Proof that God exists

[yugo23]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

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[organofcorti]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>

Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

No deception. I asked a question. You attacked. It's just what you do. And you're attacking because you have, well, nothing.

[eon89]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

No one's saying anything but as log as there is no proof, you know... It isn't provable. Kinda pointless to say more.

[craked5]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete.<snip>

Obsolete? So you admit that you were previously a scammer?

Maybe he was a scammer. But you show by your posts that you are nothing less than a deceptive, lying troll.

No deception. I asked a question. You attacked. It's just what you do. And you're attacking because you have, well, nothing.

You're trying to actually think through actual logic in a religious debate. hence you're a deceptive troll ^^

[af_newbie]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

Listen, they are scamming people out of their money.  Promising them something that does not exist.
The best scammers believe in their scam.

Take a look at my other thread were I posted links to show how they scam people.  Documentaries were done
by major news networks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Despite the fact it is an obvious scam, people still fall for it.  Just like Nigerian scam, only institutionalized and legal.


 

[craked5]

Not any of these links you posted are mine, so your claims about so called "my scam" are obsolete. And why are you afraid of "my scam"-by your definition, if atheism is accurate and correct.

I see you like watching youtube videos, so here is a link specially for you:

Is Religion Intellectually Dangerous? Featuring Dr. John Lennox at the University of Toronto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhrxwb2bfSg

Religion is scam, you are supporter of this scam.

Religion has absolutely nothing to do with science. 

John Lennox got his ass handed to him by Lawrence Krauss.  The guy makes a bunch of assumptions based on his religious beliefs.
He sounds like BADecker.  He is not a scientist.  More like a philosopher.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKt2NPbTHM0

Wow you're a bit harsh dude ^^

Religion is not exactly a scam, it's more like  a strange bet without any proof.
But calling every religious scammer is a bit extreme xD

Listen, they are scamming people out of their money.  Promising them something that does not exist.
The best scammers believe in their scam.

Take a look at my other thread were I posted links to show how they scam people.  Documentaries were done
by major news networks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367070.0

Despite the fact it is an obvious scam, people still fall for it.  Just like Nigerian scam, only institutionalized and legal.


 

Damn yeah sorry I forgot you're talking about America the country of "free entreprise" where it's allowed to actually sell tickets to heaven xD

Sorry I thought you were talking in more general way, about civilized countries for example. Where such things are forbidden for rather obvious reasons...

[Slow death]

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There are amongst us a group of people who believe that while there is no proof that God exists, there also is no proof that He doesn't exist.
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Which god?  But even ignoring that fact.

The evidence for non-existence is circumstantial as there is no physical evidence of his/her/it existence.  But here is the circumstantial evidence:

- no physical evidence
- 'God' of different cultures, 'revealed' himself/herself/itself at various periods in distant past to a few individuals spoke fluent English, Arabic, Aramaic or Hebrew.  The wisdom he provided does not meet the very basic standard of human morality or social justice of today.  If he wanted to guide men and women, he would interact with the physical realm, update his/her holy books etc.
- this imaginary god supposedly created world with all the universes about 13.8 billion of years ago.  Then waited about 9 billion years to create Earth in this particular universe, and another 4.5 billion to create humans in his own image.  His works ethic are, well, questionable.  Why the wait?
- why did he created imperfect human body: why we have jaw that does not fit all the teeth, our immune system is in constant war with viruses and bacteria?  He is either lazy or is constantly fighting diseases himself, viruses/bacteria which he himself created?  I hope he has a good health plan.

Now more specific points about Christianity:
- Jesus of Nazareth is a myth.  Many historians already debunked this myth.  youtube Richard Carrier  
- nobody demonstrated virgin birth since 'birth of Christ', physically impossible to conceive without human sperm penetrating egg wall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDhf2was8w  But people who wrote the story did not know that.
- why would god want to be killed to forgive human sins, he could have just forgive them and be done with it. Again, the novelist who wrote the story did not think this through.  
- why he wants to torture people who use their brain he/she himself/herself gave them in the first place.  He behaves very ungodly, very human like.  Perhaps because he is an imaginary construct devised by the 1st century publicist.
- water cannot be turned into wine, the cracker you eat during mass does not turn into flesh of Christ, nobody can walk on water.  All these claims are false, so the whole premise is false.

And Islam:
- horses don't fly, never did, never will
- morality provided by this god is on par with Christian or Jewish god, from which the myth has been derived
- raping young children, killing apostates, or gay people is immoral.  Only genocidal maniac would recommend such 'solutions'.  Maybe because Quran was written by such people.

and not to forget Jewish god:
- 40 years in the dessert, parting sea waters and manna from heaven sounds as ridiculous as tooth fairies, or flat Earth.
- 600+ some 'laws'.  Why so many? He was lazy enough with creation job, but very diligent in describing who you can beat to death, who you can rape, or kill.  Who you can have sex with, who you cannot.  BTW, if he was against gays why did he create lambs?  15-20% of lambs are gay.
All their laws are ridiculous by today's standards.

