Dragon's Tale - a Massively Multiplayer Online RPG/Casino

[ranlo]

I've only ever used the linux client.  It works alright for me.  You need several i386 packages in order for it to run.  I'm on debian but I assume ubuntu is multiarch by now.

I think the solidier statues on the private islands still work.

yes linux  client runs fine. if you are going to use faucet or soldiers to try out games it won't be enough you will have to deposit. warning this game is too addictive.

Thank you. Any good, up-to-date guide/review? (to have an idea of what I am going to find before actually getting in).

you can get guidance from your mentor inside the game they will teach you everything, i recommend user "umuri" he's good at almost every game.(i don't know if he still plays or not just check in someone will help you getting started )

+1 to that. He was my mentor as well and would go around to the different games with me and explain timing and such.

[Junko]

Yeah, Umuri was my mentor also. I would definitely recommend him if he's still there. But it's been so long since I logged into DT. Umuri was good about explaining the games and also gave you half of what he earned from being your mentor. He clued me into the secrets the seed planting game, the waterwheel, the air balloons and the wishing well. He really helped me to level up and unlock the higher level islands. Not sure if the game is the same now though. Maybe I should log in again and check things out.

[tspacepilot]

Yeah, Umuri was my mentor also. I would definitely recommend him if he's still there. But it's been so long since I logged into DT. Umuri was good about explaining the games and also gave you half of what he earned from being your mentor. He clued me into the secrets the seed planting game, the waterwheel, the air balloons and the wishing well. He really helped me to level up and unlock the higher level islands. Not sure if the game is the same now though. Maybe I should log in again and check things out.

They've actually made a lot of changes recently regarding that "giving back half" thingy.  I think it was pretty controversial and to be honest I still don't understand all the details of what went down.  In any case, I recommend LucyLuck as a mentor, she's almost always online.

[ranlo]

Yeah, Umuri was my mentor also. I would definitely recommend him if he's still there. But it's been so long since I logged into DT. Umuri was good about explaining the games and also gave you half of what he earned from being your mentor. He clued me into the secrets the seed planting game, the waterwheel, the air balloons and the wishing well. He really helped me to level up and unlock the higher level islands. Not sure if the game is the same now though. Maybe I should log in again and check things out.

They've actually made a lot of changes recently regarding that "giving back half" thingy.  I think it was pretty controversial and to be honest I still don't understand all the details of what went down.  In any case, I recommend LucyLuck as a mentor, she's almost always online.

I was wondering if this was allowed to begin with. Essentially it results in people buying referrals (who might otherwise not be using them).

[Allforone]

I like a referral system because it is not worth me showing people about the game until I am level 5

[tspacepilot]

Yeah, Umuri was my mentor also. I would definitely recommend him if he's still there. But it's been so long since I logged into DT. Umuri was good about explaining the games and also gave you half of what he earned from being your mentor. He clued me into the secrets the seed planting game, the waterwheel, the air balloons and the wishing well. He really helped me to level up and unlock the higher level islands. Not sure if the game is the same now though. Maybe I should log in again and check things out.

They've actually made a lot of changes recently regarding that "giving back half" thingy.  I think it was pretty controversial and to be honest I still don't understand all the details of what went down.  In any case, I recommend LucyLuck as a mentor, she's almost always online.

I was wondering if this was allowed to begin with. Essentially it results in people buying referrals (who might otherwise not be using them).

It was certainly allowed, and changing it was quite controversial.  One of the main issues was that mid-level mentors supposedly couldn't get any students because high-level mentors gained so much more on the diff between the levels of themself and their students that splitting that difference made a big difference.  If you were a level 3 student and had a level 11 mentor then you made half of the diff between level 3 and 11, but if you had a level 6 mentor, you only got back half of the diff between 3 and 6. 

I'm not as active on there as I used to be, in fact, I'd love to hear offers on my level 8 account.

[ranlo]

Yeah, Umuri was my mentor also. I would definitely recommend him if he's still there. But it's been so long since I logged into DT. Umuri was good about explaining the games and also gave you half of what he earned from being your mentor. He clued me into the secrets the seed planting game, the waterwheel, the air balloons and the wishing well. He really helped me to level up and unlock the higher level islands. Not sure if the game is the same now though. Maybe I should log in again and check things out.

They've actually made a lot of changes recently regarding that "giving back half" thingy.  I think it was pretty controversial and to be honest I still don't understand all the details of what went down.  In any case, I recommend LucyLuck as a mentor, she's almost always online.

