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Piastri is a better driver overall.
Norris can compete in less track or only when anything happen to Piastri or when the strategy works for him.
Said that if I need to bet my money goes always on Piastri.

I'm confident that Piastri can win the drivers' championship this season, given his current performance and consistency. He has what Norris lacks, such as mentality and composure, which makes him a better driver than Norris. I'm not saying Norris is a bad driver, he's one of the best, but he still needs time to become more "mature" in this sport.

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The Gp of Malesia was in talks to get the race back.
The high cost required by FIA however is getting out of their possibilities and now it looks that they will not ask to host the race again.
So sad of this news, the race was amazing

Already 10 years has passed from the last race.
The owner of the track said it was a mistake leaving the circus and it is very very hard to participate again.

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Looking at the odds, Piastri @2.25 and Norris @2.35 for the winner of the Dutch Grand Prix ahead. Piastri is still leading the standings by a 9-point gap to Norris... What is your opinion on this race?

Piastri is a better driver overall.
Norris can compete in less track or only when anything happen to Piastri or when the strategy works for him.
Said that if I need to bet my money goes always on Piastri.

I disagree on this. It's not the better "driver" as in the race craft, or speed or anything like that. Piastri I believe is the better driver in mindset, and that makes the biggest difference.

Norris is the type of kid who you can push around, team could tell him to give the place to Piastri, and he won't really battle elbows out too much etc, he is really not that great. Whereas, Piastri is the guy who will do everything he can to win, just like Max but a bit lesser of course, nobody is as crazy as Max lol. This puts the difference between them, and that is why Piastri is ahead so much right now, that is the most important part. I think it's quite clear that we are going to end up with Piastri winning the title as well.

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This weekend MotoGP continues directly to the Balaton Park circuit in Hungary, which is a new circuit for MotoGP and is also quite narrow so some riders will definitely have difficulty getting their best time in each lap. But I want to see what surprises will happen in the Sprint and also in Sunday's Race, because for today I don't see any surprises even though riders like Bezzecchi and Bagnaia didn't qualify for Q2 after undergoing a rather strange Practice for them and also for several other riders.

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We will see but I really don't feel like Norris has what it takes to be a champion.    It is Piastri's 3rd year in Formula 1 and he is closer to the championship mathematically. Because he has that mentality.

He can fight Verstappen better than Norris honestly. I remember a race in which Piastri overtook Verstappen easily while Norris was struggling for many number of laps. My money will also be on Piastri in Netherlands next week.

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News of the day for F1
Caterham could enter in F1 As well from 2027 as 12th team.
For the one who don't remember, they were already in f1 in 2014 but they left for no money.

With the new regulation is easier for smaller teams to compete with the giants of F1.

What do you think about 24 cars in a track? imagine the chaos in Monaco qualifying.

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After watching the qualifying session at the Balaton Park circuit in Hungary with Marquez on pole position, I even skipped the Sprint race today, but after seeing the results I wasn't at all surprised because Marquez won by two seconds. However, when I saw that the VR46 Racing duo completed the Sprint podium today, I started looking for a video replay because besides that, Luca Marini was also quite extraordinary by being able to place himself in fourth place as the best rider on a Japanese motorcycle.

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Once again Marc Marquez won the sprint race this time in Hungarian GP.
The rest of the podium was with the other 2 Ducatis, this time the yellow ones from Valentino's team.
This is his 13th win in a row, after the start in the pole postion he got a easy win, at least for him.
Bagnaia nowadays is not a good driver anymore and rumors about a kick from the team already rising.

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News of the day for F1
Caterham could enter in F1 As well from 2027 as 12th team.
For the one who don't remember, they were already in f1 in 2014 but they left for no money.

With the new regulation is easier for smaller teams to compete with the giants of F1.

What do you think about 24 cars in a track? imagine the chaos in Monaco qualifying.

Indeed, after Cadillac’s acceptance, the plan is for a 12th team to receive full approval, but only if the test with 11 teams proves successful. There are many factors to consider when adding more teams to the grid, and it could be problematic on shorter tracks like Monaco and Austria. However, if the 2026 season goes smoothly without major issues, then the 12th team should be immediately accepted, which could be SKM or a Chinese manufacturer.

And the majority of drivers and team principals share the view that quality is more important than quantity. But new teams mean more money coming in, and the FIA ​​seems to be taking that into account.

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After watching the thrilling Moto3 and Moto2 races at the Balaton Park circuit in Hungary, we will soon see the new riders from the MotoGP class competing at the circuit. I really enjoyed the Moto2 race because the competition was really tense until finally David Alonso emerged as the winner in this race and this is the first time a rider from Colombia has won a Moto2 race. The Balaton Park circuit is quite narrow and it can provide such an interesting surprise when the riders cannot control their tires very well because when the rider cannot maintain their tires until the end of the lap, of course the rider will find it difficult to win.

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Bagnaia nowadays is not a good driver anymore and rumors about a kick from the team already rising.

Agree, I cant understand why Bagnaia is not getting better from race to race but he seems to be getting worse now.
He was better in the first several races this season, normally he and his team can improve and find solution of the issue he gets so far but in fact the result shows there is no improvement at all.
I think he is already giving up to compete even for the #2 rider this season, although his main competitor (Alex) is also not doing that good in the last several races but Alex is still doing better than Bagnaia.
Lets see what he can do today in the Hungary main race, if he cant do something or getting worse result then I think he wont stay in Ducati next season.

