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June 05, 2018, 10:22:03 PM
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It has been a long time since I manually setup any miner.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)

I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.

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June 05, 2018, 10:33:37 PM
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The s9 default is using DHCP so you will need to look at the router for the address. Once in you can then set it to a static address. Routers generally use either the first address (.1) or the last one .254, at home mine is .254 while at work it is .1

Ideally both the router and laptop should be on the same subnet.

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June 06, 2018, 12:52:24 AM
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It has been a long time since I manually setup any miner.
Does S9 allow direct access through ethernet cable and 192.168.1.99 IP address like S1 and S3 did?
If yes, then it does not work for me.
Accidentally, which setting do you put for laptop IP and router IP in case if it should work still?
I put
192.168.1.1 for laptop and
192.168.0.1 for router (or should it be 192.168.1.0 for router?)

I have a particular reason to try this, I am well aware that if you connect S9 to the internet, it would situate itself just fine on DHCP.

Thanks.


If you connect the miner directly to your laptop, set your laptop to an IP in the range of 169.254.0.0 to 169.254.255.255, subnet mask 255.255.0.0. Without DHCP server both the miner and the laptop will auto acquire an IP in that range.
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June 06, 2018, 05:58:52 AM
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Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.

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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.

1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool




1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.
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Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.

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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.

1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool




1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.


All my messages from the previous several days have been deleted...

Same here. Hmmm unfortunate. It had good info and it was about mining. I read an analyst report and it suggested 30-40% prepaid wafers by bitmain had been deployed. This is on in may.

So, I guess they still have to dump machines due to too much prepaid wafers, probably ordered in error during the times when the S9s sold out in 2 mins when released lol. Hopefully it gets cleared soon and no more wafer over-orders occur. The Z9 now becomes a 2 for 1 lol. They wanna clear the wafers that bad.

Maybe now 60-70% of wafers have been cleared?

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June 06, 2018, 08:16:14 AM
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Not sure why the "moderator" is deleting messages though it is related to the subject. It is a forum after all and people provide opinion and help each other. There are like 8 messages missing when I have checked today.

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Quote from: Litc0in on 05 June 2018, 20:11:44
Sorry I know this has been discussed many times on here but I can't find it on this thread, but just have 3 questions.

1. At what temperatures should my S9's be constantly steady at? Does this look right at all?
2. Is it possible these asics can last more than a 2 year lifespan with great maintenance?
3. Should I change my Estimated Payout period from 0.01 to 0.1 due to pool fees at pool




1- I try to keep mine below 80. Averaging 75. But no matter how low I go with the cooling (mine are in 20 deg), the fans are not going below 3700is rpm.
2- 50/50 but it is possible. I have a T9 running since the 1st release, running non stop with the same PSU. Keep away from dust and humidity. Open the miner every now and then and clean the dust.
3- it is up to you. but the higher the payment are, the lower you pay fees.


In one of my installation, board temperatures are in the range of 82-89 C. Ambient temperature is about 36-40 C, real hot due to summer at the moment. They run fine, occasionally hitting the upper limit and idle.
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June 06, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
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S9 will not profit soon ?

S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.

See example below :-

(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11

* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.
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June 06, 2018, 02:55:28 PM
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S9 will not profit soon ?

S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.

See example below :-

(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11

* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.


That doesnt look good. If the 13cents guys gets taken out, it will be the 12 and 11 cents guys next Sad

Hopefully bitmain clears their backlog of wafer orders soon and does not over-order again. I believe that is the issue here. The new entrant GMO with their new 24TH for 1950watt miner at 1999 USD just cant compete at that price and I doubt they can price it much lower to compete. Bitcoin price increase would be great too.

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June 06, 2018, 03:59:18 PM
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Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...


You know hes actually correct. Heat gun and tweezers is the official bitmain way. That is what they teach you in the training courses, which I have been through.

They say it is faster and much more cost effective than using a machine. They actually showed me thier chip placing machine(cant for the life of me remember its actual name) onsite, covered and put away because they just dont use it.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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June 06, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
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S9 will not profit soon ?

