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May 25, 2018, 07:53:55 AM
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!

After this storm we can see a big blue sky and everything will be smooth and interesting. That's a good chance to get more cheap coins and hold it for a while . I used to get a big profit with this news 3 months ago and now maybe it will return again.

This is good opportunity to invest more as it has affected the price, but it is not good overall.Just as we were getting back the trust in general, this kind of thing happens again and we are back to ground zero.This should be sorted and avoided in future if XVG wants to go somewhere.
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May 25, 2018, 09:53:10 AM
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No software program or project is ever 100% secure. Even the best of the best cryptocurrency projects have bug bounty programs where they encourage the software community to attempt to find security vulnerabilities in their code in a bid to make them more secure. And when one such vulnerability is found, the creators usually offer a patch to the software as the Verge (XVG) team is doing, and also give a reward to whomever found the vulnerability in the code.

XVG recovering the price and soon recover our losses. Developers are actively working.

Are you sure they are actively working? On gifthub the patch is locked for comments and even people that found new weaknesses can't post it. Nothing has changed in the path, it seems still the same way vulnerable. Seems we are going to wait for TimeSpoofAttack V3.0 . What a joke and you call this Devs actively working?
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May 25, 2018, 10:19:14 AM
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No software program or project is ever 100% secure. Even the best of the best cryptocurrency projects have bug bounty programs where they encourage the software community to attempt to find security vulnerabilities in their code in a bid to make them more secure. And when one such vulnerability is found, the creators usually offer a patch to the software as the Verge (XVG) team is doing, and also give a reward to whomever found the vulnerability in the code.

XVG recovering the price and soon recover our losses. Developers are actively working.

Are you sure they are actively working? On gifthub the patch is locked for comments and even people that found new weaknesses can't post it. Nothing has changed in the path, it seems still the same way vulnerable. Seems we are going to wait for TimeSpoofAttack V3.0 . What a joke and you call this Devs actively working?

If you can not believe this coin then you can buy or join another coins , Bitcoin or Ethereum or any coins had ever a big issue or hacking but why they have grown and kept going to the sky and many investors still buy and hold them . The fact is that Dev always does his best to make it safer and better for the investors and users .
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May 25, 2018, 10:25:37 AM
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When xvg 10k again?

When it was on 10k maybe you dreamed about this price and now start asking from other people. First you should have to look over the chart to find the ATH than you will get shocked to see where it was during this pump.
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May 25, 2018, 11:28:58 AM
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When xvg 10k again?

When it was on 10k maybe you dreamed about this price and now start asking from other people. First you should have to look over the chart to find the ATH than you will get shocked to see where it was during this pump.
10k for a verge is overpriced because verge has a very large supply. 2k is probably the right ATH price.
You should start preparing your bag and buy some Verge before this coin goes up to 1k again, 100% is more than enough in my opinion.

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May 25, 2018, 01:06:53 PM
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Hello VERGE believers,

Our aim is to add value to the whole crypto community by giving the best user experience to analyse cryptocurrencies.

It would be really great help from your side if you can spend 60 seconds of your time and give us your valuable feedback for our two recent updates 1) Snapshot and 2) Colourful interface of VERGE at: https://cointopper.com/coin/verge

Constructive criticisms are always welcome at CoinTopper.  Thank you!!
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May 25, 2018, 03:45:14 PM
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Hello VERGE believers,

Our aim is to add value to the whole crypto community by giving the best user experience to analyse cryptocurrencies.

It would be really great help from your side if you can spend 60 seconds of your time and give us your valuable feedback for our two recent updates 1) Snapshot and 2) Colourful interface of VERGE at: https://cointopper.com/coin/verge

Constructive criticisms are always welcome at CoinTopper.  Thank you!!

Nice looking, soft on the eyes. But you should have BTC as one of the currencies in your drop down menu (along with the ones you have USD, EUR, etc..)

