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November 24, 2016, 04:36:44 PM
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that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the begining. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

this only works if they have enough lisk. the ark guys have a lot of lisk and will vote their own delegates. and i think there are some other with a huge amount of lisk.

and yes. i don't like the voting system neither.

It costs millions of $ initial investment to startup a competitive Bitcoin mining operation.

Ethereum mining is similar, with big investments in hardware, datacenter, electricity.

It is hard for new comers to get a delegate spot, that's just the nature of a capitalist system.

Imagine if they changed it to 2000 delegates, so everyone could run a delegate.  Then there would be very little incentive to collect Lisk, form groups of supporters, and add value to Lisk in order to get a delegate position.

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November 24, 2016, 04:55:09 PM
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I've also updated my ⎋ DELEGATE PROPOSAL for ⎋ Community delegates contest!
Feel free to ask any questions and thanks for your votes!

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November 24, 2016, 05:01:16 PM
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I've also updated my ⎋ DELEGATE PROPOSAL for ⎋ Community delegates contest!
Feel free to ask any questions and thanks for your votes!
Pay me lisk and i wil vote .
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November 24, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
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that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the begining. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

this only works if they have enough lisk. the ark guys have a lot of lisk and will vote their own delegates. and i think there are some other with a huge amount of lisk.

and yes. i don't like the voting system neither.

It costs millions of $ initial investment to startup a competitive Bitcoin mining operation.

Ethereum mining is similar, with big investments in hardware, datacenter, electricity.

It is hard for new comers to get a delegate spot, that's just the nature of a capitalist system.

Imagine if they changed it to 2000 delegates, so everyone could run a delegate.  Then there would be very little incentive to collect Lisk, form groups of supporters, and add value to Lisk in order to get a delegate position.

yes thats capitalism. the rich get richer. and the richer become even richer.
and what is happening here and with other cryptos is that decentralation disappears.
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November 24, 2016, 06:38:59 PM
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that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the begining. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

this only works if they have enough lisk. the ark guys have a lot of lisk and will vote their own delegates. and i think there are some other with a huge amount of lisk.

and yes. i don't like the voting system neither.

It costs millions of $ initial investment to startup a competitive Bitcoin mining operation.

Ethereum mining is similar, with big investments in hardware, datacenter, electricity.

It is hard for new comers to get a delegate spot, that's just the nature of a capitalist system.

Imagine if they changed it to 2000 delegates, so everyone could run a delegate.  Then there would be very little incentive to collect Lisk, form groups of supporters, and add value to Lisk in order to get a delegate position.

yes thats capitalism. the rich get richer. and the richer become even richer.
and what is happening here and with other cryptos is that decentralation disappears.

It's happening everywhere, decentralisation doesn't mean everyone can or will be rich.
It's like first come, first served for example with Bitcoin (the early adopters/miners). You can't blame them only because they found (mined and bought) bitcoin before you or am I wrong?
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November 24, 2016, 06:42:18 PM
 #33366

that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the begining. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

this only works if they have enough lisk. the ark guys have a lot of lisk and will vote their own delegates. and i think there are some other with a huge amount of lisk.

and yes. i don't like the voting system neither.

It costs millions of $ initial investment to startup a competitive Bitcoin mining operation.

Ethereum mining is similar, with big investments in hardware, datacenter, electricity.

It is hard for new comers to get a delegate spot, that's just the nature of a capitalist system.

Imagine if they changed it to 2000 delegates, so everyone could run a delegate.  Then there would be very little incentive to collect Lisk, form groups of supporters, and add value to Lisk in order to get a delegate position.

yes thats capitalism. the rich get richer. and the richer become even richer.
and what is happening here and with other cryptos is that decentralation disappears.

It's happening everywhere, decentralisation doesn't mean everyone can or will be rich.
It's like first come, first served for example with Bitcoin (the early adopters/miners). You can't blame them only because they found (mined and bought) bitcoin before you or am I wrong?

your are not wrong according BTC. but why not to changes things that in future "the time of adoption" does not matter anymore?
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November 24, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
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that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the beginning. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

If it's so, the elections' logic is wrong.
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November 24, 2016, 08:17:52 PM
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that fucking carteling situation, still ruins the whole idea of delegates

But this is just a section in lisk forum where the delegates can imagine.
And most of them are very active community members since the beginning.


and whats then? they decided to vote on each other right from the begining. There is pretty little chances to a new comer to get involved
its clearly a cartel

this only works if they have enough lisk. the ark guys have a lot of lisk and will vote their own delegates. and i think there are some other with a huge amount of lisk.

and yes. i don't like the voting system neither.

It costs millions of $ initial investment to startup a competitive Bitcoin mining operation.

Ethereum mining is similar, with big investments in hardware, datacenter, electricity.

It is hard for new comers to get a delegate spot, that's just the nature of a capitalist system.

Imagine if they changed it to 2000 delegates, so everyone could run a delegate.  Then there would be very little incentive to collect Lisk, form groups of supporters, and add value to Lisk in order to get a delegate position.

yes thats capitalism. the rich get richer. and the richer become even richer.
and what is happening here and with other cryptos is that decentralation disappears.

It's happening everywhere, decentralisation doesn't mean everyone can or will be rich.
It's like first come, first served for example with Bitcoin (the early adopters/miners). You can't blame them only because they found (mined and bought) bitcoin before you or am I wrong?

your are not wrong according BTC. but why not to changes things that in future "the time of adoption" does not matter anymore?

If you come up with a good idea, like a blockchain app for example, then delegates, who are all different types of people from all over the world, might collectively invest more forged LSK than you would have forged by being a delegate.

