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[tokeweed]

^  If Antonelli keeps getting the one up on Russell then I guess we'll be seeing one of the youngest world champions in F1 in the modern era? 

I would live to see it tbh.  I don't really like Russell much.  And I guess it's better if we see a Verstappen - Antonelli 1 and 2 than a Verstappen - Russell one. 

[FanEagle]

Kimi Antonelli is definitely having a good season so far, but we are just barely starting, we still have months and months of racing left which means that a little requires a consistency, and that is where young racers usually have trouble with .Most of the time they end up with situations where it will not matter that much and we will no see it happen.

Kimi is doing fine now, but as the season progresses, I bet you that we are going to start seeing him make mistakes. Not like finish 7th because slow, but more like finish DNF because of a crash type of races, that is what young racers who are stressed do, they make mistakes that causes them to crash out of a race, and lose all points. That is what ı am expecting from him a couple of times.

[tokeweed]

There's a fine line between seeing somebody's dominance early in the season and seeing if it's just early season luck.  I think with Antonelli's case, it's the former.  And remember 'Bono' Bonnington, Hamilton's engineer from before?  Yeah...  He's Antonelli's race engineer now. 

We have a new world drivers champion ladies and gents...  And it's Antonelli.  Not like I needed to say it. 

[wiss19]

^  If Antonelli keeps getting the one up on Russell then I guess we'll be seeing one of the youngest world champions in F1 in the modern era? 

I would live to see it tbh.  I don't really like Russell much.  And I guess it's better if we see a Verstappen - Antonelli 1 and 2 than a Verstappen - Russell one. 

By a large margin. Current youngest champion is 23 years old Vettel back in the day, Antonelli is only 19 years old, so it would not be a small margin, not like by days, which normally how these records are broken, but it would be YEARS and we may not see it for a long time as well.

Right now Antonelli even looks better than Russell, not just because he is ahead, but if you loo kat the races themselves you see that they look better. But there is no guarantee that Mercedes will keep having the best car for all season long, they have one now, but we need to wait and see the upgrades to decide how it will go on.

[Koal-84]

I consider this to be very good news. The FIA President Mohammed ben Sulayem announced in Miami that there will likely be another engine regulation change. From 2030 onwards, V8 engines with a reduced electric component could return, which I strongly welcome as a motorsport fan. Personally, I would really enjoy seeing that again. Whether it will actually happen and in what exact form remains to be seen. A V8 turbo engine would certainly be exciting, although high-revving V10 naturally aspirated engines would be my personal favorite, even if that is very unlikely.

[retreat]

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Kimi is doing fine now, but as the season progresses, I bet you that we are going to start seeing him make mistakes. Not like finish 7th because slow, but more like finish DNF because of a crash type of races, that is what young racers who are stressed do, they make mistakes that causes them to crash out of a race, and lose all points. That is what ı am expecting from him a couple of times.

What Kimi has achieved so far is impressive, as Russell has the same car specs as him, but he still hasn't achieved what Kimi has achieved. While it's not impossible that he might make mistakes, from what I've seen, Kimi is feeling pretty confident right now, and has Bono supporting him, who is able to give him good direction in his racing. So with what Kimi has now, he should be doing well throughout the season - and it's not impossible that he might even win the drivers' championship at his young age.

[tokeweed]

^  If Antonelli keeps getting the one up on Russell then I guess we'll be seeing one of the youngest world champions in F1 in the modern era? 

I would live to see it tbh.  I don't really like Russell much.  And I guess it's better if we see a Verstappen - Antonelli 1 and 2 than a Verstappen - Russell one. 

By a large margin. Current youngest champion is 23 years old Vettel back in the day, Antonelli is only 19 years old, so it would not be a small margin, not like by days, which normally how these records are broken, but it would be YEARS and we may not see it for a long time as well.

Right now Antonelli even looks better than Russell, not just because he is ahead, but if you loo kat the races themselves you see that they look better. But there is no guarantee that Mercedes will keep having the best car for all season long, they have one now, but we need to wait and see the upgrades to decide how it will go on.

Oh wow...  I didn't realize Antonelli was that young.  So yeah, having Verstappen by his side could be good for him in the long run.  But on the other hand if he gets impatient or if Verstappen messes with him psychologically then he might find an exit at Mercedes and join another team. 

Dunno tho..  But I now feel like Verstappen could be a net negative for Antonelli.  Toto Wolff should make him the no. 1 driver and keep Russell as no. 2.

