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January 11, 2018, 01:40:59 PM
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Has anybody got notice for Jan 11 to 20

No still waiting for my notice

i am still waiting too
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January 11, 2018, 02:21:32 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

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January 11, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

 Way better than me. My average ICOD fee on the past 20 miners is $47.91 each. My UPS guys knows the routine so well he simply says... Got the check ready? Luckily, their are no import fees at this time on PSU's, only the miners.

 Their shipping rates have gone way up starting with all Feb. batch and beyond. Almost double.

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January 11, 2018, 02:50:21 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

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January 11, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

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Hey, do you mean that by choosing the more expensive option with UPS - you got lower fees and better service? It was actually a small hell on Earth dealing with DHL guys here. Also, don't you guys have 20% customs duties for everything shipped from outside the US?

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January 11, 2018, 03:11:05 PM
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Has anybody got notice for Jan 11 to 20

 I got 2 of mine in back before Christmas. Earliest I have ever seen them deliver, the other 2 in the same batch got here yesterday. Im in AR.

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My Jan 21 - 30 was delivered on dec 21. Amazing.


My dec 21-31 was moved to Jan 11-20

It shipped today.

And one board on the ones delivered on dec is dead.

Not complaining as I paid around 7k for 5 s-9s

They are now worth 20k.

Same exact thing happened to my 3 S9's.

I ordered 1 11/28 via DHL and then the next day I ordered 2 more. 1 via UPS 1 via DHL. All 3 were Jan 21-30.

I received both DHL's together on 12/28! And the UPS Jan 21-30 was moved to Jan 11-20.

I am glad I pulled the trigger when I did!

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January 11, 2018, 03:51:28 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

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Hey, do you mean that by choosing the more expensive option with UPS - you got lower fees and better service? It was actually a small hell on Earth dealing with DHL guys here. Also, don't you guys have 20% customs duties for everything shipped from outside the US?

 Compared to 20% hell yea. $47.91 is all I pay on top of original shipping cost with UPS (per miner). $0 for psu's.

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January 11, 2018, 04:08:39 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

 Scrap'

Hey, do you mean that by choosing the more expensive option with UPS - you got lower fees and better service? It was actually a small hell on Earth dealing with DHL guys here. Also, don't you guys have 20% customs duties for everything shipped from outside the US?

 Compared to 20% hell yea. $47.91 is all I pay on top of original shipping cost with UPS (per miner). $0 for psu's.

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Well... I guess this is one of the perks to live in the US. Greeting from Europe, where we pay 20% VAT/Customs duties for everything that comes from the US or Asia Smiley

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January 11, 2018, 04:09:45 PM
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Paid the same as Scrappy Do on my last 3 that came in this week.  Just a little over 3%.

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January 11, 2018, 06:19:06 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

 Scrap'

Hey, do you mean that by choosing the more expensive option with UPS - you got lower fees and better service? It was actually a small hell on Earth dealing with DHL guys here. Also, don't you guys have 20% customs duties for everything shipped from outside the US?

No, that is not accurate. UPS/FedEx/DHL do not set the customs rate. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection is responsible for the rates and the carrier simply forwards the bill to you. For years, Bitmain was able to successfully ship to the US with tariff (HS) code 8471.41.0150 (automatic data processing machines). Unfortunately, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection department has decided that cryptocurrency mining hardware does not meet the description and should actually be classified as tariff (HS) code 8543.70.9960 with a 2.6% tariff rate. We spent a lot of effort attempting to convince them that these were automatic data processing machines and therefor should be subject to a 0% tariff, but we were unsuccessful. The determining factor is that these devices cannot be used for general processing and any device that is designed to "only do 1 thing" does not meet the definition of automatic data processing machine. This was very frustrating for us and cost us $40k in retroactive fees for 2017.

tl;dr - going forward, you should expect a 2.6% tariff on any incoming AntMiner. You may get lucky if Customs doesn't correct what Bitmain puts on the form, but I wouldn't count on it. Also, this does not include the carrier charge for dealing with customs. This fee is normally less than $50 and is per order, not per package.

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January 11, 2018, 08:49:56 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

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I used UPS last time, paid online around $49. This time I decided to chose DHL, looks like I'm in for an unpleasant surprise on March Sad
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January 11, 2018, 09:08:03 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
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January 11, 2018, 09:08:53 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
Are you sure? What are they symptoms?
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January 11, 2018, 09:12:14 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
Are you sure? What are they symptoms?

Both will not power on, I am using Bitmains AP3++ PSU'S, The PSU'S power on fans spinning etc but the S9 does nothing.

If I just connect to control board and not hash boards it still doesnt come on and same just connecting to hash boards and not control board.

I am in the UK using 220-240v so 1 PSU is fine..
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January 11, 2018, 09:13:22 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
Are you sure? What are they symptoms?

Both will not power on, I am using Bitmains AP3++ PSU'S, The PSU'S power on fans spinning etc but the S9 does nothing.

If I just connect to control board and not hash boards is still doesnt come on and same just connecting to hash boards and not control board.

