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[cicciobtc]

ndings Drivers after 12 of 20 races:

Vettel          220    gap
Hamilton    213       -7
Bottas         179     -41
Ricciardo    132     -88
Raikkonen   128    -92
Verstappen   67   -153
Perez             56    -164
Ocon              47    -173
Sainz              36    -184
Hulkenberg    34   -186




Standings Teams after 12 of 20 races:

Mercedes   392    gap
Ferrari         348    -44
Red Bull      199 
Force India 103
Williams       45
Toro Rosso  40
Haas             35 
Renault         34
McLaren       11
Sauber            5

Head to head between Hamilton and Vettel (only 7 points) , now Bottas(-41 points) seems definitely out of the games and finally can also help his teammate.

[azguard]

There is a big rumor that Williams wants Fernando Alonso for the next season. Lance Stroll need an old-timer alongside to get better. But will be Williams better team for Alonso than McLaren? William is weaker and weaker now. Every team has some improvements, but it seems like in Williams they are doing something wrong.

Alonso will definitely leave McLaren for sure. Team that are rumored to be for him besides Wiliams are Reno and Mercedes. Dont know how he will be in Mercedes cuz he left McLaren last time due to fight with Lewis. This one is hard to back up, for other teams think that its very possible reason they have better engine and the car from current McLaren one. This is hard for Alonso seeing him so only cuz power unit when down twice in last two races, must say this is frustrating to the rooftop.

Still he announced that he will say after next race what he will do will he stay in Formula 1 or leave. It would be shame to see him leave but think he is also considering to go in INDY championship cuz he almost won INDY 500 he lead most of the race but engine blow up.

[dustboy]

Pole Position Silverstone Motogp top 10:

1. MARQUEZ      1:59:941
2. ROSSI                +0:084
3. CRUTCHLOW   +0:165
4. VINALES           +0:400
5. LORENZO         +0:458
6. DOVIZIOSO      +0:631
7. PEDROSA         +0:637
8. ZARCO              +0:681
9. ESPARGARO    +0:823
10. FOLGER          +0:888

Record of track for Marquez but V. Rossi is very close!

Unlucky day for Marquez, engine blow made him unable to continue the race while actually he could compete for the 1st position. This also made him down to 2nd position on the standing drivers list with 9 points gap against Dovizioso.
Good thing is that this makes the Championship battle become more interesting. 

[cicciobtc]

Standing MotoGP after 12 of 18 races:

1)Dovizioso   183    gap
2)Marquez     174       -9
3)Vinales        170     -13
4)Rossi           157     -26
5)Pedrosa      148     -35
   
6)Zarco          109      -74
7)Lorenzo        90      -93
8 )Crutchlow   89      -94
9)Folger           77    -107
10)Petrucci     75    -108

Unbelievable Dovizioso has won on an unfavorable track and is now incredibly first in the world championship! Valentino Rossi wasted a great chance, winning this race would have reduced his gap to 12 points first place!
 This year the motogp is really interesting and funky!

[tokeweed]

There is a big rumor that Williams wants Fernando Alonso for the next season. Lance Stroll need an old-timer alongside to get better. But will be Williams better team for Alonso than McLaren? William is weaker and weaker now. Every team has some improvements, but it seems like in Williams they are doing something wrong.

Alonso will definitely leave McLaren for sure. Team that are rumored to be for him besides Wiliams are Reno and Mercedes. Dont know how he will be in Mercedes cuz he left McLaren last time due to fight with Lewis. This one is hard to back up, for other teams think that its very possible reason they have better engine and the car from current McLaren one. This is hard for Alonso seeing him so only cuz power unit when down twice in last two races, must say this is frustrating to the rooftop.

Still he announced that he will say after next race what he will do will he stay in Formula 1 or leave. It would be shame to see him leave but think he is also considering to go in INDY championship cuz he almost won INDY 500 he lead most of the race but engine blow up.

And don't forget that Hamilton also has dibs on who to choose as his team mate.  It's all stipulated in his contract.  So yeah, Alonso to Merc is very much close to zero.  And with Vettel and Raikonen having been given new contracts, it's clear they don't want him.

