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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 509455 times)
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January 16, 2018, 11:32:28 AM
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Can someone explain me how USD wire transfers works? can i pay that with visa card or what?

geeee... you just go to your bank (or online) and transfer the money from your account to the given account  Huh

So in theory i must run to my bank with given account and transfer money to bitman, right?
With that method i don't have a chance of buying miner like never.
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January 16, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
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Can someone explain me how USD wire transfers works? can i pay that with visa card or what?

It is easy, you can try to buy the PSU right now with wire transfer, just to test how it goes.
Go to the website and do the regular order, then on payment option choose "Bank Transfer"
Then on order completion, the system will give you bank details and you have 7 days to wire them from your bank.
See the screenshot:

https://www.screencast.com/t/xboJ0vIObi

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January 16, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
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Can someone explain me how USD wire transfers works? can i pay that with visa card or what?

It is easy, you can try to buy the PSU right now with wire transfer, just to test how it goes.
Go to the website and do the regular order, then on payment option choose "Bank Transfer"
Then on order completion, the system will give you bank details and you have 7 days to wire them from your bank.
See the screenshot:

https://www.screencast.com/t/xboJ0vIObi

Ty for that one more question.

After i complete order and and chose payment medot via wire transfer (i mean i have 7 days to make payment), at that point is my order guaranteed or i can lose it if someone make quicker payment than me.
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January 16, 2018, 12:03:11 PM
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Can someone explain me how USD wire transfers works? can i pay that with visa card or what?

It is easy, you can try to buy the PSU right now with wire transfer, just to test how it goes.
Go to the website and do the regular order, then on payment option choose "Bank Transfer"
Then on order completion, the system will give you bank details and you have 7 days to wire them from your bank.
See the screenshot:

https://www.screencast.com/t/xboJ0vIObi

Ty for that one more question.

After i complete order and and chose payment medot via wire transfer (i mean i have 7 days to make payment), at that point is my order guaranteed or i can lose it if someone make quicker payment than me.

Usually, at least from experience when trading with other online shops - if you shop with wire transfer, you are supposed to have online banking i.e. do it online (not go to the bank). So it means that you can wire the money instantly (even faster than doing the bitcoin payment - yeeeei) and send bitmain a screenshot that your bank wire is done. I guess this would guarantee your spot for sure.

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January 16, 2018, 12:40:17 PM
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Can someone explain me how USD wire transfers works? can i pay that with visa card or what?

It is easy, you can try to buy the PSU right now with wire transfer, just to test how it goes.
Go to the website and do the regular order, then on payment option choose "Bank Transfer"
Then on order completion, the system will give you bank details and you have 7 days to wire them from your bank.
See the screenshot:

https://www.screencast.com/t/xboJ0vIObi

Ty for that one more question.

After i complete order and and chose payment medot via wire transfer (i mean i have 7 days to make payment), at that point is my order guaranteed or i can lose it if someone make quicker payment than me.

Usually, at least from experience when trading with other online shops - if you shop with wire transfer, you are supposed to have online banking i.e. do it online (not go to the bank). So it means that you can wire the money instantly (even faster than doing the bitcoin payment - yeeeei) and send bitmain a screenshot that your bank wire is done. I guess this would guarantee your spot for sure.

Some online backing transfers does not have a field to type the order ID and to pay for the fees.
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January 16, 2018, 01:26:49 PM
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Lol last night the funniest glitch happened while ordering. Upon adding 10 s9s to my cart, when I clicked checkout, magically 5 batch 5 s5s were added as well for $400. Yes you read that correct. Talk about going back in time haha.

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January 16, 2018, 01:48:39 PM
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Does emailing bitmain result in any faster shipping? I'm in tbe January 10-21 batch and still have not received any shipping information. I've seen a few people here with the same batch who have thier items shipped.

I assume the answer is no, but thought I would ask anyway.
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January 16, 2018, 01:57:10 PM
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I received the "people are queuing" message as well.  I made it all the way to the purchase agreement twice, and got kicked out doing the captcha at the end.   One of the most frustrating purchases that I never got to make...   If anyone needs to have a few they over ordered taken off their hands...  We can work something out.   Grin
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January 16, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
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I received the "people are queuing" message as well.  I made it all the way to the purchase agreement twice, and got kicked out doing the captcha at the end.   One of the most frustrating purchases that I never got to make...   If anyone needs to have a few they over ordered taken off their hands...  We can work something out.   Grin

I have 2 waiting for wire transfer, being shipped to me in New Jersey that I don't need. If you can come up with a plan to take it over let me know
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January 16, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
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What shipping method do you guys use? And Why? I use DHL twice so far and it seems fine to Canada and it's cheapest? Any reason for this? I have used UPS in past two and they seem to be same time for delivery.

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January 16, 2018, 03:04:15 PM
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I'd second DHL to the Great White North!  BiteMe sent a replacement RMA'd unit via FedEx and it sat in an office for a month... Shocked

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January 16, 2018, 03:13:40 PM
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does anyone know how many s9 they sold today?
i missed it again...
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January 16, 2018, 03:16:29 PM
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Also they increased the price of LTC miner? Why?

