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[Dux2K]

Motogp qualifying results

1. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha (YZR-M1) 1m 32.439s [Lap 8/9] 294km/h(Max)
2. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (GP17) 1m 32.601s +0.162s [9/9] 296km/h
3. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.636s +0.197s [4/7] 292km/h
4. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.768s +0.329s [8/9] 293km/h
5. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (GP17) 1m 32.792s +0.353s [5/9] 293km/h
6. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 32.885s +0.446s [7/8]291km/h
7. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda (RC213V) 1m 32.992s +0.553s [8/9] 295km/h
8. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac (GP17) 1m 32.997s +0.558s [8/8] 292km/h
9. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 33.149s +0.710s [9/9]290km/h
10. Alvaro Bautista ESP Pull&Bear Aspar (GP16) 1m 33.417s +0.978s [7/8] 295km/h
11. Michele Pirro ITA Ducati Team (GP17) 1m 33.491s +1.052s [6/6] 291km/h
12. Karel Abraham CZE Pull&Bear Aspar (GP15) 1m 34.374s +1.935s [6/8] 292km/h
13. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia (GP16) 1m 33.920s 296km/h
14. Jack Miller AUS EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 33.933s 289km/h
15. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia (GP15) 1m 33.946s 288km/h
16. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 33.987s 288km/h
17. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 34.080s 291km/h
18. Tito Rabat ESP EG 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 34.095s 289km/h
19. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac (GP16) 1m 34.132s 289km/h
20. Alex Rins ESP Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 34.138s 289km/h
21. Andrea Iannone ITA Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 34.148s 288km/h
22. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory (RC16) 1m 34.507s 288km/h
23. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 35.659s 283km/h

[cicciobtc]

Final Results Gp San Marino "Misano":

1. Marc Marquez (Spa/Honda)       50'41.565
2. Danilo Petrucci (Ita/Ducati)         + 1.192
3. Andrea Dovizioso (Ita/Ducati)     +11.706
4. Maverick Vinales (Spa/Yamaha)  +16.559
5. Michele Pirro (Ita/Ducati)             +19.499
6. Jack Miller (Aus/Honda)                +24.882
7. Scott Redding (Gb/Ducati)            +33.872
8. Alex Rins (Spa/Suzuki)                 +34.662
9. Jonas Folger (Ger/Yamaha)           +54.082
10. Bradley Smith (Gb/Ktm)             +57.964
11. Pol Eespargaro (Spa/Ktm)        +1'00.440
12. Alvaro Bautista (Spa/Ducati)    +1'17.356
13. Cal Crutchlow (Gb/Honda)        +1'35.588
14. Dani Pedrosa (Spa/Honda)        +1'38.857
15. Johann Zarco (Fra/Yamaha)       +2'02.212


Lorenzo could finally win his first race this year but exaggerated and fell.
An important victory for Marquez, which proves to be stronger than Dovizioso and Vinales.
Disappointing Pedrosa who with this bad race is definitely out of the games for the victory of the world championship.

[LTU_btc]

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

[cicciobtc]

Standing MotoGP after 13 of 18 races:

1)Marquez     199    gap
1)Dovizioso   199      0
3)Vinales       183    -16

4)Rossi           157    -42
5)Pedrosa       150    -49
   
6)Zarco          110      -99
7)Petrucci        95    -104
8 )Crutchlow    92    -107
9)Lorenzo        90    -109
10)Folger         84    -115


at 5 races from the end, 3 riders fighting for the world championship.
Valentino Rossi wants to come back already in the next race (Gp Aragon) but his substitute is already ready:
the dutch Van Der Mark (24 years old) who runs in Superbike.

[Dux2K]

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

Seem true they will announce on Singapore race officially  that they are going to use Renault engine

[cicciobtc]

In Motogp next year there will be 19 Gp instead of the current 18 Gp.
The new entry is the Gp of Thailand (Chang International Circuit).
This new Gp will probably be in October

In 2019 there will also be a Gp in Finland (KimyRing Circuit).

[thejaytiesto]

Am I the one and only guy thinks that Max's aggresive ride is nice for the eye but deadly for his F1 car?

Yeah and congratulations for Lewis, imo he will be a monster till the end of the F1 2017 season.

I think lewis hamilton not monster driver in formula one
hamilton is good performance because car is good, above another team, maybe this now only ferari can compete with mercedes

The car is too much of a deciding factor in Formula 1. I used to always watch the races but it's reaching a point where it's just 90% car and 10% pilot.

One of the best pilots in the current rooster or I might say the best active pilot is Fernando Alonso and his career is stuck in the mud due an unlucky car. If FA had a killer car he would be the new Michael Schumacher.

[bbc.reporter]

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

That is the best news that has come out from McClaren since the beginning of the season. But who will their new engine partner be next year?

Renault? They are having their own problems too. Redbull has been blaming them for being unreliable during races.

