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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 507173 times)
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March 23, 2018, 04:04:02 AM
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Its funny reading the posts in this forum, where people state there is an upper tier SHA-256 miner, better than the S9 already mining, prior to being sold.

They never provide any proof.  Sometimes they make claims that pool operators are being asked to alter code.  Once again NOT PROOF!

Sniff, sniff.  I smell FUD.

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-order-manufactured-by-tsmc-nanjing-fab-volume-production-in-may
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March 23, 2018, 07:26:57 AM
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I sent a few miners to Bitmain in LA for repair last December. I paid BTC per request. Then they asked me to pay BCH after 2 weeks and they said they would refund BTC. Ok I paid BCH. After 3 months they still have not sent the miners back as they promised the miners would be send out within 7 working days. I wonder whether it's only me having this issue or it's typical for repair.

Obviously Bitmain is dumping all the miners and they don't care about the service any more. Dealing with these Chinese companies is really painful. No wonder people would rather pay more on eBay for miners, instead of dealing with Bitmain directly.
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March 23, 2018, 09:04:55 AM
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I sent a few miners to Bitmain in LA for repair last December. I paid BTC per request. Then they asked me to pay BCH after 2 weeks and they said they would refund BTC. Ok I paid BCH. After 3 months they still have not sent the miners back as they promised the miners would be send out within 7 working days. I wonder whether it's only me having this issue or it's typical for repair.

Obviously Bitmain is dumping all the miners and they don't care about the service any more. Dealing with these Chinese companies is really painful. No wonder people would rather pay more on eBay for miners, instead of dealing with Bitmain directly.


1850 USD w/psu, it's actually cheaper right now to buy on ebag from a US shipper if you're in the US, no customs.

And Phillipma if you're around, the changes are making the s9 more profitable than my gpus for the moment, although that will probably change again.
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March 23, 2018, 01:35:46 PM
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Guys, I am confused  Huh

Antminer S9 14 TH/s batch is already sold out...like in 1 day.

What I don't get is why the demand is so high  Undecided

Look:

1) BTC is currently trading $8500
2) Antminer S9 14 TH/s price with APW3++ is $1864. With delivery costs and taxes that's about $2000
3) Antminer S9 currently produces about 0.001 BTC per day. That's 0,03 BTC per month. Taking into account difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce during its life 0,03 BTC * (1 + Monthly difficulty growth) / Monthly difficulty growth (since its infinitely decreasing geometric progression)
4) Average monthly difficulty growth
- in 2017 was 17%
- in 1Q 2018 is 23%
5) So with let's say 18% monthly difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce 0,03 BTC * (1 + 18%) / 18% = 0,197 BTC during its life
6) But now for the cost of equipment ($2000) you can buy $2000 / $8500 = 0,235 BTC

So you can get 0,235 BTC now or buy ASIC and get 0,197 BTC in like 2-3 years.

Whats the point? Why are people buying Mining equipment now?

Maybe I am wrong somewhere?

I don't account for transactions conformation fee. Is it large? How much in fees you get for one Antminer S9?
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March 23, 2018, 02:08:01 PM
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Guys, I am confused  Huh

Antminer S9 14 TH/s batch is already sold out...like in 1 day.

What I don't get is why the demand is so high  Undecided

Look:

1) BTC is currently trading $8500
2) Antminer S9 14 TH/s price with APW3++ is $1864. With delivery costs and taxes that's about $2000
3) Antminer S9 currently produces about 0.001 BTC per day. That's 0,03 BTC per month. Taking into account difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce during its life 0,03 BTC * (1 + Monthly difficulty growth) / Monthly difficulty growth (since its infinitely decreasing geometric progression)
4) Average monthly difficulty growth
- in 2017 was 17%
- in 1Q 2018 is 23%
5) So with let's say 18% monthly difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce 0,03 BTC * (1 + 18%) / 18% = 0,197 BTC during its life
6) But now for the cost of equipment ($2000) you can buy $2000 / $8500 = 0,235 BTC

So you can get 0,235 BTC now or buy ASIC and get 0,197 BTC in like 2-3 years.