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January 16, 2018, 03:17:19 PM
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I have 2 waiting for wire transfer, being shipped to me in New Jersey that I don't need. If you can come up with a plan to take it over let me know

I wonder if Bitmain may be able to help facilitate this, or if we would have to sort it ourselves.  I shot them an e-mail, but it's 11PM over there.   Got any ideas?
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January 16, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
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I have 2 waiting for wire transfer, being shipped to me in New Jersey that I don't need. If you can come up with a plan to take it over let me know

I wonder if Bitmain may be able to help facilitate this, or if we would have to sort it ourselves.  I shot them an e-mail, but it's 11PM over there.   Got any ideas?

No ideas. I would have to send you the wore transfer instructions, and then I have to upload the proof of payment to them to finalize. I don't think they will change address and I have 2 other pending shipments so I can't risk messing up where they get sent
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January 16, 2018, 04:14:50 PM
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I just paid 46.47$ in TAX to Canada on this.. order (41.12% of the total value). I thought it was like 5-10%


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January 16, 2018, 05:59:01 PM
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Also they increased the price of LTC miner? Why?

Probably because shipping date is within 10 days after payment.

Makes me wonder if bitmain is starting to shift their stock because of china ban
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January 16, 2018, 09:16:37 PM
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I have 2 waiting for wire transfer, being shipped to me in New Jersey that I don't need. If you can come up with a plan to take it over let me know

I wonder if Bitmain may be able to help facilitate this, or if we would have to sort it ourselves.  I shot them an e-mail, but it's 11PM over there.   Got any ideas?

No ideas. I would have to send you the wore transfer instructions, and then I have to upload the proof of payment to them to finalize. I don't think they will change address and I have 2 other pending shipments so I can't risk messing up where they get sent

Send me a PM i think i may be able to help. I'm located in NY.
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January 16, 2018, 11:59:37 PM
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I know I’ve said it yesterday but I’ll repeat it again today: Unless I am missing something, this is just crazy!

I really can’t see why you would buy an S9 now, the total bitcoin network hashrate is growing faster than ever, so unless BTC value surges again (massively) this year you just won’t get your money back on your investment.
The only money to be made now is in selling miners, not in mining!
After a few months of mining I just sold my used 13TH S9 on Ebay for $2600 more than I bought it, I will be putting that profit into Bitcoin. There is no way that an S9 will make another $2600 as of this point in time, unless BTC surges as said before

But don’t just take my word for it, please have a look at the numbers below.



What I’ve done is forecast the total network hashrate for 2018 based on 2017 numbers. I’ve used basic Excel forecasting to do this.
As you can see, I’ve created a forecast, an upper bound forecast (pessimistic in this case) and lower bound forecast (optimistic in this case).
Then I’ve created 3 tables predicting how much Bitcoin one S9 will make every month based on this forecast, how much revenue that is un USD based on the current BTC/USD exchange rate and how much profit you would make based on a $150/month power cost for 1 S9.

Now, based on these numbers the only way an S9 that starts mining today will pay back your investment, is if the network hashrate follows the lower bound (optimistic) forecast which ends up flattening out again, looking at the graph alone that just seems very unlikely!

Both the standard and upper bound forecast predict profit to go negative by the end of the year.

I’m happy to share this spreadsheet with anybody who wants to play with the numbers.
Bottom line,
My bet is: sell your S9’s while you can make a good profit on them, hold BTC and wait for the next opportunity when this madness dies down a bit (or perhaps the next generation of miners?)
Of course, to each their own. Who knows what the bitcoin value will be by the end of the year and that said, you might just enjoy mining, I know I did :-).
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January 17, 2018, 12:09:13 AM
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I know I’ve said it yesterday but I’ll repeat it again today: Unless I am missing something, this is just crazy!

I really can’t see why you would buy an S9 now, the total bitcoin network hashrate is growing faster than ever, so unless BTC value surges again (massively) this year you just won’t get your money back on your investment.
The only money to be made now is in selling miners, not in mining!
After a few months of mining I just sold my used 13TH S9 on Ebay for $2600 more than I bought it, I will be putting that profit into Bitcoin. There is no way that an S9 will make another $2600 as of this point in time, unless BTC surges as said before

But don’t just take my word for it, please have a look at the numbers below.



What I’ve done is forecast the total network hashrate for 2018 based on 2017 numbers. I’ve used basic Excel forecasting to do this.
As you can see, I’ve created a forecast, an upper bound forecast (pessimistic in this case) and lower bound forecast (optimistic in this case).
Then I’ve created 3 tables predicting how much Bitcoin one S9 will make every month based on this forecast, how much revenue that is un USD based on the current BTC/USD exchange rate and how much profit you would make based on a $150/month power cost for 1 S9.

Now, based on these numbers the only way an S9 that starts mining today will pay back your investment, is if the network hashrate follows the lower bound (optimistic) forecast which ends up flattening out again, looking at the graph alone that just seems very unlikely!

Both the standard and upper bound forecast predict profit to go negative by the end of the year.

I’m happy to share this spreadsheet with anybody who wants to play with the numbers.
Bottom line,
My bet is: sell your S9’s while you can make a good profit on them, hold BTC and wait for the next opportunity when this madness dies down a bit (or perhaps the next generation of miners?)
Of course, to each their own. Who knows what the bitcoin value will be by the end of the year and that said, you might just enjoy mining, I know I did :-).


I appreciated you sharing your hardwork and your view of the BTC future price. But I think your post should be in speculation section.

Having said that, let me be the first to point out that your graph didn't factor in the banning of mining in China, which is about 70% of global mining population.

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