Mercedes? Are they willing to use a weaker version of the fastest engine in Formula 1?

What about Fernando Alonso? Will he stay or go?

[tokeweed]

It's another race weekend ladies and gentlemen, but I got kinda bored with F1 when the football season kicked off.  But I'm back and excited as ever.  Will we see Vettel fight back or will Hamilton slowly solidify his lead?

And btw...  Porsche bought RBR and will become a works team building its own engine?  YES PLEASE! 

Singapore Grand Prix 2017
All times are local.

Thursday 14th September
18:00: FIA Press conference

Friday 15th September
16:30 – 18:00: First free practice session
20:30 – 22:00: Second free practice session
22:30: FIA Press conference

Saturday 16th September
18:00 – 19:00: Third free practice session
19:55 – 20:50: Paddock pitlane walk
21:00 – 22:00: Qualifying

Sunday 17th September
18:30: Drivers’ Track Parade
18:45 – 19:15: Starting Grid Presentation
19:46: National Anthem
20:00 – 22:00: Singapore GP

Singapore GP Facts:
First held: 1966
Circuit length: 5.065 km (3.147 mi)
Race length: 308.828 km (191.897 mi)
Laps: 61
2016 winner: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

[cicciobtc]

It's another race weekend ladies and gentlemen, but I got kinda bored with F1 when the football season kicked off.  But I'm back and excited as ever.  Will we see Vettel fight back or will Hamilton slowly solidify his lead?

And btw...  Porsche bought RBR and will become a works team building its own engine?  YES PLEASE! 

Singapore Grand Prix 2017
All times are local.

Thursday 14th September
18:00: FIA Press conference

Friday 15th September
16:30 – 18:00: First free practice session
20:30 – 22:00: Second free practice session
22:30: FIA Press conference

Saturday 16th September
18:00 – 19:00: Third free practice session
19:55 – 20:50: Paddock pitlane walk
21:00 – 22:00: Qualifying

Sunday 17th September
18:30: Drivers’ Track Parade
18:45 – 19:15: Starting Grid Presentation
19:46: National Anthem
20:00 – 22:00: Singapore GP

Singapore GP Facts:
First held: 1966
Circuit length: 5.065 km (3.147 mi)
Race length: 308.828 km (191.897 mi)
Laps: 61
2016 winner: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes)

Vettel can win and return to first place in the world championship!
This track is similar to the MonteCarlo GP and the Hungarian GP, in those 2 gp Ferrari dominated.
Even Red Bulls can do a good GP and can "steal" points at Hamilton.

[LTU_btc]

Singapore GP is great track for Ferrari and if Vettel want to stay in fight for championship, he must win.
And Mercedes before race weekend extended contract with Bottas. He shows good and stable results and this what Mercedes need.

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

That is the best news that has come out from McClaren since the beginning of the season. But who will their new engine partner be next year?

Renault? They are having their own problems too. Redbull has been blaming them for being unreliable during races.

Mercedes? Are they willing to use a weaker version of the fastest engine in Formula 1?

What about Fernando Alonso? Will he stay or go?

McLaren planning to use Renault engines. And Alonso still didn't decided, he will stay or not.
And Toro Rosso signed deal with Honda to use their engines. In future, Red Bull also can use Honda engines, if Toro Rosso will show good results.

[bbc.reporter]

@LTU_btc. Redbull to use Honda engines? I think not. Honda has not yet proven itself as a reliable engine manufacturer. It is best for their team to stick to the proven Renault engines.

They had 4 championship years in the past. I reckon Adrian Newey's chassis design is not good this year.

[azguard]

@LTU_btc. Redbull to use Honda engines? I think not. Honda has not yet proven itself as a reliable engine manufacturer. It is best for their team to stick to the proven Renault engines.

They had 4 championship years in the past. I reckon Adrian Newey's chassis design is not good this year.

Now watching on tv free practice at the moment, and there are talks that will be announced on next race for all teams mentioned. True is that RB and TR wants Honda engines, and that McLaren want Renault engines, and Alonso is still mistery, maybe he will go in Indy championship this is also option for him, BTW this new look on Formula 1 cars for driver safety look like crap for me. Next upgrade ill be probably close cockpit and them it will not be Formula 1 anymore.

[cicciobtc]

Free Practice Gp Singapore:

1.Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull  1:40:852
2.Max Verstappen Red Bull      +0:556
3.Lewis Hamilton Mercedes     +0:703
4.Valtteri Bottas Mercedes       +1:252
5.Nikolas Hulkenberg Renault  +1:596
6.Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren    +1:649
7.Fernando Alonso McLaren      +1:936
8.Sergio Perez Force India        +1:974
9.Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari          +1:983
10.Esteban Ocon Force India    +2:202
11.Sebastian Vettel Ferrari       +2:252


great time for Ricciardo with the record of the track!
Red Bull can win here.
Ferrari today is far away, will it be just pretactic?