I was wondering if this was allowed to begin with. Essentially it results in people buying referrals (who might otherwise not be using them).

It was certainly allowed, and changing it was quite controversial.  One of the main issues was that mid-level mentors supposedly couldn't get any students because high-level mentors gained so much more on the diff between the levels of themself and their students that splitting that difference made a big difference.  If you were a level 3 student and had a level 11 mentor then you made half of the diff between level 3 and 11, but if you had a level 6 mentor, you only got back half of the diff between 3 and 6. 

I'm not as active on there as I used to be, in fact, I'd love to hear offers on my level 8 account.

Ahhh, that does make sense. I was somewhat off and on the game as time went on myself, mostly there for socializing (not a huge gambler ).

[BitMaxz]

Do you have anyway to have a promo key and also get free waters?
I'm always lost in rice ponds and i'm stuck on this task...
Guys can i make another account and start new again?

[ranlo]

Do you have anyway to have a promo key and also get free waters?
I'm always lost in rice ponds and i'm stuck on this task...
Guys can i make another account and start new again?

There are no rules against multiple accounts. Multiple players have alts.

[lite]

Do you have anyway to have a promo key and also get free waters?
I'm always lost in rice ponds and i'm stuck on this task...
Guys can i make another account and start new again?

There are no rules against multiple accounts. Multiple players have alts.

There are a lot of rules against multiple accounts now,you can use only one(main) account to get free gifts/water. you can have as many as alts you want but they won't be able to get free gifts. 

[tradoz]

Do you have anyway to have a promo key and also get free waters?
I'm always lost in rice ponds and i'm stuck on this task...
Guys can i make another account and start new again?

There are no rules against multiple accounts. Multiple players have alts.

There are a lot of rules against multiple accounts now,you can use only one(main) account to get free gifts/water. you can have as many as alts you want but they won't be able to get free gifts. 

Yes that is true just first account will able to get free gifts from soldiers statue and any alt account using same pc won't able to claim faucet there.

[BitMaxz]

Do you have anyway to have a promo key and also get free waters?
I'm always lost in rice ponds and i'm stuck on this task...
Guys can i make another account and start new again?

There are no rules against multiple accounts. Multiple players have alts.

There are a lot of rules against multiple accounts now,you can use only one(main) account to get free gifts/water. you can have as many as alts you want but they won't be able to get free gifts. 

Ouch so my alt account will not recieve any waters and gifts.
That's why i cant recieve waters from my mentor.. i think i will use the main because alt account is worthless....
Guys where can get promo code?
Can i get it in joining a group?
Some statues saying that you are not in the group.

[GreenGremlim]

Depends what promo code u mean, since u already have an account u can only get it for grindabit and egenesis soldiers. bittoclick and globe soldiers code needs to be put when creating account, so worthless for you now

[ranlo]

Depends what promo code u mean, since u already have an account u can only get it for grindabit and egenesis soldiers. bittoclick and globe soldiers code needs to be put when creating account, so worthless for you now

Interesting. I also wasn't aware of the claiming differences. But what's this about waters? I had someone give me some a long time ago but still don't get where they came from.

[GreenGremlim]

Mineral waters is like a giveaway that mentors get daily to give to new/low level players.

[HappyScamp]

Regarding the value of accounts, an interesting thing occurred today.

4 hours before the weekly lottery, doeboy put his 11-going-on-12 account, and a second level 8 account, up for auction, or attempted to.  At first he said he would take the best offer no matter how low, and the auction would end at the weekly drawing.  But a few minutes later he said that if the best offer wasn't high enough, he would wait till the monthly drawing, as he has 500 (or so) tickets.  (Which suggests to me that he is busted, was waiting for the weekly lottery, and ready to bail)

He listed the assets.... two 100 btm ribbons, one 300 ribbon, access to Toa for both accounts, some unremembered value of DT, and I think that that was it, along with the 500 tickets.

So what is the value of the account really?

Well, there is nothing solid here, but it seems reasonable to value the ribbons at 500 btm - the 5% of the supposed house take on future ribbons wagers, or 475 btm.

(We don't know just how much the house takes with those, really.  You win something when you grab one, but it has never been much more than the bet in my experience, so you have to survive two tries just to get your money back.  But on every bet the house takes 50%, if I understand it rightly)

But we might reasonably say 475 btm.

as for the tickets, they are also questionable, but you could say that, based on last month's drawing having nearly 4000 tickets, his ticket package is worth 1/8 BTC or 125 btm.