Whats the point? Why are people buying Mining equipment now?

Maybe I am wrong somewhere?

I don't account for transactions conformation fee. Is it large? How much in fees you get for one Antminer S9?


Per     Pool Fee           Est. Rewards   Rev. BTC   Rev. $   Cost            Profit


Month 0.000000   0.031014           0.031014   $259.15   $98.64    $160.51
Year     0.000000   0.377333           0.377333   $3,153.00   $1,200.12    $1,952.88

With 2k USD today you can buy 0.23770460 BTC and sell is when it raises with 1,952.88 usd so that you can be happy you got more than miners will ever do for an year Smiley


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March 23, 2018, 03:36:54 PM
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Guys, I am confused  Huh

Antminer S9 14 TH/s batch is already sold out...like in 1 day.

What I don't get is why the demand is so high  Undecided

Look:

1) BTC is currently trading $8500
2) Antminer S9 14 TH/s price with APW3++ is $1864. With delivery costs and taxes that's about $2000
3) Antminer S9 currently produces about 0.001 BTC per day. That's 0,03 BTC per month. Taking into account difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce during its life 0,03 BTC * (1 + Monthly difficulty growth) / Monthly difficulty growth (since its infinitely decreasing geometric progression)
4) Average monthly difficulty growth
- in 2017 was 17%
- in 1Q 2018 is 23%
5) So with let's say 18% monthly difficulty growth Antminer S9 will produce 0,03 BTC * (1 + 18%) / 18% = 0,197 BTC during its life
6) But now for the cost of equipment ($2000) you can buy $2000 / $8500 = 0,235 BTC

So you can get 0,235 BTC now or buy ASIC and get 0,197 BTC in like 2-3 years.

Whats the point? Why are people buying Mining equipment now?

Maybe I am wrong somewhere?

I don't account for transactions conformation fee. Is it large? How much in fees you get for one Antminer S9?


Per     Pool Fee           Est. Rewards   Rev. BTC   Rev. $   Cost            Profit


Month 0.000000   0.031014           0.031014   $259.15   $98.64    $160.51
Year     0.000000   0.377333           0.377333   $3,153.00   $1,200.12    $1,952.88

With 2k USD today you can buy 0.23770460 BTC and sell is when it raises with 1,952.88 usd so that you can be happy you got more than miners will ever do for an year Smiley




Because you are not taking into account the resale value of the miner. While it is going down a little every day, IT IS NOT 0.
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March 23, 2018, 04:06:19 PM
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So has anyone adjusted their Bmminer to activate AsicBoost on AntPool?
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March 23, 2018, 06:42:48 PM
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Its funny reading the posts in this forum, where people state there is an upper tier SHA-256 miner, better than the S9 already mining, prior to being sold.

They never provide any proof.  Sometimes they make claims that pool operators are being asked to alter code.  Once again NOT PROOF!

Sniff, sniff.  I smell FUD.

http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-order-manufactured-by-tsmc-nanjing-fab-volume-production-in-may


Why don't you fly to China to check it out for yourself?  Oh that's right, you want everything spoon fed to you.   Huh Huh Huh
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March 23, 2018, 09:14:44 PM
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Question: Looking for S9/841 boards without heat sinks and main control boards.  Don't need anything else.  Does anyone have a resource that you could point me to for this?
Thanks in advance,
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March 24, 2018, 03:59:55 AM
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I too bought 10 units a few weeks ago for 2500 shipped each after all said, and done. Then they sold 14th models for 1800+ with PSU! I am really pissed off, and I can't even sell my unit to break even, and it will take 13-14 months just to cover the cost of the miner even with my per KW rate is .06 cents and no rent. Sad

I feel like the only option now is to run them..don't really want to sell for a loss, when they are brand new, and just arrived. Sad

