Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

[bryant.coleman]

If Germany and Austria are donating the most money, how is the "4th Reich" useful for them?
It's just draining € from them, by your logic

Remember what happened in the 1930s. The third Reich had also employed similar tactics. Right now, Germany is in short supply of slave labor. The European Union provides them cheap labor from countries such as Greece, Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria. What happened to the Greeks (debt bondage) will happen to the others in the EU as well. They can work for the German masters, until they payoff their never-ending debts.

[xslugx]

Slaves love their masters. They will not leave.

Please don't say that! I hope they will leave I hope it so much!!!

[Lethn]

Slaves love their masters. They will not leave.

Please don't say that! I hope they will leave I hope it so much!!!

So do I but I can totally understand his pessimism, I fear it will be like with Greece and Scotland, they just won't have the balls to do it.

[xslugx]

Slaves love their masters. They will not leave.

Please don't say that! I hope they will leave I hope it so much!!!

So do I but I can totally understand his pessimism, I fear it will be like with Greece and Scotland, they just won't have the balls to do it.

I just don't understand why our presidents accepted the Brexit conditions...

"Kneel down and suck it!"
 "yes sir"

[Lethn]

They're going for unelected Europion Union jobs, that's why they'll do anything, they can sit there earning thousands a month doing pretty much nothing with no way to get rid of them, the European Union in my opnion is an attempt at establishing an empire because nobody voted for these fuckers in charge at the central bank and so on.

[eon89]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

[panju1]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

There are advantages and disadvantages. For the richer, Western European countries, the disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. 

[bryant.coleman]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

There are advantages and disadvantages. For the richer, Western European countries, the disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. 

That is 100% true. The Western European Union members (i.e the original members) made so many concessions to the new members (i.e those from the former Warsaw Pact), so that they will join the organization. But in due course, the Eastern members started misusing their privileges, angering the citizens of the western nations. For example, right now the British welfare system is exploited to the core by immigrants from Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria. In some cases, native British were evicted from the council flats, to make room for these immigrants.

[mainpmf]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

I'm all for a real EU. A real Eu would mean a Federal government with EU policies that are applied and can't be get rid of (like UK is doing).

First mandatory thing should be to have a unique taxation system.

[mainpmf]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

There are advantages and disadvantages. For the richer, Western European countries, the disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. 

That is 100% true. The Western European Union members (i.e the original members) made so many concessions to the new members (i.e those from the former Warsaw Pact), so that they will join the organization. But in due course, the Eastern members started misusing their privileges, angering the citizens of the western nations. For example, right now the British welfare system is exploited to the core by immigrants from Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria. In some cases, native British were evicted from the council flats, to make room for these immigrants.

You seem to have problems with migrants, but they're not the real problem. Wanna know where the real problem is? Ireland and Luxembourg. Those two countries are the biggest parasites of EU. Migrants are a problem, but they could be easily dealt with with a good economy and enough money. But fact is that all the BIG COMPANIES in EU have offshore companies in Ireland an Luxembourg where they pay nearly 0 taxes. It means, for example, that Apple makes billions of € in EU and gives NOTHING to EU states. And then we got debt and problem with migrants... But with Apple, Google, McDonald etc money, we could get rid of the debt, lower taxes of the people, have a better economy, less unemployment and suddenly migrants would be a much less important problem!

[eon89]

You mean to say that the European Union is a bad thing and would like to see it dismantled?

There are advantages and disadvantages. For the richer, Western European countries, the disadvantages seem to outweigh the advantages. 

That is 100% true. The Western European Union members (i.e the original members) made so many concessions to the new members (i.e those from the former Warsaw Pact), so that they will join the organization. But in due course, the Eastern members started misusing their privileges, angering the citizens of the western nations. For example, right now the British welfare system is exploited to the core by immigrants from Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria. In some cases, native British were evicted from the council flats, to make room for these immigrants.

You seem to have problems with migrants, but they're not the real problem. Wanna know where the real problem is? Ireland and Luxembourg. Those two countries are the biggest parasites of EU. Migrants are a problem, but they could be easily dealt with with a good economy and enough money. But fact is that all the BIG COMPANIES in EU have offshore companies in Ireland an Luxembourg where they pay nearly 0 taxes. It means, for example, that Apple makes billions of € in EU and gives NOTHING to EU states. And then we got debt and problem with migrants... But with Apple, Google, McDonald etc money, we could get rid of the debt, lower taxes of the people, have a better economy, less unemployment and suddenly migrants would be a much less important problem!

Sounds interesting. I didn't know that about Ireland and Luxembourg.

