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January 24, 2018, 06:02:56 PM
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We've had a good experience with ordering from the Bitmain website. We have shipped it to our data center in Georgia and Iceland. No issues so far. My only complaint with the site is that it is very slow (not optimized for the peak ordering traffic). Also, the payment terms can be standardized. We always need to prepare for any new batch. There is no consistency in terms of what currency is being accepted. Sometimes its BCH only. Sometimes its wire and BCH.

But overall, we are happy so far. We wish we could take delivery in China and arrange our own shipping. It would work out so much cheaper. But that's not possible as of now.

They are obviously making money on the shipping part
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January 25, 2018, 04:07:47 AM
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what do you guys think about this representative?

https://blockwaresolutions.com/

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January 25, 2018, 12:45:36 PM
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what do you guys think about this representative?

https://blockwaresolutions.com/



They dont let you buy. You need to fill a form to get a quote. You should probably look at the payment options that they give you. That will give you a semi-decent idea about their authenticity.
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January 25, 2018, 01:49:09 PM
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Guys, did you get the update from Bitmain via e-mail - they are changing their address in China, so be careful if you ship any equipment back for repair or so (knock on wood). Although they said they will still receive at the old address.

Also, all of the miners in The US should be so lucky, according to the same e-mail - Bitmain have a service representative in The US (so no need to ship to Asia).

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January 25, 2018, 11:18:18 PM
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Do you expect next batch of S9 to go for sale below 2000$?

Because the profitability is down from before? I think news sources created a media frenzy which caused it.
I got a feeling it wont be below 2000 though.
I hope mining didficulty drops. It is way too high now.

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January 26, 2018, 12:26:49 AM
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Do you expect next batch of S9 to go for sale below 2000$?

Because the profitability is down from before? I think news sources created a media frenzy which caused it.
I got a feeling it wont be below 2000 though.
I hope mining didficulty drops. It is way too high now.

While I can't comment on the S9 price, I feel qualified to comment on difficulty.

I expect difficulty will continue to rise, until it "catches up" with BTC price. I think the best you can hope for is a slowing in the rate of increase, as long as the price stays in the $11,000 range. Since 2013, I haven't seen a sustained decline in difficulty that lasted more than 2-3 cycles. I have a seen it "plateau" for a few months, but that didn't last more than 6 months or so. Now that folks have seen that BTC can spike to $20,000 I think it will be a while before folks give up on the dream of "getting rich". I expect that mining hardware will command a good price for a while. FOMO will take months  to dissipate in my opinion.
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January 26, 2018, 12:42:16 AM
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With the high dificulty increase is the s9 still profitable
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January 26, 2018, 12:43:18 AM
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With the high dificulty increase is the s9 still profitable

Yes, and when the price of BTC goes back up, the profits should be slightly higher.
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January 26, 2018, 05:44:23 AM
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With the high dificulty increase is the s9 still profitable

Yes, and when the price of BTC goes back up, the profits should be slightly higher.
s/when/if ?
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January 26, 2018, 11:36:29 AM
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Do you expect next batch of S9 to go for sale below 2000$?

Because the profitability is down from before? I think news sources created a media frenzy which caused it.
I got a feeling it wont be below 2000 though.
I hope mining didficulty drops. It is way too high now.

While I can't comment on the S9 price, I feel qualified to comment on difficulty.

I expect difficulty will continue to rise, until it "catches up" with BTC price. I think the best you can hope for is a slowing in the rate of increase, as long as the price stays in the $11,000 range. Since 2013, I haven't seen a sustained decline in difficulty that lasted more than 2-3 cycles. I have a seen it "plateau" for a few months, but that didn't last more than 6 months or so. Now that folks have seen that BTC can spike to $20,000 I think it will be a while before folks give up on the dream of "getting rich". I expect that mining hardware will command a good price for a while. FOMO will take months  to dissipate in my opinion.

The media should stop sensationalizing things as if it is so easy. Those ebay prices are juz nuts high.
The thing is if btc price has to keep going up alot for mining to be decently profitable, it would be far better to juz buy btc than mining equipment.

Last year btc went from 800 to 10k now. Thats a 12x increase and difficulty increased to the point mining is only so profitable now.
If btc has to increase 12x again for mining to be decently profitable at end of year, wont it juz be better to buy btc than to mine??
And it is not likely to increase 12x this year it seems. If price doesnt increase but difficulty increases, this isnt gonna be good.
Lets hope bitmain retains the monopoly. More manufacturers and difficulty increasing is the last thing needed right now.

