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May 02, 2016, 07:40:22 PM
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This thread has fairly exploded today. Final conclusion after page one is the craig wright is definitely not satoshi and bbc are a bunch of muppets.  All in all pretty disappointing.

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May 02, 2016, 07:40:39 PM
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I don't know why people are assuming the worst of Gavin. Even if he's a smart guy, it isn't out of the question that he got tricked by a really smart con-man.

I think it's a lot less likely that Gavin would risk his reputation on something that obviously won't work like this.

In the position Gavin has, he can't be simply be fooled like that.
Losing his commit permission was a smart decision of the Bitcoin Team.

Also, good to see that people already found proof enough to just show that Craig is just an attention whore wanting some money to pay his taxes problems.


But he can make obvious lies that he obviously knows will be found out in a matter of hours? Come on.
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May 02, 2016, 07:40:50 PM
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Assuming CSW is trying to pull a hoax, he knows he is vulnerable to a fast, simple exposure anytime SN wants to expose him, unless CSW knows SN can't or won't do that.  Can't, as in Dave Kleiman, can't.

Dave had the goods, and died with them, beyond CSW's reach.   That's why no signature, no coin movement, no nutthin.



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May 02, 2016, 07:42:13 PM
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I really do not know what I have to believe but honestly I do believe that he is Satoshi but of course its not 100% that he is.
On the other hand if he is we can finally close the chapter about SN.
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May 02, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
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I really do not know what I have to believe but honestly I do believe that he is Satoshi but of course its not 100% that he is.
On the other hand if he is we can finally close the chapter about SN.

Satoshi already closed that chapter a while ago. Nothing left to close.
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May 02, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
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I think Craig Wright botched up his play big time. If he was the real Satoshi Nakamoto he wouldn't have needed the approval of any Bitcoin expert because he could have provided public proof accessible by the whole Bitcoin community and should not have tried to seek the authority of other people. If Bitcoin is decentralized by design Satoshi doesn't need to employ centralization to get verified in the first place.

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May 02, 2016, 07:56:04 PM
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Really big claims going on here without any solid evidence. What is the point of this, to distract from eth pump?

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May 02, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
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even his blog post is steal from another person lol Cheesy


Did Satoshi Steal My Blog Post?


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May 02, 2016, 08:01:14 PM
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even his blog post is steal from another person lol Cheesy


Did Satoshi Steal My Blog Post?


https://medium.com/@jprichardson/did-satoshi-steal-my-blog-post-76a68cdda4f3#.yyqprifuz


No way! This is the weirdest story ever.
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May 02, 2016, 08:06:45 PM
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even his blog post is steal from another person lol Cheesy


Did Satoshi Steal My Blog Post?


https://medium.com/@jprichardson/did-satoshi-steal-my-blog-post-76a68cdda4f3#.yyqprifuz

Oh WOW....just....WOW!

(I checked both posts, aside from some rewording here and there, its clear to see one is a rip off of the other)

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May 02, 2016, 08:13:14 PM
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The December 8, 2015, article is no more: http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/%E2%98%85

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May 02, 2016, 08:13:32 PM
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See how Andreas M. Antonopoulos got contacted ( https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hj1xu/why_i_declined_to_verify_sns_identity_two_weeks/ ) :

