[ANN] Terracoin (TRC) - Est 2012

[hanzac]

If so, maybe we need several permanent seed dns servers and hard code.

I agree that we need several permanent seed nodes.  Ahmed (mrbodz) has been very generous by hosting the seed nodes for a while.  I do have a really old server that can host a permanent node, but my internet prevents me from having a static IP.  I would have to have a redirect which isn't the best option.

Mrbodz did suggest that we (The Terracoin Foundation) pay for a cloud server to cover such issues and he was willing to implement other features if we did.  Obviously for a price.

The community needs to raise bitcoins for this.  I may run The Terracoin Foundation, but nothing can be done without the help of the community.

One of the reasons I took control of Terracoin was because I saw too many coins being controlled by just one person.  I think that the community can work together to make a coin for the whole world.  When we finally construct the coin that we want it will pay off in the end.  Wow, I got a little preachy there.  I guess I just think that there is a coin that can replace fiat and bitcoin and it is Terracoin.  We have all been working together for a long while now, so...Damn.  Preachy again.

We can put the seed addresses (these addresses can be the pools/explorers/exchanges running server) in json file or xml file and serve the file in the website (e.g. terracoin.info). This is the cheapest way.

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[midnight_miner]

If terracoin irc channel is working fine, every new TRC client can get the recent nodes from there.
BTW, maybe we need to enhance the p2p connection management, so that it will be intelligent enough to find peers automatically.

Terracoin IRC channel?  What are you talking about?  I thought all cryptocurrencies have moved away from IRC for security reasons.  Sorry for my ignorance.

How do we enhance the p2p connection management?

Lastly, I was wondering about adding SEGWIT to Terracoin.  What does everyone else think about that?

The IRC channel was deprecated from core 0.9.x on, if I remember right.

When I get some time I will put up a block explorer for TerraCoin and you can use it as a seed node.

[clockuniverse]

Consider this case:
Alice has to pay Bob for an item.
But Bob receives a lot of payments.
So there are risks of misidentification.
And moreover the transactions are publicly visible, so someone else (in case of a kind of a middleman attack) can see the transaction and pretend that the payment was made by him.
So if some information is being attached directly to the transaction, for instance the address where to send the item or some identification code, the problem of the identification is solved.
It would be even more useful in case in which the payment is automatically elaborated without Bob control.
Of course the information attached has to be encrypted, because Alice may not want everybody to see her address, for instance.
Maybe there are other ways to solve this question. I'd be happy to receive suggestions.

By the way I think that SEGWIT is useful, AFAIU it reduces the blockchain and speeds up the transactions.

Anonymous transactions would help with this a lot.  The issue we have is that Terracoin is based on Bitcoin so our options are limited with how we implement anonymous transactions.  Monero has something that is almost exactly what you are talking about, but we can't just add it to Terracoin.  It would mean redesigning Terracoin from scratch which would mean creating a new coin.  I am not sure if we can implement ShadowCoins code, but their changes look pretty amazing and promising.  Here is the thread I started asking about similar stuff where some people posted some good links.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1758449.msg17560380#msg17560380

I think we should start discussing ways to create a new way to solve the exact problem you are talking about.  We would need experienced anonymous developers to join the discussion and the team to make this happen.

Obviously I still think TRC is the best coin, and has the best future because we are willing to adapt.  We just need the team to implement it!

I also think adding a way to send and receive both plain text and encrypted messages in the block chain would be an amazing add for the coin.

Code:

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Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x1] Library missing

Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries

Dyld Error Message:
  Library not loaded: @loader_path/libboost_system-mt.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/test_user/Desktop/TerraCoin-Qt.app/Contents/Frameworks/libboost_thread-mt.dylib
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Thanks!  I emailed BVBcoin!

The problem is that Alice want to be anonymous. I think Alice can send some signed message to Bob before the transaction begin, to specify her bitcoin/altcoin address and other things. Then Bob will know how to deal with the transaction.
I think this is related to the protocol they do business, not with bitcoin or terracoin.
No matter what if two strangers do business, it's always unsafe. That's why we need a trusted person to be the middle man.

This is also true even in regards to anonymous transactions, which is why Coinpayments is an important step.

We can put the seed addresses (these addresses can be the pools/explorers/exchanges running server) in json file or xml file and serve the file in the website (e.g. terracoin.info). This is the cheapest way.

How do we do this?  PM me, or post on here.  Thanks!

The IRC channel was deprecated from core 0.9.x on, if I remember right.

When I get some time I will put up a block explorer for TerraCoin and you can use it as a seed node.

Thanks, mate!  PM me if you need anything!