But there's news that Verstappen is unhappy at RBR.  If he leaves we may see Alonso take the spot.  That leaves Verstappen...  I guess we will have to wait if Merc extends Bottas' contract at the end of the season.  If they don't then we may see Verstappen take Bottas' spot.

[ArdiPrabowo]

Standing MotoGP after 12 of 18 races:

1)Dovizioso   183    gap
2)Marquez     174       -9
3)Vinales        170     -13
4)Rossi           157     -26
5)Pedrosa      148     -35
   
6)Zarco          109      -74
7)Lorenzo        90      -93
8 )Crutchlow   89      -94
9)Folger           77    -107
10)Petrucci     75    -108

Unbelievable Dovizioso has won on an unfavorable track and is now incredibly first in the world championship! Valentino Rossi wasted a great chance, winning this race would have reduced his gap to 12 points first place!
 This year the motogp is really interesting and funky!

dovizioso can batle championship this season, because about compound tyres , but ducati still incraese performance,
iam not believe about lorenzo performance can't batle championship

6 series, with 2 series in spain and one series in mizano italy, if next race in mizano, dovi can win again, i think dovi can big chance to win world championship this season

[mnixxo]

There is a big rumor that Williams wants Fernando Alonso for the next season. Lance Stroll need an old-timer alongside to get better. But will be Williams better team for Alonso than McLaren? William is weaker and weaker now. Every team has some improvements, but it seems like in Williams they are doing something wrong.

Alonso will definitely leave McLaren for sure. Team that are rumored to be for him besides Wiliams are Reno and Mercedes. Dont know how he will be in Mercedes cuz he left McLaren last time due to fight with Lewis. This one is hard to back up, for other teams think that its very possible reason they have better engine and the car from current McLaren one. This is hard for Alonso seeing him so only cuz power unit when down twice in last two races, must say this is frustrating to the rooftop.

Still he announced that he will say after next race what he will do will he stay in Formula 1 or leave. It would be shame to see him leave but think he is also considering to go in INDY championship cuz he almost won INDY 500 he lead most of the race but engine blow up.

And don't forget that Hamilton also has dibs on who to choose as his team mate.  It's all stipulated in his contract.  So yeah, Alonso to Merc is very much close to zero.  And with Vettel and Raikonen having been given new contracts, it's clear they don't want him.

But there's news that Verstappen is unhappy at RBR.  If he leaves we may see Alonso take the spot.  That leaves Verstappen...  I guess we will have to wait if Merc extends Bottas' contract at the end of the season.  If they don't then we may see Verstappen take Bottas' spot.

I also think Alonso won't stay in McLaren for the next season. For me is most likely he will sign contact with Williams. Hamilton + Verstappen is possible in Mercedes. But Verstappen's seat will take probably Sainz. But if Mercedes won't extends Bottas' contract what will be with him? Where can Bottas be in the next season?

[pereira4]

There is a big rumor that Williams wants Fernando Alonso for the next season. Lance Stroll need an old-timer alongside to get better. But will be Williams better team for Alonso than McLaren? William is weaker and weaker now. Every team has some improvements, but it seems like in Williams they are doing something wrong.

Alonso will definitely leave McLaren for sure. Team that are rumored to be for him besides Wiliams are Reno and Mercedes. Dont know how he will be in Mercedes cuz he left McLaren last time due to fight with Lewis. This one is hard to back up, for other teams think that its very possible reason they have better engine and the car from current McLaren one. This is hard for Alonso seeing him so only cuz power unit when down twice in last two races, must say this is frustrating to the rooftop.

Still he announced that he will say after next race what he will do will he stay in Formula 1 or leave. It would be shame to see him leave but think he is also considering to go in INDY championship cuz he almost won INDY 500 he lead most of the race but engine blow up.