[retreat]

The FIA ​​is discussing a proposal for 2027 that would potentially change the 50:50 ratio between Internal Combustion Engines and Battery Power. There would be a 50kW increase in Internal Combustion Engine power, while the ERS would also reduce the same power output, potentially changing the 50:50 ratio. However, this is still just a proposal, the FIA ​​is still discussing this with the teams and power unit manufacturers. However, it is optimistic that it will be implemented in 2027 if everyone agrees.

I see that the FIA ​​is also aware that the 2026 regulations are unpopular with many, so they recognize the need for changes to make them more relevant to F1.

[Distraction]

I didn't enjoy this race either because of unnatural overtakes... I was hopeful after reading that they made it more realistic again before the Miami GP.

By the way Antonelli continues to shine. I don't get why Russell is having this much issue. I would have a good laugh if he doesn't take this opportunity for the title. 

The FIA ​​is discussing a proposal for 2027 that would potentially change the 50:50 ratio between Internal Combustion Engines and Battery Power. There would be a 50kW increase in Internal Combustion Engine power, while the ERS would also reduce the same power output, potentially changing the 50:50 ratio. However, this is still just a proposal, the FIA ​​is still discussing this with the teams and power unit manufacturers. However, it is optimistic that it will be implemented in 2027 if everyone agrees.

I see that the FIA ​​is also aware that the 2026 regulations are unpopular with many, so they recognize the need for changes to make them more relevant to F1.

Finally they talk some sense! Because the races this season are really unbearable for me.    It looks like it's the same in many countries considering the drop in the number of F1 viewers.

[tokeweed]

The FIA ​​is discussing a proposal for 2027 that would potentially change the 50:50 ratio between Internal Combustion Engines and Battery Power. There would be a 50kW increase in Internal Combustion Engine power, while the ERS would also reduce the same power output, potentially changing the 50:50 ratio. However, this is still just a proposal, the FIA ​​is still discussing this with the teams and power unit manufacturers. However, it is optimistic that it will be implemented in 2027 if everyone agrees.

I see that the FIA ​​is also aware that the 2026 regulations are unpopular with many, so they recognize the need for changes to make them more relevant to F1.

Are they trying to bring back the engine sounds of old?  These new engines aren't gonna cut it for sure.  As I said again and again, F1 has become a lot more boring with the current engine sounds.  Gone are the days that when you hear the V8, V10 or V12 engine, you know that's the sound of F1.  It's like a trademark.

But now it's like...  Meh.  It's like watching an uneventful movie.

[retreat]

Are they trying to bring back the engine sounds of old?  These new engines aren't gonna cut it for sure.  As I said again and again, F1 has become a lot more boring with the current engine sounds.  Gone are the days that when you hear the V8, V10 or V12 engine, you know that's the sound of F1.  It's like a trademark.

But now it's like...  Meh.  It's like watching an uneventful movie.

Rumors are circulating that the V8 might return to F1, with hybrid V8s. This was suggested by Ben Sulayem and supported by teams and drivers, who also agree that the V8 engine is the solution to future regulations. However, this will likely be implemented in 2030/2031, so this is a long-term plan. But, if the engine does return to F1, the rough concept sounds something like this:

• 2.6 to 3.0 liter V8
• Hybrid assistance of around 10% to 20%
• Approximately 880 horsepower in total
• Around 650 horsepower coming from the combustion engine
• Revs kept below roughly 15,500 to 16,000 rpm

https://www.kymillman.com/blog/v8-engines-to-return-to-f1-by-2031/?srsltid=AfmBOoqd6wUg-jJh5Rgx_-cL6thQQN6QySPWUHmWQQzYhGBFDGS8Mimo

Although the RPM is lower than the 2011 V8, which might make these V8s less comparable to the previous generation, they still sound much better compared to the 2026 regulations.

[Koal-84]

What a disastrous season this has been for the Ducati factory team  . Marc Marquez is injured, and Bagnaia just can’t seem to get into his groove, whenever he’s up front, he crashed. But I’m really happy for Aprilia, it looks very likely that this year’s world champion will be riding an Aprilia. Marquez is out for at least two more races, so if Aprilia keeps scoring points like this, it’ll be tough for him to catch up, if not nearly impossible.

[tokeweed]

Are they trying to bring back the engine sounds of old?  These new engines aren't gonna cut it for sure.  As I said again and again, F1 has become a lot more boring with the current engine sounds.  Gone are the days that when you hear the V8, V10 or V12 engine, you know that's the sound of F1.  It's like a trademark.

But now it's like...  Meh.  It's like watching an uneventful movie.

