Proof that God exists

[nostal02]

we have never heard about a home that was built without a builder or an invention without an inventor. SO the existence of the universe that we live in and all those creations that live in it is a proof that there is a creator who is God

Well i believe i was made by my parents, but believing that there a god i dont believe that.
A god was invented so there will be faith,faith will bring you strong mind in case that you are being held down by life.

[BADecker]

we have never heard about a home that was built without a builder or an invention without an inventor. SO the existence of the universe that we live in and all those creations that live in it is a proof that there is a creator who is God

and so with your argument god should also have a creator right? otherwise it would be double standard

Bear with me for a moment.

Let me show you part of the statements from a couple of websites. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe suggesting that our universe has only one electron that travels backward and forward in time to exist in all positions and locations that we consider to be many electrons:

The one-electron universe postulate, proposed by John Wheeler in a telephone call to Richard Feynman in the spring of 1940, states that all electrons and positrons are actually manifestations of a single entity moving backwards and forwards in time. According to Feynman:

I received a telephone call one day at the graduate college at Princeton from Professor Wheeler, in which he said, "Feynman, I know why all electrons have the same charge and the same mass" "Why?" "Because, they are all the same electron!"

Now look at someone who refutes the above, but has preposterous yet paramount sounding ideas of his own. From http://io9.gizmodo.com/5876966/what-if-every-electron-in-the-universe-was-all-the-same-exact-particle:

There's an idea that suggests all the universe's electrons are actually one particle forever traveling backwards and forwards in time. It's a simple, elegant idea that solves some of physics's biggest mysteries. There's only one tiny problem. It's complete nonsense.

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This isn't a trivial point, either. Not only is it impossible to tell electrons apart based on their physical properties, it's essentially impossible to tell them apart at all. This is because determining specific electrons by their position would require measuring their trajectories with exact precision, and the laws of quantum mechanics forbid this. Between measurements, electrons in the quantum world are probabilistic, defined by wave functions that give the odds of finding that particle in any given position. When the wave functions of multiple electrons overlap, it becomes officially impossible to determine which of the electrons was the one that was originally measured.

Thank you for reading the above, and maybe even going to the sites to read more. So, what's the point?

The point is that, since we can't even tell for sure about some of the reasons why the simple electron is or acts the way it is or does...

And since God through cause and effect pushed all the electrons into actions is some distant past, so that they produce the results that exist today...

How in the world are we going to determine any attributes about God? The answer is that we aren't, except if He tells us.

God is so far and great beyond us, that if He DID have a cause, or if He DIDN'T have a cause, it would be all the same to us. The thing that we would see about this is that there is nothing about God that we can determine, except vaguely, or a little more clearly when He tells us.

[BADecker]

we have never heard about a home that was built without a builder or an invention without an inventor. SO the existence of the universe that we live in and all those creations that live in it is a proof that there is a creator who is God

You assume that the world was created by God to prove that he exists.

Again, there is no assumption about God existing and setting things into place. Combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy proves this scientifically.

[BADecker]

Thank you for the exhortation.

Since science has proved that the God Who created the universe exists. I don't have to attempt to prove such at all.

Continue to show your ignorance if you like.

And how has science proved that god created the universe? Can you explain what existed pre-god, in that case? Feel free to prevent my "ignorance" from affecting your beliefs.

God is eternal, having no beginning or end. Ants in an ant farm terrarium might ask what created people. God is infinitely farther beyond us than we are beyond ants.

As far as how science has proved the existence of God, simply look through my posts in this thread and some of the related threads. Or go to my profile info and look at my posts there.

Actually, science did the opposite.  It reduced "God" to a bronze age myth. We evolved.  Nothing to to with God(s).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiPCKlNjX0

"We" maybe refers to you but sorry, not me.

