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[joniboini]

Wednesday (08/14/2019), Miller finally signed a contract renewal with Pramac Ducati. He will continue to strengthen Ducati until the end of the 2020 MotoGP season.

Good to hear Miller is going to continue riding. He's a good rider imo. Such a shame he didn't have a good bike to compete with other riders. If only he can get a bike like Dovi's then he probably could fight for the top 4.

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[slocker]

With so many speculation and guesing on who will be where in MotoGP, this could be list of them so far (Will update this from time to time)

Repsol Honda:
Marc Marquez (End of 2020)
Jorge Lorenzo (End of 2020)

Monster Yamaha:
Maverick Vinales (End of 2020)
Valentino Rossi (End of 2020)

Ducati Team:
Andrea Dovizioso (End of 2020)
Danilo Petrucci (End of 2020)

Suzuki:
Alex Rins (End of 2020)
Joan Mir (End of 2020)

Red Bull KTM:
* Johann Zarco (End of 2020) (canceled contract)
Pol Espargaro (End of 2020)

Aprilia Gresini:
Aleix Espargaro (End of 2020)
Andrea Iannone (End of 2020)

Tech3 KTM:
Miguel Oliveira (KTM contract, end of 2020)
Hafizh Syahrin (Tech3 contract, end of 2019) (canceled contract)
Brad Binder (KTM contract, End of 2020)

LCR Honda:
Cal Crutchlow (HRC contract, end of 2020)
* Takaaki Nakagami (HRC contract, end of 2019)

Pramac Ducati:
Francesco Bagnaia (Ducati contract, end of 2020)
Jack Miller (Ducati contract, end of 2020)

Avintia Racing
Karel Abraham (End of 2020)
Tito Rabat (End of 2021)

Petronas Yamaha Sepang Team:
Franco Morbidelli (End of 2020)
Fabio Quartararo (End of 2020)

* Contract expires at end of 2019, new deal/replacement yet to be announced.

[maculeth]

Wednesday (08/14/2019), Miller finally signed a contract renewal with Pramac Ducati. He will continue to strengthen Ducati until the end of the 2020 MotoGP season.

Good to hear Miller is going to continue riding. He's a good rider imo. Such a shame he didn't have a good bike to compete with other riders. If only he can get a bike like Dovi's then he probably could fight for the top 4.

not only is the DUCATI motorcycle less good, but because the ducati motor is sometimes still difficult to control

[maculeth]

Jorge Lorenzo will certainly appear in the British MotoGP race. Rider Repsol Honda comeback after recovering from an injury suffered. Lorenzo said if the recovery time is enough time. After nearly two months of absence, the three-time world champion is now claiming to be ready to bring back the Honda RC213V in the British MotoGP.

[swogerino]

Jorge Lorenzo will certainly appear in the British MotoGP race. Rider Repsol Honda comeback after recovering from an injury suffered. Lorenzo said if the recovery time is enough time. After nearly two months of absence, the three-time world champion is now claiming to be ready to bring back the Honda RC213V in the British MotoGP.

I think that Lorenzo era is gone now,he came as the giant to beat Rossi and company in his beginnings and the Lorenzo's land flags proved that he had the ability to do so.Unfortunately after Simoncelli death he is not the same as he was truly shocked by Simoncelli death and his performance has come in going down.The only one who can beat Marquez is Dovizioso but he is not constant in his driving style.

[joniboini]

I think that Lorenzo era is gone now,he came as the giant to beat Rossi and company in his beginnings and the Lorenzo's land flags proved that he had the ability to do so.Unfortunately after Simoncelli death he is not the same as he was truly shocked by Simoncelli death and his performance has come in going down.The only one who can beat Marquez is Dovizioso but he is not constant in his driving style.

I don't really think Simoncelli death is the cause. On top of that, Lorenzo is not that 'emotional' and I doubt any rider would drop their performance because they lost their teammate or rival.

