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[Mathiau]

CPU Benchmark of VRM mining:

Update: 28 August 2017. Data updated and corrected (marked by red).
Thanks:
asket3man
Mathiau for information


P.S.
Q: to Mathiau: What is your OS and Miner? Thanks

Sorry

• Windows 10 Pro 1703 x64
  pooler-cpuminer-2.5.0-win64

[cyberspacemonkey]

CPU Benchmark of VRM mining:

Update: 28 August 2017. Data updated and corrected (marked by red).
Thanks:
asket3man
Mathiau for information

INTEL CPUs

#	CPU model	Cores/threads	MINER	OS	Hashrate	TDP
01	Core i5 7600	4 / 4	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 10 x64Pro	26 H/s	65W
02	Pentium G 4400	2 / 2	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 8.1 x64Pro	10 H/s	54W
03	Xeon E5 2650	8 / 16	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 7 x64Pro	40 H/s	95W
04	Pentium G 3260	2 / 2	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 7 x64Pro	10 H/s	53W
05	Atom N455	1 / 2	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	Win7x64	1.9 H/s	15W
06	2 x Xeon 3200DP (800/2mb) Socket 604	1	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	WinServer2008R2	4.8 H/s	312W
07	2 x Xeon 3400DP (800/1mb) Socket 604	1	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	WinServer2008R2	4.5 H/s	315W
08	Pentium 2020M	2 / 2	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	Win10x64	8.8 H/s	35W
09	Xeon E5 2670	8 / 16	UNKNWN	UNKNWN	44 H/s	115W
10	Core i3-2330M	2 / 4	cpuminer 3.6.6	Windows 8.1 x64Pro	9.7 H/s	35W

AMD CPUs

#	CPU model	Cores/threads	MINER	OS	Hashrate	TDP
01	A10 5800K	4	cpuminer-opt-3.6.6	Win8.1x64	11.8 H/s	73W

P.S.
Q: to Mathiau: What is your OS and Miner? Thanks

It is good to see cpu performance compilation for Verium, BTW why don't you put it as a google spreadsheet, this is much easier to refer because sooner this post will not be seen at the last page of this thread.

Any AMD Ryden performance? I'm curious to know about it  

I get around 45 H/m with mine it's a Ryzen 5 1600x with 12 threads I'm using cpuminer-opt-3.6.5 though.

[trinitrotoluene]

Use a new version of cpuminer-opt, or build veriumMiner with some Ryzen specific optimizations.

[KaptainBlaZzed]

All, please add your miner stats to the new and improved "Hashrate Comparison Spreadsheet." Add you entries to the add entries here tab.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O-hyFS-bqsopttmql6NgYWlWej9rZk_lm5MWivnehXg/edit#gid=0

it gathers additional details that are useful when comparing/planning mining rigs.

[kancel22]

If you are on Ryzen you are wasting your time with Verium. You clearly need to be cpu mining cryptonight (Monero, etc). I had a brand new compile of cpuminer-opt and it was recognizing my ryzen with all of its optimizations as far as I can tell. The problem with ryzen 1700 (8 core) is that it isn't what you think it is...its an interconnected cluster of two quad cores. It's hard to explain. I guess there are some very specific disadvantages to this, either in the cache performance or the memory performance via the bus that connects the two quad cores together.

I can't explain it because I don't even understand it myself.

I don't know how much of this is resolved in the 16 core ryzen threadripper.

I know ryzen has only dual channel memory support which sucks bad for Verium.

Threadripper will have Quad channel, so I don't know how much is fixed with Verium mining and it's memory controller.

Remember folks....Cryptonight is a Cache hard coin. Verium is memory hard.

I Have DDR4-3400 with undervolted DRAM voltage at 1.2V. Cpu heavily undervolted to 0.918V.

Cpu is 3159 MHz with Cache at 3159 with cpu voltage at 0.918V 6950X 10 Core 6950X Broadwell-E I get 4600 Hash/Minute at the most, around 75-76 Hash/second on average

My ryzen 1700 gets under 30 Hash/second which is shit with its dual channel memory support and not being able to really support more than DDR4-2800 very easily at all. Too many people report having to raise their memory timings to get above DDR4-2800 stable on Ryzen, and you don't have to do that on Intel at all...or at least this was the case last I checked...

On cryptonight my ryzen 1700 8 core can do 600 Hash/second when overclocked closer to 4.0 GHz. On Stock voltage I can do maybe 3.6 GHz.

I can do 6950x 10 Core Broadwell-E 800 Hash/second Monero cryptonight (heavily overclocked to 4.3 GHz with overvoltage around 1.310V) or 600 Hash/second on amd ryzen overvolted and overclocked toward 3.8 or just 550 hash/sec on 3.6 Stock voltage.

My point is that on Ryzen Monero (cryptonight) is almost 1:1 with per core performance on Intel. Monero is not memory hard at all, but cache hard. Monero responds to cpu core overclock somewhat, Verium has no response to cpu over overclock, but huge responses with memory overclocking.