S9 would not profit if your daily operating cost is above USD0.13/kWh, just enough to cover operating cost / break-even to cover electricity/cooling etc.

See example below :-

(TH/s) / Opex (USD/kWH) / Profit (USD/D)
13.5 / 0.10 / 1.43
13.5 / 0.11 / 1.04
13.5 / 0.12 / 0.66
13.5 / 0.13 / 0.27
13.5 / 0.14 / -0.11

* Assumptions : Current yield of USD0.39/(TH/s), power of 1580 Watt/S9.


S9s only pull arond 1400w, so you might want to revise your numbers.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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June 06, 2018, 04:02:52 PM
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^^ and depending on the model and temps, s9 power draw can be as low as 1250W (s9 batch-1 uc to 550MHz producing 12.75THs)

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June 06, 2018, 04:10:24 PM
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Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...


You know hes actually correct. Heat gun and tweezers is the official bitmain way. That is what they teach you in the training courses, which I have been through.

They say it is faster and much more cost effective than using a machine. They actually showed me thier chip placing machine(cant for the life of me remember its actual name) onsite, covered and put away because they just dont use it.

Heat gun will just damage the chips if not done properly. A rework station does not cost all that much and you can also place it 100% in the correct spot everytime and not have to worry about get solder on other pins and damaging the chip from over heating.

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June 06, 2018, 05:49:06 PM
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June 06, 2018, 07:14:14 PM
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Can some one please help me?

Is this for Real: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Antminer-S9-14-TH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-With-PSU-APW3-SHIPS-SAME-DAY/202334306466?hash=item2f1c1080a2:g:JJQAAOSw7kVbF-so#payCntId

Say's free shipping worldwide and "Antminer S9 14 TH/s Bitcoin Miner With PSU APW3++ SHIPS SAME DAY"

Cost US $450.00

But here's fine print "Payment: PAYMENT IS ONLY ACCEPT VIA BITCOIN (If paypal is sent, miner wont be posted.)
To purchase this miner please buy listing this will reserve miner.
Payment of bitcoin is then required. (within 10 minutes of pressing buy now)
Amount:0.06btc"

Sell has 100% feedback and 469 sells
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June 06, 2018, 07:16:07 PM
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Hi
Can some one please help me?

Is this for Real: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Antminer-S9-14-TH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-With-PSU-APW3-SHIPS-SAME-DAY/202334306466?hash=item2f1c1080a2:g:JJQAAOSw7kVbF-so#payCntId

Say's free shipping worldwide and "Antminer S9 14 TH/s Bitcoin Miner With PSU APW3++ SHIPS SAME DAY"

Cost US $450.00

But here's fine print "Payment: PAYMENT IS ONLY ACCEPT VIA BITCOIN (If paypal is sent, miner wont be posted.)
To purchase this miner please buy listing this will reserve miner.
Payment of bitcoin is then required. (within 10 minutes of pressing buy now)
Amount:0.06btc"

Sell has 100% feedback and 469 sells

You have no protection with sending BTC, also it's against E-Bay's policy.  Also the seller can say you never paid, so he never shipped.  Because you have no paypal record.  SCAM

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June 06, 2018, 07:23:19 PM
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Need little advise, thanks.

Below pica showing a S9 frying the cables of the power supply.

- There are no issue with the boards, I opened and checked.
- the hashing boards sockets are brown because of the PSU plugs that are overheating
- Both miner and CPU are working fine, however the PSU cables at the hash boards are super hot and getting brown, some are black.
- Replaced the PSU with a new one, cables are getting hot. It is fine for now but with time it will go brown.

This miner is running since 2 years non stop.

Any advise?
thanks.


https://imgur.com/a/AGgnzhS
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June 06, 2018, 08:03:02 PM
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Hi
Can some one please help me?

