DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! EDIT: Ongoing investigation!!!

[cryptodevil]

http://www.razormind.co.uk/deos-demo

what's this?

It is a link to a supposed demo that is going to go live later today for 'sale participants'. Don't forget, though, the issue isn't whether there is any software, after all Razormind used to be a clone-coin factory so we know they can copy other people's code and, even if some of it is their code, there is no evidence to suggest that it is even a credible commercial-grade platform.

BTW this:

After a month the platform had acquired 27,000 active users, mostly those using the DeOS Desktop and DeOS Office systems, while another segment of users had already begun to develop smart contracts and to write programs ready to be compiled into DeOS bytecode. This led to the development of mobile DeOS nodes and mature DeOS cellular applications.

ORLY? 27,000 active user have supposedly been testing this platform and have been busy writing contracts and creating mobile nodes and whatever 'mature DeOS cellular applications' might pretend to mean.

I call bullshit on that claim given that there would be a shedload more participants in this thread, which is the the single most active topic on Razormind/DeOS on this forum. 27,000 users of a platform would not stand idly by while the legitimacy of said platform was being challenged. We would see dozens and dozens of posts from multiple forum account every day decrying the negative statements and proffering positive words about their experience in using this platform.

Where are they?

Jawad, the question still stands about the fraudulent customer testimonials, what proof is there that Razormind even has these companies as clients? If you don't have them as clients then what do you have?

27,000 strangely-silent users, apparently.

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[spartak_t]

A dilemma is, did Razormind created idea about blockchain integrated OS, or was it taken from somewhere?

That idea is actually quite old (few years). Currently some people are working on something like the Internet, but with many blockchains. Websites, forums, social networks - you name it. Everything decentralized.

[cryptodevil]

Another perspective on the roaring success (/s) that is both the DeOS crowdsale and Razormind:

Razormind's Facebook page:


26,639 total page likes, but only 18 page likes this past week during a time they are actively seeking investment through this crowdsale and claiming a great deal of success so far?

26,639 page likes yet no comments on any of the posts in the timeline?

Anybody thinking that the claim Jawad makes about the mythical "27,000 active users" is actually just this number from his facebook account for Razormind?

That's nearly 27,000 fraudulent 'likes' but, then, seeing as they're already guilty of deceiving people through posting fraudulent customer testimonials, what's a bitcoin or two-worth of fake page-likes to add to the mix?

Jawad, the legal term you are looking for is, "Fraudulent misrepresentation" considering that you are inciting people into buying in to your 'crowdsale' on the premise of information you are presenting to them which is misleading and/or false.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fraudulent_misrepresentation

Fraudulent Misrepresentation
Under contract law, a plaintiff can recover against a defendant on the grounds of fraudulent misrepresentation if (1) a representation was made; (2) that was false; (3) that when made, the representation was known to be false or made recklessly without knowledge of its truth; (4) that it was made with the intention that the plaintiff rely on it; (5) that the plaintiff did rely on it; and (6) that the plaintiff suffered damages as a result.

[pbleak]

This one is pretty brazen. Amazed there has been no more fuss about it.

[pbleak]

So did anyone try out what they released or whatever?

[suchmoon]

27,000 strangely-silent users, apparently.

Vocal facebook likes and twitter followers cost much more. Judging by this thread they could afford only one shill.

[menace.bit]

IBTTimes had removed the article about Razormind, but I see recently they republished it. So this would show me that this major news outlet has verified that this is in fact not a scam if they republished an article?? I cannot see what other explanation there would be

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/razorminds-deos-crowdsale-raises-1-9m-bitcoin-first-week-1572917

Razormind has came out and said they have zero connection to razorcoin. This was a error from Cointelegraph. Coin Telegraph has since removed this information.  


I have ZERO financial stake in Razormind. I own no tokens or have any direct influence on this project.

despite all the accusations, they still raised 1.9 million in their crowdsale. very high risk - will there be a reward for the brave investors?