[BVBCoin]

Code:

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Identifier:            org.bitcoinfoundation.Bitcoin-Qt
Version:               0.9.12 (0.9.12)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           Bitcoin-Qt [86565]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2017-02-18 11:45:27.172 -0500
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Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        9E381006-8133-0B73-0657-486EB250873C

Sleep/Wake UUID:       FD33930D-FCC8-4C22-AE62-F5363C62231E

Time Awake Since Boot: 3800000 seconds
Time Since Wake:       53000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0

Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x1] Library missing

Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries

Dyld Error Message:
  Library not loaded: @loader_path/libboost_system-mt.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/test_user/Desktop/TerraCoin-Qt.app/Contents/Frameworks/libboost_thread-mt.dylib
  Reason: image not found

curios... it seems, you've got the old version of the wallet.
I have compiled uploaded again...
172.245.173.240:8080/TerracoinV1.1-Qt.dmg

[DigitalCurrencyConsultant]

Is this a POW with a hardcap on the coins?

Could the foundation get a Translation for India, Russian, Chinese, Japan and Spanish?

Thanks

[clockuniverse]

Is this a POW with a hardcap on the coins?

Could the foundation get a Translation for India, Chinese, Japan and Spanish?

Thanks

It is a POW coin with a hard cap of 42 million coins.

We have a Filipino page, and we are always looking for volunteers to translated the ANN into other languages.  Send volunteer translators our way if you know of any.  Thanks!

[clockuniverse]

I have an extra Guns of Icarus (video game) Steam key if any active member of this thread wants it.  I thought I would offer it up to all of my friends here first.  You have to be an active member of this thread, and I am not sure if it will work outside of the US.

The first active member of this thread to post on this thread gets it, and I will PM you the key.

Thanks for all the hard work everyone has put into Terracoin and keep posting the hard questions!  Thanks!

[hanzac]

We can put the seed addresses (these addresses can be the pools/explorers/exchanges running server) in json file or xml file and serve the file in the website (e.g. terracoin.info). This is the cheapest way.

How do we do this?  PM me, or post on here.  Thanks!

Just modify the code in chainparams.cpp with something like:

vSeeds = loadJson("http://terracoin.info/dnsseeds.json")
vFixedSeeds = loadJson("http://terracoin.info/fixedseeds.json")

To be better, make these url as configurable parameters, then people can point the seeds file to any updated location.

[clockuniverse]

Just modify the code in chainparams.cpp with something like:

vSeeds = loadJson("http://terracoin.info/dnsseeds.json")
vFixedSeeds = loadJson("http://terracoin.info/fixedseeds.json")

To be better, make these url as configurable parameters, then people can point the seeds file to any updated location.

I have added a new issue to github about this for our next release.  Thanks for the help!

[clockuniverse]

Hippocrypto, our ANN designer, has started a new crypto info site!

Here is his Terracoin info link.  http://www.cryptodetails.com/terracoin.php

He has info on a lot of coins, so make sure to check out his home page.  http://www.cryptodetails.com/

[tt_afr]

Code:

Process:               Bitcoin-Qt [86565]
Path:                  /Users/USER/Desktop/TerraCoin-Qt.app/Contents/MacOS/Bitcoin-Qt
Identifier:            org.bitcoinfoundation.Bitcoin-Qt
Version:               0.9.12 (0.9.12)
Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:        ??? [1]
Responsible:           Bitcoin-Qt [86565]
User ID:               501

Date/Time:             2017-02-18 11:45:27.172 -0500
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Report Version:        12
Anonymous UUID:        9E381006-8133-0B73-0657-486EB250873C

Sleep/Wake UUID:       FD33930D-FCC8-4C22-AE62-F5363C62231E

Time Awake Since Boot: 3800000 seconds
Time Since Wake:       53000 seconds

System Integrity Protection: enabled

Crashed Thread:        0

Exception Type:        EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes:       0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

Termination Reason:    DYLD, [0x1] Library missing

Application Specific Information:
dyld: launch, loading dependent libraries

Dyld Error Message:
  Library not loaded: @loader_path/libboost_system-mt.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/test_user/Desktop/TerraCoin-Qt.app/Contents/Frameworks/libboost_thread-mt.dylib
  Reason: image not found

curios... it seems, you've got the old version of the wallet.
I have compiled uploaded again...
172.245.173.240:8080/TerracoinV1.1-Qt.dmg

Hard drive crash. Macbook dead. New HDD OTW. I'll try before Wednesday.

[clockuniverse]

Hard drive crash. Macbook dead. New HDD OTW. I'll try before Wednesday.

Damn.  That sucks.

Thanks!

[phatkiller]

As far as nodes check out https://bitnodes.net they offer 3 nodes for $99/year.  There are a few other node hosting services on here too you can search for.  I'd say at least 5-8 permanent seed nodes some in your control some out of your control.

Seg-wit I've looked around read a few articles and dont see why not to do it, Block capacity/size increase, Malleability Fixes among other things you can check out at https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/.  and http://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup

Also read this article https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-segwit-privacy-trace-mayer/ where they imply that segwit could make it easier to implement anonymous transactions to the current code.

