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May 04, 2016, 03:01:25 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2016, 03:11:50 AM by Gyrsur
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Thanks, it seems a legit account.

EDIT: but I cannot find David Kleiman's name on the page  Huh

www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries12

Not even in the following page, where it seems are listed people passed away on 26 April.

you're right! nothing.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries13

so what does it mean? he is still alive?

EDIT: is there an official register of persons which passed away in the US?

Bruno, your help is much appreciated.

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May 04, 2016, 03:18:55 AM
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Thanks, it seems a legit account.

EDIT: but I cannot find David Kleiman's name on the page  Huh

www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries12

Not even in the following page, where it seems are listed people passed away on 26 April.

you're right! nothing.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries13

so what does it mean? he is still alive?

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That doesn't mean anything.

If his father's facebook profile and posting is to be believed to be real,
then you could assume his father was just posting to the JewishJournal
for them to take the info and make an obituary for him, but usually, you
would write to an email address of the Journal with the bio/death information
and then the webmaster/pagemaintainer/editor would post it in the next printing.

If his name can not be found (I did a google search with the Jewish Journal and
David Alan Kleiman and found no pages) then you could assume that his father
didn't properly contact the journal, for an official paper death notice.


Here is an online memorial site with 3 pages of condolences.
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/dignitymemorial/guestbook.aspx?n=david-kleiman&pid=164550367&page=3

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May 04, 2016, 03:21:40 AM
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so what does it mean? he is still alive?

I don't think so, unfortunately.

Kleiman's co-workers, Paige and Conrad, were interviewed by Gizmodo and I think we can trust their words untill now.
http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692
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May 04, 2016, 03:24:27 AM
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One more thing. How is that Craig Steven Wright was privy to David/Dave Kleiman's birthday but such is NOT published anywhere else on the Internet (Fact: Dave Kleiman was adopted)?

And he appears to have died on his birthday?

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The official cause of death is listed as natural, and Conrad remembers hearing that the MRSA had stopped Kleiman’s heart.

http://gizmodo.com/the-strange-life-and-death-of-dave-kleiman-a-computer-1747092460

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May 04, 2016, 03:26:39 AM
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Thanks, it seems a legit account.

EDIT: but I cannot find David Kleiman's name on the page  Huh

www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries12

Not even in the following page, where it seems are listed people passed away on 26 April.

you're right! nothing.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/obituaries/article/obituaries13

so what does it mean? he is still alive?

EDIT: is there a official register of persons in the US which passed away?

Bruno, your help is much appreciated.

Thanks, bud. Yes, there is no David/Dave Kleiman who died fitting his description, for I've looked and looked.

David Kleiman owned W&K INFO DEFENSE RESEARCH LLC in 2011: http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/SearchResultDetail?inquirytype=EntityName&directionType=Initial&searchNameOrder=WKINFODEFENSERESEARCH%20L110000199040&aggregateId=flal-l11000019904-dce79b55-176a-4442-93a7-3c8896316aa2&searchTerm=w%26k%20info&listNameOrder=WKINFODEFENSERESEARCH%20L110000199040



Craig Steven Wright via T Uyen T Nguyen takes over (perhaps nefariously) W&K INFO DEFENSE RESEARCH LLC on 3/28/2014, three weeks later becoming Coin-exch Pty. Ltd.'s director as seen here: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08248988/filing-history

http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationSearch/ConvertTiffToPDF?storagePath=COR%5C2014%5C0331%5C58356362.tif&documentNumber=L11000019904

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May 04, 2016, 03:26:45 AM
Last edit: May 04, 2016, 03:38:30 AM by Gyrsur
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so what does it mean? he is still alive?

I don't think so, unfortunately.

Kleiman's co-workers, Paige and Conrad, were interviewed by Gizmodo and I think we can trust their words untill now.
http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692


but we have a gap here:

I believe the closest we have to Satoshi these last years, is this: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

That particular email is not known to be hacked (but we can't say for sure that it isn't), there is no spoofing involved, and he also had to register and verify the email to the mailing list:

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010329.html
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010327.html
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010334.html

The writing style and essence of what is written does not have any troll like qualities like the spoofed "I'm not craig wright, we are all satoshi" message that appeared a few months later. The August one isn't spoofed, it is serious and consistent in writing style, while also trying to "sneak in" some comment of concern for bitcoin itself - as far as node incentives go. Kind'a like, since I broke my silence, let me also say this that is bothering me for a while.

As far as I'm concerned it is legit with very high probability. Which, in turn, would imply that if I'm right then Satoshi was alive a few months ago. It would also imply that Craig Wright writing with one space, instead of two, is fraudulent, and that no writing style change has occurred for Satoshi, despite the passing of time since 2010.

if this above is SN and SN is David Kleiman then he is alive.

Call me mad but it could be to protect David Kleiman. All the actions of the friends and family.

EDIT: and he wrote with two spaces!!

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

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May 04, 2016, 04:43:07 AM
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if this above is SN and SN is David Kleiman then he is alive.

Call me mad but it could be to protect David Kleiman. All the actions of the friends and family.

EDIT: and he wrote with two spaces!!

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010238.html

Well, everything could be...