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May 25, 2018, 04:51:24 PM
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Here's a simple step-by-step guide on how to buy Verge (XVG) on Binance!
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May 25, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
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NakamotoX delisting XVG

Just got this email from them:



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we bring to you new important announcement about Verge.
 

Due to the latest suspicious events around the Verge, we decided to delist this cryptocurrency from NakamotoX.

We do not want to support cryptocurrencies that behave suspiciously. We understand when a mistake occurs, but Verge has already made a lot of very critical mistakes and it is still happening over and over again.

We want to promote cryptocurrencies that are useful and have a future.

We appeal to our users to withdraw Verge from our NakamotoX trading platform until May 27, 2018. May 28, 2018 will the Verge be delisted.
 

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May 25, 2018, 05:20:06 PM
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Here's a simple step-by-step guide on how to buy Verge (XVG) on Binance!

Lol better just throw your cash directly in an actual dumpster fire.
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May 25, 2018, 05:33:20 PM
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Good thing XSH has already taken care on this XVG hacks and can not be harmed.
SHIELD actually might become better version of XVG since its taken all the good parts from this project and already evolved in noticeably more advanced blockchain.
And even more to come with SHIELD 3.0 upcoming update.

XVG getting code from XSH project? http://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/9610847

XSH was a fork from XVG in the first place but right now XVG is copying code from SHIELD project to fix their exploit attack!

So does this mean XVG is now a fork of XSH?

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May 25, 2018, 09:04:22 PM
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December 2017 xvg increased to 0.23 and last month to 0.11, so I think that is possible but if bitcoin decrease to 7k or less we will see verge decreasing at the same proportion
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May 25, 2018, 11:48:14 PM
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Every time Verge moves forward an inch, it seems there is a targeted attack planned to introduce fear and uncertainty. That is our curse - how can we un-curse Verge? This is not random for sure!

After this storm we can see a big blue sky and everything will be smooth and interesting. That's a good chance to get more cheap coins and hold it for a while . I used to get a big profit with this news 3 months ago and now maybe it will return again.

This is good opportunity to invest more as it has affected the price, but it is not good overall.Just as we were getting back the trust in general, this kind of thing happens again and we are back to ground zero.This should be sorted and avoided in future if XVG wants to go somewhere.
XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.
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May 26, 2018, 12:19:06 AM
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XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....
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May 26, 2018, 07:49:17 AM
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Anybody heard when Verge wallet on Bittrex will be enabled again?
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May 26, 2018, 09:10:31 AM
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XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...
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May 26, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
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XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.
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XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.

I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

And i did not compare bitcoin and verge in a relevant way. You can take bitcoin above and replace it with any other crypto...

You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be divided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

By the way, Bitcoin is a fantastic thing, no question. But from technical point, Bitcoin is one of the worst Cryptocurrencies out there. There are tons of better Cryptos, XVG included, but no question, there are much better Cryptos then verge, because of better DEV teams. But in long term i am convinced that all Cryptocurrencies, that keep PoW wont have a chance to survive. As good as the idea behind bitcoin is, if the needed power consumption for mining will increase at the same rate like it does the last years bitcoin will need the same amount of power as the whole world need without bitcoin in about 5 years... Not to mention, that no PoW-currency is really decentralized as there is one country that produces about 95% of the miners, China. These are the reasons, why i think, that Ethereum will be number one at latest by the end of 2019, because they begin to switch from PoW to PoS slowly with the new Casper Protocol. In mid term, each cryptocurrency that misses this neccesary step, will die in my opinion, Bitcoin included, if they miss that. The only reason why Bitcoin is still there where it is right now, is the first mover advantage, but this advantage will decrease day by day.
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May 26, 2018, 02:12:30 PM
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XVG is now not among the coins which have a future with zero but it already passed away from that situation and now its roots are much stronger than many of the coins. It just need a mind from the investors. If they will read about the upcoming use of this coin in the market then they will invest in this coin.

