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[goldcoinminer]

No problem.  I just did not know about the ICO until a day or two ago.  I would like to invest but currently it would be a bad investment.  No big deal if there is no bonus from this point, I understand people's arguments and will just wait for the next ICO.  There is no shortage of them.  If it is decided to bonus late buyers I will definitely put in 10-20 BTC.

Cheers and good luck guys

ohh yes why not 100 or 200 btc is better!

I do see you are angry, not sure why as I just made a very simple post since the Devs asked people what they thought. 

i am angry about people like you think with money(or BTC )can make anything and you are smart enough to know what i say!

OK, there are 3 things I am 100% sure about:

1 - You are a Bounty Hunter - I looked at your post history and it is pathetic - you want freebies to dump.

2 - Most Bounty Hunters invest very little and are HOPING for a big payday:  Take my advice, you will end up broke if you continue on that path.  Make some solid investments and stick with them.  Some will pan out and others will not but in the end you will have more than you started with.

3 - You will not take the above advice and will continue to panhandle and beg for freebies and will end up with less than you already have, and will look like an asshole doing it.

I am wondering if you can educate me on 'Make some solid investments and stick with them.' How do you define solid investments? Cause as what you have said, there is endless new investments coming out every now and then. So how do you filter them and choose the better one to invest in?

LOL, regardless of the investment here, anyone should mine their own business because even if the others are just bounty hunters they are making an effort to help the marketing side of the project.

[patronis]

No problem.  I just did not know about the ICO until a day or two ago.  I would like to invest but currently it would be a bad investment.  No big deal if there is no bonus from this point, I understand people's arguments and will just wait for the next ICO.  There is no shortage of them.  If it is decided to bonus late buyers I will definitely put in 10-20 BTC.

Cheers and good luck guys

ohh yes why not 100 or 200 btc is better!

I do see you are angry, not sure why as I just made a very simple post since the Devs asked people what they thought. 

i am angry about people like you think with money(or BTC )can make anything and you are smart enough to know what i say!

OK, there are 3 things I am 100% sure about:

1 - You are a Bounty Hunter - I looked at your post history and it is pathetic - you want freebies to dump.

2 - Most Bounty Hunters invest very little and are HOPING for a big payday:  Take my advice, you will end up broke if you continue on that path.  Make some solid investments and stick with them.  Some will pan out and others will not but in the end you will have more than you started with.

3 - You will not take the above advice and will continue to panhandle and beg for freebies and will end up with less than you already have, and will look like an asshole doing it.

I am wondering if you can educate me on 'Make some solid investments and stick with them.' How do you define solid investments? Cause as what you have said, there is endless new investments coming out every now and then. So how do you filter them and choose the better one to invest in?

You really have to feel a coin out to determine if it seems like a solid investment one big thing for me is like is the dev team willing to address questions and criticism. I've seen numerous times in other threads that were self-moderated you would say something negative to the dev and they would just delete your comment and try to silence you.

[patronis]

Trolls are found in every coins thread not just here. Trolls should just be ignored since they never contribute anything worth while to the discussion.

[shogdite]

Good morning. As we are nearing the end of the sale, we are now making preparations for the weeks ahead to come.

Beta testers.
Currently, we are looking to put together a beta tester team that will actively help test the platform to ensure a qualitative experience. Beta testers should be able to give us at least 2 hours a day for a total of 10 hours to help test with the team. We will be setting up a slack in the next few days and inviting those who are accepted as beta testers to the #betatest channel. If you are interested in helping us with this testing, please email me at shogdite@letitri.de

Bonuses claimed.
Some information on the bonuses claimed for those who may be wondering.
We have raised about 291.5 BTC with bonuses factored in, it represents about 316 BTC. Of the ~24.5 BTC that exists as bonuses, 9 BTC (~37%) of bonuses belongs to the group of people who have deposited 5 BTC or more. We expect to be paying out no more than 100k LIR for other bonuses such as twitter and signatures.
Just wanted to give everyone a clear picture of how many bonus BTC are in play. Deposit bonus has ended so these numbers will not change moving forward.

Last day bonus.
We sort of found it funny how speculative everyone was about the end reward being a bonus % for deposits. That's not quite what we had in mind. More so, we were thinking about offering everyone a chance to try out a simple dice game where you "spin" to win. If you're lucky, you will be able to win 10% of your investment back (capped at 0.2 BTC). Of course, this will also come with an achievement since this is a one time only event . Investors who invested within the first 240 hours, will also be entitled to participate in the same game however with a cap of 0.3 BTC.