Just my opinion and I could be wrong.

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January 26, 2018, 11:55:18 AM
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With the high dificulty increase is the s9 still profitable

Yes, and when the price of BTC goes back up, the profits should be slightly higher.

I woke up this morning, checked my miners, checked what-to-mine, and I was utterly surprised to find out that profitability from one S9 currently is ~350 USD per month. It is true that difficulty increased one day ago, but profitability is ridiculous now.
I'll still be mining though, once you started you should not give up.

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January 26, 2018, 10:59:50 PM
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With the high dificulty increase is the s9 still profitable

Yes, and when the price of BTC goes back up, the profits should be slightly higher.

I woke up this morning, checked my miners, checked what-to-mine, and I was utterly surprised to find out that profitability from one S9 currently is ~350 USD per month. It is true that difficulty increased one day ago, but profitability is ridiculous now.
I'll still be mining though, once you started you should not give up.

I would say that's a little low but probably not to far off. It also depends on where you mine and how you mine and your electricity cost. I think it's probably closer to $400-$450 per month at the moment for 1 s9 with the current difficulty and price of btc at around $10,800. If btc goes to around $8000 it will not be good for miners. I feel if the price of btc was holding around $14000-$16000 right now it would be a great to be mining. So I'm going to keep mining and hold.
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January 27, 2018, 12:07:46 AM
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If u paid 2300$ for a miner and u are getting 350$ per month thats not so bad, u are gonna ROI in 8 months. BUT, price will go up eventually, first months of the year are always bad for btc price, then the price starts increasing more and more until december

I wonder in what business u can invest 100k and get ROI before 1 year and make a return of 12% or more monthly

Ppl are still profiting from Antminers s7 right now and they had them for 4 years AND THEY ARE STILL selling the damn things for 1100$ when they bought them for like 500$. So you are looking at makiing profit for a whole year and getting AT LEAST your money back by selling the S9

Dont worry, if profit gets too low a lot of miners will go offline and difficulty will get easier or it will go up in minimal %

PD: In the calc i use a 13.5 s9 is giving 430$ monthly, also i doubt ull choose a a day/hour to sell when it is going down for example today's high was 11700
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January 27, 2018, 04:22:51 AM
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If u paid 2300$ for a miner and u are getting 350$ per month thats not so bad, u are gonna ROI in 8 months. BUT, price will go up eventually, first months of the year are always bad for btc price, then the price starts increasing more and more until december

I wonder in what business u can invest 100k and get ROI before 1 year and make a return of 12% or more monthly

Ppl are still profiting from Antminers s7 right now and they had them for 4 years AND THEY ARE STILL selling the damn things for 1100$ when they bought them for like 500$. So you are looking at makiing profit for a whole year and getting AT LEAST your money back by selling the S9

Dont worry, if profit gets too low a lot of miners will go offline and difficulty will get easier or it will go up in minimal %

PD: In the calc i use a 13.5 s9 is giving 430$ monthly, also i doubt ull choose a a day/hour to sell when it is going down for example today's high was 11700

If that rate is going to be the same for 8 months, I would be happy. The miners will not go offline even if profits are low. People will just mine. Look at D3 for example, people are still mining even if it is low profit. Low profit is better than nothing u see.

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January 27, 2018, 08:37:53 AM
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If u paid 2300$ for a miner and u are getting 350$ per month thats not so bad, u are gonna ROI in 8 months. BUT, price will go up eventually, first months of the year are always bad for btc price, then the price starts increasing more and more until december

I wonder in what business u can invest 100k and get ROI before 1 year and make a return of 12% or more monthly

Ppl are still profiting from Antminers s7 right now and they had them for 4 years AND THEY ARE STILL selling the damn things for 1100$ when they bought them for like 500$. So you are looking at makiing profit for a whole year and getting AT LEAST your money back by selling the S9

Dont worry, if profit gets too low a lot of miners will go offline and difficulty will get easier or it will go up in minimal %

PD: In the calc i use a 13.5 s9 is giving 430$ monthly, also i doubt ull choose a a day/hour to sell when it is going down for example today's high was 11700

If that rate is going to be the same for 8 months, I would be happy. The miners will not go offline even if profits are low. People will just mine. Look at D3 for example, people are still mining even if it is low profit. Low profit is better than nothing u see.

"...there is lot of fud in market right now: korea ban, wall street shorting BTC, CME BTC futures contract, korea taxation... why all these things are happening at the same time doesn't it seems all this is planned big guys are playing with us so that they can win in futures contract?!

all this is because of CME futures contract that will expires/expired on 26th of jan. on 17th of jan Cboe futures contract expired at 10900$ and bears win and just after 5 hours 200 billion dollars came back in market. so we may see a good pump in alts and BTC too after 26th jan.

