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Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a life time... Lucif, i love your examples  Can you recommend something to study TA? 1 go to http://rutracker.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=764 + http://rutracker.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=12592 look for trading or forex 3 ? ? ? ? 4 profit |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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April 05, 2013, 05:55:19 AM |
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I'll have to learn rus first. To long |
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April 05, 2013, 05:56:37 AM |
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Give a man a fish and you will feed him for a life time... Lucif, i love your examples Can you recommend something to study TA? Yeah, weighted bands give nice hint on entry point. But they are silent about exit point. |
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April 05, 2013, 06:01:17 AM |
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Currently I use a nice mix of indicators and EW rules to determine exit point on uptrend. They sometime fail to determine correct higher high.
Still work on this.
Downtrend exit points I know well =)
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I'll have to learn rus first. To long 1 google chrome 2 sutff in eng have the [eng]tag |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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April 05, 2013, 06:14:41 AM |
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Example of downtrend prediction  what kind of bands are these? |
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April 05, 2013, 06:15:48 AM |
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Market is a war, bloody fight between thousands armies. You must have exact plan before open position:
1. I will buy when ...
2. I will sell when ...
3. I will stop when ...
This plan must be ideal. You must be ideal in this plan. You must not step away from this plan. Otherwise you just cannon meat on battlefield.
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April 05, 2013, 06:17:39 AM |
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what kind of bands are these?
Standard deviations from weighted moving average. Length is adjusted according to trend strength. |
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April 05, 2013, 06:25:41 AM |
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Actually I stepped away from this plan last time, sold not at planned conditions. Of course I am at profit, but I lost too much other chances, I lost exit point, I have no entry point anymore and I become very nervous, coz I am out of coordinates, flying in vacuum.
This is not right to step away from plan.
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April 05, 2013, 06:32:14 AM |
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And the ultimate rule when you are out of coordinates and you have high emotional background: DONT DO ANYTHING until emotional background will calm down. Rest, sleep, walk at street. Then develop a new plan.
This is ultimate Plan B for any plan.
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April 05, 2013, 06:35:29 AM |
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Actually I stepped away from this plan last time, sold not at planned conditions. Of course I am at profit, but I lost too much other chances, I lost exit point, I have no entry point anymore and I become very nervous, coz I am out of coordinates, flying in vacuum.
This is not right to step away from plan.
Good thread, thx and keep up with it! Do you have any BTCs invested now? (what % of your portfolio if i can ask) |
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April 05, 2013, 06:37:54 AM |
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And the ultimate rule when you are out of coordinates and you have high emotional background: DONT DO ANYTHING until emotional background will calm down. Rest, sleep, walk at street. Then develop a new plan.
This is ultimate Plan B for any plan.
Brilliant advice. I've gotten burned many many times by "panic" buy or sell. I simply don't do shit anymore. |
It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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April 05, 2013, 06:40:46 AM |
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50/50, developing next plan.
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April 05, 2013, 07:40:43 AM |
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And the ultimate rule when you are out of coordinates and you have high emotional background: DONT DO ANYTHING until emotional background will calm down. Rest, sleep, walk at street. Then develop a new plan.
This is ultimate Plan B for any plan.
Brilliant advice. I've gotten burned many many times by "panic" buy or sell. I simply don't do shit anymore. It's a 1 million dollar advice I got from one professional forex trader. Books, strategies, indicators, EW rules - all is shit comparing to trading psyhology. If you want to learn trading, the first thing to learn is trading psyhology. All other is the secondary. |
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April 05, 2013, 08:18:16 AM |
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First I learnt MACDs and etc, but i realised all this are poor indicators. I tried one speculation move selling it on the top when all indicators was weak, but i lost 5% anyway.
Thx to Lucif posts i realised i must learn drawing proper channels, learn to use moving avereges and deviations and most of all - learn to try predict zigzags.
BTC is different from other stocks, because supply is constantly scarce, thus long term keeping > speculation unless someone is really good in TA.
Thank You Lucif for sharing your knowledge!
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April 05, 2013, 02:29:29 PM |
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I don't like stocks bearish kickstart today and rising dollar from bullish PoV.
I don't know why, but looks like some WS guys repeat stocks sentiments at bitcoin in evening. Whether they are hedging or what...
I'd stay prepared for taking profits from that
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April 05, 2013, 02:48:00 PM |
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i didn't understand any of that
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April 05, 2013, 02:50:44 PM |
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what do you think about this. what i'm seeing is that every time price stays above the top band for an extended period of time, it retraces, often to the 30 day wma but sometimes only to the 10
drawing channels is ok but i think you're setting yourself up for failure because you know its likely to break out as more and more people find out about bitcoin
bolinger bands seem to work better becuase they're dynamic
I'd say we need to defend your wma30 again as always =) |
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April 05, 2013, 04:16:30 PM |
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I don't like stocks bearish kickstart today and rising dollar from bullish PoV.
the dollar rally because of JPY http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1365178675195.png |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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