Proof that God exists

[BADecker]

New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

Hey, thanks Moloch.

The point isn't about if evolution is a fact or not. Whatever the thing that evolution is, we can call it evolution or gobbledygook or anything else we want.

The important points about evolution are, where does it come from, and what is it, really.

Since the scientific law of cause and effect (which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law) shows that everything was caused to exist the way it does, evolution (whatever it is) has been pre-programmed to exist like it does. So, what's the big deal about evolution? Here is the big deal.

Whoever or Whatever programmed evolution to exist like it does, did a marvelous job of programming way back when. We can't come close to programming our computers so that thousands of years later they will still be running according to the programming.

Whatever evolution is, it's great programming. But there isn't any real random in it at all. The law of cause and effect eliminates the possibility of random.

Btw, I might get around to watching your video later.



EDIT; With regard to your video, consider the part about 35 through 45 seconds into this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10.

[BADecker]

New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

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Whatever evolution is, it's great programming.
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and you know this how? 

Please post the program or its algorithm.

PS. So mutations are programmed?  What is the algorithm?

The programming of so-called evolution is in the genetic code.

Mutations and other changes to the genetic code are caused by outside influences disrupting the genetic code.

Both, the genetic code and the outside influences are caused to exist in the way that they do because of causal actions of other genetic programming and outside influences. It's in cause and effect - upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Does you mommy still wipe your mouth when you are eating? How in the world do you even think enough to formulate questions?

[BADecker]

New video posted today, just for BADecker...

AronRa - Evolution is absolutely a Fact
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS62TkYOVGQ

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Whatever evolution is, it's great programming.
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and you know this how?  

Please post the program or its algorithm.

PS. So mutations are programmed?  What is the algorithm?

The programming of so-called evolution is in the genetic code.

Mutations and other changes to the genetic code are caused by outside influences disrupting the genetic code.

Both, the genetic code and the outside influences are caused to exist in the way that they do because of causal actions of other genetic programming and outside influences. It's in cause and effect - upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Does you mommy still wipe your mouth when you are eating? How in the world do you even think enough to formulate questions?

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

[BADecker]

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 

Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.

What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 

All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.

I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?

Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.

I can tell you were never in the military. In the military, especially in basic, they tell you what they are going to tell you. Then they tell it to you. Then they tell you that they told it to you. You forgot the part about that you were going to tell (ask) it to me before you actually said it.

Cause and effect is the programming in action. We know it by the fact that every effect has one or more causes, and those causes have causes, etc., back as far as we can imagine. We see no random operation involved in anything, and no source that we can put our finger on for the causation to exist at all. We can deduce, however, from the complexity of the cause and effect actions, that whatever started the cause and effect going, fits our definition of the complexity of "God."

[BADecker]

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 

Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.

What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 

All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.

So YOU don't know.  So stop talking about it as though it is a fact.

I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?

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Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.
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Just look up in your previous posts.  I even highlighted it in bold font before I replied to you.

See how dense you are? You don't even recognize the difference between cause and effect doing the programming, and cause and effect, itself, being programed.

 

[BADecker]

You are severely confused.  Genetic code is not programming for evolution.

You don't seem to understand what evolution is.

Stick with Bible.

No, it is you who are entirely confused. Scientists and geneticists will tell you right out that the genetic code is programming. Since all living things have it, it is programming for and within all evolution and mutations.

The evolution that you are talking about is genuine guesswork. Real evolution, whatever it is, has been programmed into existence, by cause and effect programming, just like the rest of the universe has. It (cause and effect) is scientific law in effect in abundance, all over the place, and nobody has been able to refute it in any factual way whatsoever.

Genetic code and evolution are two different things. 

Am I supposed to be thrilled that you understand this or something? All you have to do is look at the spelling of the words to see that they are different.

What is the "cause and effect programming"?  What is the algorithm for "cause and effect programming"?  I really would like to know. 

All you have to do is dig out a copy of Newton's 3rd Law, show it to a mathematician, and get him to write up the algorithm for you.

So YOU don't know.  So stop talking about it as though it is a fact.

I asked you for algorithms for evolution and "cause and effect" since you said you KNOW both were  "programmed" (by God I assume).  How do you know that?