Sometimes it is appropriate to refer to atheists as “descendants of the apes.” I’m sure all of them are highly honored by that title since they are the ones who claim that apes are their noble ancestors.This explains why atheists have devised the animalistic and heathenistic philosophy of atheism. It is because that is the best philosophy the ape’s descendants can come up with. That is as high as they can rise in their thinking. There has never been an ape during the history of apes that achieved the ability to perceive the existence of God and to worship Him. And so, it is not surprising that descendants of the apes are void of that ability as well.This also explains the awful heathen and abominable fruit descendants of apes produce in the society – why they are so lawless. It must have been a terrible group of apes they descended from, because when you observe apes that exist today, all of them do exactly what apes are suppose to do. But atheists cannot do anything right. Apes today are more civilized than atheists.
True christians have a far more noble fountain from whence they descended. We were originally created by the Almighty God – created in His image. We did not have to evolve to a higher state, but from the beginning, were created by God as perfect as humans can be. Even though we fell from our created state of perfection in the first man Adam, our Maker brings us back by His uplifting grace. But atheists, as descendants of the apes, have never and will never reached the level of perfection in which God originally created all mankind.
If atheists were human, and weren’t descendants of the apes, they might be able to perceive the beauty of the existence of God, and might have a chance at receiving God’s grace. But alas, animals don’t have that ability and God has no intention on saving animals.

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

[organofcorti]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

[BADecker]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

[organofcorti]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

Ah, so now it's *your* special scientific law that no one else knows about? Like all of your other proofs?

[tabas]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

Prove your complex universe base on organofcorti it is not a common scientific law, get your facts right before posting it dude

[Hirose UK]

the proofs of God's existence are you and all of this universe. if you still believe that everything exists instantly, I extremely stress here that you are totally wrong mate. because you didn't create your self, did you? or someone else created you? no, it was He, Allah.

just remember. one day you had a plan, but you couldn't run the plan, it means that there's God controled you, failed your plan. trust me mate, don't play with God, He exists, don't wait until you see Him, because if you are in the day of judgement, you will regret for not believing in He in the rest of your life

[BADecker]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

Prove your complex universe base on organofcorti it is not a common scientific law, get your facts right before posting it dude

Do I have a complex universe? I checked my pockets. I checked my closet. I looked under the bed. I even checked in the garage. I couldn't find any complex universe that I owned. Maybe it is based, as you say, on organofcorti. Perhaps you should ask organofcorti about my complex universe, since I can't seem to find it around here at all.

Did the law of gravity exist before Newton expressed it?

Ar you trying to tell me that the universe isn't complex, just because every last person on the planet doesn't express it? How in the world complex are you?

[Moloch]

Proof Leprechauns Are Real!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvN0ZUxx1zM

[popcorn1]

the proofs of God's existence are you and all of this universe. if you still believe that everything exists instantly, I extremely stress here that you are totally wrong mate. because you didn't create your self, did you? or someone else created you? no, it was He, Allah.

just remember. one day you had a plan, but you couldn't run the plan, it means that there's God controled you, failed your plan. trust me mate, don't play with God, He exists, don't wait until you see Him, because if you are in the day of judgement, you will regret for not believing in He in the rest of your life

Trust me mate don't play with the TRUMP because if you are in the day of judgement, you will regret for not believing in the TRUMP

[organofcorti]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

Prove your complex universe base on organofcorti it is not a common scientific law, get your facts right before posting it dude

Do I have a complex universe? I checked my pockets. I checked my closet. I looked under the bed. I even checked in the garage. I couldn't find any complex universe that I owned. Maybe it is based, as you say, on organofcorti. Perhaps you should ask organofcorti about my complex universe, since I can't seem to find it around here at all.

Did the law of gravity exist before Newton expressed it?

Ar you trying to tell me that the universe isn't complex, just because every last person on the planet doesn't express it? How in the world complex are you?

There is no "Complex universe" scientific law.

A list of commonly accepted scientific laws is in the wikipedia page I linked to earlier.

You stated that "Complex Universe" was  common scientific law. I provide evidence that it is not. Now (if you wish to discuss this further) you need to provide evidence that  "Complex Universe" is a widely accepted (common) scientific law.

[BADecker]

In addition, you can understand the scientific proof that God exists by combining cause and effect, complex universe, and universal entropy, all three, common scientific laws.

"Complex universe" is not a "Common scientific law". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_science

Of course complexity is a common scientific law.