Lorenzo is having a hard time adapting to his new motorbike and his fitness is probably not as good as the past few years. And this is why Rossi is really amazing because he can still be consistent even though not always win a race when he's already 40 years old or so.

If Lorenzo can be as fit as before, and he can find the best setting for his bike, he should be able to compete with the top 3 again.

[slocker]

I think that Lorenzo era is gone now,he came as the giant to beat Rossi and company in his beginnings and the Lorenzo's land flags proved that he had the ability to do so.Unfortunately after Simoncelli death he is not the same as he was truly shocked by Simoncelli death and his performance has come in going down.The only one who can beat Marquez is Dovizioso but he is not constant in his driving style.

I don't really think Simoncelli death is the cause. On top of that, Lorenzo is not that 'emotional' and I doubt any rider would drop their performance because they lost their teammate or rival.

Lorenzo is having a hard time adapting to his new motorbike and his fitness is probably not as good as the past few years. And this is why Rossi is really amazing because he can still be consistent even though not always win a race when he's already 40 years old or so.

If Lorenzo can be as fit as before, and he can find the best setting for his bike, he should be able to compete with the top 3 again.

When you mentioned Simoncelli, Rossi was person who took most of that. There were friend real ones. On Lorenzo topic he is struggling very much since last MotoGP title back in 2015. He cant find rhythm for race and when he do he make mistake. My opinion is that if he dont do anything in next season he will be replaced. On other hand we have veteran Rossi, he tries and tries, but he I must say this losing slowly everything he had. We have younger and more perspective drivers, and no matter that he have most fans and everybody comes to see him think that next season will be over for him.

[maculeth]

Cal Crutchlow and Maverick Vinales visit Stamford Bridge on Wednesday (8/21/2019). Vinales and Crutchlow met with Kepa Arrizabalaga at Stamford Bridge. The three had a chance to chat at Chelsea headquarters. Kepa invites them to surround Stamford Bridge. Vinales had shown his expertise in processing the ball in the grass of the Stadium located in London.

[maculeth]

Jorge Lorenzo will certainly appear in the British MotoGP race. Rider Repsol Honda comeback after recovering from an injury suffered. Lorenzo said if the recovery time is enough time. After nearly two months of absence, the three-time world champion is now claiming to be ready to bring back the Honda RC213V in the British MotoGP.

I think that Lorenzo era is gone now,he came as the giant to beat Rossi and company in his beginnings and the Lorenzo's land flags proved that he had the ability to do so.Unfortunately after Simoncelli death he is not the same as he was truly shocked by Simoncelli death and his performance has come in going down.The only one who can beat Marquez is Dovizioso but he is not constant in his driving style.

I agree, but it seems simoncelli's death is not so influential with the performance of Lorenzo, the proof he can still be world champion in 2015, despite a bit of controversy, the luck factor also seems not to side with Dovi.

[slocker]

When all this is put together we had era of Rossi, then we had Stoner and Lorenzo, how is Marquez era. He is young for this sport and fast. Last race was one of the epic ones no matter if Ducati won the race. Still for this season is over Marquez will be again champ. Thing could change if he crash in next two races, but think at this point its not possible only if he make some mistake. On other hand it could be good for championship but my humble opinion on this is that he took another title.

[coinlocket$]

When all this is put together we had era of Rossi, then we had Stoner and Lorenzo, how is Marquez era. He is young for this sport and fast. Last race was one of the epic ones no matter if Ducati won the race. Still for this season is over Marquez will be again champ. Thing could change if he crash in next two races, but think at this point its not possible only if he make some mistake. On other hand it could be good for championship but my humble opinion on this is that he took another title.

Well, the Stoner era was short.

Was Stoner really good or was he good only cause on that time they got 2 brands of wheels and he got the right one?

None will ever know since he left MOTOGP very young, he was under 30 maybe even under 25 when he left a few years ago.