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Well, I don't believe that I ever said that cause and effect have been programmed. But you might be right that even they are.
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Just look up in your previous posts.  I even highlighted it in bold font before I replied to you.

See how dense you are? You don't even recognize the difference between cause and effect doing the programming, and cause and effect, itself, being programed.

 

I'm here to expose your religious mambo jumbo.

So that's why you are having such a difficult time. You don't even recognize your own.

 

[blackbird307]

This is too much. People say one thing and you are saying another. Are you drunk Decker?

[Pulsarmaster]

Who know God .... can you ask him a question for me please?

[zerowing]

read The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins.

[designerusa]

read The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins.

i read the book which you have mentioned before.. yes, i guess he exactly proved god doesnt exist in this book.. everyone should read the book.. it will really change their mind over this subject..

[salinizm]

can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there?  yes.
thats it. similar thing is with god.. i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...

Yes, you can feel the air, and not only that, but you can prove it exists, you can even measure it.

But sometimes we can believe just because of feeling something .we dont need to any proof for that ...

[mainpmf]

can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there?  yes.
thats it. similar thing is with god.. i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...

Yes, you can feel the air, and not only that, but you can prove it exists, you can even measure it.

But sometimes we can believe just because of feeling something .we dont need to any proof for that ...

That is perfectly fine.  Billions of people believe in many religions based on feelings.

Just don't claim that your feeling is the proof of God existence.  Or say that your feeling is the truth.

That is the issue.

Well claim whatever you want it's not really important.

But don't act on the base of those beliefs. That's the most important!

Ideas beliefs aren't crucial.
Well they're crucial to you, but they won't impact society too much.
Whereas your actions will. Hence they must be measured by taking into account the fact that your truth isn't the absolute truth.

[BADecker]

can you see the air you breath? no. can you feel it? do you believe its there?  yes.
thats it. similar thing is with god.. i am not justifyimg a sinle religions god, because I don't want a single religion to be targeted...

Yes, you can feel the air, and not only that, but you can prove it exists, you can even measure it.

But sometimes we can believe just because of feeling something .we dont need to any proof for that ...

That is perfectly fine.  Billions of people believe in many religions based on feelings.

Just don't claim that your feeling is the proof of God existence.  Or say that your feeling is the truth.

That is the issue.

Exactly the point.

The law of cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law, says that you have been programmed to believe opposite of cause and effect.

The question is not about the fact that you have been programmed the way you have been.

The questions are about Who did your programming, and how it was done, and if it is being added to or rearranged in any way in some ongoing process.

Personally, I think the God is so extremely great, that when He hears the wishes of your heart (in the tiny speck of like-free-will that He has held open for you), He goes back in time to the beginning and jiggles the whole universe in ways that match your tiny speck of free will.

In addition, God is so great that He does this for all people at the same time. We don't do any of the free will acting that we think we do.

To our way of thinking, this is the only way cause and effect (proven law - Newton) can act with the free will of mankind.

An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

[BADecker]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

[mrflibblehat]

read The God Delusion book by Richard Dawkins.

i read the book which you have mentioned before.. yes, i guess he exactly proved god doesnt exist in this book.. everyone should read the book.. it will really change their mind over this subject..

I don't think it's such a good idea. Reading only informs you about how the world really is. And that would make you lose faith. Lol.

[mrflibblehat]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

I keep trying to stay calm, but things like this makes me want to kick your sorry ass. How the hell did mankind ask for death and disease? Are you really stupid? Or just trying to be cute!?

[BADecker]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

I keep trying to stay calm, but things like this makes me want to kick your sorry ass. How the hell did mankind ask for death and disease? Are you really stupid? Or just trying to be cute!?

Well, you notice that death doesn't just come flat-earth boom, just like that... not most of the time. Most of the time there is a little warning at least. That warning exists in the form of pain and trouble... like getting old.

God warned Adam and Eve that the day (the day of their whole life) that they ate of the fruit, they would surely die. So, by eating the fruit, Adam and Eve asked for it.

What about the rest of us? Well, a few of us express that we don't want the pain. We do it by committing a sudden suicide. Since you have not committed suicide yet, you are expressing that you would rather live with the pain... chicken.

How dumb are you that you can't even figure simple things like this out?

