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June 27, 2025, 02:44:31 PM
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2025 F1 Austrian Grand Prix - Practice Results (1)
1   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m05.542s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m05.607s
3   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m05.766s
4   Alex Dunne   IRL   McLaren F1 Team   1m05.766s
5   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m05.780s
6   Gabriel Bortoleto   BRA   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m05.874s
7   Alex Albon   THA   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m05.946s
8   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Atlassian Williams Racing   1m06.017s
9   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m06.099s
10   Isack Hadjar   FRA   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m06.110s
11   Kimi Antonelli   ITA   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m06.130s
12   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   Stake F1 Team Kick Sauber   1m06.140s
13   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m06.160s
14   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team   1m06.170s
15   Liam Lawson   NZL   Visa Cash App Racing Bulls F1 Team   1m06.189s
16   Franco Colapinto   ARG   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m06.246s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m06.262s
18   Dino Beganovic   SWE   Scuderia Ferrari HP   1m06.369s
19   Esteban Ocon   FRA   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m06.510s
20   Oliver Bearman   GBR   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m06.738s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1075105/1/2025-f1-austrian-grand-prix-friday-practice-results

And yesterday they said that Mercedes will not be competitive with hot temperatures...

We will see on the next sessions/day since it will be hotter.
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June 27, 2025, 02:58:29 PM
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Alex Dunne just finished his first session in F1 with a pretty good result. He got P4 with a time not much different than his partner Piastri, before he was eventually called up for the team radio upgrade. With this result he got the attention of F1 fans.

As for Dino Beganovic, it seems that the upgrade made by Ferari is not so satisfying, with him having to finish at P18, it is not the expected result. Hamilton also had his session interrupted with a gearbox issue, but fortunately he still had time and he eventually finished P9. Another unsatisfactory result from Ferrari.

FP2 will start in a while, hopefully there will be better results from Ferari.

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June 27, 2025, 05:39:27 PM
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Norris got P1 in this FP2 session after successfully finishing with a time of 1:04.580 at the end of the session - 0.157 seconds ahead of Oscar Piastri and 0.318 seconds ahead of Max Verstappen. This is a pretty good result for Norris after he had to skip the FP1 session.

What was surprising was Lance Stroll who suddenly managed to be in P4. Although there was a small incident where he had light contact with Max, he showed an impressive performance in this practice session. The possibility of warm weather and a combination of soft tires was a key factor in their performance.

Meanwhile, for Ferrari, they still had a little difficulty with their car, as can be seen from Charles who several times looked difficult to control his car and made him have to go off the track, but he was still able to finish in P5. Meanwhile, his teammate, Hamilton, showed a worse performance than the previous session by only finishing in P10. He had a problem with the gearbox, which hampered his car's speed.

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June 27, 2025, 06:36:51 PM
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This is just practice so of course it is not that easy to make a distinction between who is good and who is not. We have seen even lower level teams that managed to get first place in practices before, that sucked during the race. What we need right now is to make sure we can see how the teams actually end up doing on the race itself, but we can learn a bit before if all goes according to plan at qualifying as well.

However, if this is the order, then I fear for Mclaren, they had a wonderful year, but if Mclaren isn't the fastest car anymore, there is a valid possibility of us seeing them drop down the order eventually, not easily, would take the whole year but could happen. So, Mclaren needs to focus on this season if they want to have a win at the end.
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June 27, 2025, 06:46:22 PM
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Russell couldn't maintain the same effort in FP2. McLarens were at their usual positions. Stroll was the most surprising part of the session. P4?  Grin  But yeah it is just a free practice.



By the way I have fresh news on Toto Wolff - Verstappen. The Mercedes boss confirmed his interest in Verstappen. For 2026 season I mean and he thinks of a pair like Russell - Verstappen.

https://x.com/SkySportsF1/status/1938619363046707354

What do you say about the potential scenario? Fire and gunpowder do not sleep together though but let's see...  Smiley

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June 27, 2025, 07:50:48 PM
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Russell couldn't maintain the same effort in FP2. McLarens were at their usual positions. Stroll was the most surprising part of the session. P4?  Grin  But yeah it is just a free practice.



By the way I have fresh news on Toto Wolff - Verstappen. The Mercedes boss confirmed his interest in Verstappen. For 2026 season I mean and he thinks of a pair like Russell - Verstappen.

https://x.com/SkySportsF1/status/1938619363046707354

What do you say about the potential scenario? Fire and gunpowder do not sleep together though but let's see...  Smiley

Yup
Toto drop the Bomb.
As we already know Max will probably leave RedBull at the end of the season for Aston Martin or Mercedes.
It will be a bid war between them to get his talent.

Also I don't think that Max and Russell can coexist in the same team.
We had beef in the past year and this year, they will crush every possible turn.

