d6ba99e14a

puzzle 66 is unsafe   Cry Cry Cry

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July 20, 2024, 07:21:05 PM
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Can anyone give a rundown on what happened?

Like the original broadcasted transaction, the competing transactions, and which one won?

Take a look at the previous posts and you will understand the context.
Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

Take a look at the live stream, there you can see the addresses that did RBF and were then overlapped, it happened about 3-4 times.

Maybe your address was there, just look at the time when the mempool website was open and the addresses changed
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July 20, 2024, 07:23:51 PM
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Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxjkDEE43s

18UGZENCDBHF8ciPUuHFDMDNy1vm8aUmYt          0  BTC

Creator’s BTC snatched away within 5 minutes
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July 20, 2024, 07:27:55 PM
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Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

Well I don't log other TX but it was streaming by the Author of that mini challege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxjkDEE43s

you can see in the last minutes that there were several TX replacements, sadly mempool.space erase all those RBF TX once that the block is mined.

I have no idea what actually went down, I didn't understand anything from the live stream. All I know was I tried pushing around 20 or so transactions with higher fees (no RBF, classic TX) and none went through due to "mempool rules" errors. I searched for different broadcasters to push the raw TX (even chinese lol). I am 100% sure there had to exist a way to push a completely valid TX with a higher fee.

Also did the mempool.space API worked? Maybe I had an error in my script but it didn't seem to return any data for the outgoing transaction which was supposed to be used as an input, during all of the time. Someone can shed light if their API worked or not?

I also get that error many times, you need to keep increasing the Fee, this need to be done automatically, manually is almost impossible to send a TX.

BTW just to confirm it
Code:
bc1qcrej0q6xqfyr9ecayk3y6khykuugt7za6umuk4

I win the RBF challenge

IC/3VTpjBb9/bqqE6RJKJUCzpf9/1HoDY43yU6sXEK49O4n9xRZ4V0fkUuR6R05IHXz7AxkOuTZIU16qB9z/apE=
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July 20, 2024, 07:51:17 PM
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Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

Well I don't log other TX but it was streaming by the Author of that mini challege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxjkDEE43s

you can see in the last minutes that there were several TX replacements, sadly mempool.space erase all those RBF TX once that the block is mined.

I have no idea what actually went down, I didn't understand anything from the live stream. All I know was I tried pushing around 20 or so transactions with higher fees (no RBF, classic TX) and none went through due to "mempool rules" errors. I searched for different broadcasters to push the raw TX (even chinese lol). I am 100% sure there had to exist a way to push a completely valid TX with a higher fee.

Also did the mempool.space API worked? Maybe I had an error in my script but it didn't seem to return any data for the outgoing transaction which was supposed to be used as an input, during all of the time. Someone can shed light if their API worked or not?

I also get that error many times, you need to keep increasing the Fee, this need to be done automatically, manually is almost impossible to send a TX.

BTW just to confirm it
Code:
bc1qcrej0q6xqfyr9ecayk3y6khykuugt7za6umuk4

I win the RBF challenge

IC/3VTpjBb9/bqqE6RJKJUCzpf9/1HoDY43yU6sXEK49O4n9xRZ4V0fkUuR6R05IHXz7AxkOuTZIU16qB9z/apE=


As expected Congrats @albert0bsd

My noob bot struggling to see at least balance <= 0 and stuck here.. Cry



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July 20, 2024, 07:55:20 PM
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So, although RBF was turned off in the transaction here, did the miner ignore it and did someone else increase the fee and provide a transaction?
Did I get right ?

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July 20, 2024, 08:11:54 PM
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My noob bot struggling to see at least balance <= 0 and stuck here.. Cry


the same fucking problem i had that it says that the funds are 0 thats why i wasn't be able to broadcast a fooking new transaction.

but the real question is and moral of the story: Is puzzle 66 safe? From what i've seen yes. Because the attacker should be aware that he should broadcast a new transaction with higher fee multiple times for a chance for the actual transaction to be replaced.

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July 20, 2024, 08:13:23 PM
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Yeah, Bud, I know the concept of this whole test. I wanted to know if anyone took snapshots or notes, of how many different people / competing transactions were happening, before whichever one, finally got through. The play by play, wilspen.

Well I don't log other TX but it was streaming by the Author of that mini challege: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjxjkDEE43s

you can see in the last minutes that there were several TX replacements, sadly mempool.space erase all those RBF TX once that the block is mined.

I have no idea what actually went down, I didn't understand anything from the live stream. All I know was I tried pushing around 20 or so transactions with higher fees (no RBF, classic TX) and none went through due to "mempool rules" errors. I searched for different broadcasters to push the raw TX (even chinese lol). I am 100% sure there had to exist a way to push a completely valid TX with a higher fee.

Also did the mempool.space API worked? Maybe I had an error in my script but it didn't seem to return any data for the outgoing transaction which was supposed to be used as an input, during all of the time. Someone can shed light if their API worked or not?

I also get that error many times, you need to keep increasing the Fee, this need to be done automatically, manually is almost impossible to send a TX.

BTW just to confirm it
Code:
bc1qcrej0q6xqfyr9ecayk3y6khykuugt7za6umuk4

I win the RBF challenge

IC/3VTpjBb9/bqqE6RJKJUCzpf9/1HoDY43yU6sXEK49O4n9xRZ4V0fkUuR6R05IHXz7AxkOuTZIU16qB9z/apE=


Thank you Alberto!!!! I will mention in my next videos, my subscribers will go crazy
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