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About two weeks ago I was contacted and asked to offer security advice for a project. I was asked to sign an NDA in order to discuss the project itself, something I am reluctant to do, in general. Once I received the NDA however, it became obvious that the project was related to verifying the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. I immediately declined the offer, declined to participate and declined to sign the NDA.
I'm sure many people will think I was wrong to decline the "opportunity" to verify SN's identity. From my perspective, the request for me to verify his/her/their identity is in itself an appeal to authority. It is replacing public cryptographic proof with endorsement by a third party. If SN wants to "prove" their identity, they don't need an "authority" to do so. They can do it in a public, open manner. To ask people in the space who have a reputation to stake that reputation and vouch for SN's identity raises many red flags in my mind.
I don't know if Craig Wright is SN. I don't care and I don't want to know.
As I have expressed many times in the past, I think the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto does not matter. More importantly I think it serves to distract from the fact that bitcoin is not controlled by anyone and is not a system of Appeal-to-Authority. Identifying the creator only serves to feed the appeal-to-authority crowd, as if SN is some kind of infallible prophet, or has any say over bitcoin's future.
Identity and authority are distractions from a system of mathematical proof that does not require trust. This is not a telenovela. Bitcoin is a neutral framework of trust that can bring financial empowerment to billions of people. It works because it doesn't depend on any authority. Not even Satoshi's.
Back to work.




Andreas has always been a straight and honest person with ideals.
You have to give him credit for that not falling for greed and smear campaigns against others.
Now I'm convinced this is another social engineering attack against us.


I'm not familiar with Andreas, but I give him kudos for recognizing the inherently dishonest nature of this request. Satoshi can prove himself to every one of us directly.

Andreas is right, this was an attempt to use the Appeal to Authority argument. If there was no other way to identify Satoshi this might make sense. For example, I accept that Mt. Everest is the tallest mountain based on an appeal to authority, because I can't realistically go out and survey every mountain on the planet myself. We all rely on authorities heavily for our academic and everyday knowledge. But the authorities are only placeholders for better lines of evidence, and with Satoshi we all have access to those better arguments. So the failure of Wright to rely on the Appeal to Authority approach to his 'proof' is extremely telling - especially given how his blog post turns out to be a sham "proof."

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May 02, 2016, 08:13:44 PM
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even his blog post is steal from another person lol Cheesy


Did Satoshi Steal My Blog Post?


https://medium.com/@jprichardson/did-satoshi-steal-my-blog-post-76a68cdda4f3#.yyqprifuz

Oh WOW....just....WOW!

(I checked both posts, aside from some rewording here and there, its clear to see one is a rip off of the other)

Would be interesting to put a certain PhD paper to the same test...

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May 02, 2016, 08:15:30 PM
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even his blog post is steal from another person lol Cheesy


Did Satoshi Steal My Blog Post?


https://medium.com/@jprichardson/did-satoshi-steal-my-blog-post-76a68cdda4f3#.yyqprifuz


No way! This is the weirdest story ever.

This is awesome. It's like a I'm living a movie.
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The December 8, 2015, article is no more: http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/%E2%98%85




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Update 12/14/2015 2:40pm: New clues following the publication of this story have shown inconsistencies in Wright’s academic and supercomputing claims that may point to the second, strange possibility we noted: an elaborate, long-planned hoax.

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I'm not familiar with Andreas, but I give him kudos for recognizing the inherently dishonest nature of this request. Satoshi can prove himself to every one of us directly.

Hell, there's some theymos dude, whoever he is, posting over on Reddit.
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May 02, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
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The block chain ledger is all the proof we need!  That's its purpose....We don't have to trust anything or anybody else....not Gavin, not Craig, not the BBC, CNN, The Economist....etc.  By even listening to this stuff we are questioning the value of the network ledger, in my opinion.

Why would the initiator of the first trustless peer to peer accounting ledger need to appeal to a third party to validate his identity?  Huh?  He wanted the network to know, so he recruits the BBC and Gavin Andresen?  Sorry, that's against the principals of bitcoin, not the way it works!  
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May 02, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
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I really do not know what I have to believe but honestly I do believe that he is Satoshi but of course its not 100% that he is.
On the other hand if he is we can finally close the chapter about SN.

Satoshi already closed that chapter a while ago. Nothing left to close.
Satoshi is an entity not a person. Why can't people understand that. Sort of like Anonymous  Grin

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May 02, 2016, 08:24:35 PM
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Never a dull moment in the world of Bitcoin.


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Seems like this is happening more and more frequently and for some reason everyone still cares Tongue
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