Should I go on with Mormonism?  Or you have get the picture...

very shocking

[magnific61]

This forum proofs God's existence.
So,  can you claim that computers, internet lines, satellites,  even wires which carries data between distance become by coincidence?  NO! Nobody will accept that theory.
There are many engineers behind that technology. They worked and made all those stuffs we use.
What is the connection to God's existence?
From micro to macro whole universe can  became by coincidence.? If yes, how your mind accepts that, coincidence and decline other?
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

[magnific61]

Nobody is more blind than who doesn't wat to see.

[BADecker]

...blah, blah, religious shit, blah, blah...
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So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.

We are not perfect "design", more like agile design (as in Agile Development), small improvements over the course of the evolution.

Still, our jaws cannot fit all of our teeth, after millions of years of evolution...

God did not create us, God did not create the universe, God did not create Earth.  And finally, God does not exist.

You are arguing from ignorance.  What you don't understand you fill with "God did it".

After mankind asked for imperfection, and after God gave it to mankind, the imperfection that mankind asked for acts perfectly, according to universal laws.

[bonski]

This forum proofs God's existence.
So,  can you claim that computers, internet lines, satellites,  even wires which carries data between distance become by coincidence?  NO! Nobody will accept that theory.
There are many engineers behind that technology. They worked and made all those stuffs we use.
What is the connection to God's existence?
From micro to macro whole universe can  became by coincidence.? If yes, how your mind accepts that, coincidence and decline other?
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

You got it mate, but everyone here is supposed to be an theist that they will keep on proving with the knowledge that they know and they would even mock God and persecute us that believe God.

[eon89]

...blah, blah, religious shit, blah, blah...
..
So there's a builder, a creator of that perfect system and that is GOD!

Universe is not a perfect system.  It is actually very violent and very hostile to life.

We are not perfect "design", more like agile design (as in Agile Development), small improvements over the course of the evolution.

Still, our jaws cannot fit all of our teeth, after millions of years of evolution...

God did not create us, God did not create the universe, God did not create Earth.  And finally, God does not exist.

You are arguing from ignorance.  What you don't understand you fill with "God did it".

After mankind asked for imperfection, and after God gave it to mankind, the imperfection that mankind asked for acts perfectly, according to universal laws.

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

[bonski]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

[eon89]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

[bonski]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

[eon89]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I see. So when parents of sick children pray to God for the child not to die, but the child still dies, God is there answering, right? I mean it does make sense, does it not?

[eon89]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I asked him repeatedly to come and post in this forum.  No response.

I guess he is busy 

No, no. He did answer, but you have not heard Him. Because reasons...

[bonski]

Mankind asked for imperfection? You do realize that makes no sense, right? People want sorrow, disease, death?!

he will know that God really exist when he is on that conditions and no one wants to help him  out. Then it is the time to call to God so that He can prove to you that He is real, and He really do exists and He created everything. And He really loves each and everyone of us. But if he will harden his heart , and when he dies he will know that hell and heaven is real.

How about when God answers with a NO, as He usually does? Does He still exist? Or is it an empty hope?

Yes He still exist, and He will never say no to everyone that comes to Him.
John 6:37 King James Version (KJV)
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

I see. So when parents of sick children pray to God for the child not to die, but the child still dies, God is there answering, right? I mean it does make sense, does it not?

Yes, just like in our church which is 'Jesus Miracle Crusade International Ministry' we live by faith not by sight and we always ask the guidance of Dearest Jesus Christ and our beloved Pastor is a true prophet of God who went to the mountains of talipao jolo, sulu , Philippines went back year 2000(which is the den of lions) in short camp of terrorist group called Abu Sayyaf, but our beloved Pastor proved that our God is real and they came back alive after 3 months staying there and the sipadan hostages freed by the abu sayyaf commanders, in your example then if the child dies then it is God's will. God gives life, and God gets life.

[criptix]

God cant be proven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol  

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...

[bonski]

God cant be prooven that is why religion needs faith. But tbh some of you religious people seem to have some serious mental problems.
Dont feel offended just visit a doctor from time to time lol 

Also time to unwatch this - that last god proof thread went 300 pages or something...

Don't worry we already experienced it many times to be called to have serious mental problems because of God. If you will call me to be crazy with God , then I'm to happy be called like that rather than to be with people doing worldly things and persecuting people that believe God.