The only thing i'll say if you do choose to go segwit route, force it Hardfork it in, DONT softfork and DONT wait till everyone upgrades.  Leaving it up to the miners has delayed its adoption in Bitcoin and Litecoin.  I dont think any other coin has adpoted it please link if you have found one.

Something i would love to see on the ANN and Website is a detailed list of things the foundation wants to purchase i.e. nodes, Android wallet, site layout etc and their prices, how much the foundation currently has and how much it needs to complete these purchases. Also precompiled binaries for linux would be so great.

[clockuniverse]

As far as nodes check out https://bitnodes.net they offer 3 nodes for $99/year.  There are a few other node hosting services on here too you can search for.  I'd say at least 5-8 permanent seed nodes some in your control some out of your control.

Seg-wit I've looked around read a few articles and dont see why not to do it, Block capacity/size increase, Malleability Fixes among other things you can check out at https://bitcoincore.org/en/2016/01/26/segwit-benefits/.  and http://achow101.com/2016/04/Segwit-FUD-Clearup

Also read this article https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-segwit-privacy-trace-mayer/ where they imply that segwit could make it easier to implement anonymous transactions to the current code.

The only thing i'll say if you do choose to go segwit route, force it Hardfork it in, DONT softfork and DONT wait till everyone upgrades.  Leaving it up to the miners has delayed its adoption in Bitcoin and Litecoin.  I dont think any other coin has adpoted it please link if you have found one.

Something i would love to see on the ANN and Website is a detailed list of things the foundation wants to purchase i.e. nodes, Android wallet, site layout etc and their prices, how much the foundation currently has and how much it needs to complete these purchases. Also precompiled binaries for linux would be so great.

Thanks for the input!

I really like the idea of having a list of what we want to spend BTC on vs what we have (currently zero donated to the general BTC donations address.)

I am surprised about the pre-compiled Linux though.  I heard that was a no no and to never do that.

@crackfoo (zpool) what do you think about segwit?  Zpool is our official mining pool so I am curious what he thinks about it.

[mrbodz]

it typically is a no no. i've helped to implement segwit in vertcoin. When we're ready it'll be deployed as a soft fork though

Ahmed

[johnwhitestar]

It's not that difficult to compile the TRC qt-wallet for linux.
For instance I found useful this reference on how to compile it for Archlinux: http://labufalissima.com/how-compile-terracoin-wallet-archlinux

Also precompiled binaries for linux would be so great.

[phatkiller]

It's not that difficult to compile the TRC qt-wallet for linux.
For instance I found useful this reference on how to compile it for Archlinux: http://labufalissima.com/how-compile-terracoin-wallet-archlinux

I am surprised about the pre-compiled Linux though.  I heard that was a no no and to never do that.

it typically is a no no. i've helped to implement segwit in vertcoin. When we're ready it'll be deployed as a soft fork though

Ahmed

I agree typically it isn't done but some coins do offer them Dash, Nubits, etc.. It just makes it easy to get a node up quickly. 

I am able to compile my own but am unable to make it STATIC and get "error while loading shared libraries" when i run it on another linux pc

[johnwhitestar]

I am able to compile my own but am unable to make it STATIC and get "error while loading shared libraries" when i run it on another linux pc

Maybe on the other linux you don't have all the dependencies installed or they are not updated or the libraries are in different places.

Have tried ldconfig command?

[clockuniverse]

It's not that difficult to compile the TRC qt-wallet for linux.
For instance I found useful this reference on how to compile it for Archlinux: http://labufalissima.com/how-compile-terracoin-wallet-archlinux

I am surprised about the pre-compiled Linux though.  I heard that was a no no and to never do that.

it typically is a no no. i've helped to implement segwit in vertcoin. When we're ready it'll be deployed as a soft fork though

Ahmed

I agree typically it isn't done but some coins do offer them Dash, Nubits, etc.. It just makes it easy to get a node up quickly. 

I am able to compile my own but am unable to make it STATIC and get "error while loading shared libraries" when i run it on another linux pc

I will see if I can get one compiled this weekend.  I also want to update the OP and the website this weekend, but I am not sure I will have time.  My work is killing me.

[clockuniverse]

So Crackfoo got back to me about segwit and he said his mining pool doesn't support it and he doesn't see any features that interest him.

Since zpool is our largest pool right now lets put segwit on the back burner until a later date.

Any other features that people are interested in discussing?

EDIT: Coinpayments

I also just checked my coinpayments balance and it looks like three different people tried to send $5 USD worth of BTC donations and their transactions timed out.  I looked into the support and if the transactions take too long then the money is refunded via an email link.  Now that some BTC transactions can take 12+ hours I am not surprised this happened.

Has anyone experienced the other side of this?

EDIT 2: BTC transaction times

This is why TRC is better then BTC! BTC transaction times are unbearable. We should also implement the larger block sizes in the next update, unless someone has a good reason not to do this.

Thanks!!