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February 12, 2016, 01:11:50 AM
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This is the debate topic.  Is Islam a Religion of Peace?  I am not starting a poll, because I want the matter determined by clear logic, not by numbers.  And not by quotes of old books. 

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA
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February 12, 2016, 02:21:14 AM
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This is the debate topic.  Is Islam a Religion of Peace?  I am not starting a poll, because I want the matter determined by clear logic, not by numbers.  And not by quotes of old books. 

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA

I'm not sure what you want to debate here.  It is rather obvious.

To anyone who says it is a religion of peace, just draw a drawing of a prophet Mohammed raping a 9 year child. See what happens next.

Islam is a religion of piece, piece of you here and another piece over there.

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February 12, 2016, 03:00:22 AM
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This is the debate topic.  Is Islam a Religion of Peace?  I am not starting a poll, because I want the matter determined by clear logic, not by numbers.  And not by quotes of old books. 

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA

I'm not sure what you want to debate here.  It is rather obvious.

To anyone who says it is a religion of peace, just draw a drawing of a prophet Mohammed raping a 9 year child. See what happens next.

Islam is a religion of piece, piece of you here and another piece over there.



LOL, yeah.

But Muslims insist, over and over, that Islam is peace.  Granted, that's like a religious mantra, which may be true only in certain places or times.  But that's what they say. 

How can these opposite extremes of viewpoints be reconciled, or understood?
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February 12, 2016, 04:00:45 AM
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Religion is one variable, the Arab mindset is another.  It is fair to say that Arabs influence the Islam doctrine, and that spreads elsewhere.

Listen to this Arab guy.  Not all of them are stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZZMXV_PRXk

The culture makes it hard to allow for any progress.

And the culture that desperately needs Western values is rejecting those values in the name of the religion.

They suffer from some sort of post-colonial trauma.

I worked with many Arab Muslims.  They are open minded and can discuss and debate everything with you, EXCEPT their religion.

Arab culture needs reformation.  Problem they have is that Islam is not just a religion.  It is a legal and political framework.
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February 12, 2016, 06:41:11 AM
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Yes it is, the same with christianity and other religions, what matters is how the people help each other and depends on individual perspectives.
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February 12, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
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This is the debate topic.  Is Islam a Religion of Peace?  I am not starting a poll, because I want the matter determined by clear logic, not by numbers.  And not by quotes of old books. 

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA
i am sure all religion in this world is belong to their god and love peace,some people who do anarcy or terrorist just lost their mind to make peace on this wolrd,they potion by evil in their heart.
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February 12, 2016, 09:26:07 AM
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Yes it is, the same with christianity and other religions, what matters is how the people help each other and depends on individual perspectives.

Please stay on topic.  Christianity and other religions that is all other topic all together.

Pay attention.  We don't need diversions.

Post why do you think Islam is (or not) a religion of peace.

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February 12, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
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it is not peaceful and can never be made peaceful, the koran is god's final revelation to mankind and nothing in islam is allowed to be changed or modernised. when moderate muslim leaders try and bring progress to their countries for example afghanistan, iraq, libya, syria, they are taken down by traditionalists.

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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February 12, 2016, 11:43:59 AM
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February 12, 2016, 11:48:25 AM
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I think it is.. I'm sure it is. Every religion ought to be. Every God ideation ought to be peaceful. Perhaps it's how other Muslims live it out or the way other people sees Islam that makes the picture of peace in Islam obscured.
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February 12, 2016, 12:20:29 PM
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This is the debate topic.  Is Islam a Religion of Peace?  I am not starting a poll, because I want the matter determined by clear logic, not by numbers.  And not by quotes of old books. 

Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee8f8nWVWZA

The answer is rather obvious.

No religion never ever is a religion of peace. They all explain how you must kill/murder/destroy anyone not of your religion ^^


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February 12, 2016, 12:21:43 PM
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it is not peaceful and can never be made peaceful, the koran is god's final revelation to mankind and nothing in islam is allowed to be changed or modernised. when moderate muslim leaders try and bring progress to their countries for example afghanistan, iraq, libya, syria, they are taken down by traditionalists.

And so were Christians 700 years ago...

Again just a question of maturation, so your "can never be made peaceful" is irrelevant.

Christianity was finally transformed, but it took 1700 years to do so.


