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May 29, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
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This is a pool address, thats it... So no need for FUD again...

Just keep your blinkers on while the next attack is going on with full steam ......
FUD, lol, it's a real attack just going on and going on with millions of XVG lost .......
Call it FUD or whatever you want, the attack is ongoing, no matter if you call it FUD, FOMO, or hate ... it just doesn't matter....

Sorry if i have disrupted your sweet XVG dreaming on the Verge cloud ....
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May 29, 2018, 01:56:49 PM
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This is a pool address, thats it... So no need for FUD again...

Just keep your blinkers on while the next attack is going on with full steam ......
FUD, lol, it's a real attack just going on and going on with millions of XVG lost .......
Call it FUD or whatever you want, the attack is ongoing, no matter if you call it FUD, FOMO, or hate ... it just doesn't matter....

Sorry if i have disrupted your sweet XVG dreaming on the Verge cloud ....


Yes. How can people still be defending XVG when the code has been repeatedly found to be crap and subject to attacks like this. This coins simply needs to go away forever.

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This is a pool address, thats it... So no need for FUD again...

Just keep your blinkers on while the next attack is going on with full steam ......
FUD, lol, it's a real attack just going on and going on with millions of XVG lost .......
Call it FUD or whatever you want, the attack is ongoing, no matter if you call it FUD, FOMO, or hate ... it just doesn't matter....

Sorry if i have disrupted your sweet XVG dreaming on the Verge cloud ....


So far, there is no drop in difficulty and i cant see any insta mined blocks...

XVG pools on suprnova are running. So i am a bit confused about that post from ocminer, but can not see any signs for an ongoing hack right now.

But i have no problem to say, that my technical ability is not enough to be sure about that.

But the most important question for me is the following. You are hating and FUDing about Verge for weeks or maybe even months now. We all know you hate Verge (for whatever reason). And hey, it is ok for me. I only hope you know why you hate it. But, why dont you make anything else with your time? I think you sold all your Verge, so why are you here every day? It looks like you are sitting in front of your pc 24/7, just waiting for any possibility to announce bad news about Verge. That seems very pathological to me...

I am completely serious when asking you that. I would be very interested in finding out, why someone is spending so much time in a thing, he dont like... I cant understand that...

Maybe there is a reason for that BTX-Footer-Spammers, they use every possibility to spread their links. But you dont even have a Footer... So i really have no idea... Did you really lose so much money and want to take revenge now? In the end, even that would be kind of pathological... But hey, i am just trying to understand it...

And at least one more time for you. I am invested in Verge with a very small amount, that i did not even buy, but mined it last year. To give you some numbers, i own about 30.000 XVG and this is about 1% of the money i have invested in crypto right now. I am not "dreaming on the Verge cloud" or whatever. But meanwhile, i really think, that there are a lot of people in this thread, and even worse in the "XVG-Attack"-thread, that strongly need some medical care...
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May 29, 2018, 02:26:39 PM
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But the most important question for me is the following. You are hating and FUDing about Verge for weeks or maybe even months now. We all know you hate Verge (for whatever reason). And hey, it is ok for me. I only hope you know why you hate it. But, why dont you make anything else with your time? I think you sold all your Verge, so why are you here every day? It looks like you are sitting in front of your pc 24/7, just waiting for any possibility to announce bad news about Verge. That seems very pathological to me...

I am completely serious when asking you that. I would be very interested in finding out, why someone is spending so much time in a thing, he dont like... I cant understand that...

Maybe there is a reason for that BTX-Footer-Spammers, they use every possibility to spread their links. But you dont even have a Footer... So i really have no idea... Did you really lose so much money and want to take revenge now? In the end, even that would be kind of pathological... But hey, i am just trying to understand it...

And at least one more time for you. I am invested in Verge with a very small amount, that i did not even buy, but mined it last year. I am not "dreaming on the Verge cloud" or whatever. But meanwhile, i really think, that there are a lot of people in this thread, and even worse in the "XVG-Attack"-thread, that strongly need some medical care...

I guess they lost money or they didn't get the profit they were hoping for and all they can do is rage on this thread! Grin

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May 29, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
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But the most important question for me is the following. You are hating and FUDing about Verge for weeks or maybe even months now. We all know you hate Verge (for whatever reason). And hey, it is ok for me. I only hope you know why you hate it. But, why dont you make anything else with your time? I think you sold all your Verge, so why are you here every day? It looks like you are sitting in front of your pc 24/7, just waiting for any possibility to announce bad news about Verge. That seems very pathological to me...