[suchmoon]

IBTTimes had removed the article about Razormind, but I see recently they republished it. So this would show me that this major news outlet has verified that this is in fact not a scam if they republished an article?? I cannot see what other explanation there would be

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/razorminds-deos-crowdsale-raises-1-9m-bitcoin-first-week-1572917

Razormind has came out and said they have zero connection to razorcoin. This was a error from Cointelegraph. Coin Telegraph has since removed this information.  


I have ZERO financial stake in Razormind. I own no tokens or have any direct influence on this project.

despite all the accusations, they still raised 1.9 million in their crowdsale. very high risk - will there be a reward for the brave investors?

Which part of "blatant scam" spells "reward"? It's not high risk, it's high stupidity, but unfortunately raising a million or two based on a mere mention of "blockchain" is still possible these days. Crypto is the new dotcom bubble.

[spartak_t]

Razormind has came out and said they have zero connection to razorcoin. This was a error from Cointelegraph. Coin Telegraph has since removed this information.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583706.msg6440899#msg6440899

Dear Hakan,

You have disclosed that you want to resolve the original deal made between you and Razormind. If this is sincerely the case, we ask that you kindly reply to our last email with the offer to complete the project. Razormind are happy to make any adjustments required to ensure you are completely satisfied with our services, as long as the specifications remain completely within the law. We will be contacting you directly to discuss your issues, and provide further technical support to you to ensure your new coin is up and running.

Regards

Jawad Yaqub
Razorcoin

[kame.japan2]

http://www.razormind.co.uk/deos-demo

what's this?

It is a link to a supposed demo that is going to go live later today for 'sale participants'. Don't forget, though, the issue isn't whether there is any software, after all Razormind used to be a clone-coin factory so we know they can copy other people's code and, even if some of it is their code, there is no evidence to suggest that it is even a credible commercial-grade platform.

BTW this:

After a month the platform had acquired 27,000 active users, mostly those using the DeOS Desktop and DeOS Office systems, while another segment of users had already begun to develop smart contracts and to write programs ready to be compiled into DeOS bytecode. This led to the development of mobile DeOS nodes and mature DeOS cellular applications.

ORLY? 27,000 active user have supposedly been testing this platform and have been busy writing contracts and creating mobile nodes and whatever 'mature DeOS cellular applications' might pretend to mean.

I call bullshit on that claim given that there would be a shedload more participants in this thread, which is the the single most active topic on Razormind/DeOS on this forum. 27,000 users of a platform would not stand idly by while the legitimacy of said platform was being challenged. We would see dozens and dozens of posts from multiple forum account every day decrying the negative statements and proffering positive words about their experience in using this platform.

Where are they?

Jawad, the question still stands about the fraudulent customer testimonials, what proof is there that Razormind even has these companies as clients? If you don't have them as clients then what do you have?

27,000 strangely-silent users, apparently.

agreed. the so-called-DeOS-software can not be downloaded unless you deposit BTC or ETH. that's good trick of priming. watch out everyone.

[cryptodevil]

Razormind has came out and said they have zero connection to razorcoin. This was a error from Cointelegraph. Coin Telegraph has since removed this information. 

Careful not to get drawn into this issue as they can use it to keep avoiding answering to the proven fraudulent actions, whereas this one is being muddied up by the fact 'Razormind' used to be operating 'Razorcoin.com' for their coin-cloning service and during that time came 'Razorco.in' which was the Bryce Weiner (It uses TOR!!1!1!!!) shitcoin 'RZR'.

Given that both Razormind-owned twitter accounts are shown to have been tweeting about the high market price 'RZR' had got to at the time, it does show there is a connection but it could have just been that they created 'RZR' on request and were just hyping how 'successful' it had been to try and drum up more business for their coin production service.

despite all the accusations, they still raised 1.9 million in their crowdsale. very high risk - will there be a reward for the brave investors?

Yes but did they, though? ALL information in that regards is being given by the very same person and company who stands to gain most from raising interest in the sale and what better way than to imply a huge rush of deposits had already been received.

27,000 strangely-silent users, apparently.

Vocal facebook likes and twitter followers cost much more. Judging by this thread they could afford only one shill.

