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April 22, 2018, 01:20:57 PM
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For me, verge to become more and more powerful as a coin, should have more applications and users. These new industry that verge are applied would clearly make it more usable.

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April 22, 2018, 03:02:18 PM
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I can't understand why anyone would say it is a bad move. Any kind of adoption can only benefit the space as a whole regardless of the specific use case.

Because nobody yet knows really if its a bad or good move in the long turn, here some arguments for good/bad move that immediatly come into my mind:

- the adoption will mostly benefit the whole crypto world, i think there is not much doubt about it, every use case is good.

- one problem that often has mentioned is the paid 50-65M XVG for the "partnership", this is a huge amount. Someone can argue if that way its a partnerhip
or just paid intregration, sponsorship, clientship, or something mixed.

- while mindgeek is a huge enterpise with profits, this does not automaticly mean every partner will make millions of profits to.

- Someone has to see if this "partnership" goes for longer, finds indeed adoption or its more like a test. In case, for whatever reason, mindgeek discontinues
XVG as a initial payment method than the deal will turn out a total flop. Having Verge only on 3 sites makes it a bit looking like a test. I guess this is one of
the signals to be a bit cautious at the moment.

- So far recurring/renew option is not available. Without having this the deal is not as good as it could be .... i guess there is no doubt here. There is so far
no garantee from the interview of mindgeek that this will come indeed in the near future if it comes ....

- Will it be further implented into the mindgeek pages? More sites? Webcam Model payments? other purchases? We do not know. These are things you might
associate with the partnership, but until its not in place and working for longer, it's nothing to count on. I have my doubts for Webcam Models in generally and
do not think it will happen, if ever, the next years. But who knows?!

- We have yet no digits on how many memberships are made with XVG, and when we know, we have first to see how this will profit Verge at all. Is it only the
transaction fees Verge profits? Other? Nothing than exposure on these high visited porn pages? We do again not know yet.

- When i investigated pornhub about 12 hours bevor the deal was released i saw on the pornhub forum a poll or questioneri/thread people asking for Crypto/Verge
as a payment. If i remember right it have been about 5000 people over the months requesting it on the forum. With millions of daily users this digit is not really high.
However, does not mean anything of course, just remembered it that there is a chance XVG does not get that adopted as a payment as we all think it will be.

- There is still a problem of getting XVG. It seems we to easy forget how difficult it is from time to time to get Crypto because we are all familar with exchanges, mining,
and and and. The average Joe will have its problems eventually. However, this on the other hand leaves a lot of room for improvements of course and mostly any other
deal would have faced the same problem.

- There is indeed a real chance that XVG will be (called) a porncoin. You can not compare Mastercard/Visa/Dollar to it, its not the same. With the examples the use case
for porn is about 0.01% maybe at most for all of them, while with XVG it is 100%. Neither mastercard/Visa nor the Dollar made its first steps with porn. Even not talking
that each of these three have some kind of monopol which automaticly makes them totally different and does not leave any place to compare them to XVG and the porn
deal.

- Investors, holders of XVG want at least a mid - long time price raise to have a profit out of their investement, just normally. Even more with so much money paid for
that deal. Now we have the problem that everybody expects something different as the target price. One might hope for 100 USD/XVG, the next one USD 1 and the 3rd
one is ok with 0.05 USD as this is a price raise as well. In case of further downfall of XVG many will continue to say its a bad deal as the result in price does not comply
with the price on the exchanges. If the price goes up or stays at least at 0.05 - 0.10 than we have a situation where someone can/should be ok with the result and the
deal. If it goes over 0.10 longtime naturally (without whales, december boom, etc.) than this deal has brought indeed real value to XVG. We do not know yet where the
price will settle, still too many questionmarks for a lot of things.

- The hype bevor the announcement by verge and the community itself was not good in my opinion. Many, many people got too high expectations due it, and are now
disapointed because its not amazon, ebay, paypal, german bank, whatever that made XVG going up USD 1 and to the moon. Of course its to everybodies own discretion
on what to await form the mystery deal, but that hype for sure has made a lot of people disapointed. Another approach, with a direct announcement, would have been
better for the price itself (going up and not down) as well as avoiding disappointed people. But thats just my opinion.