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March 24, 2018, 05:51:27 AM
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Question: Looking for S9/841 boards without heat sinks and main control boards.  Don't need anything else.  Does anyone have a resource that you could point me to for this?
Thanks in advance,
would you please be more clear never heard of without heat sinks Huh

always have antminers and psu for sale please dm
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March 24, 2018, 11:21:33 AM
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I too bought 10 units a few weeks ago for 2500 shipped each after all said, and done. Then they sold 14th models for 1800+ with PSU! I am really pissed off, and I can't even sell my unit to break even, and it will take 13-14 months just to cover the cost of the miner even with my per KW rate is .06 cents and no rent. Sad

I feel like the only option now is to run them..don't really want to sell for a loss, when they are brand new, and just arrived. Sad

yes, I agree, it's really annoying. let's hope new model is not coming soon.
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March 24, 2018, 12:46:49 PM
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Hi everybody! What do you think about the mining in 2018?

Manufacturers of popular cards raise prices very much.
Maybe this will be the impetus for new video card manufacturers to enter the market?
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March 25, 2018, 07:03:58 AM
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I too bought 10 units a few weeks ago for 2500 shipped each after all said, and done. Then they sold 14th models for 1800+ with PSU! I am really pissed off, and I can't even sell my unit to break even, and it will take 13-14 months just to cover the cost of the miner even with my per KW rate is .06 cents and no rent. Sad

I feel like the only option now is to run them..don't really want to sell for a loss, when they are brand new, and just arrived. Sad

yes, I agree, it's really annoying. let's hope new model is not coming soon.

Mining difficulty is too high as it is. I hope no new model either. That would damage everything.

New algos like the antiminer A3 at good prices are welcome Smiley

Selling 100 dollar coupons (8units expire 11th June, 14 units expire 1st july) and 125 dollar coupon (2 unit exp 30th June). Selling at 20% of value
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March 25, 2018, 07:05:22 AM
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Hello experts,

Need to get your advise on something.

did any of you tried connecting 2 S9s to 1 5" exhaust? I am running out of space and need to "combine exhausts".

I am using a 1.5m length 5" ducting for each S9 and it appears that the 5" ducting can support more air flow as it is not that strong.

Thanks.
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March 25, 2018, 11:27:32 AM
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So far there is no indication that there is a better chip coming out. There are only rumors of improved models to be underway.

BTC-ASIC is located in the same city with close contacts to the manufacturer and so far the S9 with the 16nm technology is the best. Available at our shop:

http://b-asic.io/product/antminer-s9/

Great time for buyers! Dont miss it  Wink
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March 25, 2018, 12:08:00 PM
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So far there is no indication that there is a better chip coming out. There are only rumors of improved models to be underway.

BTC-ASIC is located in the same city with close contacts to the manufacturer and so far the S9 with the 16nm technology is the best. Available at our shop:

http://b-asic.io/product/antminer-s9/

Great time for buyers! Dont miss it  Wink

lol and why would anyone pay those ridiculous prices?
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March 25, 2018, 12:37:43 PM
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So far there is no indication that there is a better chip coming out. There are only rumors of improved models to be underway.

BTC-ASIC is located in the same city with close contacts to the manufacturer and so far the S9 with the 16nm technology is the best. Available at our shop:

http://b-asic.io/product/antminer-s9/

Great time for buyers! Dont miss it  Wink

lol and why would anyone pay those ridiculous prices?

Shipping with DHL is included + safe purchase thru PayPal, 100% reliability
Everybody can decide for themselves if thats worth it. We have other products where the price might be more appealing to you. Prices for large quantities are negotiable of course. Contact us if you like.

http://b-asic.io/
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March 25, 2018, 05:22:38 PM
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I'd like to buy some miners and pay double, anyone know a place to do that?


Bahaha.
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March 25, 2018, 06:10:01 PM
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I'd like to buy some miners and pay double, anyone know a place to do that?


Bahaha.

 Grin Grin
check out the website, D3 is sold out, but not here:

http://b-asic.io/product/antminer-d3/

price is very good, 750 USD including shipping with DHL  Wink
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