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November 12, 2016, 01:48:26 PM |
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yes bitcoin is being used for illigal activities but that does not term it as a bad stuff or i do not also think that normal people should interfare with those criminals well ofcourse if you want then can join them and make a deal but it depends on everyones point of view that why they are buing those
All illegal activities are bad stuffs so don't get wrong yourself for believing that there are illegal activities which can be good to our lives. And criminals are wise enough whether it is with fiat or bitcoin. In reality, bitcoin is really being used and abused by those type of people just to get satisfied their own purpose for being related in illegal activities. If you get caught you will be jailed but not bitcoin, it is not bitcoin's fault but yours. Even if fiat we can use in illegal activities and what more with bitcoin, what you need to do is just to be responsible enough so you will not suffer the consequences, bitcoin is freedom but we have to set limitations. very true. all things are indeed we can do in the bitcoin, however if we can not set a limit on using bitcoin then all it will negatively impact for us. as much as we do illegal transactions using bitcoin, so if it is in the know by law enforcement authorities then you will be in the search and imprisoned because of doing something illegal., it should determine the limits from now so as not to get stuck on a bad thing
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November 12, 2016, 02:06:00 PM |
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One thing to consider is this. Some people call certain things illegal. Other people call them legal. Who is right? Bitcoin legality and illegality means nothing. As long as nobody can collapse the Bitcoin system, the only thing that matters is if someone is harming someone else, or stealing his property. The only reason why government jokers call Bitcoin illegal at times is because, Bitcoin use is taking away their freedom to enslave the people. So, who is really illegal? The free people? Or the slave making governments? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 12, 2016, 06:38:49 PM |
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One thing to consider is this. Some people call certain things illegal. Other people call them legal. Who is right? Bitcoin legality and illegality means nothing. As long as nobody can collapse the Bitcoin system, the only thing that matters is if someone is harming someone else, or stealing his property. The only reason why government jokers call Bitcoin illegal at times is because, Bitcoin use is taking away their freedom to enslave the people. So, who is really illegal? The free people? Or the slave making governments? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) yes that is a fact people having freedom from centralize currency to be exchange for trading in some other currencies while bitcoin do not need these thing, bitcoin being universal currency having same value every where, while governments what their supremacy over every act of the people.
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bitbob82
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November 12, 2016, 07:15:31 PM |
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yes bitcoin is being used for illigal activities but that does not term it as a bad stuff or i do not also think that normal people should interfare with those criminals well ofcourse if you want then can join them and make a deal but it depends on everyones point of view that why they are buing those
All illegal activities are bad stuffs so don't get wrong yourself for believing that there are illegal activities which can be good to our lives. And criminals are wise enough whether it is with fiat or bitcoin. In reality, bitcoin is really being used and abused by those type of people just to get satisfied their own purpose for being related in illegal activities. If you get caught you will be jailed but not bitcoin, it is not bitcoin's fault but yours. Even if fiat we can use in illegal activities and what more with bitcoin, what you need to do is just to be responsible enough so you will not suffer the consequences, bitcoin is freedom but we have to set limitations. yes just like other currencies bitcoin may also be used for some illegal activities but it is not necessary, i think there will be very little chance for that as most of the educated people still do not know any thing about bitcoin so how there criminal kind of people can know about that.
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South Park
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November 12, 2016, 08:57:39 PM |
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Why not. More than banking criminals will love to use bitcoin fit they illegal transaction because bitcoin is anonymous and will help them to stay hidden from the bright. Also in silk road bitcoin is highly used because it doesn't have much transaction charge, it doesn't have any barriers, it is pseudonymous and no one could ever track the transaction owner. So it's ease to use bitcoin for illegal activities.
This is not entirely right, criminals are mostly still using fiat for their illegal business bitcoin is just a small part of it, and second unless you take measures tracking your bitcoin transactions is very easy and there have been some raids that closed down some of those dark marketplaces. Most of the illegal stuff happens with fiat, that's for sure. But no matter how small the number of Bitcoin related illegal activities are compared to fiat, people will always point their dirty finger at Bitcoin. If you talk to them and explain that fiat is the real problem, then they will either cut the discussion, or tell you that Bitcoin is the currency of the underworld. The media has brainwashed the average person to a serious level. No matter what good features of Bitcoin you highlight, for them it still doesn't make a difference. Those are the people that always say something like, oh I should have invested in X before it had such a huge rise, they rely on the mainstream media to tell them what to think instead of thinking by themselves.