So if Max end in Mercedes then Russell will be sacked imho.
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June 28, 2025, 11:43:55 AM
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Although he could not break last year's lap record set by Pecco Bagnaia at the Dutch Assen circuit, Fabio Quartararo managed to be the first during the Assen MotoGP qualification today and in the Practice session he also managed to be the first. And today I want to see how Quartararo maintains his position during the Sprint because in the front row there are more Ducati bikes that will prevent one Yamaha bike from being the first in today's Sprint. Hopefully Quartararo can provide a slightly fiercer resistance in today's Sprint.

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June 28, 2025, 01:03:40 PM
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By the way I have fresh news on Toto Wolff - Verstappen. The Mercedes boss confirmed his interest in Verstappen. For 2026 season I mean and he thinks of a pair like Russell - Verstappen.

https://x.com/SkySportsF1/status/1938619363046707354

What do you say about the potential scenario? Fire and gunpowder do not sleep together though but let's see...  Smiley

I'm not surprised...  I've been already saying Toto Wolff wants Verstappen and what a pairing it would be if Verstappen's race engineer is Bono, Hamilton's former race engineer.  Wink

As for Verstappen - Russell, I think if Toto Wolff does acquire Verstappen, he'll rather pair him with the younger driver in Antonelli.  Less tension that way.

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June 28, 2025, 01:28:29 PM
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Mclarens back on top.
Redbull and both Ferrari are really close.

As predicted Mercedes should soffer more during this weekend expecially tomorrow with hotter day.
Even if they are close I don't think that anyone can fight papaya's cars.
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June 28, 2025, 01:32:22 PM
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Although he could not break last year's lap record set by Pecco Bagnaia at the Dutch Assen circuit, Fabio Quartararo managed to be the first during the Assen MotoGP qualification today and in the Practice session he also managed to be the first. And today I want to see how Quartararo maintains his position during the Sprint because in the front row there are more Ducati bikes that will prevent one Yamaha bike from being the first in today's Sprint. Hopefully Quartararo can provide a slightly fiercer resistance in today's Sprint.

Again, today is still not his time to win because he was crashed as it seems that the pushed his own limit to stay in the competition for the top places in the sprint race.
Another a bit disappointing moment for Pecco, although he manages to get the 2nd in the qualification but seems that it is still hard for him to compete in a real race.
On other side, Marc who seems to be getting hard time since free practice to qualification, proves himself that he is the fastest rider in the sprint race followed by his younger brother Alex who tried to push him a lot during the race till finish.
Special congrats for Bezzecchi for his first Sprint's podium, he was actually great as he managed to get several fastest lap times compared to Marc and Alex.

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June 28, 2025, 03:55:32 PM
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Maquez won again today in Moto GP.
He started in 4th positon in the Dutch GP sprint race but her won again.
Second position for his brother in the Gresini's Ducati.

He won for half of a second, a close gap but this was enough to secure his 9th sprint win of the season.

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June 28, 2025, 04:39:03 PM
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Again, today is still not his time to win because he was crashed as it seems that the pushed his own limit to stay in the competition for the top places in the sprint race.
Another a bit disappointing moment for Pecco, although he manages to get the 2nd in the qualification but seems that it is still hard for him to compete in a real race.
On other side, Marc who seems to be getting hard time since free practice to qualification, proves himself that he is the fastest rider in the sprint race followed by his younger brother Alex who tried to push him a lot during the race till finish.
Special congrats for Bezzecchi for his first Sprint's podium, he was actually great as he managed to get several fastest lap times compared to Marc and Alex.
I saw Pecco Bagnaia had a little more difficulty in braking and overtaking the opponent in front of him and he couldn't even push his bike to be able to approach the opponent in front of him. This is really a complicated problem to understand because in Assen besides the gas, the brakes are also a factor that needs to be considered because there is no such long straight track. I also think that tomorrow Pecco will still have difficulty winning if the problem cannot be solved by his own mechanics.

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June 28, 2025, 06:01:19 PM
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Norris got pole position in the qualifying session of the Austrian GP this time. This is his first pole position and the first for McLaren in Austria since 25 years ago at the Austrian GP. He recorded a very impressive time of 1:03.971 - that is 0.521s gap with P2 and is the largest pole margin of the season. For his teammate, Piastri, he could only get P3 after he could not beat Charles' time record. He was left frustrated after he could not complete his final qualifying lap due to a late yellow flag following a spin for Pierre Gasly, if there were no obstacles he should have had a great chance of getting pole position.

As for Ferrari, Charles managed to get P2 in this qualifying session. This is a pretty good performance from Ferrari, even Charles said that it has been a long time since Ferrari was on the front row, and he showed a pretty happy face. After getting P2, Charles intended to put pressure on McLaren and make the race more challenging for them. And for Hamilton, he got P4 after beating Russell's time. This is a pretty good result for him and he is pretty satisfied with it. Hopefully Ferrari's strategy won't be destroyed in the full race later.