I am completely serious when asking you that. I would be very interested in finding out, why someone is spending so much time in a thing, he dont like... I cant understand that...

Maybe there is a reason for that BTX-Footer-Spammers, they use every possibility to spread their links. But you dont even have a Footer... So i really have no idea... Did you really lose so much money and want to take revenge now? In the end, even that would be kind of pathological... But hey, i am just trying to understand it...

And at least one more time for you. I am invested in Verge with a very small amount, that i did not even buy, but mined it last year. I am not "dreaming on the Verge cloud" or whatever. But meanwhile, i really think, that there are a lot of people in this thread, and even worse in the "XVG-Attack"-thread, that strongly need some medical care...

I guess they lost money or they didn't get the profit they were hoping for and all they can do is rage on this thread! Grin

That is my guess too, but if this is going to assume such alarming proportions, these guys should see a doctor...

And if i say that, i really dont want to insult anyone. I am serious with that and i just want to help...
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May 29, 2018, 02:30:08 PM
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we're averaging 102 blocks per hour, of out a 120 blocks allowed. seems fine to me. i saw a low difficulty for lyra2 for a bit, but the attack would require a higher drift time to allow instamined blocks to be inserted, which isnt possible anymore.

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May 29, 2018, 03:24:50 PM
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So far, there is no drop in difficulty and i cant see any insta mined blocks...

Seems you missed the 300 difficulty on lyra2r2 .......


XVG pools on suprnova are running. So i am a bit confused about that post from ocminer, but can not see any signs for an ongoing hack right now.
But i have no problem to say, that my technical ability is not enough to be sure about that.

Mine too, but i believe ocminer that pointed out so far ALL attacks on verge and has forseen that none of the fixes will fix the issues....
You are free to believe whomever, as i'am. No problem for me if you believe in DDos attacks, in everything normal, while one of the most experienced programmers on this forum says other.....

But the most important question for me is the following. You are hating and FUDing about Verge for weeks or maybe even months now. We all know you hate Verge (for whatever reason). And hey, it is ok for me. I only hope you know why you hate it. But, why dont you make anything else with your time? I think you sold all your Verge, so why are you here every day? It looks like you are sitting in front of your pc 24/7, just waiting for any possibility to announce bad news about Verge. That seems very pathological to me...

That's the problem of most people in crypto, they see everything true pink glasses with blinkers on... There is no hate needed to point to serious real issues that have to be adressed, hence my comment for disrupting your dream on verge cloud. No matter if you want to hear it or not, these are serious issues, not only for the Verge community but for the whole crypto community as it's feed for all anti-crypto supporters to point with a finger on hacks, fraud, scams, bugs, you name it.....

And actually, even if i do not hold anymore more XVG than 1.000 at most, i'am still mining it as long as it's profitable on some algos, so i have some personal interest as well. And last but not least, i was a believer in this project for a long time, but the last months just hit the bottom of bad business doing with a such promising project than back. But that's just my opinion, everybody has it's right to have it's own, right?

And last but not least, i'am on a forum, i'am not posting/writing in any of the pure XVG channels, no need for that indeed.

I am completely serious when asking you that. I would be very interested in finding out, why someone is spending so much time in a thing, he dont like... I cant understand that...

Maybe there is a reason for that BTX-Footer-Spammers, they use every possibility to spread their links. But you dont even have a Footer... So i really have no idea... Did you really lose so much money and want to take revenge now? In the end, even that would be kind of pathological... But hey, i am just trying to understand it...

That's the reason i have no footer, i don't like these banner posts as well as as they take away some seriosness in my opinion, but than again, everybody decides his own what to put into his footer.
And i said it allready, i didn't lose any moeny, i'am perfect. Go the pages back when price was at it's peak and you will see my post where i sold with perfect profit. If that's not enough i can send you some binance screenshots, lol, no problem either if you are that curious how some have been able to sell with perfect profit at a nearly perfect moment.  Grin

And at least one more time for you. I am invested in Verge with a very small amount, that i did not even buy, but mined it last year. To give you some numbers, i own about 30.000 XVG and this is about 1% of the money i have invested in crypto right now. I am not "dreaming on the Verge cloud" or whatever. But meanwhile, i really think, that there are a lot of people in this thread, and even worse in the "XVG-Attack"-thread, that strongly need some medical care...