For example, when Newton formulated the law of gravity - you know, when the apple fell off the tree and hit him in the head - was he the first person who ever noticed gravity? Of course not. Others noticed it long before he did, and would have formulated it if they had felt the need. Perhaps someone else did formulate it before Newton.

In the same way, complex universe is not only a common law, it is a common scientific law, because any scientist can easily devise statements showing how universal complexity is. Complexity might even be more fundamental to everyone than gravity is.

Complex universe is a scientific law, even though it may not have been formulated formally as such.

Prove your complex universe base on organofcorti it is not a common scientific law, get your facts right before posting it dude

Do I have a complex universe? I checked my pockets. I checked my closet. I looked under the bed. I even checked in the garage. I couldn't find any complex universe that I owned. Maybe it is based, as you say, on organofcorti. Perhaps you should ask organofcorti about my complex universe, since I can't seem to find it around here at all.

Did the law of gravity exist before Newton expressed it?

Ar you trying to tell me that the universe isn't complex, just because every last person on the planet doesn't express it? How in the world complex are you?

There is no "Complex universe" scientific law.

A list of commonly accepted scientific laws is in the wikipedia page I linked to earlier.

You stated that "Complex Universe" was  common scientific law. I provide evidence that it is not. Now (if you wish to discuss this further) you need to provide evidence that  "Complex Universe" is a widely accepted (common) scientific law.

Are there any unrecognized scientific laws? Does that make them not to be laws, simply because they  are not recognized or written about?

The scientific law of complex universe is all around us even if nobody formulated it as such. It is so basic that just stating it as such is essentially formulating it.

[Moloch]

Proof of Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMIVupV2wrc

[BADecker]

Proof of Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMIVupV2wrc

Something exists. It can be called anything. Calling it evolution doesn't make it fit evolution theory.

Cause and effect still proves pre-programming.

[organofcorti]

Great video of a typing robot that would be excellent for helping me respond to arguments in this thread:

https://twitter.com/SimoneGiertz/status/710123373850959872

[BADecker]

Great video of a typing robot that would be excellent for helping me respond to arguments in this thread:

https://twitter.com/SimoneGiertz/status/710123373850959872

You don't have to be like that. You are entirely welcome to get some loving structure in your life. Read the Bible New Testament to see how much God loves you, that He would send Jesus, His Son, into the world to take your mistakes away.

How much can it really hurt to do this? It might hurt your pride a little. There might be some kinds of honor that doing this might seem to tarnish. But really DO tarnish your honor in this short life a little. Why spend eternity in anguish, regretting that you did not turn?

 

[Moloch]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Religitard

Top Definition
Religitard
The term used to describe a religious-retard who is closed to the views and opinions of others, and who also voices their own opinions as fact; whilst commiting crimes against human intelligence in the name of religion.
( henke37 ) Im a christian through and through, god owns you.
( scenestar ) I concur henke37, god is indeed ownage.
( lolage ) Damn religitards.
( xenon ) Religitards make baby seals cry.



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religitard
A religious person, someone who does not know that the sole purpose of religion is to scam you out of your hard earned money in exchange for telling you whatever you want to hear about what will happen after you die.

The Catholic Church (as one example) has profited for nearly two millennia and continues to profit financially by making one feel guilty for ones biological urges and begging for any amount of money at every service they offer globally, even offering 'indulgences' in the middle ages, which amounted to being able to sin as long as you paid them for it afterward.

Is it pure coincidence that 'pray' and 'prey' are homonyms? How about 'prophet' and 'profit'?
(middle ages) peon: "Father I need forgiveness, last night I raped a 10 year old boy."

Priest: "Give me all your money and say two hail marys and you will be forgiven, my son."
peon: "I don't have any money."
Priest: "Give me all your livestock and say two hail marys."
peon: "But my family will starve to death."
Priest: "Then it's god's will. If you don't do this you'll roast in hell for all eternity!!1eleventeen"
--example of a religitard being taken advantage of by a priest

[sallymeeh27]

I have hear a video that I actually add up to my account which truly inspires me that truly proof that God exists. I didnt expect that really God can speak to anyone in a strange way and ask us to do something for him. I cried over this video because I believe so that he gaves us life to fully treasure and be thankful..

https://vimeo.com/18019701