- Will Verge be the only Currency on mindgeek sites or do they still consider adding other coins as well? With other coins added the exclusivety is gone, while it might
be again good for the crypto community.

- The good thing is just that there is a deal, and of course in no way the worst. The deal has some potential but only time will show how good the deal was/is/will be.

This said, i personally in no way agree with the people that say its a really bad deal, but i do as well not agree that just because its mindgeek makes it a perfect deal,
because its all up what when how will be delivered from now and if its longterm with real improvements.

Just 2 satoshis on the bad/good deal discussion

Really very logical reasoning with which I overall agree. I also see it as a process and time will show if the impact of this partnership will be meaningful and properly channeled in the end.I'm optimistic in general as this at least movement forward, hopefully in marketing department as this is where XVG suffers the most.
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April 22, 2018, 03:04:26 PM
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This is getting closer.  Could Coinbase add XVG?

https://www.change.org/p/coinbase-get-verge-on-coinbase

Just curious...

Have a good day peeps!!!



That would be awesome, but it does not look likely.More likely is USDT pairing on Binance and that would be really good news also.
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April 22, 2018, 03:05:33 PM
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Hmm I think that this needs a lot more discussion than we think Sad
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April 22, 2018, 03:49:19 PM
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This is getting closer.  Could Coinbase add XVG?

https://www.change.org/p/coinbase-get-verge-on-coinbase

Just curious...

Have a good day peeps!!!



That would be awesome, but it does not look likely.More likely is USDT pairing on Binance and that would be really good news also.

IF XVG becomes part of Coinbase which has a lot of gov focus, privacy is pretty much out of the door (for the most part). I do like the Binance move though.

As for this "petition", it's more like a poll and a very small one at that; not sure if that's enough to move Coinbase towards XVG adoption.
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April 22, 2018, 06:52:51 PM
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I seems verge coin value should increase within next couple of month.so i suggest everyone to buy this coin.
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April 22, 2018, 06:58:07 PM
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I seems verge coin value should increase within next couple of month.so i suggest everyone to buy this coin.

Yeah I agree, the news was good but it will take a while to settle in. It will surely add value in the future.
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April 22, 2018, 10:06:05 PM
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I see a sudden a network difficulty spike from 2M to 5.8M on Verge/Myriad-Groestl , anyone else or just some glitch on my miner program?

Update: 6,123,750.18413109 and its raising, this is not normal in my opinion!!!!!
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April 22, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
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on April 17 is the highest price verge reached 0.000014 btc, then dropped drastically to 0.000007xx btc, positive issues and rising prices btc have not been able to raise the price verge
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April 23, 2018, 01:25:42 AM
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on April 17 is the highest price verge reached 0.000014 btc, then dropped drastically to 0.000007xx btc, positive issues and rising prices btc have not been able to raise the price verge
Verge has decreased in price because of the issue of Pornhub and some others think that this news is negative because the things that smell porn is not legal in some countries.
And a privacy coin used for porn is actually negative.
Actually many functions for this coin than about porn.

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April 23, 2018, 05:58:39 AM
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on April 17 is the highest price verge reached 0.000014 btc, then dropped drastically to 0.000007xx btc, positive issues and rising prices btc have not been able to raise the price verge
Verge has decreased in price because of the issue of Pornhub and some others think that this news is negative because the things that smell porn is not legal in some countries.
And a privacy coin used for porn is actually negative.
Actually many functions for this coin than about porn.
yes I gree, cooperation verge with pornhub is a less popular decision, although in some countries porn is legal but in many countries porn is illegal. verge can try partnering with amazon or other popular and legal companies for all countries
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April 23, 2018, 06:39:12 AM
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I buy verge in bittrex when the price is 0.0000093 btc because look at the previous trading chart price 0.000014, I hope the verge price goes back to 0.000014 btc but long wait price is still down

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April 23, 2018, 06:48:47 AM
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I buy verge in bittrex when the price is 0.0000093 btc because look at the previous trading chart price 0.000014, I hope the verge price goes back to 0.000014 btc but long wait price is still down

trading volume verge in bittrex is very high, and the price is fluctuating, just waiting time for a verge price increase

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April 23, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
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https://medium.com/@Strange_bt_True/how-big-is-the-porn-industry-fbc1ac78091b


http://www.cracked.com/article_23394_6-people-youve-never-heard-who-secretly-rule-world.html

Only Need to read the midgeek part.