I am in the UK using 220-240v so 1 PSU is fine..
No leds, entirely dark control board?
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January 11, 2018, 10:43:14 PM
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For all you guys with doa hash boards there is a fix. It is the bitmain PSU's that are the problem. Swap out the bitmain PSU with another PSU that is not a bitmain one and your miner should fire up and run like it should.
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January 11, 2018, 10:54:22 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
Are you sure? What are they symptoms?

Both will not power on, I am using Bitmains AP3++ PSU'S, The PSU'S power on fans spinning etc but the S9 does nothing.

If I just connect to control board and not hash boards it still doesnt come on and same just connecting to hash boards and not control board.

I am in the UK using 220-240v so 1 PSU is fine..

 Hold your horses cowboy, or sell them to me.. LOL The Cap in a apw3 is VERY large. Before you plug it in wait 10 seconds of dead time.. Then, New machines take around 20 to 30 mins to finally figure it out and get cranking. It didn't used to be this way, but I am seeing it more and more in the new units... Once you change network settings, and change pools, power that bitch off for at least 10 secs past the PSU fan running. Refire, and gold.

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January 11, 2018, 10:54:51 PM
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You should be lucky guys to get your mid Jan miners now, I assume you are in the US?
Mine we from december 20 onwards batch and I just got the notice that they are released from Customs and ready to be taken home (location = Europe)

was taxed  about 39 usd on 1 unit

Wow, really? I got 20% customs duties, so this means 300 USD for each Antminer S9 and 30 USD for each PSU.
Plus around 50 USD taxes from DHL to deliver them

 Thats why sadly, brown is the best option at this time. It cost more in initial shipping, but import taxes are WAY lower.

 I so miss the days of fedex dropping the package for $40 shipping and no customs fees or bullshit. Big brother on em guys. They watching this shit like a hawk!

 If you didn't notice, to even receive a $1500 or higher customs package through UPS, you will/may be asked to give personal data to the customs official before they release the package. Also, once you do, they won't stop future packages again, but this means they now can track every one from that point on. Totally sucks. They know whos buying and keeping list, trust me.

 Scrap'

Hey, do you mean that by choosing the more expensive option with UPS - you got lower fees and better service? It was actually a small hell on Earth dealing with DHL guys here. Also, don't you guys have 20% customs duties for everything shipped from outside the US?

No, that is not accurate. UPS/FedEx/DHL do not set the customs rate. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection is responsible for the rates and the carrier simply forwards the bill to you. For years, Bitmain was able to successfully ship to the US with tariff (HS) code 8471.41.0150 (automatic data processing machines). Unfortunately, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection department has decided that cryptocurrency mining hardware does not meet the description and should actually be classified as tariff (HS) code 8543.70.9960 with a 2.6% tariff rate. We spent a lot of effort attempting to convince them that these were automatic data processing machines and therefor should be subject to a 0% tariff, but we were unsuccessful. The determining factor is that these devices cannot be used for general processing and any device that is designed to "only do 1 thing" does not meet the definition of automatic data processing machine. This was very frustrating for us and cost us $40k in retroactive fees for 2017.

tl;dr - going forward, you should expect a 2.6% tariff on any incoming AntMiner. You may get lucky if Customs doesn't correct what Bitmain puts on the form, but I wouldn't count on it. Also, this does not include the carrier charge for dealing with customs. This fee is normally less than $50 and is per order, not per package.

It actually was... the percentage of charge was dead on. Quote all the fluff ya want, I see it, and pay it. Please don't argue real time. Others are saying the same exact thing. Just because some shipping companys have not figured it out does not mean I am wrong.

 Anyone else in US seen 47.91 from UPS since late last year? Smiley

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January 11, 2018, 11:08:18 PM
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I had 2 units arrive today, I have been waiting for them for 3 months, BOTH FUCKING DOA! WOULD YOU BELIEVE IT!!   Angry

I message Shitmain and I get an automatic response saying they're out of office from 15th-25th Jan, Wow just fucking great.
Are you sure? What are they symptoms?

Both will not power on, I am using Bitmains AP3++ PSU'S, The PSU'S power on fans spinning etc but the S9 does nothing.

If I just connect to control board and not hash boards it still doesnt come on and same just connecting to hash boards and not control board.

I am in the UK using 220-240v so 1 PSU is fine..

 One more thing, 1 APW3 PSU cannot power more than 1 S9. Im in US and run pure 240 as well, but you would still need 2 PSUs to fire 2 S9's.

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January 11, 2018, 11:14:44 PM
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For all you guys with doa hash boards there is a fix. It is the bitmain PSU's that are the problem. Swap out the bitmain PSU with another PSU that is not a bitmain one and your miner should fire up and run like it should.

 I strongly disagree with this statement as I own over 25 Bitmain PSU's and they are spot on. Whether 240v or 120v, they simply work. Granted I love the Parallel Mining Delta for dual D3's and triple L3's. The APW is still one of the best, easiest, and most affordable for the T9/S9 series.

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