The pink glasses again dude. You should be thankfull to many of the guys in the XVG Attack thread. They pointed out each time first on ongoing attacks, first mentioned that the accidentially fork was bad and which was removed than, first said that the fixes aren't fixes and whatever not.... If everything was that perfect at Verge this XVG Attack thread wouldn't excist and if everything was fixed so far it would have been died long time ago, but it didn't, think about it ......

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P.S.: I'am not sitting 24 hours in front of my pc, but i manage my business from the pc and i get notifications on interesting topics i follow. And while others are busy whole day with reddit, twitter, discord, whatever, i spend only about 30 minutes per day writting here. ;-) So much about wrong assumptions, not that it matters at all.
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May 29, 2018, 03:47:51 PM
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Seems you missed the 300 difficulty on lyra2r2 .......

but no blocks got inserted, and we are still producing less blocks than allowed. (right now 103/120 per hour)


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Looking good for me, nothing exceeded max.

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May 29, 2018, 04:16:30 PM
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i m looking for to huge gains from this investment. XVG has indeed show good prospects. After shilling by various groups Verge went up and down! Now people have realized the potential of verge and its soon mooning!

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May 29, 2018, 04:53:20 PM
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we assume that all xvg's are hacked, max 1,5 billion xvg can be hacked.. max supply is 16,5 billion

1,5/16,5 =%10   price can be %10  dump.    but now price %50 down  whyyyy?

I guess if the devs won't rollback immediately in order to deprive the hackers from their dirty money, the users have to bring it down in order to at least mitigate how much richers the thieves will get.
Not that rolling back a blockchain is a good solution... the team had to choose between two evils.

Rolling back a blockchain can have very negative repercussions. When Ethereum did that the outcome wasn't too bad, but too good either. It can damage the trust in the censorship-resistance of a network.

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Mine too, but i believe ocminer that pointed out so far ALL attacks on verge and has forseen that none of the fixes will fix the issues....
You are free to believe whomever, as i'am. No problem for me if you believe in DDos attacks, in everything normal, while one of the most experienced programmers on this forum says other.....


I respect OCMiner very much, and i am thankfull for everxthing he did. Maybe aside from one time, when the discussion with Justin was a bit overheated, his posts usually are factual  and so they help. In opposite to the posts of 99% of the haters and FUDers, yours included.


That's the problem of most people in crypto, they see everything true pink glasses with blinkers on... There is no hate needed to point to serious real issues that have to be adressed, hence my comment for disrupting your dream on verge cloud. No matter if you want to hear it or not, these are serious issues, not only for the Verge community but for the whole crypto community as it's feed for all anti-crypto supporters to point with a finger on hacks, fraud, scams, bugs, you name it.....


I absolutely agree with the fact, that serious real issues should be addressed. But they should be addressed in a serious and factual way. And thats obviously not happening. I can not understand why people are trying everything they can to make Verge worse then it is. Verge had/has problems and they have to solve it. But thats it. I am sure noone of you guys knows Justin (i dont know him too). But there are so much insults, personal insults, insults about his coding ability, etc.

It would be a great thing, if everyone here would have to reveal his real identity. Maybe the sometimes criminal insults and allegations would at least get less.

And actually, even if i do not hold anymore more XVG than 1.000 at most, i'am still mining it as long as it's profitable on some algos, so i have some personal interest as well. And last but not least, i was a believer in this project for a long time, but the last months just hit the bottom of bad business doing with a such promising project than back. But that's just my opinion, everybody has it's right to have it's own, right?

And last but not least, i'am on a forum, i'am not posting/writing in any of the pure XVG channels, no need for that indeed.

You mine it on the one side and on the other side you are trying everything to destroy Verges reputation completely (thanks god, without success)... We are back at the point where we talked about the doctor you should see... And just to be sure... I dont mean with that, that the problems should be hidden, they just should be discussed in an appropriate way...


The pink glasses again dude. You should be thankfull to many of the guys in the XVG Attack thread. They pointed out each time first on ongoing attacks, first mentioned that the accidentially fork was bad and which was removed than, first said that the fixes aren't fixes and whatever not.... If everything was that perfect at Verge this XVG Attack thread wouldn't excist and if everything was fixed so far it would have been died long time ago, but it didn't, think about it ......


Again i agree, thats why i wonder why so much people are just fake any problems day by day, just to spread bad (fake) news. I remember again at the "halving" problem (1560 -> 730). It is in the code for years... But now they use it to make a fool of Justin, not recognizing they only make a fool of theirself... Or lets remember at some posts of someone called "boxalex" from today:

don't think so. More like "milk-the-cow-as-long-as-possible" long lasting scam

This one for example is nothing else then a crime comitted by you. You allege to the Verge team they are scamming people, without any proof for that or maybe even knowing it is not true. Where i live, this is a crime!

