Radeon released RX 480. (Card is Released)

[monsanto]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

Sooner now after this DAO fiasco.

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[dumpida]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

At the current rate of difficulty increase, ie 40% a months, in 4 months, when the difficulty quadrupled, most miners will be not profitable.

[rockyforever]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

At the current rate of difficulty increase, ie 40% a months, in 4 months, when the difficulty quadrupled, most miners will be not profitable.

People have been saying that about Bitcoin every year, yet people still mine and still remain profitable. (Input response: well those are Chinese miners who have $.03 electricity!) The same thing keeps being repeated but look, the S9 just was released, people are buying and still making profit (yes I know the halving ...blah blah blah... if the price continues to go up, mining still remains profitable. Just like any investment, their is risk. Either you risk it or you don't, but let's stop spouting numbers and percentages as if its gospel. Mine or don't mine its your choice. For those that keep asking about profit ...how much longer... if my electricity rate is xyz... stop answering them please. Being older and not having been blessed with the internet at my finger tips since birth, I seem to find all my answers by searching the forum or using google. Its an amazing invention! Stop enabling them). As for ethereum mining, newer, more efficient gpus are constantly being released (aka 480x and 470x.. yes I know we don't know benchmarks yet but will eventually) and the price of ethereum might increase, thus, mining remains profitable even as difficulty increases.

Some individuals continued to mine during "uneconomic" (aka unprofitable) times during bitcoin, especially last year when it was below $200. Now look at the price, stable at $750. Just because mining might become unprofitable, doesn't mean shit, as seen with bitcoin on multiple occasions.   

[Marvell1]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

At the current rate of difficulty increase, ie 40% a months, in 4 months, when the difficulty quadrupled, most miners will be not profitable.

People have been saying that about Bitcoin every year, yet people still mine and still remain profitable. (Input response: well those are Chinese miners who have $.03 electricity!) The same thing keeps being repeated but look, the S9 just was released, people are buying and still making profit (yes I know the halving ...blah blah blah... if the price continues to go up, mining still remains profitable. Just like any investment, their is risk. Either you risk it or you don't, but let's stop spouting numbers and percentages as if its gospel. Mine or don't mine its your choice. For those that keep asking about profit ...how much longer... if my electricity rate is xyz... stop answering them please. Being older and not having been blessed with the internet at my finger tips since birth, I seem to find all my answers by searching the forum or using google. Its an amazing invention! Stop enabling them). As for ethereum mining, newer, more efficient gpus are constantly being released (aka 480x and 470x.. yes I know we don't know benchmarks yet but will eventually) and the price of ethereum might increase, thus, mining remains profitable even as difficulty increases.

Some individuals continued to mine during "uneconomic" (aka unprofitable) times during bitcoin, especially last year when it was below $200. Now look at the price, stable at $750. Just because mining might become unprofitable, doesn't mean shit, as seen with bitcoin on multiple occasions.   

hear hear sticky this somone

[CryR]

My question is ,

8gb or 4gb ?

Thanks .

For mine 4GB is more than sufficient actually. (nobody knows the future  )
And the initial price is 200$ for 4GB       8GB unknown(?)

[reb0rn21]

Beware of the etehreum and mining, if they fork because od DAO, the trust will be gone, if they let 60M $ be dumped, price is gone, in any way investors and miners will lose

[antlerandadder]

My question is ,

8gb or 4gb ?

Thanks .

For mine 4GB is more than sufficient actually. (nobody knows the future  )
And the initial price is 200$ for 4GB       8GB unknown(?)

I see a preorder for the Gigabyte RX480 8gb model for $254.76

[CryR]

8gb for $254.76...  Not Bad.

[Amph]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

At the current rate of difficulty increase, ie 40% a months, in 4 months, when the difficulty quadrupled, most miners will be not profitable.

People have been saying that about Bitcoin every year, yet people still mine and still remain profitable. (Input response: well those are Chinese miners who have $.03 electricity!) The same thing keeps being repeated but look, the S9 just was released, people are buying and still making profit (yes I know the halving ...blah blah blah... if the price continues to go up, mining still remains profitable. Just like any investment, their is risk. Either you risk it or you don't, but let's stop spouting numbers and percentages as if its gospel. Mine or don't mine its your choice. For those that keep asking about profit ...how much longer... if my electricity rate is xyz... stop answering them please. Being older and not having been blessed with the internet at my finger tips since birth, I seem to find all my answers by searching the forum or using google. Its an amazing invention! Stop enabling them). As for ethereum mining, newer, more efficient gpus are constantly being released (aka 480x and 470x.. yes I know we don't know benchmarks yet but will eventually) and the price of ethereum might increase, thus, mining remains profitable even as difficulty increases.