[Naida_BR]

When all this is put together we had era of Rossi, then we had Stoner and Lorenzo, how is Marquez era. He is young for this sport and fast. Last race was one of the epic ones no matter if Ducati won the race. Still for this season is over Marquez will be again champ. Thing could change if he crash in next two races, but think at this point its not possible only if he make some mistake. On other hand it could be good for championship but my humble opinion on this is that he took another title.

Well, the Stoner era was short.

Was Stoner really good or was he good only cause on that time they got 2 brands of wheels and he got the right one?

None will ever know since he left MOTOGP very young, he was under 30 maybe even under 25 when he left a few years ago.

Stoner's era was so short as Hayden's.
I think that Stoner had a bright future as a driver. He was also lucky that he joined Ducati on their best times, when the bike was the best in the championship. The bike plays vital role in the dominance of the league.

[swogerino]

When all this is put together we had era of Rossi, then we had Stoner and Lorenzo, how is Marquez era. He is young for this sport and fast. Last race was one of the epic ones no matter if Ducati won the race. Still for this season is over Marquez will be again champ. Thing could change if he crash in next two races, but think at this point its not possible only if he make some mistake. On other hand it could be good for championship but my humble opinion on this is that he took another title.

Well, the Stoner era was short.

Was Stoner really good or was he good only cause on that time they got 2 brands of wheels and he got the right one?

None will ever know since he left MOTOGP very young, he was under 30 maybe even under 25 when he left a few years ago.

He was exactly 27 years old when he left after winning the MotoGp,he said he will pursue a normal family life at that time.He was a good driver but that's all,he was lucky to be on the best bike at that time,everyone else who came after him like Lorenzo and Marquez are much better riders.

[DaveF]

He was exactly 27 years old when he left after winning the MotoGp,he said he will pursue a normal family life at that time.He was a good driver but that's all,he was lucky to be on the best bike at that time,everyone else who came after him like Lorenzo and Marquez are much better riders.

Very true, I know I said it many many times, this is why I love the BMW boxer cup races.
Everyone has the same bike, it's ALL about the rider.
No better tech for some people or sticker tires, it's all about skills.

-Dave

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British MotoGP Qualification Results 2019

1. 93 Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 330.2 1'58.168

2. 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 320.4 1'58,596 0.428 / 0.428

3. 43 Jack MILLER AUS Pramac Racing Ducati 329.2 1'58,602 0.434 / 0.006

4. 20 Fabio QUARTARARO FRA Petronas Yamaha SRT Yamaha 316.7 1'58.612 0.444 / 0.010

5. 42 Alex RINS SPA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 325.3 1'58,670 0.502 / 0.058

6. 12 Maverick VIÑALES SPA Monster Energy Yamaha MotoGP Yamaha 320.4 1'58,762 0.594 / 0.092

7. 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Ducati Team Ducati 329.2 1'58,762 0.594

8. 21 Franco MORBIDELLI ITA Petronas Yamaha SRT Yamaha 322.3 1'59.096 0.928 / 0.334

9. 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW GBR LCR Honda CASTROL Honda 329.2 1'59.243 1,075 / 0.147

10. 30 Takaaki NAKAGAMI JPN LCR Honda IDEMITSU Honda 322.3 1'59.427 1,259 / 0.184

11. 9 Danilo PETRUCCI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 327.2 1'59,487 1,319 / 0.060

12. 41 Aleix ESPARGARO SPA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 327.2 1'59,620 1,452 / 0.133

13. Pol ESPARGARO SPA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 321.4 1'59.549 0.605 / 0.359

14. 5 Johann ZARCO FRA Red Bull KTM Factory Racing KTM 322.3 1'59.648 0.704 / 0.099

15. 88 Miguel OLIVEIRA POR Red Bull KTM Tech 3 KTM 319.5 1'59.758 0.814 / 0.110

16. 53 Tito RABAT SPA Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 326.2 1'59.916 0.972 / 0.158

17. 29 Andrea IANNONE ITA Aprilia Racing Team Gresini Aprilia 324.3 2'00,240 1,296 / 0.324