Alonso wants to win the Indy 500 and 24h of LeMans in order to have the three big motorsports championships. Im sure that if next year he doesn't have a competitive car he will try either Indy500 again or LeMans. Probably Indy500 because now he got the experience from the previous year, he can definitely win if the car doesn't fail again.

Current championship I can't decide if Vettel or Hamilton will win.

[cicciobtc]

This week there is the Gp d'Italia in Monza!
The ferrari runs at home but this also seems like a favorable track for the Mercedes.

Here are the quotes of this Gp:

Hamilton     @1.65
Vettel           @3.30
Bottas          @5.50
Raikkonen  @12.00
Ricciardo    @35.00
Verstappen @50.00

Despite the 7-points advantage for Vettel, Hamilton is also favored for the victory of the World Championship:

Hamilton @1.60
Vettel       @2.30
Bottas     @30.00

[siti25]

Standing MotoGP after 12 of 18 races:

1)Dovizioso   183    gap
2)Marquez     174       -9
3)Vinales        170     -13
4)Rossi           157     -26
5)Pedrosa      148     -35
   
6)Zarco          109      -74
7)Lorenzo        90      -93
8 )Crutchlow   89      -94
9)Folger           77    -107
10)Petrucci     75    -108

Unbelievable Dovizioso has won on an unfavorable track and is now incredibly first in the world championship! Valentino Rossi wasted a great chance, winning this race would have reduced his gap to 12 points first place!
 This year the motogp is really interesting and funky!

dovizioso can batle championship this season, because about compound tyres , but ducati still incraese performance,
iam not believe about lorenzo performance can't batle championship

6 series, with 2 series in spain and one series in mizano italy, if next race in mizano, dovi can win again, i think dovi can big chance to win world championship this season

Dovizioso provides excellent resistance this season. Dovi makes the competition to become a champion still looks great. This season there is no chance for Valentino Rossi to become champion, but the competition still always looks great. Although not as good as last season, but still interesting to watch.

[cicciobtc]

Valentino Rossi has broken his tibia and fibula in an enduro training accident in Italy...

Most likely his season is over, surely he is out of the games for the victory of the world championship

[pereira4]

Valentino Rossi has broken his tibia and fibula in an enduro training accident in Italy...

Most likely his season is over, surely he is out of the games for the victory of the world championship

That's unfortunate... he has been trying so hard for the past few years trying to get his last championship, but he always ends up having bad luck.

I think he should just retire. Why keep risking your life at such at late age? It's a good time to sit back and enjoy your millions, but then again, I guess that's why they are so good, they really like what they do for a living, unlike most people.

[cicciobtc]

Valentino Rossi has broken his tibia and fibula in an enduro training accident in Italy...

Most likely his season is over, surely he is out of the games for the victory of the world championship

That's unfortunate... he has been trying so hard for the past few years trying to get his last championship, but he always ends up having bad luck.

I think he should just retire. Why keep risking your life at such at late age? It's a good time to sit back and enjoy your millions, but then again, I guess that's why they are so good, they really like what they do for a living, unlike most people.

Is confirmed, he will be off the races for at least 30/40 days.

He will surely miss 2 Gp: Misano (10 September) and Aragon (24 September). He could return to Motegi in Japan (October 15)

[BitcoinSupremo]

This week there is the Gp d'Italia in Monza!
The ferrari runs at home but this also seems like a favorable track for the Mercedes.

Here are the quotes of this Gp:

Hamilton     @1.65
Vettel           @3.30
Bottas          @5.50
Raikkonen  @12.00
Ricciardo    @35.00
Verstappen @50.00

Despite the 7-points advantage for Vettel, Hamilton is also favored for the victory of the World Championship:

Hamilton @1.60
Vettel       @2.30
Bottas     @30.00

Hmm, that 5.50 odd of Bottas to win the race is looking very inviting and very tempting to me. I think this guy is a lot underrated because he has not done well in the last few races. I am going to place a minimal bet on him today and I wish he will have a good car for the weekend. In fast tracks like Monza it is always favorite the Mercedes engine to win races. But considering that the safety car I am sure will be at least once here, betting 0.001 on Verstapen is not a bad idea either.