And what caught the attention in this qualification was Bortoleto, he got P8 - and it was his best result so far in F1. It was said that he managed to get that position after receiving a slipstream from Max, who said that his lap time was messed up, so he only gave a little help to his favorite "rookie". Well, it seems that Max understands how to play a strategic role even when he is not hunting for the fastest time.

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June 28, 2025, 06:23:57 PM
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Norris got a dominant pole position.
Finally a good thing for him happened.
The 1st step of upgrades for Ferrari worked and they managed to get second and 4th position, thanks to the problems to Piastri and Verstappen.

This is a solid step in the correct direction, waiting the big "announced"  upgrades coming the next week.
During the race they dominance of Mclaren should come out and guaranteed an easy 1-2 for the Papaya.
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June 28, 2025, 07:52:57 PM
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Norris got a dominant pole position.
Finally a good thing for him happened.
The 1st step of upgrades for Ferrari worked and they managed to get second and 4th position, thanks to the problems to Piastri and Verstappen.

This is a solid step in the correct direction, waiting the big "announced"  upgrades coming the next week.
During the race they dominance of Mclaren should come out and guaranteed an easy 1-2 for the Papaya.

Yes now lets see what is the real pace of them in the race, is Ferrari and we all know and see several times how they bait us, you start to have hope of having them in the fight and then they make the worst performance possible, so i dont have high hopes around them at all.

I see Verstappen overtaking them before the half of the race.

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June 28, 2025, 08:02:41 PM
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Norris got a dominant pole position.
Finally a good thing for him happened.
The 1st step of upgrades for Ferrari worked and they managed to get second and 4th position, thanks to the problems to Piastri and Verstappen.

This is a solid step in the correct direction, waiting the big "announced"  upgrades coming the next week.
During the race they dominance of Mclaren should come out and guaranteed an easy 1-2 for the Papaya.
That's really dominant pole, more than 0.5 seconds in such short track, we haven't saw this for a while. And it was neededa lot for Norris to get confidence during difficult period. Now he have to not screw up on race start.
Lawson qualifying ahead Verstappen - is that real life? Cheesy. While Tsunoda failing even to get out of Q1 somehow doesn't even looks like surprise...

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The Assen MotoGP race this time was quite fierce even though Marquez won again, but at least he did not leave his opponents too far behind and I really appreciate Marco Bezzecchi's performance in this race because he was able to win the second podium in this race. In addition, there is unpleasant news to know that Alex Marquez suffered a broken left hand after falling in the Assen race this time when he had contact with Pedro Acosta. I also really regret this because Alex is also a tough rider during this season.

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June 29, 2025, 06:07:36 PM
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The Austria GP is over and the winner is Lando Norris!

Was it easy for him? Not so much... Piastri fought really hard in the first part but couldn't overtake him. Norris had his best defending for a while. It is a deserved victory for sure!

Unlucky Verstappen... Antonelli pushed his luck too hard and ended Max's race too.  Sad  Lastly, Ferrari was great. Now they have taken the 2nd position from Mercedes in the championship.

Yup
Toto drop the Bomb.
As we already know Max will probably leave RedBull at the end of the season for Aston Martin or Mercedes.
It will be a bid war between them to get his talent.

Also I don't think that Max and Russell can coexist in the same team.
We had beef in the past year and this year, they will crush every possible turn.

So if Max end in Mercedes then Russell will be sacked imho.

This is like another scenario similar to Hamilton - Rosberg at Mercedes you know. I don't also think Russell and Verstappen would be a great duo honestly.  Tongue  But on the other hand it feels better than relying on a rookie driver like Antonelli...

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June 29, 2025, 06:18:17 PM
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The Assen MotoGP race this time was quite fierce even though Marquez won again, but at least he did not leave his opponents too far behind and I really appreciate Marco Bezzecchi's performance in this race because he was able to win the second podium in this race. In addition, there is unpleasant news to know that Alex Marquez suffered a broken left hand after falling in the Assen race this time when he had contact with Pedro Acosta. I also really regret this because Alex is also a tough rider during this season.

It looks like the old times when Marquez used to dominate the Championship with his Honda. However with that bike Marquez used to crash a lot and lost a lot of possibilities to get even more Championships than he already has. The fact is that with Ducati this guy is reborn and is dominating the last races quite well, no one seem to be able to fight him, not even World Champions like Bagnaia, I am afraid we are going to see him sealing the title early on, just like we all know now after the race of F1 today that the world Champion this time in F1 will be a McLaren driver, we just don't know who that will be. Assen is also considered the university of MotoGP so winning here has a special meaning for any rider and that is no different for Marquez who won today.


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Huge win for Norris.
Piastri tired but he had no really shots.
Good pace for Ferrari with 3rd and 4th position.

After 1/3 of the race they were in similar timers fo Mclaren, interesting.
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