Some individuals continued to mine during "uneconomic" (aka unprofitable) times during bitcoin, especially last year when it was below $200. Now look at the price, stable at $750. Just because mining might become unprofitable, doesn't mean shit, as seen with bitcoin on multiple occasions.   

you are comparing orange and apple really, bitcoin is on its own league, do not compare it iwth any altcoin, and anyway there were many miners that shut down their farm because there was not profit to be made

you clearly didn't look at the big picture, so no etheruem will not be profitable forever just accept it

[giagge]

Found in a forum :

"This particular $300 Rx 480 OC Edition will have toggle with two bios options - Standard bios of 1266mhz and Extreme bios of 1500mhz - All 6+8 pin models will be able to reach the 1500mhz mark - the only difference is some editions will have a overclock bios setting that will be set at the 1500mhz mark - while other cards will have to be done manually although today its easy to do manually by just a few clicks of a button with software - While running at 1570mhz - the OC edition runs at 72c with 99% gpu load with 65% fan - one impressive feat to say the least - This bodes well for AMD's new Polaris cards as it shows these cards are capable of even more than this impressive 1570mhz mark - In fact, in a closed box setup, we were able to "easily" obtain 1600mhz while running Battlefield 4 for over an hour with zero crashes or artifacts all while keeping below the 75c mark while using 99% gpu load - Even more impressive is the fact that the voltage usage leaves room for even a bit further tweaking to further our overclock past 1600mhz - One has to wonder what AMD has with the entire lineup of Vega right now - we can only imagine pure bliss in terms of performance at the top enthusiast level - AMD really does have something special on their hands. The Rx 480 while running 1500mhz is on par with the stock 1070 in-game, it even beats it on some games at this clock, anything more and the 480 begins to put some distance between the two cards. Keep in mind this is Dx12 games, this is where GCN 4 truly shows off."

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[clickerz]

People have been saying that about Bitcoin every year, yet people still mine and still remain profitable. (Input response: well those are Chinese miners who have $.03 electricity!) The same thing keeps being repeated but look, the S9 just was released, people are buying and still making profit (yes I know the halving ...blah blah blah... if the price continues to go up, mining still remains profitable. Just like any investment, their is risk. Either you risk it or you don't, but let's stop spouting numbers and percentages as if its gospel. Mine or don't mine its your choice. For those that keep asking about profit ...how much longer... if my electricity rate is xyz... stop answering them please. Being older and not having been blessed with the internet at my finger tips since birth, I seem to find all my answers by searching the forum or using google. Its an amazing invention! Stop enabling them). As for ethereum mining, newer, more efficient gpus are constantly being released (aka 480x and 470x.. yes I know we don't know benchmarks yet but will eventually) and the price of ethereum might increase, thus, mining remains profitable even as difficulty increases.

Some individuals continued to mine during "uneconomic" (aka unprofitable) times during bitcoin, especially last year when it was below $200. Now look at the price, stable at $750. Just because mining might become unprofitable, doesn't mean shit, as seen with bitcoin on multiple occasions.   

You may have some point here, and after this halving period is also a must watch event.This timely release of Radeon released RX 480 and that Antminer S9 is a promising one as the difficulty and halving is concerned.They may play an important role after this period. Hoping also that btc price will be stable for the meantime...

[Bemerand]

We just need to wait for 2 weeks to see the mining performance. If it is better than the 390 by 50%, I will buy.

[rockyforever]

Ethereium is slated to go POS a while before *3* GB cards become unviable for mining - if the timeframe doesn't get pushed back again.

 The real limit is likely to be "when will the diff increase to the point it overcomes the price and mining become uneconomic if your power cost is higher then VERY VERY cheap".

i can assume within this year, etheruem will not be profitable anymore, unless something crazy happen to bitcoin, which may skyrocket to unbelievable level like 2k or more...

At the current rate of difficulty increase, ie 40% a months, in 4 months, when the difficulty quadrupled, most miners will be not profitable.