But should it really be the case, then I personally would like to slow down here;
I think SN's anonymity, after all, is well deserved if he wants so.  Smiley
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May 04, 2016, 05:20:37 AM
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Here's the only proof that there's a CSW and SN connection published on the ironic date October 31, 2008: http://www.csu.edu.au/faculty/business/cdc/meetings/docs08/october/agenda.pdf

Search for Craig Wright within.
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May 04, 2016, 05:30:56 AM
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Gavin had the most correspondence with Satoshi, and I bet they argued over details as they were working out the bugs in the project.

The bitcoin space at large has mythologized Satoshi as a sort of selfless saint who never spoke an unkind word and who was perfect in every way. And that's partly why some people are upset - an unpleasant person had the technological idea of the century!

Nobody says Satoshi were or is perfect in any way. In Gavin's latest video interview he said Satoshi was a bit unstable, jumping from the one thing to the other and also a bit of a temper in a way. We should not make a human being out as some sort of God. He developed a piece of software that solved some problems FFS. ^hmmmm^

If you look at the original code, you would see his work was sloppy and his coding skills mediocre to say the least, and not much of that code remains to this day. So even that was not perfect.

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Satoshi or not.... he seems like a bit of a cunt doesn't he?

Funny how everyone wanted Satoshi to be some great noble guy and it turns out he's a right fucking Australian plonker - and a fucking cunt at the same time.  That is the funny bit. 

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Satoshi or not.... he seems like a bit of a cunt doesn't he?

Funny how everyone wanted Satoshi to be some great noble guy and it turns out he's a right fucking Australian plonker - and a fucking cunt at the same time.  That is the funny bit. 

Now-now.  Do not get ahead of yourself.  He said wright was "a bit of a cunt", not a "fucking cunt".  There is a measured difference between 'a bit of a cunt' and a 'fucking cunt'.  I think it is rather unfair to make that leap.
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Satoshi or not.... he seems like a bit of a cunt doesn't he?

Funny how everyone wanted Satoshi to be some great noble guy and it turns out he's a right fucking Australian plonker - and a fucking cunt at the same time.  That is the funny bit. 

Now-now.  Do not get ahead of yourself.  He said wright was "a bit of a cunt", not a "fucking cunt".  There is a measured difference between 'a bit of a cunt' and a 'fucking cunt'.  I think it is rather unfair to make that leap.

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May 04, 2016, 09:05:16 AM
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Well that is quite confusing conversation and much hard to believe on that statement, i don't believe anymore Satoshi is a person because there is wonderful possibility it was the code of name of this revolutionary project which called by Bitcoin, Satoshi character will remain mysterious and we will hear more funny stories about this in near future.
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May 04, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
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I don't have something to accept or deny this claim made by Dr.Craig but what I have read so far is showing different things.The experts are divided into two groups over his claims.Any way will be interesting to see where this story takes us in coming days.
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May 04, 2016, 09:07:37 AM
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Satoshi or not.... he seems like a bit of a cunt doesn't he?

Funny how everyone wanted Satoshi to be some great noble guy and it turns out he's a right fucking Australian plonker - and a fucking cunt at the same time.  That is the funny bit. 

Isnt the thread about the validation of the claims made thus far? Those subjective accusations / opinions dont get us anywhere ^^. Lets stay away from judging in that unproductive manner. If he can prove his claims and/or double validate, hands down - who cares if hes a real life cunt or mother theresa.

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Satoshi or not.... he seems like a bit of a cunt doesn't he?

Funny how everyone wanted Satoshi to be some great noble guy and it turns out he's a right fucking Australian plonker - and a fucking cunt at the same time.  That is the funny bit. 

Isnt the thread about the validation of the claims made thus far? Those subjective accusations / opinions dont get us anywhere ^^. Lets stay away from judging in that unproductive manner. If he can prove his claims and/or double validate, hands down - who cares if hes a real life cunt or mother theresa.

Whether he can validate his claims or not will ultimately determine how big of a cunt he is in real life.
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Until we got proof with signed message i dont believe it.

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I don't care how he looks like, that means nothing. I've a friend that if judge by apparency you probably think he is retarded, yet the guy is f'ing genius and another you may think he is bum yet has master on 7 engineerings, and yet another that looks like an engineer but is just a bum... Apparency means nothing.

Now, summing it up, we know whoever was using Satoshi as nickname, knows how to properly address the community and to properly sign his things.
Why would we give credit to someone showing up with lame attempts?! More over, what is there to gain on pose as Satoshi? There's no prize, no bounty for it... At best he would get a huge and warm thanks from the community, including mine, but that's it.
The only possible reason to be to fool investors and creditors waving a mystical fortune? Like that guy from Game of Thrones who had a big empty vault?

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May 04, 2016, 09:55:14 AM
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Why would we give credit to someone showing up with lame attempts?! More over, what is there to gain on pose as Satoshi? There's no prize, no bounty for it... At best he would get a huge and warm thanks from the community, including mine, but that's it.

Actually, as somebody else also talked about this on another thread, while we have an altcoin calling itself the right Bitcoin, some may hope that support from Satoshi would make their claim legit. And for this they need a Satoshi.

Then, Bitcoin is now something big. Only the television rights for this ... (I wanted to say farce, but maybe I'm wrong).. can fill nicely some pockets.
Which is strange since the real Satoshi would have quite a bunch of Bitcoin to spend for a wealthy life.

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Which is strange since the real Satoshi would have quite a bunch of Bitcoin to spend for a wealthy life.

Making it even stranger, this guy seams to have a load of bankruptcies in his historic, including past-strong-bitcoin ones.

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