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Mirconome
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November 12, 2016, 11:24:49 PM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
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20kevin20
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November 12, 2016, 11:28:17 PM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
So isn't the dollar involved in WAY more illegal activities? Criminals are obviously looking for ways to be anonymous when dealing with illegal stuff, so if they heard of Bitcoin they'd have to go to it because this is what they're looking for. I'm here because of the 2013 huge price spike which I'm hoping to see for the second time by the next winter.
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coszy
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November 12, 2016, 11:53:51 PM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
So isn't the dollar involved in WAY more illegal activities? Criminals are obviously looking for ways to be anonymous when dealing with illegal stuff, so if they heard of Bitcoin they'd have to go to it because this is what they're looking for. I'm here because of the 2013 huge price spike which I'm hoping to see for the second time by the next winter. Criminals can use the possible temporary transfer bitcoin, and these transactions no trace. These issues are already engaged in the interpolation, because it already has a suspicion.
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john2231
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November 12, 2016, 11:59:59 PM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
So isn't the dollar involved in WAY more illegal activities? Criminals are obviously looking for ways to be anonymous when dealing with illegal stuff, so if they heard of Bitcoin they'd have to go to it because this is what they're looking for. I'm here because of the 2013 huge price spike which I'm hoping to see for the second time by the next winter. Criminals can use the possible temporary transfer bitcoin, and these transactions no trace. These issues are already engaged in the interpolation, because it already has a suspicion. I hope bitcoin developers think about the transaction to be traceable because scammers abuse this kind of system that is why we are still not so popular because many people are afraid to be scam.. and some illegal activities using bitcoin. like my father said my wife they said when i was newbie that bitcoin is scam but in the first time of collecting bitcoin from faucet i tried to withdraw that i thought too that its scam but after withdrawing i receive it cash so it means it is not scam and now they are believe that bitcoin is not scam.. and bitcoin is not illegal to collect. but my father still afraid and maybe there is a police or nbi to arrest me. because of collecting bitcoin.. but until now since 1 year no NBI arrested me..
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Winter1986
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November 13, 2016, 12:29:52 AM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
So isn't the dollar involved in WAY more illegal activities? Criminals are obviously looking for ways to be anonymous when dealing with illegal stuff, so if they heard of Bitcoin they'd have to go to it because this is what they're looking for. I'm here because of the 2013 huge price spike which I'm hoping to see for the second time by the next winter. Criminals can use the possible temporary transfer bitcoin, and these transactions no trace. These issues are already engaged in the interpolation, because it already has a suspicion. I hope bitcoin developers think about the transaction to be traceable because scammers abuse this kind of system that is why we are still not so popular because many people are afraid to be scam.. and some illegal activities using bitcoin. like my father said my wife they said when i was newbie that bitcoin is scam but in the first time of collecting bitcoin from faucet i tried to withdraw that i thought too that its scam but after withdrawing i receive it cash so it means it is not scam and now they are believe that bitcoin is not scam.. and bitcoin is not illegal to collect. but my father still afraid and maybe there is a police or nbi to arrest me. because of collecting bitcoin.. but until now since 1 year no NBI arrested me.. This is another fact that you need to keep it a secret and not to spread about their affairs with bitcoin anyone. Thus it is possible to suffer very seriously.
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November 13, 2016, 01:57:24 AM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
So isn't the dollar involved in WAY more illegal activities? Criminals are obviously looking for ways to be anonymous when dealing with illegal stuff, so if they heard of Bitcoin they'd have to go to it because this is what they're looking for. I'm here because of the 2013 huge price spike which I'm hoping to see for the second time by the next winter. Criminals can use the possible temporary transfer bitcoin, and these transactions no trace. These issues are already engaged in the interpolation, because it already has a suspicion. I hope bitcoin developers think about the transaction to be traceable because scammers abuse this kind of system that is why we are still not so popular because many people are afraid to be scam.. and some illegal activities using bitcoin. like my father said my wife they said when i was newbie that bitcoin is scam but in the first time of collecting bitcoin from faucet i tried to withdraw that i thought too that its scam but after withdrawing i receive it cash so it means it is not scam and now they are believe that bitcoin is not scam.. and bitcoin is not illegal to collect. but my father still afraid and maybe there is a police or nbi to arrest me. because of collecting bitcoin.. but until now since 1 year no NBI arrested me.. This is another fact that you need to keep it a secret and not to spread about their affairs with bitcoin anyone. Thus it is possible to suffer very seriously. The system cannot be change, it was designed this way and that system makes the people love bitcoin. If you are trying to eliminate the illegal users of bitcoin you cannot eliminate the system but them, it's the duty of the government to trace this kind of people and I believe they have the capacity to do it.