Thank you all for believing in us. We've raised almost 300 BTC due to your efforts. We know that through diligence and rigorous testing we can create the best platform and product that there is for dice and gambling and we look forward to having all of you take this trip with us. Our Twitter is actively gaining followers and starting to build up well, so thank you to those who have been participating in our Twitter campaign and been spreading the word on twitter.

Phoenix will be around later with another post for everyone.

[Brewins]

Good morning. As we are nearing the end of the sale, we are now making preparations for the weeks ahead to come.

Beta testers.
Currently, we are looking to put together a beta tester team that will actively help test the platform to ensure a qualitative experience. Beta testers should be able to give us at least 2 hours a day for a total of 10 hours to help test with the team. We will be setting up a slack in the next few days and inviting those who are accepted as beta testers to the #betatest channel. If you are interested in helping us with this testing, please email me at shogdite@letitri.de

Bonuses claimed.
Some information on the bonuses claimed for those who may be wondering.
We have raised about 291.5 BTC with bonuses factored in, it represents about 316 BTC. Of the ~24.5 BTC that exists as bonuses, 9 BTC (~37%) of bonuses belongs to the group of people who have deposited 5 BTC or more. We expect to be paying out no more than 100k LIR for other bonuses such as twitter and signatures.
Just wanted to give everyone a clear picture of how many bonus BTC are in play. Deposit bonus has ended so these numbers will not change moving forward.

Last day bonus.
We sort of found it funny how speculative everyone was about the end reward being a bonus % for deposits. That's not quite what we had in mind. More so, we were thinking about offering everyone a chance to try out a simple dice game where you "spin" to win. If you're lucky, you will be able to win 10% of your investment back (capped at 0.2 BTC). Of course, this will also come with an achievement since this is a one time only event . Investors who invested within the first 240 hours, will also be entitled to participate in the same game however with a cap of 0.3 BTC.

Thank you all for believing in us. We've raised almost 300 BTC due to your efforts. We know that through diligence and rigorous testing we can create the best platform and product that there is for dice and gambling and we look forward to having all of you take this trip with us. Our Twitter is actively gaining followers and starting to build up well, so thank you to those who have been participating in our Twitter campaign and been spreading the word on twitter.

Phoenix will be around later with another post for everyone.

I can appreciate and respect your response, unfortunately it is a losing proposition to invest at this time and I will not be investing (for the reasons outlined on the previous page). Good luck with the casino.

[Brewins]

Away from the pc for 2 days and the thread goes wild. 1 extortion attempt the bonus debacle and a few dev posts.

Please note, unlike a lot of other sales those who are expecting to short the market and pick up LIR from weak hands there is a cap on how much you can deposit for dividends. For example, if at the end of the sale I have bought 5000 LIR. I could deposit 1000 LIR for dividends, and sell 4000 LIR. A month later, I buy 6000 LIR, but I am only able to deposit 4000 LIR more for diviends since my cap is 5000 LIR (the amount of LIR purchased on my account). This is intended to combat a few things such as account selling, account sharing and whales from manipulating the market causing there to be an unfair distribution of tokens. We must absolutely ensure that distribution is done correctly.

This is great. It means you guys are looking out for the original investors above all else. Not many dev teams take a stance like this against whales screwing up the markets.

I want to weigh in on the bonus:  I invest in a lot of the big ICO's and I am a bag holder and not a guy that dumps.  I expect teams to do what they promote (although they seem to all over promise and under deliver).
I invested 40 BTC in Waves, 10 BTC in Rise and about 20 BTC in LISK.

I would like to invest in this as well but am apprehensive because of the big bonuses given out which typically means more dumping.  If you do decide to offer bonuses again please let me know and I will make a sizable investment but as it stands I will probably not since a 20 and 30% bonus to early investors means I am essentially giving away 20-30% of my BTC as many will dump the bonus for a return of investment.

If you choose not to I understand but thanks for the consideration.