The value of going to Toa seems to be entirely an intangible asset.  I have never heard of Toa having anything that the other islands don't, so the only thing about going to Tao is that others can't.  Which in reality is no value at all.

The level 8 account, if you have an 11, is no value at all except for what you might be able to sell it for, and as we see, account sales are pretty flat (I think LucyLuck recently sold hers, no idea for how much.)

So it seems like a reasonable value would be 600 btm if you wanted to risk the tickets.  A reasonable auction bid (which itself is a gamble), would be 400 btm.

doeboy, I am sure, would think much differently.  He went through a lot of BTC to get to that level.  But what does not come with the account is the fun (and, more, the disappointment) he had going through those 11 levels.

A level 8 account is nice because you can go to Tiki and party with friends and not too many  alts will show up.  And it's the best bar in the game.  But I have never heard of any advantage to being at levels beyond that.   They can throw tourneys, but, you can get your mentor to do that for you if you care too.

Just some thoughts.

Totally separately, I wonder why so much of Tiki is undeveloped?

Also, X seems to be a total failure.  You never see people hanging out there at the bar, which is pretty lame itself.  They just go there to look for herbs.  Same, really, at Xinren, except for the voting booth and the cows.  Much of Xinren was never developed as well.  It used to have a good bar I am told, but for some reason Di wanted to drive people to the 'governed' islands.

I get the impression that what ever else it may be, DT is an ongoing sociological experiment.

~All for tonight!

[tspacepilot]

Regarding the value of accounts, an interesting thing occurred today.

4 hours before the weekly lottery, doeboy put his 11-going-on-12 account, and a second level 8 account, up for auction, or attempted to.  At first he said he would take the best offer no matter how low, and the auction would end at the weekly drawing.  But a few minutes later he said that if the best offer wasn't high enough, he would wait till the monthly drawing, as he has 500 (or so) tickets.  (Which suggests to me that he is busted, was waiting for the weekly lottery, and ready to bail)

He listed the assets.... two 100 btm ribbons, one 300 ribbon, access to Toa for both accounts, some unremembered value of DT, and I think that that was it, along with the 500 tickets.

So what is the value of the account really?

Well, there is nothing solid here, but it seems reasonable to value the ribbons at 500 btm - the 5% of the supposed house take on future ribbons wagers, or 475 btm.

(We don't know just how much the house takes with those, really.  You win something when you grab one, but it has never been much more than the bet in my experience, so you have to survive two tries just to get your money back.  But on every bet the house takes 50%, if I understand it rightly)

But we might reasonably say 475 btm.

as for the tickets, they are also questionable, but you could say that, based on last month's drawing having nearly 4000 tickets, his ticket package is worth 1/8 BTC or 125 btm.

The value of going to Toa seems to be entirely an intangible asset.  I have never heard of Toa having anything that the other islands don't, so the only thing about going to Tao is that others can't.  Which in reality is no value at all.

The level 8 account, if you have an 11, is no value at all except for what you might be able to sell it for, and as we see, account sales are pretty flat (I think LucyLuck recently sold hers, no idea for how much.)

So it seems like a reasonable value would be 600 btm if you wanted to risk the tickets.  A reasonable auction bid (which itself is a gamble), would be 400 btm.

doeboy, I am sure, would think much differently.  He went through a lot of BTC to get to that level.  But what does not come with the account is the fun (and, more, the disappointment) he had going through those 11 levels.

A level 8 account is nice because you can go to Tiki and party with friends and not too many  alts will show up.  And it's the best bar in the game.  But I have never heard of any advantage to being at levels beyond that.   They can throw tourneys, but, you can get your mentor to do that for you if you care too.

Just some thoughts.

Totally separately, I wonder why so much of Tiki is undeveloped?

Also, X seems to be a total failure.  You never see people hanging out there at the bar, which is pretty lame itself.  They just go there to look for herbs.  Same, really, at Xinren, except for the voting booth and the cows.  Much of Xinren was never developed as well.  It used to have a good bar I am told, but for some reason Di wanted to drive people to the 'governed' islands.

I get the impression that what ever else it may be, DT is an ongoing sociological experiment.

~All for tonight!