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April 23, 2018, 11:34:16 AM
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Seemingly Common Questions

"Who pays for porn? LOL"
Apparently MindGeek's subsidiary was bringing in well over $200 million a year from premium subscriptions alone.
http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-based-porn-firm-profits-3569482-Aug2017/
The webcam industry has grown to over $1 billion in revenues yearly (this is not all ad revenue)
https://www.bustle.com/articles/189498-how-many-men-actually-pay-for-porn-one-in-10-guys-have-paid-porn-subscriptions
"Didn't Verge just pay them for advertising essentially?"
MindGeek approached Verge months ago in search of a coin that was popular enough to meet their market entry needs as well as secure/private enough to meet the wants of their consumer base. Some of the crowdfunding (75 million XVG - $3 million) was used for integration of XVG into several of GeekMind's top platforms like PornHub and Brazzers initially, to be later done on the others. With that said, the crowdfunding itself proved to PornHub that XVG's community was engaged enough to actually see this partnership pan out. MindGeeks doesn't need a measly $3 million, they bring in half a million a day just on PornHub. This is the introduction of crypto currency in the adult industry (yes, some sites have allowed crypto like BTC but not MindGeek or on a level that even comes close to matching this). MindGeek is actively marketing Verge as "the" privacy coin for anonymity over the internet.
Besides all that, what is so wrong with spending some of the crowdfunding money on advertisement in general? One hundred million people every single day are going to see Verge on their computer screens. This is actively marketing Verge as "the" privacy coin for anonymity over the internet in one of the most real world applications that we've seen before.
"Verge is the porn coin now LOL all respect gone"
This entire thing is about demonstrating the use of a privacy coin in a real world scenario. It is demonstrating that a global brand can offer a crypto currency as a competitor to fiat in general. This is not only huge for XVG, a relatively small coin, but also for the crypto space in general. Premium adult content being sold for a currency that can guarantee anonmynity to the user...this should be a no brainer.
There are already rumor and talks about heading potentially into the medical marijuana space and the applications of privacy seem to be popping up every day. It is obvious that the porn industry isn't the only place where consumers might value anonymity.
That's all I can do in one sitting...feel free to suggest additions/modifications Smiley
BIG UPDATE Binance to offer XVG USD pairing: https://cryptorecorder.com/2018/04/19/binance-to-add-usd-to-crypto-trading-pairs-soon-both-xvg-usd-and-xrp-usd-to-get-a-boost/amp/

Random Facts About MindGeek

Multi-billion dollar company

One hundred billion dollar industry

36th in the world most visited website (in general) is PornHub

PornHub is the #1 porn site in the world

Up to 100 million views a day

Average daily revenue of $600,000

Crowd Funding

MindGeek approached Verge first, in search of a coin with a focus on privacy and security. In order to show that Verge had the community support that was required for MindGeek to be convinced, they launched a crowdfunding campaign where users of the community donated their XVG for things like future marketing and Verge integration into other systems. 75 million XVG (or $3 million) was raised by the community and a member of the TokenPay team (who donated the majority of needed XVGs themselves)


Partnership Announcement from Pornhub

https://twitter.com/Pornhub/status/986254704744304640

Information about Verge's partner MindGeek

https://www.mindgeek.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MindGeek