[PokerDiceMan]

Singapore GP is great track for Ferrari and if Vettel want to stay in fight for championship, he must win.
And Mercedes before race weekend extended contract with Bottas. He shows good and stable results and this what Mercedes need.

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

That is the best news that has come out from McClaren since the beginning of the season. But who will their new engine partner be next year?

Renault? They are having their own problems too. Redbull has been blaming them for being unreliable during races.

Mercedes? Are they willing to use a weaker version of the fastest engine in Formula 1?

What about Fernando Alonso? Will he stay or go?

McLaren planning to use Renault engines. And Alonso still didn't decided, he will stay or not.
And Toro Rosso signed deal with Honda to use their engines. In future, Red Bull also can use Honda engines, if Toro Rosso will show good results.

honda engine in formula one is not competive
iam afraid if red bull use hondan engine not competitive again

so formula one can boring only batle mercedes and ferari

[pereira4]

Singapore GP is great track for Ferrari and if Vettel want to stay in fight for championship, he must win.
And Mercedes before race weekend extended contract with Bottas. He shows good and stable results and this what Mercedes need.

Important news for McLaren. According to Autosport.com, McLaren reached agreement with Honda to be released from their partnership and switch to Renault engines.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/131767/mclaren-agrees-deal-to-leave-honda-for-renault
I hope that next season Mclaren will be able to reach finnish and fight higher positions. It's shame to see what is happening to this legendary team in last and this seasons.

That is the best news that has come out from McClaren since the beginning of the season. But who will their new engine partner be next year?

Renault? They are having their own problems too. Redbull has been blaming them for being unreliable during races.

Mercedes? Are they willing to use a weaker version of the fastest engine in Formula 1?

What about Fernando Alonso? Will he stay or go?

McLaren planning to use Renault engines. And Alonso still didn't decided, he will stay or not.
And Toro Rosso signed deal with Honda to use their engines. In future, Red Bull also can use Honda engines, if Toro Rosso will show good results.

It depends a lot on how things are going to develop in the following months. It's clear that Alonso is a top3 driver and is underperforming due the insanely crappy car that he has the unfortunate to be driving with his current team.


It all comes down to what teams give him a chance for the next season. The problem with top world champions is that teams don't want two world champions on the same team, usually they have a world champion and a newcomer or a guy that's not that good so they don't have dangerous situations like we saw with Hamilton vs Alonso era in McClaren.

[bbc.reporter]

Free Practice Gp Singapore:

1.Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull  1:40:852
2.Max Verstappen Red Bull      +0:556
3.Lewis Hamilton Mercedes     +0:703
4.Valtteri Bottas Mercedes       +1:252
5.Nikolas Hulkenberg Renault  +1:596
6.Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren    +1:649
7.Fernando Alonso McLaren      +1:936
8.Sergio Perez Force India        +1:974
9.Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari          +1:983
10.Esteban Ocon Force India    +2:202
11.Sebastian Vettel Ferrari       +2:252


great time for Ricciardo with the record of the track!
Red Bull can win here.
Ferrari today is far away, will it be just pretactic?

First 2 practice runs does not really show us anything. They are tests on the car's balance and reliability and the drivers do not push and go as fast as they can.

Ferrari might have small problems but let us wait for the 3rd practice. I reckon we can judge where they will be in qualifying after it.

[Dux2K]

Free Practice Gp Singapore:

1.Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull  1:40:852
2.Max Verstappen Red Bull      +0:556
3.Lewis Hamilton Mercedes     +0:703
4.Valtteri Bottas Mercedes       +1:252
5.Nikolas Hulkenberg Renault  +1:596
6.Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren    +1:649
7.Fernando Alonso McLaren      +1:936
8.Sergio Perez Force India        +1:974
9.Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari          +1:983
10.Esteban Ocon Force India    +2:202
11.Sebastian Vettel Ferrari       +2:252


great time for Ricciardo with the record of the track!
Red Bull can win here.
Ferrari today is far away, will it be just pretactic?

First 2 practice runs does not really show us anything. They are tests on the car's balance and reliability and the drivers do not push and go as fast as they can.

Ferrari might have small problems but let us wait for the 3rd practice. I reckon we can judge where they will be in qualifying after it.

They will have problems here cuz this track Is more  for Mercedes drivers rather then Ferrari,  here will red Bull drivers might surprise us all and might take pole or even race.

[mnixxo]

Vettel did it. I didnt believe him for pole position. I was thinking one of the Red Bull drivers will have pole. Red Bull was the fastest whole the weekend. It will be very exciting GP tomorrow. Of course with some safety car here in Singapore. I think Red Bull will win this race.

[bbc.reporter]

No one should miss the very start of the race when they release Sebastian and Max Verstappen in the front row. I reckon this is the first time that we have a Ferrari versus Redbull in 1st and 2nd places on the grid. This is a godsend for those people who are already becoming bored with the season.