Which again leads me to question just how much, or rather how little, interest there actually is in this scam. We're all more than familiar with the breathless shit-posting from excitable fanbois of the latest shutupandtakemymoney ICO. Literally spraying threads with price talk and aggressively defending the highly-questionable nature of whichever shutupandtakemymoney ICO they've thrown their hard-earned dust at.

[pbleak]

They have taken a rather grim approach. Unless you pay in you can't verify so outsiders can't call scam.

If you pay in you likely realise it is a scam, but are too embarrassed to say anything.

I'd say they made a few bitcoin from this, maybe 10-20.

[kame.japan2]

how sure "Jawad Yaqub" is credible enough? is this his real name? any confirmation???

[cryptodevil]

how sure "Jawad Yaqub" is credible enough? is this his real name? any confirmation???

Well his youtube account goes back four years so it doesn't look like an identity-based con.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jawadyaqub/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

There's a mix of personal videos and a whole bunch of low-rent promo clips he's had done for Razormind over that time, including my favourite, a night-time multiple city-scape shot of all the "Razormind Locations" which, funnily enough don't show anything other than city-scapes from around the world.

I've come across a mention of these supposed 27,000 'active users' in an interview he did over a year and a half ago for 'Melbourne Bitcoin Technology Center'. At the 28:30 mark he claims that people have been signing up to test and code on DeOS at a rate of a couple of hundred per hour "since the beginning" and then he makes the claim for a 'current' count of 27,000. This was in January 2015. So apparently they got those 27,000 users over a year and a half ago, all of whom remained utterly silent about DeOS and have never spoken of it or posted about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExxf9sPU0E

[spartak_t]

how sure "Jawad Yaqub" is credible enough? is this his real name? any confirmation???

I believe that this is his real name, but that doesn't really justify his/their actions:

https://www.facebook.com/jawad.yaqub

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MYxNzNeVRRxw

[mmortal03]

Is there anything Razormind haven't just simply ripped from someone else and claimed it as their own?

Razormind is the blockchain for babies and pastels:






Was taken from this: http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/portrait-of-woman-at-work-high-res-stock-photography/169997695


And:

[mmortal03]

More here: https://www.facebook.com/rzrmind/photos

[spartak_t]

More here: https://www.facebook.com/rzrmind/photos

What if they paid the rights to use these images? Maybe we should ask gettyimages on Twitter?

[mmortal03]

More here: https://www.facebook.com/rzrmind/photos

What if they paid the rights to use these images? Maybe we should ask gettyimages on Twitter?

lol, even if they did, it's hilariously not representative of their team or their product.

[freedomfighter]

how sure "Jawad Yaqub" is credible enough? is this his real name? any confirmation???

Well his youtube account goes back four years so it doesn't look like an identity-based con.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jawadyaqub/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

There's a mix of personal videos and a whole bunch of low-rent promo clips he's had done for Razormind over that time, including my favourite, a night-time multiple city-scape shot of all the "Razormind Locations" which, funnily enough don't show anything other than city-scapes from around the world.

I've come across a mention of these supposed 27,000 'active users' in an interview he did over a year and a half ago for 'Melbourne Bitcoin Technology Center'. At the 28:30 mark he claims that people have been signing up to test and code on DeOS at a rate of a couple of hundred per hour "since the beginning" and then he makes the claim for a 'current' count of 27,000. This was in January 2015. So apparently they got those 27,000 users over a year and a half ago, all of whom remained utterly silent about DeOS and have never spoken of it or posted about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExxf9sPU0E

Cryptodevil: Unbelievable job. Thank you. I googled more management team members and for example:

The only return for Fida Muhasain
FIDA MUHASAIN
Heading Consulting and Architectural practices in the EMEA for Razormind, Feda specialized in Data Mining through a Masters by Research in Jordan University before moving onto a PHD in Computing Information Systems. As a TOGAF architect she brings clarity and excellence to Razormind freelance and commercial programmes. She speaks Arabic, English, and French and has a sense of humour somewhere.
Jul 26, 2016

is this: https://www.google.co.il/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=FIDA+MUHASAIN

Or check the Ismail Malik that's related to blockchains projects. few retweets on DEOS but scroll down to the history

https://twitter.com/disruptiv