Ryzen has very shitty memory performance right now, and Verium badly needs that....

Leave us alone on Verium AMD fanboys. You are taking our coin and you are profiting for shit on your ryzen chips. Move to Monero. They have no gpu advantage over there (slight cpu advantage, actually on perf/watt for cryptonight/monero)

If moving to monero don't forget to download xmr-stak-cpu that's clearly the best monero software miner right now. If you run the config properly it should be setup to only use half of your threads. Monero gets slower when using the fake hyperthreads. Monero needs to only use your actual physical cores. On some intel's Monero will be configured by the xmr-stak-cpu to run all the regular cores + 1 or 2 of the hyperthreads.

XMR-STAK-CPU will configure itself for best performance if you run the setup properly....

it warns you to enable "locked pages". That memory error will go away and your hashrate will go up like 30% when you fix the error in the xmr-stak-cpu miner window...

Google "Enable locked pages (your windows version here)"...Enable it, then switch because Verium mining sucks on all AMD hardware.

YES THIS APPLIES TO PILEDRIVER/BULLDOZER AS WELL. VERIUM SUCKS THERE TOO. MOVE TO CRYPTONIGHT/MONERO there too. Same rules apply.

[kancel22]

Your shit amd hashrates on verium will do the following for you right about now....

If my Excel spreadsheet data is correct (verium calculator I have). You might get $50/month on a 6950X Broadwell-E DDR4 3400 setup.

On a ryzen 1700 you will get 1/3 of the 4600 Hash/minute that I get. You might get 28 hash/second on a 1700.

Unless I totally messed up the ryzen compilation which I don't think I did this is shit for Verium....

$17/month on ryzen 1700? Plz. Switch to monero. They just tripled in value and for ryzen owners you will get some $40+ per month profit out of monero which is about what I make on my $1500 processor on Verium...

I would switch to Monero but find Verium more stable difficulty wise. For AMD owners its a no brainer. Verium's tough memory/memory controller requirements means basically don't bother with AMD yet until they really support Quad channel among other memory performance issues and improvements.

On my Ryzen rig I already switched it to Monero. For my intel rig Verium is a no brainer there. Monero profit would be about same on my intel rig, but monero's difficulty rises too quickly due to GPU competition where Verium doesn't have that problem...although Monero is cool because it has a slight cpu performance/watt advantage where the more expensive gpus use slightly higher wattage per hash on monero than most new cpus do. Pretty interesting stuff. For either Intel or AMD owners basically.

I can get half the watts with 1/3 less hashrate on my ryzen 1700 on monero than the amd 480/580. Great stuff.

Its between this and Verium. I'm not here to promote Monero. I'm here to get AMD users off of Verium to make my intel rigs more money, and to make amd owners more money on monero. It's a total win-win.

I like verium better but only with Intel setups because the difficulty seems more stable than monero due to gpu miners switching to it away from Ethereum after the latest monero pump. I also can heavily underclock and undervolt my cpu with verium as your hashrate will be exactly the same no matter what your clock speed is, no matter what your cpu voltage is set to. This leads to insane efficiency per watt.

Verium badly needs memory bandwidth, not even cache performance....just good memory sticks in quad channel. That and a good memory controller, which favors intel for some reason. That's all I can understand so far.

[xoma11]

2 X Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz - 3407 h/m - 0.06 h/s pooler cpuminer -t 24   
2 X Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2603 v2 @ 1.80GHz  - 27.31 h/s pooler cpuminer -t 8
OS Windows server 2012

[cyberspacemonkey]

If you are on Ryzen you are wasting your time with Verium. You clearly need to be cpu mining cryptonight (Monero, etc). I had a brand new compile of cpuminer-opt and it was recognizing my ryzen with all of its optimizations as far as I can tell. The problem with ryzen 1700 (8 core) is that it isn't what you think it is...its an interconnected cluster of two quad cores. It's hard to explain. I guess there are some very specific disadvantages to this, either in the cache performance or the memory performance via the bus that connects the two quad cores together.

I get your point but people are gonna do whatever they want with their Ryzens imo there are other coins way more attractive to mine with CPU besides Verium even with Intels and it's also a matter of how high is the price going to go in the future.

[uralcryptocoin]

CPU Benchmark of VRM mining:

Weekly Update: 04 September 2017. Data updated.