3rd attack ongoing on lyra2rev2 algo as it seems .... Good job!
Diff on 300 and the attacker get another bag full of Verge ...... Seems this won't come to an end soon, does it?

Or this one... There is something you dont understand. Hey lets go to the Verge thread and spread some FUD!

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May 29, 2018, 07:37:48 PM
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Why XVG used XSH code for their fix patch and didnt mentioned copyrights?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256693.msg38893408#msg38893408

Furthermore XVG dev claimed its his code and he wrote it by himself lol.


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May 29, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
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Why XVG used XSH code for their fix patch and didnt mentioned copyrights?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3256693.msg38893408#msg38893408

Furthermore XVG dev claimed its his code and he wrote it by himself lol.



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May 30, 2018, 05:30:54 AM
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we assume that all xvg's are hacked, max 1,5 billion xvg can be hacked.. max supply is 16,5 billion

1,5/16,5 =%10   price can be %10  dump.    but now price %50 down  whyyyy?
I don’t think simple formula is applicable for the price. Big part of coin value is a trust. And hack obviously does not help building trust

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May 30, 2018, 12:43:27 PM
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    Something that should be Read:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vergecurrency/comments/8n6zs8/a_note_from_cr/


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May 30, 2018, 01:40:56 PM
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Is this here the shit that gets hacked every 2 times a month  Cheesy

Yeah, thats exactly what a solid blockchain project should look like: A damn big hackers dream!

But the even funnier thing is: Crazy guys are still holding this shit  Huh

Man, damn.... this market has to crash a lot more bevor all this strange investors are ripped off , all their money is gone and they will leave the crypto space forever.

Bitconnect, Verge..... man, i like this stuff.... helping crypto space getting clean again.
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May 30, 2018, 01:54:51 PM
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From the deepest depths of my being I want you to know that Sunerok, Myself and all of our absolutely fantastic support and team members would never intentionally do anything to besmirch or hurt this project. Why? Because Verge Currency is our passion. This project has brought together many different walks of life that all share a love and fondness for what Sunerok started many years ago and we would never want to damage what we worked so hard to create, develop, and improve.

...

To start, our team is coming together live for the first time in Amsterdam on June 9th. This is going to give us a chance to meet each other in person and really talk about project direction and how we can accomplish those goals. The Amsterdam meetup is also going to give those who are attending a chance to actually put faces to the names of some of our team members and strengthening our bond. This is going to be a huge step towards solidifying our team for the future.

...

We are not going anywhere – Verge Currency and its team are here to stay regardless of what happens. We have invested far too many long years into this project to see it fail.

please go and read the post on reddit and take this home as an important statement by some people who are into this way longer than most of us.
VERGE will stay and so will we. if in doubt, ignore the FUD and HODL! Smiley


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May 30, 2018, 03:39:20 PM
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The link and "tl;dr" to this was a start but, I think the entire thing should be posted in the forum for all the idiots and FUD slingers that like to hang out here:

"A note from CR

Dear VergeFam,

I have been sitting here for a while – reading through posts, articles, twitter feeds, and social media in general to try and take in all the different views and consider them with an unbiased outlook. As many of you are fully aware, I have been on this project for a long time and it is very hard for me to not just automatically defend my baby when there is criticism. Also, it has been difficult for me to find an appropriate way to discuss these subjects openly, as our community has been infested by a thick cloud of toxicity and hatred, which, frankly, some may be justified while a lot are just attempts by individuals or projects in our space wanting to tear us down for ulterior motives.

I know that a lot of our longtime supporters and community members may feel nervous and ask whether our development team is doing enough. Why do they not respond to FUD? I’ll get to these questions shortly.

Today, The Larry and Joe Show posted a new video – I always enjoy hearing what they have to say as they are probably about as unbiased as you can get. While watching the show, it was very apparent that Larry and Joe weren’t their usual chipper and high spirited selves, but instead their expressions seem somber (or melancholy) which caught my attention - (starting at timestamp: 16:28).

“I will personally say that, I can’t believe that Sunerok or the Team would do something to hurt this coin you know? And or deliberately do something to hurt the coin.”