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Marco Bezzecchi and Morbidelli were unable to maintain their positions after briefly running in first and second place for several laps after the race began. Meanwhile, Marquez, using both medium tires, was able to accelerate quickly after overtaking Marco Bezzecchi, although Pedro Acosta, using the soft medium tire, was also able to take second place after overtaking Bezzecchi in second place. This indicates that the type of tire used by Marquez was more suitable than the type used by Acosta and Bezzecchi in this race.

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News of the day for F1
Caterham could enter in F1 As well from 2027 as 12th team.
For the one who don't remember, they were already in f1 in 2014 but they left for no money.

With the new regulation is easier for smaller teams to compete with the giants of F1.

What do you think about 24 cars in a track? imagine the chaos in Monaco qualifying.

I remember the times with 22 cars in the past. Was there ever a time in which there were even more cars in F1 history? If there is, I don't know or remember. 

But I wouldn't say no to more chaos! Caterham has experience so maybe they might make a nice comeback.

Let's see what Audi and Cadillac will do first in 2026...

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I remember the times with 22 cars in the past. Was there ever a time in which there were even more cars in F1 history? If there is, I don't know or remember. 

But I wouldn't say no to more chaos! Caterham has experience so maybe they might make a nice comeback.

Let's see what Audi and Cadillac will do first in 2026...

There was seasons between 2010-2012 when there was 12 teams or 24 cars on the grid. But problem was that 3 teams weren't competetive at all - I'm talking about Lotus/Caterham, Virging and HRT. They were ending races like 3 or 4 laps behind leaders.
Regulations allows up to 26 cars on the grid, but I'm afraid that adding more teams would reduce quality. Look at this season where all 10 teams iscapable to fight for points. I'm waitingfor Cadillac addition, but IMO, that's enough.

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1   Marc Marquez   SPA   Ducati Lenovo (GP25)   42m 37.681s
2   Pedro Acosta   SPA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +4.314s
3   Marco Bezzecchi   ITA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP25)   +7.488s
4   Jorge Martin   SPA   Aprilia Racing (RS-GP25)   +11.069s
5   Luca Marini   ITA   Honda HRC Castrol (RC213V)   +11.904s
6   Franco Morbidelli   ITA   Pertamina VR46 Ducati (GP24)   +12.608s
7   Brad Binder   RSA   Red Bull KTM (RC16)   +12.902s
8   Pol Espargaro   SPA   Red Bull KTM Tech3 (RC16)   +14.015s
9   Francesco Bagnaia   ITA   Ducati Lenovo (GP25)   +14.854s
10   Fabio Quartararo   FRA   Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1)   +15.473s

Marquez did it another time, a double.
We are at 14 consecutive wins, 7 Sprints and 7 Normal races, for a total of 14.

All time points record broken (but now we have more races and sprints)

Source: https://www.crash.net/motogp/results/1080014/1/2025-hungarian-motogp-balaton-park-race-results

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News of the day for F1
Caterham could enter in F1 As well from 2027 as 12th team.
For the one who don't remember, they were already in f1 in 2014 but they left for no money.

With the new regulation is easier for smaller teams to compete with the giants of F1.

What do you think about 24 cars in a track? imagine the chaos in Monaco qualifying.

Love it.  The Malaysian billionaire still own Caterham?  Was bullish on the guy when he went in F1.  Aston Martin and Lawrence Stroll kinda reminds me of Caterham and the Malaysian billionaire.  He came in for the glory with a pinch of idealism...  But pragmatism always prevails.

Anyway, race weekend coming guys... 

2025 F1 Dutch GP Schedule
Track:  Circuit Zandvoort



Aug 29, Friday:  Practice 1  12:30 - 13:30
Aug 29, Friday:  Practice 2  16:00 - 17:00
Aug 30, Saturday:  Practice 3  11:30 - 12:30
Aug 30, Saturday:  Qualifying  15:00 - 16:00
Aug 31, Sunday:  Race  15:00

2025 Dutch GP Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paN0N49Vh4k

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It race week.
And it will be a rain race week.
Once again with rain Mclaren is still even stronger cause they can generate more grip but atleast anything can happen.
If nothing crazy will happen they will go 1-2 seconds faster per lap under the rain

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^  So when it rains there's no edge to be had for Verstappen or Hamilton even tho they're good under wet conditions?  It's all McLaren because their car makes up for their drivers' deficiencies?

Man oh man if Ricciardo just stayed a little bit longer and if he took all the challenges with the right attitude, he prolly would be winning podiums right now. 

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It race week.
And it will be a rain race week.
Once again with rain Mclaren is still even stronger cause they can generate more grip but atleast anything can happen.
If nothing crazy will happen they will go 1-2 seconds faster per lap under the rain

McLaren will win this race again, just like last year, for sure. Unless Red Bull can come up with a better strategy or McLaren finds themselves in trouble, but that's a slim possibility considering their consistent recent form. However, I'm hoping for some rain to make the race more interesting.

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As anticipated the past week.
Perez and Bottas will be back in F1, with Cadillac.
The American team confirmed their line up for the next F1 Season.

Both drivers are 35yo, but the team is new so 1 year contract for both to bring their experience is a valid strategy IMHO.