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February 12, 2016, 01:31:01 PM
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Yes it is, the same with christianity and other religions, what matters is how the people help each other and depends on individual perspectives.

Please stay on topic.  Christianity and other religions that is all other topic all together.

Pay attention.  We don't need diversions.

Post why do you think Islam is (or not) a religion of peace.


Thanks.  I agree.  This alone is a very interesting subject because of the huge apparent gap between the repeated claims of "Islam is peace" and the reality.
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February 12, 2016, 01:39:52 PM
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Yes it is, the same with christianity and other religions, what matters is how the people help each other and depends on individual perspectives.

Please stay on topic.  Christianity and other religions that is all other topic all together.

Pay attention.  We don't need diversions.

Post why do you think Islam is (or not) a religion of peace.


Thanks.  I agree.  This alone is a very interesting subject because of the huge apparent gap between the repeated claims of "Islam is peace" and the reality.

People claiming "Islam is Peace" are probably good people so bad islamists ^^

Most people saying that religion is tolerant and peaceful (whatever the religion) are per se bad religious people! Because sacred texts are always extremely violent!!!


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February 12, 2016, 03:50:25 PM
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In my opinion, all religions are religions of peace.
If you read holy books from different religions, you will see that 90 % content is about God, faith, love etc.
We have problem because some religious people abuse the sacred books and religions for their own purposes.
It's wrong and they shouldn't do it.
Through religion we should learn about love and peace, not hate and war.
So, yes, Islam is a religion of peace but not all Muslims are man of peace.














 

 

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February 12, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
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In my opinion, all religions are religions of peace.....

Prove it.  Some religions actually are religions of peace, such as the Christian Quaker sect.  Others are not the same.

It is a logical error to claim they are the same, is it not?  And we know that different sects of Islam teach wildly different behavior.  Again, they are not the same.
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February 12, 2016, 03:58:29 PM
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In the past few weeks, both Russia and the United States have escalated their military campaigns against the Islamic State. As the brutal jihadist group continues to wreak havoc in Syria and Iraq, Foreign Policy’s Peace Channel, a partnership with the United States Institute of Peace, asked United States Institute of Peace acting Vice President Manal Omar, one of the foremost voices on peace and Islam, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali, author of Heretic: Why Islam Needs a Reformation Now, to debate what is behind this newest breed of extremism, and how can it be defeated. In the age of al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and Boko Haram, is there a link between the violence these groups perpetrate and the faith they profess?

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February 12, 2016, 03:58:49 PM
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And so were Christians 700 years ago...

Again just a question of maturation, so your "can never be made peaceful" is irrelevant.

Christianity was finally transformed, but it took 1700 years to do so.
you don't understand the meaning of "god's final revelation" do you. the koran has primacy over everything that came before and everything that will come after and we know this because it tells us in no uncertain terms.

Be radical, have principles, be absolute, be that which the bourgeoisie calls an extremist: give yourself without counting or calculating, don't accept what they call ‘the reality of life' and act in such a way that you won't be accepted by that kind of ‘life', never abandon the principle of struggle.
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February 12, 2016, 04:36:05 PM
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In my opinion, all religions are religions of peace.....

Prove it.  Some religions actually are religions of peace, such as the Christian Quaker sect.  Others are not the same.

It is a logical error to claim they are the same, is it not?  And we know that different sects of Islam teach wildly different behavior.  Again, they are not the same.

Here is my proof:
http://www.worldprayerfoundation.com/resources/World%20Scriptures.pdf
Read it and you will understand my opinion that all religions are religions of peace.














 

 

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February 12, 2016, 05:56:44 PM
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In my opinion, all religions are religions of peace.....

Prove it.  Some religions actually are religions of peace, such as the Christian Quaker sect.  Others are not the same.

It is a logical error to claim they are the same, is it not?  And we know that different sects of Islam teach wildly different behavior.  Again, they are not the same.

Here is my proof:
http://www.worldprayerfoundation.com/resources/World%20Scriptures.pdf
Read it and you will understand my opinion that all religions are religions of peace.

I am descended from practitioners of a religion that does not exist today, but those practitioners engaged in human sacrifice.  Therefore you are wrong. 

Perhaps what you mean to say is that "The religions left existing today, after we exterminated the other ones, all profess to be peaceful religions?"

But that is in itself an admission of religions being violent.

This may be of interest -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_violence
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