Is this for Real: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Antminer-S9-14-TH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-With-PSU-APW3-SHIPS-SAME-DAY/202334306466?hash=item2f1c1080a2:g:JJQAAOSw7kVbF-so#payCntId

Say's free shipping worldwide and "Antminer S9 14 TH/s Bitcoin Miner With PSU APW3++ SHIPS SAME DAY"

Cost US $450.00

But here's fine print "Payment: PAYMENT IS ONLY ACCEPT VIA BITCOIN (If paypal is sent, miner wont be posted.)
To purchase this miner please buy listing this will reserve miner.
Payment of bitcoin is then required. (within 10 minutes of pressing buy now)
Amount:0.06btc"

Sell has 100% feedback and 469 sells

You have no protection with sending BTC, also it's against E-Bay's policy.  Also the seller can say you never paid, so he never shipped.  Because you have no paypal record.  SCAM

I agree unless they are selling $450 Us Paypal and $450 of BTC (~$900 US), Maybe a workaround..
I'll ask seller.
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June 06, 2018, 08:05:08 PM
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Tweezers doesn't heat solder and resolder the balls back on...


You know hes actually correct. Heat gun and tweezers is the official bitmain way. That is what they teach you in the training courses, which I have been through.

They say it is faster and much more cost effective than using a machine. They actually showed me thier chip placing machine(cant for the life of me remember its actual name) onsite, covered and put away because they just dont use it.

Heat gun will just damage the chips if not done properly. A rework station does not cost all that much and you can also place it 100% in the correct spot everytime and not have to worry about get solder on other pins and damaging the chip from over heating.

I agree, but as a business owner I would not buy such machine for the repair shop, unnecessary expense...
However, if I was an engineer at that shop, I would ask my boss about this machine every day
Just different perspectives Wink

It is not an unnecessary expense. They is litteraly one of the main tools for any logic board repair. It is a vaccum that picks up the chip. A camera and a laser so it can properly align it and place it properly. A heating element getting the solder the the proper temp for the proper amount of time. You make it sound like this is something like only intel uses. When your xbox has a red ring this is the machine they use when your gpu is having artifcats this what they use etc etc.

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Hi
Can some one please help me?

Is this for Real: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Antminer-S9-14-TH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-With-PSU-APW3-SHIPS-SAME-DAY/202334306466?hash=item2f1c1080a2:g:JJQAAOSw7kVbF-so#payCntId

Say's free shipping worldwide and "Antminer S9 14 TH/s Bitcoin Miner With PSU APW3++ SHIPS SAME DAY"

Cost US $450.00

But here's fine print "Payment: PAYMENT IS ONLY ACCEPT VIA BITCOIN (If paypal is sent, miner wont be posted.)
To purchase this miner please buy listing this will reserve miner.
Payment of bitcoin is then required. (within 10 minutes of pressing buy now)
Amount:0.06btc"

Sell has 100% feedback and 469 sells

You have no protection with sending BTC, also it's against E-Bay's policy.  Also the seller can say you never paid, so he never shipped.  Because you have no paypal record.  SCAM

I agree unless they are selling $450 Us Paypal and $450 of BTC (~$900 US), Maybe a workaround..
I'll ask seller.

It's fee advoidance, I would rather have the security of paypal when your box with a brick shows up.  Then pay with BTC and have no recourse.

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June 06, 2018, 08:08:13 PM
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Need little advise, thanks.

Below pica showing a S9 frying the cables of the power supply.

- There are no issue with the boards, I opened and checked.
- the hashing boards sockets are brown because of the PSU plugs that are overheating
- Both miner and CPU are working fine, however the PSU cables at the hash boards are super hot and getting brown, some are black.
- Replaced the PSU with a new one, cables are getting hot. It is fine for now but with time it will go brown.

This miner is running since 2 years non stop.

Any advise?
thanks.


https://imgur.com/a/AGgnzhS

As people been sayin "Once you go black you never go back..."
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I would just remove plastic and solder one thing onto another, since it becomes an issue

looking into replacing the PSU cables, so far not lucky with finding good cables online. Also the 6 pin PCIe sockets are easy to replace if found.
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