[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers

[Emerge]

Lisk v0.1.1 - Release Announcement

We have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.1.1, which brings Lisk one step further to being the most easy-to-use and versatile decentralized application platform on the market.


Read the changelog on our blog

On my client:

Lisk Client
v0.1.0 Latest version

[LiskHQ]

Lisk v0.1.1 - Release Announcement

We have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.1.1, which brings Lisk one step further to being the most easy-to-use and versatile decentralized application platform on the market.


Read the changelog on our blog

On my client:

Lisk Client
v0.1.0 Latest version

It shows 0.1.1 for me (https://i.imgur.com/jYMYTRA.jpg). Please check it again on https://login.lisk.io/.

Or do you mean something different?

[Acidx]

Oh, again the same problem of finding delegates.
And why account number ends on "C", not "L"?
And this brown color is ridiculous

Hi Starik69,

1. We have implemented "forging rewards" in addition to network transaction fees, so there will be a very good incentive for running a delegate.
2. Yes the account number will be changed, the network is in a testnet mode atm.
3. We can't please everyone about the colour or design, so sorry it's not to your liking.

As you well know, you and I have been long time supporters of the Crypti network. I'm currently running 36 / 101 active delegates, so this is a situation I was no longer prepared to put with. I made repeated calls for change, and I felt the pace of development was just too slow. Therefore we've decided to take affirmative action and launch Lisk, with the intention of making good on all the hard work done throughout the past year.

I think if you check my record throughout my time at Crypti, you will see that my contributions have always been significant and true.

Cheers

This reminds me a lot of r/bitcoin and why I wanted to switch to r/btc, things were not moving fast enough!

[Emerge]

Lisk v0.1.1 - Release Announcement

We have just updated our testnet to the latest Lisk client v0.1.1, which brings Lisk one step further to being the most easy-to-use and versatile decentralized application platform on the market.


Read the changelog on our blog

On my client:

Lisk Client
v0.1.0 Latest version

It shows 0.1.1 for me (https://i.imgur.com/jYMYTRA.jpg). Please check it again on https://login.lisk.io/.

Or do you mean something different?

On my node, it says that 0.1.0 is the latest client

[Poly#Crypto]

Looks like v 0.1.1




OMG, now I have an L-Adresse, but no more 1000 Lisk  

[karmacoma24]

On my node, it says that 0.1.0 is the latest client

Hi Emerge,

The version we have available for download is a local testnet only, therefore no peers. The reason being to keep things simple while we work on development before the ICO.

If you check our docs, you will see I have already uploaded the new version. So feel free to try it out.

Note, we always keep the very latest version of the client accessible here: https://login.lisk.io/ (supported by 5 peers).

[locos_pfc]

Signature added. Good luck!

[Emerge]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1360016.msg13842205#msg13842205

Filipino Thread added to the Philippines subforum.

Regards!

[LiskHQ]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1360016.msg13842205#msg13842205

Filipino Thread added to the Philippines subforum.

Regards!

Added to the OP! Thank you very much.

[Bigcabrito]

I just noticed I can easily create an account by typing different passwords and singing in...

This is counter-productive imo, what's the option of "New Account" in the Lisk login page for then?

Is there a way to warn the user he is about to create a new account (a popup or something)? It goes from Lisk login page > typed a random password > sign in > loading dashboard > brand new account.

[karmacoma24]

I just noticed I can easily create an account by typing different passwords and singing in...

This is not productive imo, what's the option of "New Account" in the Lisk login page for then?

Is there a way to warn the user he is about to create a new account (a popup or something)? It goes from Lisk login page > typed a random password > sign in > loading dashboard > brand new account.

Hi Bigcabrito,

There is an implicit 1:1 relationship between your choice of passphrase and an account on the network.

So given a passphrase of 1234 (your private key).

Lisk will always generate a public key of:

caf0f4c00cf9240771975e42b6672c88a832f98f01825dda6e001e2aab0bc0cc

Furthermore, using this public key, Lisk will always generate the following address: 9946841100442405851L

Therefore it's your choice of passphrase which determines whether you create an new account or not.

The New Account wizard is simply there to guide people through the process of generating a strong passphrase, and optionally downloading it for safe keeping. Something that people will often neglect to do

I hope that makes things clearer.

[MalReynolds]

I just noticed I can easily create an account by typing different passwords and singing in...

This is counter-productive imo, what's the option of "New Account" in the Lisk login page for then?

This gets into LISK BRAINWALLET SECURITY BASICS.  Lisk (and Crypti, and NXT, and...) is a brainwallet coin.   Brainwallets are a brilliant security system based on the deep beauty of elliptic curve mathematics.  Then lazy humans get into the picture, and the whole thing starts to fall apart...  

Just keep reading and skip this link unless you are a true math nerd (like me): https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/10/23/information-theoretic-account-secure-brainwallets/

LISK IS PERFECTLY SAFE AS LONG AS THE PASSWORD YOU USE IS STRONG ENOUGH.

IF YOU DREAM UP A PASSWORD "ON YOUR OWN" TO USE IN LISK, IT ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH.

It would be more accurate to say the "New Account" option in the Lisk client is actually a "strong password generator".  Sure, you can get to a unique Lisk account by typing a password that YOU came up with instead of the Lisk New Account word phrase.   But you will be using a MUCH MUCH MUCH weaker password than the password represented by the Lisk word phrase.   Using your own password to access a Lisk account virtually guarantees that hackers will eventually brute force your personal password for your account and steal all your Lisk.  They will do this sooner rather than later.  

http://www.coindesk.com/new-cracking-tool-exposes-major-flaw-in-bitcoin-brainwallets/

http://btcrumor.com/new-crack-software-will-hack-your-brainwallet-passphrase-in-seconds/

THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE IS A STRONG STRONG STRONG PASSWORD.