A picture of MindGeek's extensive adult entertainment brands

https://twitter.com/greentazn/status/986368313226756096

https://i.redd.it/8u3bqx0sjrs01.jpg

Media from #VergeDay (April 17th, 2018) - Partnership with MindGeek Announced

http://www.businessinsider.com/pornhub-begins-accepting-cryptocurrency-verge-2018-4

https://www.wired.com/story/pornhub-verge-cryptocurrency?mbid=social_twitter

https://www.pcmag.com/news/360485/pornhub-brazzers-now-accept-cryptocurrency

http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/17/pornhub-lets-smut-fans-cover-tracks-making-payments-using-cryptocurrency-verge-7475296/?ito=desktop.article.share.bottom.twitter

https://www.wired.com/story/pornhub-verge-cryptocurrency/?mbid=social_twitter_onsiteshare

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2018/04/pornhub-accepts-cryptocurrency-now/

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/04/17/pornhub-verge-cryptocurrency-partner

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-future-has-come-pornhub-now-accepts-verge-cryptocurrency-to-keep-current-with-its-communitys-payment-preferences-300631288.html

https://ethereumworldnews.com/world-famous-pornhub-now-accepts-verge-xvg-for-subscriptions/

http://fortune.com/2018/04/17/verge-pornhub-mindgeek-cryptocurrency-brazzers/

https://www.coindesk.com/pornhub-adds-crypto-payment-option-verge-token/?utm_content=buffer4e498&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

https://www.forbes.com/sites/curtissilver/2018/04/17/pornhub-partners-with-verge-cryptocurrency-shifting-the-future-of-porn-payments/#38ac663524b5

https://mashable.com/2018/04/17/pornhub-verge-cryptocurrency/#PkgB3kH_.ZOA

https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/17/17244916/pornhub-cryptocurrency-verge-xvg

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/world-biggest-porn-pornhub-partners-170909521.html

https://futurism.com/pornhub-accepts-verge-cryptocurrency/


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April 23, 2018, 11:57:29 AM
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today I see the price of altcoin increases and the exchanger is green, I'm waiting for the same thing to happen on the verge

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April 23, 2018, 12:22:01 PM
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Why price of verge dip, i think people were expecting partnership with copany like Amazon or flipkart ? Porn Hub is also a big platform i guess.

What do you think guys ?
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April 23, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
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can anyone please share the compiled daemon for ubuntu 16 ?
I cannot compile it due to errors and can't find it anywhere on the web or github.
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April 23, 2018, 12:48:56 PM
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True...many have jumped ship after learning about the partnership...Btw...the partnership was NOT with pornhub...It was with Mindgeek !!!… MindGeek owns many of the porn websites that include pornhub and redtube. They have over 100 million daily visitors and is one of the top 10 consumers of bandwidth...  Video sites are by far the biggest consumers of bandwidth on the Web: Netflix, YouTube, Twitch...Stop being such idiots and not seeing the siginificance of this partnership....Its HUGE in the crypto world....XVG is on its way to mass adoption...They are already meeting with other companies who are interested in adding xvg as a payment option...One in particular that is huge is in the gaming industry....And stop talking shit about no one pays for porn...YOU FOOL !!....Pornhub alone has millions of subscribers....So like it or not....its gonna be big for xvg...Yeah...sure I think the whole porn thing is icky...but when you invest...you have to leave your emotions out of it....The price you see has remained stable...Do you not remember that just a few short weeks ago the price was only in the 500 sat range???...The price will increase....and siginificantly...Be ready this week...Main dev will be on NBC...So you guys keep talking sh!t...lol...

btw....as usual...price is being highly manipulated by whales this past week...aka price supression so they can accumulate...LOL  Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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April 23, 2018, 12:56:36 PM
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I buy verge in bittrex when the price is 0.0000093 btc because look at the previous trading chart price 0.000014, I hope the verge price goes back to 0.000014 btc but long wait price is still down

trading volume verge in bittrex is very high, and the price is fluctuating, just waiting time for a verge price increase

This is a good thing (heavy trading volumes) - it's an opportunity to increase your XVG holdings if you do it right. I use various automated bots on a few exchanges just to keep trading.

DYOR and set algos that work for you.
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