An interesting writeup, but I think one thing you're not really accounting for is the level of the buyer.  You properly point out that if you have a level 11 account, then a level 8 account isn't really getting you anything you don't already have.  But the reverse is true for someone bidding on the package.  If you're a level 2 and you don't even collect DT yet then, if you're unlucky, you might lose 200-400BTM just trying to get to level 3 to get into the DT scheme.  However, as you say, if you already have a high-level account, then this isn't really a factor.  So, what i'd add to your analysis is that the delta between the level of a bidder and the level of the account to be sold has to be a factor in the value of the account.

[ranlo]

Regarding the value of accounts, an interesting thing occurred today.

4 hours before the weekly lottery, doeboy put his 11-going-on-12 account, and a second level 8 account, up for auction, or attempted to.  At first he said he would take the best offer no matter how low, and the auction would end at the weekly drawing.  But a few minutes later he said that if the best offer wasn't high enough, he would wait till the monthly drawing, as he has 500 (or so) tickets.  (Which suggests to me that he is busted, was waiting for the weekly lottery, and ready to bail)

He listed the assets.... two 100 btm ribbons, one 300 ribbon, access to Toa for both accounts, some unremembered value of DT, and I think that that was it, along with the 500 tickets.

So what is the value of the account really?

Well, there is nothing solid here, but it seems reasonable to value the ribbons at 500 btm - the 5% of the supposed house take on future ribbons wagers, or 475 btm.

(We don't know just how much the house takes with those, really.  You win something when you grab one, but it has never been much more than the bet in my experience, so you have to survive two tries just to get your money back.  But on every bet the house takes 50%, if I understand it rightly)

But we might reasonably say 475 btm.

as for the tickets, they are also questionable, but you could say that, based on last month's drawing having nearly 4000 tickets, his ticket package is worth 1/8 BTC or 125 btm.

The value of going to Toa seems to be entirely an intangible asset.  I have never heard of Toa having anything that the other islands don't, so the only thing about going to Tao is that others can't.  Which in reality is no value at all.

The level 8 account, if you have an 11, is no value at all except for what you might be able to sell it for, and as we see, account sales are pretty flat (I think LucyLuck recently sold hers, no idea for how much.)

So it seems like a reasonable value would be 600 btm if you wanted to risk the tickets.  A reasonable auction bid (which itself is a gamble), would be 400 btm.

doeboy, I am sure, would think much differently.  He went through a lot of BTC to get to that level.  But what does not come with the account is the fun (and, more, the disappointment) he had going through those 11 levels.

A level 8 account is nice because you can go to Tiki and party with friends and not too many  alts will show up.  And it's the best bar in the game.  But I have never heard of any advantage to being at levels beyond that.   They can throw tourneys, but, you can get your mentor to do that for you if you care too.

Just some thoughts.

Totally separately, I wonder why so much of Tiki is undeveloped?

Also, X seems to be a total failure.  You never see people hanging out there at the bar, which is pretty lame itself.  They just go there to look for herbs.  Same, really, at Xinren, except for the voting booth and the cows.  Much of Xinren was never developed as well.  It used to have a good bar I am told, but for some reason Di wanted to drive people to the 'governed' islands.

I get the impression that what ever else it may be, DT is an ongoing sociological experiment.

~All for tonight!

An interesting writeup, but I think one thing you're not really accounting for is the level of the buyer.  You properly point out that if you have a level 11 account, then a level 8 account isn't really getting you anything you don't already have.  But the reverse is true for someone bidding on the package.  If you're a level 2 and you don't even collect DT yet then, if you're unlucky, you might lose 200-400BTM just trying to get to level 3 to get into the DT scheme.  However, as you say, if you already have a high-level account, then this isn't really a factor.  So, what i'd add to your analysis is that the delta between the level of a bidder and the level of the account to be sold has to be a factor in the value of the account.

Doesn't the 11 also have a higher rakeback than the 8, giving it even more value? That in itself has worth -- higher rakeback = less money lost = more money gained.

[tspacepilot]

Doesn't the 11 also have a higher rakeback than the 8, giving it even more value? That in itself has worth -- higher rakeback = less money lost = more money gained.

Yes, indeed, that's what I was referring to.  If you already have an 11, then having an 8 doesn't help you because you do your bets with the 11 and get the better rakeback.  However, if you don't, then the lower your account currently has to correspond to an increase in the value of an account you're bidding on.  If you have level 7 and you're bidding on an 8 that actually might not be as valuable to you to win in an auction as someone with a level 6 bidding on that same 8, etc.

[sartorpc]

I would like to try the game is it already opened for everyone? The idea is very original mixing the mmo concept and a casino with bitcoin, ive seen this many times before but with no real money (ingame currency) that had no real value.