Proof that God exists

[BADecker]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.

Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.    

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

He's funny... thinks he can troll Atheists with, "you're a religion too"... rofl...

Then the only person you fool is yourself... who is the fool?

And you think that you can get out of the dictionary definitions that show atheism is a religion? Who does your typing for you, since you can't even read... and can barely think?

[BADecker]

Religion can be a touchy subject. We don't know if a god exists or not, so in my belief it's best to stay in between which would be agnostic.

The point is it should not be.  There is nothing, absolutely nothing sacred about these irrational beliefs.  

If someone can demonstrate that God physically (not just in their mind) exist, we can all move on and accept it.

If he existed we would not need faith.

Especially about the religious beliefs of the atheism religion.   

Making new definitions as we go along....

BTW, I'm a humanist and anti-theist.  I'm pretty sure I'm not religious.

You believe that God exists? Starting when?   

No wonder you have problem with Bible verses.  You cannot read and understand my posts.  But I'm not judging....I'll give a minute to google the terms...

You don't even seem to recognize that, nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist, and there is much evidence that He DOES exist, and so you set yourself up as God by making un-certifiable statements about your faith that God does not exist.

[Moloch]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

[BADecker]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.   

[BADecker]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.   

Can't do either, can you, especially in the face of common scientific laws - cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy - that prove that God exists.

[af_newbie]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.   

Can't do either, can you, especially in the face of common scientific laws - cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy - that prove that God exists.

I thought we went through this several times.

Anyway, God does not exist because there is no evidence of his existence.

[Moloch]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.

Based solely on the lack of evidence, the hypothesis that, "the Christian God exists" is rejected... the burden of proof is on you, not me

Once you include the counter-examples, it becomes obvious that there has never been a God of any definition, Christian or otherwise

[BADecker]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.    

Can't do either, can you, especially in the face of common scientific laws - cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy - that prove that God exists.

I thought we went through this several times.

Anyway, God does not exist because there is no evidence of his existence.

We went through this many times. And so far you haven't been able to refute it... that God exists scientifically. You always have lots of words. But none of them refute it scientifically.

[BADecker]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.

Based solely on the lack of evidence, the hypothesis that, "the Christian God exists" is rejected... the burden of proof is on you, not me

Once you include the counter-examples, it becomes obvious that there has never been a God of any definition, Christian or otherwise

No burden. The proof belongs to science. The proof lies in combining cause and effect, with complex universe, with universal entropy. These prove the existence of God.

[Moloch]

nobody knows that God DOESN'T exist

Wrong, I know this well beyond any doubt (reasonable or otherwise)

Both, prove that God doesn't exist, and prove that you know it.

Based solely on the lack of evidence, the hypothesis that, "the Christian God exists" is rejected... the burden of proof is on you, not me

Once you include the counter-examples, it becomes obvious that there has never been a God of any definition, Christian or otherwise

No burden. The proof belongs to science. The proof lies in combining cause and effect, with complex universe, with universal entropy. These prove the existence of God.

Are you Marco Rubio? (aka Marco Roboto)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGWPo7GqA6w

[Moloch]

Ok, which one of you jokers just posted this video?  I know it's someone reading this forum, so speak up or pm me if you are shy...

Idaho Republicans Want The Bible In Science Class
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXFY29ZRHB8

This is pathetic man
This is embarassing on the world stage
I almost don't want to do this story because I don't want people in the UK, and Australia and Canada to go, "Really?... Really guys?... That's what you're doing? You're gonna fucking use the bible in science classes?!?"

This predates science... What are you doing?
This is a sick disgusting joke

You'll never see republicans run to separation of church and state faster than when you say, "Great!... let's break out the Koran and the Hadith!... Somebody grab me the Bhagavad Gita while we're at it!"

You have to depoliticize education, and just let the people who know what the fuck they are talking about make the curriculum... but when we don't have that, and we have these dunces doing it, we become an embarrassment to the entire world

[bonski]

Here is an example illustration about an hairdresser and child in a salon talking about the existence of God.

Hairdresser: Kid, do you know that God really doesn't exist?
Child: Why?
Hairdresser: Look around you there's a lot of people that has sicknesses,poor people and different problems. If He is true and alive why He is not fixing things to good? That's why I don't believe in Him.
Child: Really? Me, I don't believe that there are hairdressers.
Hairdresser: Haha! Really? Here I am an hairdresser.
Child: Look outside, there's a lot of people with long hair and thick hairs. That's why I don't believe there's an hairdresser.
Hairdresser: Eh, they're not coming to me and I can't cut their hairs if they don't want to.
Child: Just like God, He won't fix things and bad things to your life if you don't want to come to Him.