Much more decentralized than old system where you would have to get approval from a bank or venture capitalist to finance a business plan.

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November 24, 2016, 08:43:08 PM
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Who asked about the Lisk faucet? I've got some news!

⎋ Ⱡisk.Gratis has been relaunched with a new design. It will work as long as account 4892902538529891985Ⱡ is funded. Additionally, to ensure the smooth operation of the faucet, a delegate ⎋ liskgratis was registered. When he gets into the Top-101, all forging rewards (excluding minimal server support costs) will be transferred directly to the faucet account.

Thank you for your support!



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November 24, 2016, 08:53:02 PM
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Who asked about the Lisk faucet? I've got some news!

⎋ Ⱡisk.Gratis has been relaunched with a new design. It will work as long as account 4892902538529891985Ⱡ is funded. Additionally, to ensure the smooth operation of the faucet, a delegate ⎋ liskgratis was registered. When he gets into the Top-101, all forging rewards (excluding minimal server support costs) will be transferred directly to the faucet account.

Thank you for your support!




Error  Smiley
I just saw this and had never been touched but a written warning that my IP is already in use, while I have not tried it with my static IP Smiley

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November 24, 2016, 08:59:11 PM
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How much i get per 1 vote delegate?
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November 24, 2016, 09:01:20 PM
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Who asked about the Lisk faucet? I've got some news!

⎋ Ⱡisk.Gratis has been relaunched with a new design. It will work as long as account 4892902538529891985Ⱡ is funded. Additionally, to ensure the smooth operation of the faucet, a delegate ⎋ liskgratis was registered. When he gets into the Top-101, all forging rewards (excluding minimal server support costs) will be transferred directly to the faucet account.

Thank you for your support!




Error  Smiley
I just saw this and had never been touched but a written warning that my IP is already in use, while I have not tried it with my static IP Smiley



I tried and get the same message - must be a fault in the faucet or something else.
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November 24, 2016, 09:05:34 PM
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i checked https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor and saw LATEST VOTES. i there a way to see for which delegate the vote was?

e.g. https://explorer.lisk.io/address/6452926849492147101L

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November 24, 2016, 09:29:12 PM
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Who asked about the Lisk faucet? I've got some news!

⎋ Ⱡisk.Gratis has been relaunched with a new design. It will work as long as account 4892902538529891985Ⱡ is funded. Additionally, to ensure the smooth operation of the faucet, a delegate ⎋ liskgratis was registered. When he gets into the Top-101, all forging rewards (excluding minimal server support costs) will be transferred directly to the faucet account.

Thank you for your support!




Error  Smiley
I just saw this and had never been touched but a written warning that my IP is already in use, while I have not tried it with my static IP Smiley



I tried and get the same message - must be a fault in the faucet or something else.
I also look at my browser to get the same warning and I think the owner of the site this faucet can explain the problem on its website
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November 24, 2016, 09:44:05 PM
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To be honest.. the delegates proposals are very indistinct..

There must be a list with al the delegates and their proposals right ..?
I m not talking about different topics, but just 1 list..

For example:

Delegate               Server(s)                Proposal                   Community sharing                 Fund Community
XXXXXX                XX                         XX (1 sentence)         YES/NO                                 YES/NO



Something like this..

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November 24, 2016, 10:14:25 PM
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Quote from: indocafe
I just saw this and had never been touched but a written warning that my IP is already in use, while I have not tried it with my static IP
Quote from: starmman
I tried and get the same message - must be a fault in the faucet or something else
Quote from: btcforks
I also look at my browser to get the same warning and I think the owner of the site this faucet can explain the problem on its website

Guys, I'm sorry, looks like it was redis problem. I've reset the database, so now everything has to work as designed.


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November 24, 2016, 10:19:39 PM
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Quote from: indocafe
I just saw this and had never been touched but a written warning that my IP is already in use, while I have not tried it with my static IP
Quote from: starmman
I tried and get the same message - must be a fault in the faucet or something else
Quote from: btcforks
I also look at my browser to get the same warning and I think the owner of the site this faucet can explain the problem on its website

Guys, I'm sorry, looks like it was redis problem. I've reset the database, so now everything has to work as designed.


Glad to hear your explanation, at least I am just testing the site and report the error in your site, it may be useful to existing communities in this thread
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November 24, 2016, 11:16:45 PM
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i checked https://explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor and saw LATEST VOTES. i there a way to see for which delegate the vote was?

e.g. https://explorer.lisk.io/address/6452926849492147101L

You can always read the docs and make an api call to any open api nodes. (I provide one at wallet.lisknode.io)

To make your life easier, an old timer lisker built a very nice website with this functionnality integrated.

It's MrV and his website is lisktools.io

For the address you gave you could use this address:

https://lisktools.io/accountInfo.php?address=6452926849492147101L
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November 24, 2016, 11:37:45 PM
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I don't post often over here but I've been very active in Lisk.chat and Lisk forums over the last months.

For those interested, I updated my delegate proposal for the contest.

It include all the links to my community services, guides, scripts, etc.

https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=143

Gr33drag0n for president Cheesy

Lol, I don't deserve that much :p

Thanxs for the compliment. I assume you liked my proposal.
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November 25, 2016, 02:21:11 AM
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I don't post often over here but I've been very active in Lisk.chat and Lisk forums over the last months.

For those interested, I updated my delegate proposal for the contest.

It include all the links to my community services, guides, scripts, etc.

https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=143

Gr33drag0n for president Cheesy

Lol, I don't deserve that much :p

Thanxs for the compliment. I assume you liked my proposal.

To be more accurate I have seen your work at the testnet, snapdragon  Wink
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