Meanwhile in korea some banks will work with crypto exchanges with new taxation rules from 30th jan.
BTC lightining network is coming
CME BTC future expired on 26th jan.
one Japanese company started part of there salary in BTC

So all this indicates that big players, banks, companies and whales
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January 27, 2018, 08:56:33 AM
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If u paid 2300$ for a miner and u are getting 350$ per month thats not so bad, u are gonna ROI in 8 months. BUT, price will go up eventually, first months of the year are always bad for btc price, then the price starts increasing more and more until december

I wonder in what business u can invest 100k and get ROI before 1 year and make a return of 12% or more monthly

Ppl are still profiting from Antminers s7 right now and they had them for 4 years AND THEY ARE STILL selling the damn things for 1100$ when they bought them for like 500$. So you are looking at makiing profit for a whole year and getting AT LEAST your money back by selling the S9

Dont worry, if profit gets too low a lot of miners will go offline and difficulty will get easier or it will go up in minimal %

PD: In the calc i use a 13.5 s9 is giving 430$ monthly, also i doubt ull choose a a day/hour to sell when it is going down for example today's high was 11700

If that rate is going to be the same for 8 months, I would be happy. The miners will not go offline even if profits are low. People will just mine. Look at D3 for example, people are still mining even if it is low profit. Low profit is better than nothing u see.

"...there is lot of fud in market right now: korea ban, wall street shorting BTC, CME BTC futures contract, korea taxation... why all these things are happening at the same time doesn't it seems all this is planned big guys are playing with us so that they can win in futures contract?!

all this is because of CME futures contract that will expires/expired on 26th of jan. on 17th of jan Cboe futures contract expired at 10900$ and bears win and just after 5 hours 200 billion dollars came back in market. so we may see a good pump in alts and BTC too after 26th jan.

Meanwhile in korea some banks will work with crypto exchanges with new taxation rules from 30th jan.
BTC lightining network is coming
CME BTC future expired on 26th jan.
one Japanese company started part of there salary in BTC

So all this indicates that big players, banks, companies and whales


One cannot assume that wat happen last year to prices will do the same thing this year.

I hope u are right buddy Smiley

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January 27, 2018, 11:35:26 AM
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I think prices are reduced these days because of lower bitcoin price. You can also check https://www.evaminer.com/ . I think they have launched recently and their prices looks good.
Their prices look good? Hahahha fuck off
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January 27, 2018, 01:46:34 PM
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I think prices are reduced these days because of lower bitcoin price. You can also check https://www.evaminer.com/ . I think they have launched recently and their prices looks good.

How are they selling pre-sale march A3 when there is no such thing? OOOOPS busted
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January 28, 2018, 11:18:11 AM
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Whether we like it or not, S9s are still very profitable to buy and run. I've been hearing arguments about difficulty increase for a year now. True, the BTC price jumps helped. But until BTC price drops to USD 2500 or the current difficulty triples without any increase in BTC price, S9s will keep running (approx calculations). Focus on getting a good colocation to place your miners or build a colo yourself. Your machines will run for a very long time if you keep colo costs low.

Also, regarding the newer machines that have come/are coming to the market. I'm excited to see competitors, but I really want to get a few hands-on reviews from regular guys like us, before deciding to stop supporting S9s.

Eagerly waiting for the GMO machines...
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January 28, 2018, 12:52:13 PM
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Whether we like it or not, S9s are still very profitable to buy and run. I've been hearing arguments about difficulty increase for a year now. True, the BTC price jumps helped. But until BTC price drops to USD 2500 or the current difficulty triples without any increase in BTC price, S9s will keep running (approx calculations). Focus on getting a good colocation to place your miners or build a colo yourself. Your machines will run for a very long time if you keep colo costs low.

Also, regarding the newer machines that have come/are coming to the market. I'm excited to see competitors, but I really want to get a few hands-on reviews from regular guys like us, before deciding to stop supporting S9s.

Eagerly waiting for the GMO machines...


..and I think that most who started with 1 miner was for the sake of fun and mining more than an investment and immediate ROI or get rich, with that temptation of buying more after few month and start looking at solutions for power and keeping the miners cool  Smiley

If you take care of your miner they will last beyond the ROI. My initial 2 S9 are running since 1.5 years non stop and never had any issues so far (touch wood  Roll Eyes )
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