[SimplisticStu]

I love this thread  I'm in the UK and I agree with some of you that state UK are better out of the EU and I agree with some who say it's a dictatorship.
IMO I hope UK does leave the EU, as the 2nd biggest contributor those resources could be used much more effectively on the UK to sort the welfare system so it's fair and does not discriminate against hard working people such as myself that pay into it. I see too many "lazy" people day to day who are happy to sit at home with their designer TV's and a full fridge of food and sign a piece of paper every 2 weeks to state they are "looking" for work when in actual fact they know they are doing just fine without working. This should not be the case, they should struggle and feel the pinch if they don't work, the incentive isn't there for them to break that habit and genuinely go out and find work. I agree with immigrants coming into the UK (not the illegal ones) as I feel they play an important role in the UK economy but for the lazy UK citizens to lay the blame here (which most do) is not only a sign of ignorance, it shows a lack of knowledge to whats actually going on around them. I personally look forward to the referendum.

[designerusa]

As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

each country in europe should leave this evil organisation for the sake of its sanity... europeen union sucks our souls.. and bloods brutally..

[blackbird307]

As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

each country in europe should leave this evil organisation for the sake of its sanity... europeen union sucks our souls.. and bloods brutally..

"Evil organization"? I am curious about the country you live in. Could that be Germany?

[bryant.coleman]

each country in europe should leave this evil organisation for the sake of its sanity... europeen union sucks our souls.. and bloods brutally..

Although I hate the European Union, it is not possible to ignore the positive effect it had on the former Warsaw pact nations such as Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, and Slovakia. The European Union membership resulted in improving the living standards in each of these nations. The average wages increased by manifold, there was improvement in the health sector, and the local farmers became eligible for comprehensive subsidies. Without the European Union, these countries will go back to the stone age.

[blackbird307]

I am amazed to see that someone actually takes the side of the Union. Well done.

[Zeke2345]

If they do leave the stock market will go haywire and not sure if I like the domino effect that would surface as a result.
But I also do not want to see the U.K over run by political interests that go contrary to its well being.

Imagine if they do leave it would cause other Countries to start punting migrants that where forced on them.

[iluvbitcoins]

Actually considering its very special and unique status, UK isn't a donor but a parasite (with your categories).

Here is the net contribution to the EU budget in 2015:



As you can see, the United Kingdom is the second largest net donor, after Germany. And surprisingly Netherlands is at #3 (I was expecting France or Italy).

This doesn't mean anything

How much do they get back? What is the percentage of it considering being a small/big country?

If Germany and Austria are donating the most money, how is the "4th Reich" useful for them?
It's just draining € from them, by your logic

Remember what happened in the 1930s. The third Reich had also employed similar tactics. Right now, Germany is in short supply of slave labor. The European Union provides them cheap labor from countries such as Greece, Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria. What happened to the Greeks (debt bondage) will happen to the others in the EU as well. They can work for the German masters, until they payoff their never-ending debts.

Which tactics are those?

Except for Germany having a debt of 2.2 trillion €

You could wrap $1 bills around the Earth 9,122 times with the debt amount

If you lay $1 bills on top of each other they would make a pile 255,922 km

That's equivalent to 0.67 trips to the Moon

You're a ruskie, you don't want a strong union of countries on the west, it's cool, we get it 

[zenitzz]

The UK should exit the EU and join NAFTA and The UK has a lot more in common with the US and Canada than they ever did with these other Europeans and their bizarre legal systems.

[mrhelpful]

Actually considering its very special and unique status, UK isn't a donor but a parasite (with your categories).

Here is the net contribution to the EU budget in 2015:



As you can see, the United Kingdom is the second largest net donor, after Germany. And surprisingly Netherlands is at #3 (I was expecting France or Italy).

This doesn't mean anything

How much do they get back? What is the percentage of it considering being a small/big country?

If Germany and Austria are donating the most money, how is the "4th Reich" useful for them?
It's just draining € from them, by your logic

Remember what happened in the 1930s. The third Reich had also employed similar tactics. Right now, Germany is in short supply of slave labor. The European Union provides them cheap labor from countries such as Greece, Romania, Poland, and Bulgaria. What happened to the Greeks (debt bondage) will happen to the others in the EU as well. They can work for the German masters, until they payoff their never-ending debts.

Which tactics are those?

Except for Germany having a debt of 2.2 trillion €

You could wrap $1 bills around the Earth 9,122 times with the debt amount

If you lay $1 bills on top of each other they would make a pile 255,922 km

That's equivalent to 0.67 trips to the Moon

You're a ruskie, you don't want a strong union of countries on the west, it's cool, we get it 

Okay outside from their huge crisis like americas.

I`m more of afraid of the recent light with cold war 2.0 what vice filmed on the ground with going with russia.

And I have a feeling a possible WW3..