18. 63 Francesco BAGNAIA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 324.3 2'00.362 1.418 / 0.122

19. 50 Sylvain GUINTOLI FRA Team SUZUKI ECSTAR Suzuki 319.5 2'00,660 1,716 / 0.298

20. 55 Hafizh SYAHRIN MAL Red Bull KTM Tech 3 KTM 322.3 2'00,700 1,756 / 0.040

21. 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 324.3 2'01,562 2.618 / 0.862

22. 17 Karel ABRAHAM CZE Reale Avintia Racing Ducati 317.6 2'04,845 5,901 / 3,283

I hope VR46, can provide the best. JL99 seems to have not found the right settings and possibly the effects of the injury.

[joniboini]

Rossi did a tricky last qualification lap. He looks so happy with it. Good for him, at least he can challenge and have a fight for the podium.

I hope Marquez won't 'run away' like what he did in almost every race. Sure he wins, but it's not fun to watch.

[Naida_BR]

Rossi did a tricky last qualification lap. He looks so happy with it. Good for him, at least he can challenge and have a fight for the podium.

I hope Marquez won't 'run away' like what he did in almost every race. Sure he wins, but it's not fun to watch.

I am happy to see Rossi on the second position of the starting Grid.
It would be interesting to see a "fight" between Marquez and Rossi. The "rising talent" vs the "Legend".
This race has all the fonts to be an exciting one.

[slocker]

This was another epic race. Shame for early crash in first cornet from Quartararo and Dovizioso, luckily for them without any major injuries, except the Ducati bike. Awersome move in last lap last corner from Rins with going out but im going in move and win with 0.0013 of the second. Last two races shown that we have some new hopes in MotoGP. Now we will have 3 weeks break.

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BRITISH MOTOGP - RACE RESULTS

POS   RIDER   NAT   TEAM   TIME/DIFF
1   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   40m 12.799s
2   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.013s
3   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.620s
4   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +11.439s
5   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +13.109s
6   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +19.169s
7   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +19.682s
8   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +20.318s
9   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +21.079s
10   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +25.144s
11   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   +40.317s
12   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +45.478s
13   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +54.783s
14   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +56.651s
15   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +89.282s
16   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +91.716s
17   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +100.420s
    Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   DNF
    Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   DNF
    Johann Zarco   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   DNF
    Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   DNF
    Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   DNF

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BRITISH MOTOGP - RACE RESULTS

POS   RIDER   NAT   TEAM   TIME/DIFF
1   Alex Rins   SPA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   40m 12.799s
2   Marc Marquez   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +0.013s
3   Maverick Viñales   SPA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +0.620s
4   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +11.439s
5   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +13.109s
6   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +19.169s
7   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   +19.682s
8   Jack Miller   AUS   Pramac Ducati (GP19)   +20.318s
9   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   +21.079s
10   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   +25.144s
11   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Pramac Ducati (GP18)*   +40.317s
12   Sylvain Guintoli   FRA   Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   +45.478s
13   Hafizh Syahrin   MAL   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +54.783s
14   Jorge Lorenzo   SPA   Repsol Honda (RC213V)   +56.651s
15   Karel Abraham   CZE   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +89.282s
16   Tito Rabat   SPA   Reale Avintia Ducati (GP18)   +91.716s
17   Takaaki Nakagami   JPN   LCR Honda (RC213V)   +100.420s
    Aleix Espargaro   SPA   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   DNF
    Miguel Oliveira   POR   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)*   DNF
    Johann Zarco   FRA   Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16)   DNF
    Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Petronas Yamaha (YZR-M1)*   DNF
    Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Mission Winnow Ducati (GP19)   DNF

in the last laps, MotoGp again presents an interesting spectacle, maybe if racers other than Marquez can be consistent and lucky in every race, like Rins, Vinales, Dovi, VR46, Lorenzo, MotoGP will surely always provide an interesting spectacle like before.