As a side note, any bonus offered now should come from the DEV Fund as to not screw the early investors

Brewins. I think you should invest even without the bonus. If you look at the numbers the dev just posted you'll notice that a very small portion of the marketcap is bonus BTC and with a large portion of that being held by guys like you and I its unlikely someone who invests 5 or 8 or 10 BTCis going to look to dump the .5 or 1 BTC in bonus. That risk reward ratio is just way off.  But of course you are free to do as you wish but if you seriously consider the numbers the bonus BTC is nothing now <10% but imagine if the last couple days bring in larger amounts of BTC. That number will shrink even more.

I agree with what you have stated above and even considered it prior to making my post.  I will need to think about this a little more before committing to it.  The plan looks solid and the team seems to have their heads on straight, my only worry is the lack of the Teams transparency with their identities.  I assume it is because of some of them being in the USA and the laws about gambling but have not seen any mention of it anywhere (but I could have very well missed it. Most ICO's that have large fund raising amounts also have a face on them.

Having said all of that, I am still watching closely and may still invest.

[patronis]

Away from the pc for 2 days and the thread goes wild. 1 extortion attempt the bonus debacle and a few dev posts.

Please note, unlike a lot of other sales those who are expecting to short the market and pick up LIR from weak hands there is a cap on how much you can deposit for dividends. For example, if at the end of the sale I have bought 5000 LIR. I could deposit 1000 LIR for dividends, and sell 4000 LIR. A month later, I buy 6000 LIR, but I am only able to deposit 4000 LIR more for diviends since my cap is 5000 LIR (the amount of LIR purchased on my account). This is intended to combat a few things such as account selling, account sharing and whales from manipulating the market causing there to be an unfair distribution of tokens. We must absolutely ensure that distribution is done correctly.

This is great. It means you guys are looking out for the original investors above all else. Not many dev teams take a stance like this against whales screwing up the markets.

I want to weigh in on the bonus:  I invest in a lot of the big ICO's and I am a bag holder and not a guy that dumps.  I expect teams to do what they promote (although they seem to all over promise and under deliver).
I invested 40 BTC in Waves, 10 BTC in Rise and about 20 BTC in LISK.

I would like to invest in this as well but am apprehensive because of the big bonuses given out which typically means more dumping.  If you do decide to offer bonuses again please let me know and I will make a sizable investment but as it stands I will probably not since a 20 and 30% bonus to early investors means I am essentially giving away 20-30% of my BTC as many will dump the bonus for a return of investment.

If you choose not to I understand but thanks for the consideration.

As a side note, any bonus offered now should come from the DEV Fund as to not screw the early investors

Brewins. I think you should invest even without the bonus. If you look at the numbers the dev just posted you'll notice that a very small portion of the marketcap is bonus BTC and with a large portion of that being held by guys like you and I its unlikely someone who invests 5 or 8 or 10 BTCis going to look to dump the .5 or 1 BTC in bonus. That risk reward ratio is just way off.  But of course you are free to do as you wish but if you seriously consider the numbers the bonus BTC is nothing now <10% but imagine if the last couple days bring in larger amounts of BTC. That number will shrink even more.

I agree with what you have stated above and even considered it prior to making my post.  I will need to think about this a little more before committing to it.  The plan looks solid and the team seems to have their heads on straight, my only worry is the lack of the Teams transparency with their identities.  I assume it is because of some of them being in the USA and the laws about gambling but have not seen any mention of it anywhere (but I could have very well missed it. Most ICO's that have large fund raising amounts also have a face on them.

Having said all of that, I am still watching closely and may still invest.

Gonna guess it's something to do with gambling regulations. Most dice sites aren't that open with who's behind them from what I'm aware.

[etparle]

So is it for sure that there's going to be an end bonus or shogdite were you just telling us what it would be if there is one? 

I might need to scrounge up a little bit more of btc.

[umair01]

Away from the pc for 2 days and the thread goes wild. 1 extortion attempt the bonus debacle and a few dev posts.

Please note, unlike a lot of other sales those who are expecting to short the market and pick up LIR from weak hands there is a cap on how much you can deposit for dividends. For example, if at the end of the sale I have bought 5000 LIR. I could deposit 1000 LIR for dividends, and sell 4000 LIR. A month later, I buy 6000 LIR, but I am only able to deposit 4000 LIR more for diviends since my cap is 5000 LIR (the amount of LIR purchased on my account). This is intended to combat a few things such as account selling, account sharing and whales from manipulating the market causing there to be an unfair distribution of tokens. We must absolutely ensure that distribution is done correctly.