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November 13, 2016, 02:15:57 AM |
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c'mon, fi**ck this... MUCH MORE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES WAS MADE WITH FIAT. BLAHHHHH.
Bitcoin is so cool that this month I save my friends marriage with BtC. SO F8**CK this "illegal".. let's think about "legal"... you can buy legal marijuana, you can play in casino, you can pay bicthes to go to our home, WHATELSE you want? Bitcoin is a paradise, this "illegal" stamp is pretty old look, nowdays, bitcoin is much more about freedom than "wrong things", so... you can use it illegaly: YES; so, what money hsa a shield against that? So, let's enjoy freedom.
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November 13, 2016, 03:55:09 AM |
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c'mon, fi**ck this... MUCH MORE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES WAS MADE WITH FIAT. BLAHHHHH.
Bitcoin is so cool that this month I save my friends marriage with BtC. SO F8**CK this "illegal".. let's think about "legal"... you can buy legal marijuana, you can play in casino, you can pay bicthes to go to our home, WHATELSE you want? Bitcoin is a paradise, this "illegal" stamp is pretty old look, nowdays, bitcoin is much more about freedom than "wrong things", so... you can use it illegaly: YES; so, what money hsa a shield against that? So, let's enjoy freedom.
I don't know about the bitches, could you tell me where to buy them, I want them to go home as well after your home. LOL., It depends on a certain country, there are countries that online gambling is illegal but because of bitcoin they gamble easily, and look at this.. even kids nowadays can easily do gambling because there's no restriction in a gambling sight aside from asking you if you are minor or not but they do not see you.
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November 13, 2016, 04:32:27 AM |
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yea i think that bitcoin used for illegal activity like purcashe some illegal service porn gambling drugs etc in my country thats activity is not allowed ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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November 13, 2016, 04:52:51 AM |
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bitcoin is used everywhere, good/bad :d
There is no doubt at all about this one, I think most of the items right can be used by illegal activities. The thing here is that more on the digital world has never established its laws yet unlike on the real world
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November 13, 2016, 04:55:33 AM |
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Yes, it is. Bitcoin have been used for illegal activities for many years and so do the money. Everything in this world can be easily abused by bad guys, bad organizations for bad purposes. However, as long as bitcoin keep developing, nothing can prevent it from being the new world currency
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November 13, 2016, 05:33:27 AM |
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To date, some states are very strict control over financial flows and greatly depress incomes, especially if they do not have the possibility to take the tax. But if that kind of money involved to commit more crimes, the ban could be a matter of time.
Bitcoin can't be taxed for sure and with some tumbling tracking down bitcoin transaction is almost impossible. Banning sound completely out of option for bitcoin.
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November 13, 2016, 05:52:44 AM |
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Bitcoin like fiat is also used in some illegal activities in online business. Online investment scams often uses bitcoins for their notorious activities. Some government authorities are also looking for a possiblity that bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies might be used for money laundering for funding drug trade or terrorism.
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November 13, 2016, 06:25:29 AM |
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Bitcoin like fiat is also used in some illegal activities in online business. Online investment scams often uses bitcoins for their notorious activities. Some government authorities are also looking for a possiblity that bitcoins or other cryptocurrencies might be used for money laundering for funding drug trade or terrorism.
The fact that the bitcoin can be connected even against the will of terrorism, even to think not want to, because it can put an end to all users lose their income. Illegal existence bitcoin even accelerates this process.
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November 13, 2016, 07:09:58 AM |
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Yes, it is. Bitcoin have been used for illegal activities for many years and so do the money. Everything in this world can be easily abused by bad guys, bad organizations for bad purposes. However, as long as bitcoin keep developing, nothing can prevent it from being the new world currency
Global currency will not be possible, but that it can achieve recognition in each country, that's for sure. The main objective is to become a popular bitcoin currency and not give disadvantaged users to tarnish it.
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