USE THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE OPTION.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

[Bigcabrito]

I just noticed I can easily create an account by typing different passwords and singing in...

This is counter-productive imo, what's the option of "New Account" in the Lisk login page for then?

Is there a way to warn the user he is about to create a new account (a popup or something)? It goes from Lisk login page > typed a random password > sign in > loading dashboard > brand new account.

This gets into the whole "brainwallet" thing.  Lisk (and Crypti, and NXT, and...) is a brainwallet coin.  

Brainwallets and a brainwallet coin like Lisk is perfectly safe AS LONG AS THE PASSWORD YOU USE IS STRONG ENOUGH.  

IF YOU DREAM UP A PASSWORD "ON YOUR OWN" FOR USE IN LISK, IT ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH.

Details here:

http://www.coindesk.com/new-cracking-tool-exposes-major-flaw-in-bitcoin-brainwallets/

http://btcrumor.com/new-crack-software-will-hack-your-brainwallet-passphrase-in-seconds/

It would be more accurate to say the "New Account" option in the Lisk client is actually a "strong password generator".  Sure, you can get to a unique Lisk account by typing a password that YOU came up with instead of the Lisk New Account word phrase.   But you will be using a MUCH MUCH MUCH weaker password than the password represented by the Lisk word phrase.   Using your own password to access a Lisk account virtually guarantees that hackers will eventually brute force your personal password for your account and steal all your Lisk.  They will do this sooner rather than later.  

THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE IS A STRONG STRONG STRONG PASSWORD.

USE THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE OPTION.

USE THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE OPTION.

USE THE LISK NEW ACCOUNT WORD PHRASE OPTION.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

There's also a second pass phrase option. I'd suggest enabling it too.

Either way that wasn't my point, I was merely asking if there is a way for the network to detect whether an account is new or not. And whether the network could warn the user he is about to create a new account.

There were some cases where people made a new account unknowingly and transferred funds to later realize it was not their account, but rather the newly minted account made by mistyping the password.

[MalReynolds]

...That wasn't my point, I was merely asking if there is a way for the network to detect whether an account is new or not. And whether the network could warn the user he is about to create a new account.

There were some cases where people made a new account unknowingly and transferred funds to later realize it was not their account, but rather the newly minted account made by mistyping the password.

What you are describing is the old computer "garbage in - garbage out" problem.  A computer will do exactly what you tell it to do.  There is a mathematically pre-existing Lisk account associated with every one of the infinite number of keyboard click patterns you can generate.  All of them start out as "empty" and "unused".  When you click a selected pattern of keys on the keyboard (a "password"), the Lisk client will mindlessly use the "account" associated with those key clicks.  When you ask "am I opening the correct account", you are really asking "did I correctly type in my password".  No computer can help you with that.  Maybe the UI could help a little, by asking you to type it in twice and make sure you typed an identical password both times... 

The only thing the network could do is detect if the account you are about to use has zero Lisk associated with it, or some other amount of Lisk, and ask if that looks right to you.  Technically in brainwallets there is no such thing as a "previously established account" that can be "checked by code".  All possible accounts in Lisk currently exist and have existed since the Big Bang created the number line.   It's a math thing.

Accidentally using the wrong account is a lot harder to do if you use the "New Account word phrase" instead of a cryptic alphanumeric password where you might transpose two characters.  That's another reason to use a pass phrase with many words instead of a single alphanumeric password.

[fartbags]

Who is the team? Who will control ICO funds?

[dzarmush]

Who is the team? Who will control ICO funds?

https://lisk.io/team

[LiskEnterprise]

Accepting Nxt might be a good idea. It's experiencing some issues with the price and trading volume for quite a while, so Nxt holders might be interested in new opportunities to make money. Also there are some Nxt whales that probably don't know what to do with their millions. And for Lisk devs it shoulnd't be worthless collected coins because Nxt is a great and strong technology which won't go down anytime soon.

yes agreed and i think they are deciding on this.

They have a history with NXT so i think it is a no brainier.

Cheers

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[LiskEnterprise]

Accepting Nxt might be a good idea. It's experiencing some issues with the price and trading volume for quite a while, so Nxt holders might be interested in new opportunities to make money. Also there are some Nxt whales that probably don't know what to do with their millions. And for Lisk devs it shoulnd't be worthless collected coins because Nxt is a great and strong technology which won't go down anytime soon.

yes agreed and i think they are deciding on this.

They have a history with NXT so i think it is a no brainier.

Cheers

Also accepting NXT maybe a hedge on ETH.

After this ETH jump you maybe soon receiving ETH for LISK and then there maybe a massive price drop as it comes back to a new settled point.

Perhaps

Lisk	.     Develop Decentralized Applications & Sidechains in JavaScript with Lisk!     Website | Blog | BTT Thread | Chat - Be part of the decentralized application movement!

[Rashid Ahmed]

Hi all!

Full Russian translation it's ready with last updates of this OP.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1346837.0

And please add me to Signature Campaign.

Thanks

[amanai]

Who is the team? Who will control ICO funds?

 Well AFAIK, Max should control the funds. And that is the best way to manage funds.