This is great. It means you guys are looking out for the original investors above all else. Not many dev teams take a stance like this against whales screwing up the markets.

I want to weigh in on the bonus:  I invest in a lot of the big ICO's and I am a bag holder and not a guy that dumps.  I expect teams to do what they promote (although they seem to all over promise and under deliver).
I invested 40 BTC in Waves, 10 BTC in Rise and about 20 BTC in LISK.

I would like to invest in this as well but am apprehensive because of the big bonuses given out which typically means more dumping.  If you do decide to offer bonuses again please let me know and I will make a sizable investment but as it stands I will probably not since a 20 and 30% bonus to early investors means I am essentially giving away 20-30% of my BTC as many will dump the bonus for a return of investment.

If you choose not to I understand but thanks for the consideration.

As a side note, any bonus offered now should come from the DEV Fund as to not screw the early investors

Brewins. I think you should invest even without the bonus. If you look at the numbers the dev just posted you'll notice that a very small portion of the marketcap is bonus BTC and with a large portion of that being held by guys like you and I its unlikely someone who invests 5 or 8 or 10 BTCis going to look to dump the .5 or 1 BTC in bonus. That risk reward ratio is just way off.  But of course you are free to do as you wish but if you seriously consider the numbers the bonus BTC is nothing now <10% but imagine if the last couple days bring in larger amounts of BTC. That number will shrink even more.

I agree with what you have stated above and even considered it prior to making my post.  I will need to think about this a little more before committing to it.  The plan looks solid and the team seems to have their heads on straight, my only worry is the lack of the Teams transparency with their identities.  I assume it is because of some of them being in the USA and the laws about gambling but have not seen any mention of it anywhere (but I could have very well missed it. Most ICO's that have large fund raising amounts also have a face on them.

Having said all of that, I am still watching closely and may still invest.

At least one of the devs is know. Phoenix is open on these forums and the lisk forums about who he is. But because you and I seem to LOVE the same movie I'll end my post with a quote.

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Best movie ever. It's the only movie that actually made me cry, that's saying a lot!
+0.1 btc in karma for both of you.

[placebo]

Hopefully not too much extra money in ICO, it is already getting expensive.

[umair01]

Hopefully not too much extra money in ICO, it is already getting expensive.

Not too expensive if you get your orders in on the bottom.

[umair01]

300BTC

Does this mean the lowest price will be 1000 satoshi?

33,000,000 LIR /300 Btc = 0.00001000 each. MININUM.

[etparle]

300BTC

Does this mean the lowest price will be 1000 satoshi?

33,000,000 LIR /300 Btc = 0.00001000 each. MININUM.

No, simple math my friend. For example, say some 200 BTC of people are at 0.00002000 this is only 10000000 LIR. Which means the remaining BTC could be put as low as 0.00000500. It's a tricky game.

[iTradeChips]

i would like to apply for beta tester too. already sent an email

[patronis]

I sent a PM to Phoenix, does that work or do I absolutely need to send an email?

[patronis]

I sent a PM to Phoenix, does that work or do I absolutely need to send an email?

I would send an email if that's what he said to do.

Okay, thanks. I sent them an email as well to Shogdite.

[etparle]

Site down for anyone, I cant get on. another ddos?

Seems fine to me, you sure its not a problem on your end?

[patronis]

Site seems good to me. Looks like we finally broke 300  what do you guys think we'll be at at the end of tomorrow? I'm guessing like 315-325

[Vinnie Stanley]

Site seems good to me. Looks like we finally broke 300  what do you guys think we'll be at at the end of tomorrow? I'm guessing like 315-325

Yup a working site for me as well. Ya know you are right on the mark with your prediction I reckon, my guess is 319.4btc 

[lorylore]

300BTC

Does this mean the lowest price will be 1000 satoshi?

33,000,000 LIR /300 Btc = 0.00001000 each. MININUM.

No, simple math my friend. For example, say some 200 BTC of people are at 0.00002000 this is only 10000000 LIR. Which means the remaining BTC could be put as low as 0.00000500. It's a tricky game.

the average will be around there. but there are values that is gonna be higher and lower than the average price. So use that as a rough estimate on how you want to bid. But i wont be surprise if it can also hit 800 or so.