“From an investor’s standpoint, you know it is scary in a way because you’re taking hard earned money that you earned and saying ok I believe that putting this $5,000.00 right now, it is going to be worth more money in the future and when something like this happens and it’s like a step or two back you know you get nervous and I think anyone who was holding Verge when they heard that news felt the same way. So it’s just natural, But you know like we always say it’s not how hard you get hit it’s how good you come back.”

Hearing the show’s commentary made me reflect on how far we have come from a small rag tag team and community project to where we are now - a substantial and sophisticated, global project. However, I also realized that along the way, I lost touch as I do not know most of you, and a lot of you who came to our project over time might not know me, my ethos, or dedication to our community/project.

But I do know that we are all in this incredibly, volatile space together and trying to either build a project with the prospects of it being adopted on a global scale or investing our hard earned money into something bigger than ourselves with the hopes and aspirations of some semblance of relief, whether it be financial independence, a better tomorrow, or any other worthy ideals.

From the deepest depths of my being I want you to know that Sunerok, Myself and all of our absolutely fantastic support and team members would never intentionally do anything to besmirch or hurt this project. Why? Because Verge Currency is our passion. This project has brought together many different walks of life that all share a love and fondness for what Sunerok started many years ago and we would never want to damage what we worked so hard to create, develop, and improve.

With Verge Currency going through all of these various trials and tribulations – I promise you, we are prepared to continue moving ahead full force.

To start, our team is coming together live for the first time in Amsterdam on June 9th. This is going to give us a chance to meet each other in person and really talk about project direction and how we can accomplish those goals. The Amsterdam meetup is also going to give those who are attending a chance to actually put faces to the names of some of our team members and strengthening our bond. This is going to be a huge step towards solidifying our team for the future.

To give you all some additional good news:

Our development team (yes, there is more than one developer) has been working tirelessly for the past several weeks to rebase our primary code for Verge Currency. This move is going to enable a vast array of opportunities for us and will help solidify our currency against any future attacks. We have decided to incorporate RingCT with this massive codebase revision instead of just releasing RingCT separately as it just makes logical sense. While I am not at liberty to discuss a timeline, I can confidently tell you that there have been massive strides made and the development team is getting closer to completion with every passing day. We are confident that the code changes are very significant and are going to improve Verge Currency and its future partnership potential exponentially.

Now – Let me address our valuable and much appreciated investors:

Our presence (@vergecurrency) on social media has been lack luster. Our community team members have been going above and beyond to spread as much information as they can or share what they have been given. Communication is our biggest enemy on the Verge Currency Team as we have not clearly established a process for systematically relaying information in a timely fashion. Yes, it sounds like an excuse – I get it – but it is the simple truth. In order to keep up with the continuous onslaught of misinformation and FUD that is being spread against Verge Currency we would need to dedicate multiple people to answering questions and reassuring investors. While our team tries to the best of their abilities to do this – It has been fairly overwhelming as of late. Another big reason why you are not seeing active updates on the @VergeCurrency handle is because our account was compromised a few months ago, and after regaining control, we decided best to keep the control of the account under the management of one person to limit the amount of people who had direct control over the account as well as increase security measures to prevent the compromise in the future. As most of you probably noticed – past that date – the post count and engagement from the @Vergecurrency handle dropped significantly. We are aware of this issue and are going to rectify this immediately as we know most, if not all of you, depend on that handle as the ‘source of truth and news’ when it comes to all things Verge Currency.

Without getting too far into the weeds, I would like to re-establish this thought process:

Verge Currency – and many of its competitors and counterparts in this segment – are all entering into a very much unknown space. Like many, if not all of the great companies in the world, we are going to make some mistakes, have growing pains, disagreements and so on. While we are aware of this, we must also be aware that we will try to make the best judgement calls and decisions along the way based on then-available information.

It is very –VERY easy to get wrapped up in negative thoughts and spiral out of control when all you see online are articles and FUD about a particular project. Our space has an uncanny power to attract some of the best and brightest minds as well as some of the most vile and despicable people in the world. I understand that it is extremely hard to “keep faith” in something when all you see is negativity. I understand also that it is hard to resist the urge to say “to hell with this” when communications is slow or lacking.

I get it and I can’t stress to you enough that while we have been going through struggles lately, we are taking in all of the feedback and are plotting a course through the quagmire. We are not going anywhere – Verge Currency and its team are here to stay regardless of what happens. We have invested far too many long years into this project to see it fail.

I want to take a moment to thank each and every one of our loyal and steadfast investors and community members who’ve stuck with us. While it may be difficult to comprehend at this time, there is an extremely bright light we are heading toward on this journey.

With Sincerity,

-CR"

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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