[Moloch]

Seriously?  You follow my epic, factual news story... with some bullshit about a kid talking to a hairdresser?

This is why Atheists think Christians are a joke

[LyQaN]

Here is an example illustration about an hairdresser and child in a salon talking about the existence of God.

Hairdresser: Kid, do you know that God really doesn't exist?
Child: Why?
Hairdresser: Look around you there's a lot of people that has sicknesses,poor people and different problems. If He is true and alive why He is not fixing things to good? That's why I don't believe in Him.
Child: Really? Me, I don't believe that there are hairdressers.
Hairdresser: Haha! Really? Here I am an hairdresser.
Child: Look outside, there's a lot of people with long hair and thick hairs. That's why I don't believe there's an hairdresser.
Hairdresser: Eh, they're not coming to me and I can't cut their hairs if they don't want to.
Child: Just like God, He won't fix things and bad things to your life if you don't want to come to Him.

Awesome.
Thumbs up

[af_newbie]

Seriously?  You follow my epic, factual news story... with some bullshit about a kid talking to a hairdresser?

This is why Atheists think Christians are a joke

I think it is time for that "If you believe in XXX, you might be a Christian..." thread...

[bonski]

Seriously?  You follow my epic, factual news story... with some bullshit about a kid talking to a hairdresser?

This is why Atheists think Christians are a joke

How about the theory of evolution of Charles Darwin, is that true? We came from apes? since you are justifying your own thought scientifically and mentally, did someone proved it? then give some proof who created the universe, because I believe God created the whole universe. If you will answer about theories specifically big bang theory, since it is a "theory" still no one proved it and it will still remain a theory.

[Moloch]

Seriously?  You follow my epic, factual news story... with some bullshit about a kid talking to a hairdresser?

This is why Atheists think Christians are a joke

How about the theory of evolution of Charles Darwin, is that true? We came from apes? since you are justifying your own thought scientifically and mentally, did someone proved it? then give some proof who created the universe, because I believe God created the whole universe. If you will answer about theories specifically big bang theory, since it is a "theory" still no one proved it and it will still remain a theory.

This has all been discussed ad nauseam (try reading a few posts before making yourself look foolish)

1) Yes, evolution is a proven fact
2) Nobody said we came from apes, evolution posits that chimpanzees and humans share a common ancestor that was neither human nor ape
3) Yes, it has been proven as well as anything non-mathematical can be proven in science, including branches of archaeology, genetics, and embryonic comparisons
4) Theory does not mean hypothesis... Theory is the equivalent of law without the accompanying mathematical proof


Most people overlook embryological evidence for evolution...



If you ever wondered why humans get the hiccups... it's because long, long ago... we used to be FISH

You can literally watch the evolution from species to species as an embryo/baby grows inside it's mother

[af_newbie]

Seriously?  You follow my epic, factual news story... with some bullshit about a kid talking to a hairdresser?

This is why Atheists think Christians are a joke

How about the theory of evolution of Charles Darwin, is that true? We came from apes? since you are justifying your own thought scientifically and mentally, did someone proved it? then give some proof who created the universe, because I believe God created the whole universe. If you will answer about theories specifically big bang theory, since it is a "theory" still no one proved it and it will still remain a theory.

Tons of evidence for both.  We are closely related to the same ancestor as chimpanzees.  We share 98+% of DNA with chimpanzees.

Evolution
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo#Hominina - start here to get basic terminology

https://myweb.rollins.edu/jsiry/Rich'd_Dawkins-Evidence_Evolution.htm

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence

http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/five-proofs-evolution

Big bang
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http://www.universetoday.com/106498/what-is-the-evidence-for-the-big-bang/

http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/astro/cosmos/bb_evid

http://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang/


There is a great book on history of humans, I strongly recommend it to anyone who is interested in how we shaped our history, why we have (had) religions, how societies were formed and structured.  It takes you from pre-stone age times all the way to present.  Amazing story of human experience.

http://www.amazon.com/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1455857411&sr=8-1&keywords=A+brief+history+of+human

I can guarantee you, you'll look at the world, your country, your religion, your nationality in a completely different way.
Read the reviews on amazon if you don't believe me.


There is also a good documentary on PBS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E6K49qvmSk

[srinikethan]

yes god does exists...there are many proofs that god exists...even after the discovery of god partical many people still questions the existance of god:(

[organofcorti]

yes god does exists...there are many proofs that god exists...even after the discovery of god partical many people still questions the existance of god:(

The "god particle" does not prove the existence of god. The term "god particle" is a name used by mass media for the Higgs boson.

Any other proofs? Maybe a Jesus particle or a Krishna particle? Or Quetzalcoatl rays?