In 2018, if you are the user of XVG then you will know that, the use of XVG got a bigger boost when they partnered with mindgeek which is also tending the demand of the coin to increase. This is not the only company and partnership but the team is also extremely busy in making more and more partners. Tokenpay is also becoming a source to boom up the price of XVG when they will start its debit cards. The plus point is that in this year not only the demand of the coin is increased but also the supply is halved for the miners in the previous month. So the flow from the mining to the market is halved which will become a reason for the price to double up when the market will be okay.

You have no idea how that halving works out for mining. I made a detailed post some 10 or 20 pages earlier, seems you missed it. If you think that halving the mining reward of a 16B max supply is doubling its price you are totally ultra mega wrong. The impact is about 0.1% on price, at most with such max. supply and daily volume.

We are back to the roots dude.....

The max supply has nothing to do with that. That was wrong 10 sides before, it is the same 10 sides later...

Bitcoin: Supply: ~17,100,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 6 * 24 * 12.5 = 1,800

Percent of supply right now: 1,800 / 17,100,000 * 100 = 0,0105%


Verge: Supply: ~15,000,000,000 Coins, new Coins per Day: 120 * 24 * 730 = 2,102,400

Percent of supply right now: 2,102,400 / 15,000,000,000 * 100 = 0.0140%


So Bitcoin as well as Verge has a daily increase of coins, of less then 0.02%.

This has nothing to do with the higher max supply. The number of bitcoins mined each day is much less, because of the lower max supply...

Than just wait like the other guy that it doubles in price due halving  Grin

And Bitcoin is just that, Bitcoin. Everybody that compares whatever Altcoin with Bitcoin is should get back to reality. Not even talking about comparing XVG with BTC, lol. Total joke.

I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

And i did not compare bitcoin and verge in a relevant way. You can take bitcoin above and replace it with any other crypto...

You could take bitcoins today, increase max supply from 21,000,000 to 21,000,000,000. What would happen? Each Bitcoin-holder would have 1000 times more bitcoins in his wallet and the price would be devided by 1000 and the amount of mined Bitcoins per block would increase to 12,500. Thats it. Calculated in any fiat, nothing would happen.

By the way, Bitcoin is a fantastic thing, no question. But from technical point, Bitcoin is one of the worst Cryptocurrencies out there. There are tons of better Cryptos, XVG included, but no question, there are much better Cryptos then verge, because of better DEV teams. But in long term i am convinced that all Cryptocurrencies, that keep PoW wont have a chance to survive. As good as the idea behind bitcoin is, if the needed power consumption for mining will increase at the same rate like it does the last years bitcoin will need the same amount of power as the whole world need without bitcoin in about 5 years... Not to mention, that no PoW-currency is really decentralized as there is one country that produces about 95% of the miners, China. These are the reasons, why i think, that Ethereum will be number one at latest by the end of 2019, because they begin to switch from PoW to PoS slowly with the new Casper Protocol. In mid term, each cryptocurrency that misses this neccesary step, will die in my opinion, Bitcoin included, if they miss that. The only reason why Bitcoin is still there where it is right now, is the first mover advantage, but this advantage will decrease day by day.

You might be right. But the "devil is in the details". Its seems to me that there are many more ways to implement PoS than PoW.  Some might work, but some might have flaws and unforeseen shortcomings.

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May 26, 2018, 02:59:07 PM
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I didnt say, price will double because of the halving. It will not, as i already mentioned some pages before. Meanwhile there is a new mining balance and you earn about the same amount of verge like before the halving, as hashrate has spreaded new.

I just tried to explain you, that this has nothing to do with the higher max supply of Verge...

I am trying this for some weeks now, but it seems you are resistent to understand it...

My post was related to the halving and the price of verge, and why you believe the max. supply has nothing to do with the price, so it be. I know that the price and the formula for it has to do with max. supply.
You are free to believe that a 15 billion max. supply coin get have a USD 100 price, or that a 1B coin get to 1.000 USD, but it just won't happen exactly due the max. supply.

Whatever, most of us live in a democratic country and can believe in whatever they won't ....
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