Proof that God exists

[eon89]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

Read Psalm 137:9.  Explain the quote.  Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks.

Read the rest of the Bible.  Please.

He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.

It's so interesting how you can sometimes interpret things and other times you have to take them literally.

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[af_newbie]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

Read Psalm 137:9.  Explain the quote.  Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks.

Read the rest of the Bible.  Please.

He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.

Is it moral?

[bonski]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

Read Psalm 137:9.  Explain the quote.  Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks.

Read the rest of the Bible.  Please.

He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.

It's so interesting how you can sometimes interpret things and other times you have to take them literally.

But as I said to my earlier posts I came here in peace not to argue and not to make war. I admire all of you guys, I just came here to proof by myself that God exist. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do what you want. But remember, even when you say God doesn't exist, with the word KARMA everything that happens has a purpose as the bible says.

God bless you all. Peace be with you guys. I love you all with the love of the Lord.

[mainpmf]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

God is a spirit.
John 4:24 "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Satan is also a spirit that encourage people to be bad, to kill and he is the one that brings sorrow,sadness and all terrible things to us.
John 8:44
"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the."

So it's our fault when babies die as soon as they're born? It's our fault if diseases kills babies and children? You gotta explain this...

[eon89]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

Read Psalm 137:9.  Explain the quote.  Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks.

Read the rest of the Bible.  Please.

He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.

It's so interesting how you can sometimes interpret things and other times you have to take them literally.

But as I said to my earlier posts I came here in peace not to argue and not to make war. I admire all of you guys, I just came here to proof by myself that God exist. We have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to do what you want. But remember, even when you say God doesn't exist, with the word KARMA everything that happens has a purpose as the bible says.

God bless you all. Peace be with you guys. I love you all with the love of the Lord.

Ok, let me tell you something.
We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me.
Live long and prosper

[eon89]

And why can't he just let people alone and die in peace?
Why does he have to kill babies? Because the babies refused to come to him? --'

God doesn't kill babies, but us human beings. God created us with free will as satan has. Yes we know that babies doesn't sin, but God permits something to happen even if its bad because  worst things might occur.

Read Psalm 137:9.  Explain the quote.  Please I like to know under what context it is ok to smash your babies against the rocks.

Read the rest of the Bible.  Please.

He refers to Isaiah's prophecy in Isaiah 13:16 promising good success to Cyrus and Darius, whom ambition moved to fight against Babylon, but God used them as his rods to punish his enemies.

Is it moral?

Since God is all powerful I guess He's also above morality.
The strongest makes the rules. Like in the jungle.

[bonski]

Ok, let me tell you something.
We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me.
Live long and prosper

I'm very sorry for the term I used, "not to make war". Same to you live long and may you be prosperous. I'm praying that you will be more successful on what you have now.

[eon89]

Ok, let me tell you something.
We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me.
Live long and prosper

I'm very sorry for the term I used, "not to make war". Same to you live long and may you be prosperous. I'm praying that you will be more successful on what you have now.

Again - you don't have to be sorry.
The main idea was for you to understand that you can have your own opinion, we can have ours, but no one's being violent about it.
That's why you have a brain - to use it.
What's important is not to impose unto others with personal beliefs.

[mainpmf]

Ok, let me tell you something.
We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me.
Live long and prosper

Well talk for yourself. Me I'd maybe try to burn them you know

[gregyoung14]

Ok, let me tell you something.
We are discussing here a topic. The spirits might be raised a bit. But no one's making war. If we were in the same room no one would do anything else except to discuss. At least that's what we atheists would do. And I think the other guys will agree with me.
Live long and prosper

Well talk for yourself. Me I'd maybe try to burn them you know

Haha. I guess I have to agree with him. To each is his own?

[eon89]

I'm not sure violence is the key to deal with people that can't reason very well.
I'm not saying to turn the other cheek, but still.

[youdamushi]

I'm not sure violence is the key to deal with people that can't reason very well.
I'm not saying to turn the other cheek, but still.

Violence no, but a bullet in the head is a definitive solution. 

[youdamushi]

I'm not sure violence is the key to deal with people that can't reason very well.
I'm not saying to turn the other cheek, but still.

Violence no, but a bullet in the head is a definitive solution. 

It was tried in the past.  That solution does not work long-term 

Bah!
If you kill them all, nobody will be left to spread there word!
Religion is a bit like a disease, kill all the infected and it'll be good

[valta4065]

Even if you eradicate the hosts, you still did not kill the virus.

You have to kill the idea.  That is your virus.

So that nobody in their right mind would believe in these myths in the future.

Today, nobody would believe Zeus has any power.  In the future, same thing will happen to Allah, Christian God(s) or thousands of other Gods.

That's an interesting idea.
What would happen if you'd kill all the religious?
Would another religion emerge?
The religions today survive nearly only from tradition. If you destroy them and the tradition, do you think the virus could come back?

[hugoworld]

Even if you eradicate the hosts, you still did not kill the virus.

You have to kill the idea.  That is your virus.

So that nobody in their right mind would believe in these myths in the future.

Today, nobody would believe Zeus has any power.  In the future, same thing will happen to Allah, Christian God(s) or thousands of other Gods.

That's an interesting idea.
What would happen if you'd kill all the religious?
Would another religion emerge?
The religions today survive nearly only from tradition. If you destroy them and the tradition, do you think the virus could come back?

this isnt a interesting idea.. it should be happened.. we must demolish all the religion and the world will be a better place than today..

[youdamushi]

It depends on the culture/community.  Religions are usually developed in that context.  Education is the key.  
If you leave parts of the world behind science and technology, then yes, people will revert to ancient belief systems because there will be nothing to explain the world they observe.

Religion is a survival mechanism we used to explain unexplained, potentially dangerous situations.  

Well that's for sure. if religion brought anything else than stupidity and doom on humanity, it wouldn't disappear in educated population. The more you get educated the less religious you become.

[CreativeCarol]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

[BADecker]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.

Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.   

[Moloch]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.

Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

He's funny... thinks he can troll Atheists with, "you're a religion too"... rofl...

When the only person you fool is yourself, who is the fool?

[BADecker]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.

Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.   

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

You believe that God exists? Starting when?