[mrflibblehat]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

I keep trying to stay calm, but things like this makes me want to kick your sorry ass. How the hell did mankind ask for death and disease? Are you really stupid? Or just trying to be cute!?

Well, you notice that death doesn't just come flat-earth boom, just like that... not most of the time. Most of the time there is a little warning at least. That warning exists in the form of pain and trouble... like getting old.

God warned Adam and Eve that the day (the day of their whole life) that they ate of the fruit, they would surely die. So, by eating the fruit, Adam and Eve asked for it.

What about the rest of us? Well, a few of us express that we don't want the pain. We do it by committing a sudden suicide. Since you have not committed suicide yet, you are expressing that you would rather live with the pain... chicken.

How dumb are you that you can't even figure simple things like this out?

How about you and Adam and Eve go and have some nice butt secs together? Then commit suicide. That way no one will believe you're a chicken. Or a dog. Well, maybe a pig.

[BADecker]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

I keep trying to stay calm, but things like this makes me want to kick your sorry ass. How the hell did mankind ask for death and disease? Are you really stupid? Or just trying to be cute!?

Well, you notice that death doesn't just come flat-earth boom, just like that... not most of the time. Most of the time there is a little warning at least. That warning exists in the form of pain and trouble... like getting old.

God warned Adam and Eve that the day (the day of their whole life) that they ate of the fruit, they would surely die. So, by eating the fruit, Adam and Eve asked for it.

What about the rest of us? Well, a few of us express that we don't want the pain. We do it by committing a sudden suicide. Since you have not committed suicide yet, you are expressing that you would rather live with the pain... chicken.

How dumb are you that you can't even figure simple things like this out?

How about you and Adam and Eve go and have some nice butt secs together? Then commit suicide. That way no one will believe you're a chicken. Or a dog. Well, maybe a pig.

Poor baby. It's so fun watching you squirm. 

Seriously, though. Almost nobody likes pain. Come and turn to God so that He will heal you in the afterlife, if not sooner.

[mrflibblehat]

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An important part of this point is, don't test God continually. He just might decide to direct cause and effect to give you permanent, locked-in, inability to believe in Him, simply because you have asked for it so many times. Perhaps He has done this already. Perhaps you have already destined yourself for Hell without any way out.

God does not exist.  He did not create me, he has no control over me or my life.

All these ideas about how God programmed everything are in your head and only in your head.

If there was a God, and he meticulously programmed everything in the universe, how come he created it so big with only few tiny corners of the universe suitable to support life.  Why so many stars, galaxies, empty space, universes?  Just create a flat Earth, support it with pillars, few humans and animals, put a dome over it, put stars and sun on the dome and be done with it (oh wait, that is exactly what the bible says). 

Why our jaws don't fit all of the teeth that we get.  What's up with the appendix?
Oh wait, they are the remnants of our evolutionary past....God my ass.

If he was an engineer, he would not even pass a phone interview 

Scientific law says that you are wrong. Check out cause and effect, as upheld by Newton's 3rd Law.

Then check out the first two chapters of the Bible to see how mankind asked for imperfection, and how God gave it to them. It was all done according to cause and effect.

I keep trying to stay calm, but things like this makes me want to kick your sorry ass. How the hell did mankind ask for death and disease? Are you really stupid? Or just trying to be cute!?

Well, you notice that death doesn't just come flat-earth boom, just like that... not most of the time. Most of the time there is a little warning at least. That warning exists in the form of pain and trouble... like getting old.

God warned Adam and Eve that the day (the day of their whole life) that they ate of the fruit, they would surely die. So, by eating the fruit, Adam and Eve asked for it.

What about the rest of us? Well, a few of us express that we don't want the pain. We do it by committing a sudden suicide. Since you have not committed suicide yet, you are expressing that you would rather live with the pain... chicken.

How dumb are you that you can't even figure simple things like this out?

How about you and Adam and Eve go and have some nice butt secs together? Then commit suicide. That way no one will believe you're a chicken. Or a dog. Well, maybe a pig.

Poor baby. It's so fun watching you squirm. 

Seriously, though. Almost nobody likes pain. Come and turn to God so that He will heal you in the afterlife, if not sooner.

Yeah, ok. I got it now. You're completely deluded. Thank you for playing. You're the weakest link.