INTEL CPUs

#	CPU model	Cores/threads	MINER	OS	Hashrate	TDP
01	Core i5 7600	4 / 4	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 10 x64Pro	26 H/s	65W
02	Pentium G 4400	2 / 2	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 8.1 x64Pro	10 H/s	54W
03	Xeon E5 2650	8 / 16	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 7 x64Pro	40 H/s	95W
04	Pentium G 3260	2 / 2	cpuminer-opt-3.6.5	Windows 7 x64Pro	10 H/s	53W
05	Atom N455	1 / 2	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	Win7x64	1.9 H/s	15W
06	2 x Xeon 3200DP (800/2mb) Socket 604	1	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	WinServer2008R2	4.8 H/s	312W
07	2 x Xeon 3400DP (800/1mb) Socket 604	1	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	WinServer2008R2	4.5 H/s	315W
08	Pentium 2020M	2 / 2	CPUminer-opt-3.6.6	Win10x64	8.8 H/s	35W
09	Xeon E5 2670	8 / 16	pooler-cpuminer-2.5.0-win64	Windows 10 Pro 1703 x64	44 H/s	115W
10	Core i3-2330M	2 / 4	cpuminer 3.6.6	Windows 8.1 x64Pro	9.7 H/s	35W
11	Xeon E3-1240 V2 @ 3.40GHz	4 / 8	cpuminer 3.6.8	Debian 9	31.7 H/s	80W
12	2 x Xeon E5-2603 v2 @ 1.80GHz	4 / 4	pooler cpuminer	Windows server 2012	27.3 H/s	80W x 2
13	2 x Xeon E5-2620 v2 @ 2.10GHz	6 / 12	pooler cpuminer	Windows server 2012	56.7 H/s	80W x 2

AMD CPUs

#	CPU model	Cores/threads	MINER	OS	Hashrate	TDP
01	A10 5800K	4	cpuminer-opt-3.6.6	Win8.1x64	11.8 H/s	73W

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I get around 45 H/m with mine it's a Ryzen 5 1600x with 12 threads I'm using cpuminer-opt-3.6.5 though.

Do You mean 45 H/s (not H/m)? And what is your OS?

[xoma11]

I do not understand where the dude on the pool took 5 Kh  
Is this a cluster?  
OMG
In my server this speed 100 h, I got for 18 hours 0.6 vrm  

TO uralcryptocoin made corrections to the message

[trinitrotoluene]

I do not understand where the dude on the pool took 5 Kh  
Is this a cluster?  

Quite likely that person has a cluster of workers.  Its popular to find older Opteron servers (6274's) or using many XU4's for mining Verium.

[dasgardo87]

guys what happen? why all seems so much price drop in verium? 16% price drop, any fundamental reason about this? thanks

[DobroFenix]

pool is down?

[trinitrotoluene]

pool is down?

You'll have to be more specific.  There are multiple pools.  I know https://vrm.poolium.win is up and running without issues.

[BobTrade]

pool is down?

vrm2.poolinat0r.com is down 

[bde3588c]

I have been mining with poolinat0r.com and I had just hit the minimum payout 15 VRM when I stopped my miners. I confirmed deposit at 2017-09-05 20:26:03 and then went to the vrm.poolinat0r.com website a few hours later and noticed that the site was down.

Both sites (vrm.poolinat0r.com & vrm2.poolinat0r.com) have been down at least for 24 hours - I just checked a few moments ago: http://www.site24x7.com/public/t/results-1504678062209.html

I switched to https://poolium.win/ and threw the hashes that I was using on poolinat0r.com but the pool is not displaying the correct hash values so I stopped after about 3 hours. I emailed support but haven't heard anything back but it's only been a few hours.

I liked poolinat0r.com, I hope nothing bad has happened...

[bde3588c]

vrm.poolinat0r.com is back now. They even changed the minimum Automatic Payout Threshold from 15 to 7:

Automatic Payout Threshold
7 - 78 VRM. Set to '0' for no auto payout. A 0.21 VRM TX fee will apply

[trinitrotoluene]

I have been mining with poolinat0r.com and I had just hit the minimum payout 15 VRM when I stopped my miners. I confirmed deposit at 2017-09-05 20:26:03 and then went to the vrm.poolinat0r.com website a few hours later and noticed that the site was down.

Both sites (vrm.poolinat0r.com & vrm2.poolinat0r.com) have been down at least for 24 hours - I just checked a few moments ago: http://www.site24x7.com/public/t/results-1504678062209.html

I switched to https://poolium.win/ and threw the hashes that I was using on poolinat0r.com but the pool is not displaying the correct hash values so I stopped after about 3 hours. I emailed support but haven't heard anything back but it's only been a few hours.

I liked poolinat0r.com, I hope nothing bad has happened...

Come join us on Slack.
https://join.slack.com/t/poolium/shared_invite/MjM1MjQxNjQ1NDc1LTE1MDQzMDA2NDQtMjQwNWQ3MGIwZg

The hash rates are reporting accurate to my knowledge.  If you have any concerns, I'm usually around on slack and can help answer any questions.

[fonzerrellie]

I left my miner running all day yesterday on vrm2 and was working fine, I think it was just the website that had the issue, it seems to have paid me like normal

[cyberspacemonkey]

I'm using a Ryzen to mine VRM and as it has been stated earlier it is very memory intensive, does that mean if I increase my RAM that might help my hashrate?