lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
 Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
 |
April 17, 2013, 08:18:07 PM |
|
Hehe. I'd better use sierrachartfeed crunch for a while =) https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes.
We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. So we are not very impressed with the MTGox data feed. This is just a comment.
They also do not provide an efficient data feed. However, this is not of much significance for us.
Aside from all this, we are going to do the very best we can to provide a reliable Bitcoin data feed. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
The trust scores you see are subjective; they will change depending on who you have in your trust list. |
|
|
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
myself
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:19:23 PM |
|
Hehe. I'd better use sierrachartfeed crunch for a while =) https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes.
We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. So we are not very impressed with the MTGox data feed. This is just a comment.
They also do not provide an efficient data feed. However, this is not of much significance for us.
Aside from all this, we are going to do the very best we can to provide a reliable Bitcoin data feed. yes but u can trade on BTC-e man  |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:30:01 PM |
|
I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
What do we have here - is just madness. I say if 50% of funds will be moved to bitstamp or btce - we will see mtgox-2. None of existing exchanges have technically good internal implementation.
|
|
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:33:59 PM |
|
You have very bad time distance difference on same wave level. For example, your I has time period of 2 years and II suddenly few days. This is not right. |
|
|
|
|
myself
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
chaos is fun...…damental :)
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:35:15 PM |
|
I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
any who pay all this investment and all this ppl ? |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
|
|
|
|
Viceroy
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:35:47 PM |
|
I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
Do you know of any software package or project that could be built upon or used "out of the box" toward building a better version of mtgox? Short of finding a pile of fiat to hire said engineers starting with a known working package would make sense. Surely there is a good implementation of a private stock trading system out there... |
|
|
|
|
notme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:36:20 PM |
|
I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
What do we have here - is just madness. I say if 50% of funds will be moved to bitstamp or btce - we will see mtgox-2. None of existing exchanges have technically good internal implementation.
When somebody with the legal knowledge makes a step by step guide to getting registered in various countries. Only then will people like me with the technical knowledge and interest actually build the thing. Right now, I'm dead in the water unless I hire a lawyer to work that shit out. I don't want to deal with it because even if I sunk a week into it, I still wouldn't be sure I was doing everything right. And in my country (USA) if you handle a lot of money without the proper licensing you will have all your money seized. I imagine other countries are similar, although apparently Japan doesn't require any more than a basic business license for MtGox. Not worth the risk at this point IMO unless someone can tell me exactly what it would take to be in compliance. |
|
|
|
notme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:37:50 PM |
|
I want to know when market will see a real good exchange with technically educated engineers. Without lag, without that god damn websocket, with "FAST" or similar trading protocol, with reliable feeds connected to modern trading software...
Do you know of any software package or project that could be built upon or used "out of the box" toward building a better version of mtgox? Short of finding a pile of fiat to hire said engineers starting with a known working package would make sense. Surely there is a good implementation of a private stock trading system out there... Bitcoin central is open source: https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-centralI doubt the current order matching implementation could even keep up with MtGox though. That said, most of the rest of what you need for a bitcoin exchange is there. |
|
|
|
|
Viceroy
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:38:30 PM |
|
Not worth the risk at this point IMO unless someone can tell me exactly what it would take to be in compliance.
Happy to take on the risk, what would you want to develop the system? |
|
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:38:43 PM |
|
Yes, this is right. Exchange should have good both technical and financial/legal internals.
|
|
|
|
|
And1
Member
Offline
Activity: 62
Merit: 10
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:41:06 PM |
|
You have very bad time distance difference on same wave level. For example, your I has time period of 2 years and II suddenly few days. This is not right. It should be visible on daily chart and it is. There are no other time restirctions? |
|
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:41:21 PM |
|
Bitcoin central is open source: https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-centralI doubt the current order matching implementation could even keep up with MtGox though. That said, most of the rest of what you need for a bitcoin exchange is there. Don't make me laugh. They were hacked because their all internal structure was in open source! Internal structure (and especially code!) public disclosing is absolutely unacceptable in financial services. btce were also hacked when they trade out their software to private buyer. |
|
|
|
|
notme
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
|
|
April 17, 2013, 08:51:26 PM |
|
Not worth the risk at this point IMO unless someone can tell me exactly what it would take to be in compliance.
Happy to take on the risk, what would you want to develop the system? I'm not sure, I would have to do some simple prototyping and testing, and then we could discuss target performance (X orders per second, with lag under Y milliseconds, etc). We would also need to discuss what exactly you want built. I'm booked for the next 3 weeks at least, but maybe after that I could look into it. If you can put together a list of features and just label them required, desired, and optional I will put together a few quotes (all required only plus extra cost for each of the desired and optional features). Again, it will be May 13th at the earliest before I could start looking at it. PM me. Bitcoin central is open source: https://github.com/davout/bitcoin-centralI doubt the current order matching implementation could even keep up with MtGox though. That said, most of the rest of what you need for a bitcoin exchange is there. Don't make me laugh. They were hacked because their all internal structure was in open source! Internal structure (and especially code!) public disclosing is absolutely unacceptable in financial services. btce were also hacked when they trade out their software to private buyer. Security through obscurity is not security. Nearly every server on the internet runs an open source OS and everything below the specific application is open source as well. I'm not defending the bitcoin-central codebase though... it would need some work to be put to use on any scale. I suppose I should have put that caveat in my previous post, so thanks for forcing the issue. |
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 09:05:40 PM |
|
Security through obscurity is not security. Nearly every server on the internet runs an open source OS and everything below the specific application is open source as well.
I think i also replied to this stupid assertion elsewhere. NOT IN CASE OF FINANCIAL SERVICE. Did you saw any bank who gives all his internal security structure, security instructions, security camera's locations, etc to any desirous person? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
BrightAnarchist
Donator
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 853
Merit: 1000
|
|
April 17, 2013, 10:00:31 PM
Last edit: April 17, 2013, 11:23:22 PM by BrightAnarchist |
|
The spx had some nice trendline breakage today. "I am very excite"
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
samson
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2097
Merit: 1070
|
|
April 17, 2013, 11:38:25 PM |
|
Very weak move up. Dead crosses/hooks everywhere. Volume divergences.
Down we go then ? |
|
|
|
|
lucif (OP)
Sr. Member
Offline
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
Clown prophet
|
|
April 17, 2013, 11:40:49 PM |
|
I just say "rally" is very weak, still on bearish deviation territory and this is very weak even for bounce.
|
|
|
|
|
|