Rumors are circulating that the V8 might return to F1, with hybrid V8s. This was suggested by Ben Sulayem and supported by teams and drivers, who also agree that the V8 engine is the solution to future regulations. However, this will likely be implemented in 2030/2031, so this is a long-term plan. But, if the engine does return to F1, the rough concept sounds something like this:

• 2.6 to 3.0 liter V8
• Hybrid assistance of around 10% to 20%
• Approximately 880 horsepower in total
• Around 650 horsepower coming from the combustion engine
• Revs kept below roughly 15,500 to 16,000 rpm

https://www.kymillman.com/blog/v8-engines-to-return-to-f1-by-2031/?srsltid=AfmBOoqd6wUg-jJh5Rgx_-cL6thQQN6QySPWUHmWQQzYhGBFDGS8Mimo

Although the RPM is lower than the 2011 V8, which might make these V8s less comparable to the previous generation, they still sound much better compared to the 2026 regulations.

Hah then it looks like they do want to bring back the F1 engine sounds of old back to the sport...  I mean really, if you guys have been watching F1 for a long time with the screaming engines then experience the shift to the V6 Turbo, it's a world of difference.  The engine sounds you're hearing today is bottom line not F1.

And I'm pretty sure a lot of people would agree.

[panjul07]

What a disastrous season this has been for the Ducati factory team  . Marc Marquez is injured, and Bagnaia just can’t seem to get into his groove, whenever he’s up front, he crashed. But I’m really happy for Aprilia, it looks very likely that this year’s world champion will be riding an Aprilia. Marquez is out for at least two more races, so if Aprilia keeps scoring points like this, it’ll be tough for him to catch up, if not nearly impossible.

First Aprilia podium Lock-out, a new history in MotoGP which is something great while on other side Ducati seems to be having too much problem this season.
Not only the factory team but also the satellite team although Alex won the previous Jerez race but in overall statistic, Ducati is still struggling this season.
It will be nice to see competition between duo Aprilia riders (72 & 89) for this season world champion title.

[retreat]

There are rumors that Red Bull will bring Piastri to the team if Max leaves. Piastri has all the potential and is a suitable candidate to replace Max at Red Bull. Currently, Red Bull is still unsure whether Isack Hadjar can lead the team, so they prefer to make Piastri their main driver if Max leaves the team.

[Distraction]

Max is still racing in many other sports at the same time with the F1 season. I think this could really be a sign for him to leave F1 if things go this way. He is really wonderful on other racing sports also by the way.

However after FIA has made that regulation announcement for 2027 season maybe Max would be convinced. At least to give it a one last chance... I wouldn't like to lose an amazing driver like him in this sport truthfully.

[retreat]

Since there are still 10 days left until the F1 season, Max seems to be pursuing a side quest by participating in the Nurburgring 24 Hours. In fact, at this Nurburgring 24 Hours race, the organizers managed to sell out tickets for the weekend due to Max's debut, and it was the first time in their history that they had done so. There were so many people curious to see Max's performance on a different track, and that's what made this Nurburgring 24 Hours session even more special.

[retreat]

Rumors about Max's move from Red Bull are getting wilder. There are now rumors that Max is linked to a potential move to McLaren. Talks have already begun between Max and McLaren to explore future possibilities. At the same time, this could also potentially lead to Piastri's move to Red Bull. While this is still just a rumor, it does provide clarity that many major F1 teams are eager to bring Max to their teams, even though Mercedes remains the strongest contender.

[Koal-84]

What a crash by Alex Marquez, I hope nothing serious happened. It was apparently caused by a technical issue, likely with the KTM, but it seems Alex is conscious, and as I mentioned, I hope he hasn’t suffered any serious injuries.

And it was a very kind gesture by Pramac Yamaha to help Acosta back to the pits after he had a flat tire.

[panjul07]

What a crash by Alex Marquez, I hope nothing serious happened. It was apparently caused by a technical issue, likely with the KTM, but it seems Alex is conscious, and as I mentioned, I hope he hasn’t suffered any serious injuries.

And it was a very kind gesture by Pramac Yamaha to help Acosta back to the pits after he had a flat tire.

What a race with full of drama last weekend, 2x Red Flags, a horrible crash of Alex, Zarco and another crash of Martin.
Seems that the main cause of the crash of Alex is indeed the issue of the KTM as proven with the other riders (Binder even before start then Enea).
KTM bike seems to be loss its power which made Acosta made a sudden slow down while Alex was on his full speed behind him so Alex unable to avoid the crash.
The final drama was on the last lap when Acosta crashed in the last corner before finish, many people says that it is a karma for Acosta LOL.