[cicciobtc]

Top 10 times Free Practice Gp Monza:


1   Valtteri Bottas   Mercedes 1’21″406   
2   Lewis Hamilton   Mercedes 1’21″462   
3   Sebastian Vettel   Ferrari 1’21″546   
4   Kimi Raikkonen   Ferrari 1’21″804   

5   Max Verstappen   Red Bull 1’22″409   
6   Daniel Ricciardo   Red Bull 1’22″752   
7   Stoffel VandoorneMcLaren 1’22″947   
8   Fernando Alonso   McLaren  1’22″968   
9   Esteban Ocon   Force India 1’22″977   
10   Felipe Massa           Williams 1’22″985
 
In addition, both Red Bull will be penalized for updates to power units: Ricciardo will be penalized for 20 positions while Verstappen  15 positions.
Also, Sainz (Toro Rosso) will  be penalized for 10 positions.

[mnixxo]

This week there is the Gp d'Italia in Monza!
The ferrari runs at home but this also seems like a favorable track for the Mercedes.

Here are the quotes of this Gp:

Hamilton     @1.65
Vettel           @3.30
Bottas          @5.50
Raikkonen  @12.00
Ricciardo    @35.00
Verstappen @50.00

Despite the 7-points advantage for Vettel, Hamilton is also favored for the victory of the World Championship:

Hamilton @1.60
Vettel       @2.30
Bottas     @30.00

Hmm, that 5.50 odd of Bottas to win the race is looking very inviting and very tempting to me. I think this guy is a lot underrated because he has not done well in the last few races. I am going to place a minimal bet on him today and I wish he will have a good car for the weekend. In fast tracks like Monza it is always favorite the Mercedes engine to win races. But considering that the safety car I am sure will be at least once here, betting 0.001 on Verstapen is not a bad idea either.

I agree with you. Mercedes is big favorite here in Monza. It is a pity with penalized Red Bull cars. So betting Verstappen isn't now good idea. And another 5 place for Ricciardo, so he will be penalized for 25 positions.

[bbc.reporter]

It is a good time to bet on Sebastian in Monza. I reckon that Ferrari will do something more and try to win harder for their home race. They also cannot have Lewis get the lead in the championship.

My prediction, Sebastian will take FP3 and pole position in qualifying.

[cicciobtc]

It is a good time to bet on Sebastian in Monza. I reckon that Ferrari will do something more and try to win harder for their home race. They also cannot have Lewis get the lead in the championship.

My prediction, Sebastian will take FP3 and pole position in qualifying.

Today it rains a lot at Monza and surely the pole position will be wet, in the fp3 all pilots are using full wet.
Rain can make the pole position unpredictable

[mnixxo]

It is a good time to bet on Sebastian in Monza. I reckon that Ferrari will do something more and try to win harder for their home race. They also cannot have Lewis get the lead in the championship.

My prediction, Sebastian will take FP3 and pole position in qualifying.

Today it rains a lot at Monza and surely the pole position will be wet, in the fp3 all pilots are using full wet.
Rain can make the pole position unpredictable

It is raining and really wet. grosjean (haas) is out now. red flag. this qualification will be very interesting.

[mnixxo]

Starting grid Monza 2017

1. L. Hamilton - Mercedes
2. L. Stroll - Willliams
3. E. Ocon - Force India
4. V. Bottas - Mercedes
5. K. Raikkonen - Ferrari
6. S. Vettel - Ferrari
7. F. Massa - Williams
8. S. Vandoorne - McLaren
9. S. Perez - Force India
10. D. Kvyat - Toro Rosso
11. K. Magnussen - Haas
12. M. Ericsson - Sauber
13. P. Wehrlein - Sauber
14. N. Hulkenberg - Renault
15. M. Verstappen - Red Bull
16. C. Sainz Jr. - Toro Rosso
17. D. Ricciardo - Red Bull
18. J. Palmer - Renault
19. F. Alonso - McLaren
20. R. Grosjean - Haas

Start of the GP will be very exciting.