People have been saying that about Bitcoin every year, yet people still mine and still remain profitable. (Input response: well those are Chinese miners who have $.03 electricity!) The same thing keeps being repeated but look, the S9 just was released, people are buying and still making profit (yes I know the halving ...blah blah blah... if the price continues to go up, mining still remains profitable. Just like any investment, their is risk. Either you risk it or you don't, but let's stop spouting numbers and percentages as if its gospel. Mine or don't mine its your choice. For those that keep asking about profit ...how much longer... if my electricity rate is xyz... stop answering them please. Being older and not having been blessed with the internet at my finger tips since birth, I seem to find all my answers by searching the forum or using google. Its an amazing invention! Stop enabling them). As for ethereum mining, newer, more efficient gpus are constantly being released (aka 480x and 470x.. yes I know we don't know benchmarks yet but will eventually) and the price of ethereum might increase, thus, mining remains profitable even as difficulty increases.

Some individuals continued to mine during "uneconomic" (aka unprofitable) times during bitcoin, especially last year when it was below $200. Now look at the price, stable at $750. Just because mining might become unprofitable, doesn't mean shit, as seen with bitcoin on multiple occasions.   

you are comparing orange and apple really, bitcoin is on its own league, do not compare it iwth any altcoin, and anyway there were many miners that shut down their farm because there was not profit to be made

you clearly didn't look at the big picture, so no etheruem will not be profitable forever just accept it

Rofl.

Please explain your "apple and oranges" comment because you obviously can't comprehend the obvious message in my post, so saying I can't compare crypto currencies, especially an altcoin to "bitcoin" is stupid. Bitcoin is the standard, numero uno, anything after is a comparison, knockoff, improvement, etc. from the original so I don't understand your logic. Without Bitcoin, we don't have a premise of what could happen but it does give hope to what could happen. Yes, we have seen many altcoins fail but some have succeeded. Will the success be the same as bitcoin, we can only hope, but again, its a risk.

Also, your comment holds no grounds for anything besides your opinion (again, the point of my message), without once again proof of anything because in reality, nothing can be proven, yet you say it like "you know," as was the point of my original post. (but than again, don't compare or utilize my "original" post because that would be comparing apples to oranges).

[Amph]

the simple thing that ethereum will go to pos, make your whole post invalid, so yes they are apple and orange

and now etheruem is even tanking, so it's dead prematurely, good luck to you investing in 480 farm now to milk the last value from that scam called etheruem

it's funny, because now it does not matter anymore how well those new gpu will perform on dagger, but it matter more how they will perform on neoscrypt and lyra

[dumpida]

the simple thing that ethereum will go to pos, make your whole post invalid, so yes they are apple and orange

and now etheruem is even tanking, so it's dead prematurely, good luck to you investing in 480 farm now to milk the last value from that scam called etheruem

it's funny, because now it does not matter anymore how well those new gpu will perform on dagger, but it matter more how they will perform on neoscrypt and lyra

The problem is that there is no other neosrypt or lyra coin can absorb so many existing graphics. We have to wait long time to find a replacement.

[adaseb]

What happened in the last day and a half is proof that you are much much better mining today than you are mining in the future.

Half of mining profits disappeared in about 24 hours... if your power isn't cheap then its probably more than half of your profits.

[Amph]

What happened in the last day and a half is proof that you are much much better mining today than you are mining in the future.

Half of mining profits disappeared in about 24 hours... if your power isn't cheap then its probably more than half of your profits.

yeah but tnx to bitcoin skyrocketing to almost $800, it's still profitable

[s1gs3gv]

What happened in the last day and a half is proof that you are much much better mining today than you are mining in the future.

Half of mining profits disappeared in about 24 hours... if your power isn't cheap then its probably more than half of your profits.

That may be true but is only, at most, half of the question, and the easy half too. The other half is whether to hold or sell mining income.

[Juhagic]

What happened in the last day and a half is proof that you are much much better mining today than you are mining in the future.

Half of mining profits disappeared in about 24 hours... if your power isn't cheap then its probably more than half of your profits.

That may be true but is only, at most, half of the question, and the easy half too. The other half is whether to hold or sell mining income.

It is very difficult to decide. We will see if there is a need for hard/soft fork. If the attacker returns most of the coins, there is no need to fork. So the Ethereum price will rise.

[antlerandadder]

XFX Radeon RX480 8gb model preordering for $275.49