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October 11, 2016, 10:06:46 AM
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It's pretty sad that there is still no reaction from CoinTelegraph and there are like 105 "red lights" in Razormind's actions in this thread so far.

EDIT: There are 3 articles about Razormind, written by CT: https://cointelegraph.com/tags/razormind

The fact that they don't have a "contact us" email tells me they know they suck because they probably got a ton of hate mail last time they tried that.

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I found a lady called "FEDA AL MUHISEN" at http://agusbudi.com/ but she is introduced as "FIDA MUHASAIN" in Razormind Leadership site http://www.razormind.co.uk/experts/.

Ismail Malik has delisted from from the Leadership list. Next one would be FIDA MUHASAIN???


EDIT : The Leadership site says she was in "Jordan University" but "Aix Marseille Université" would be the right one.

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October 11, 2016, 11:58:05 AM
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http://razorco.in/
This site is still live and registered to staticinstance@gmail.com

StaticInstance is also a Github contributor currently active.
https://www.npmjs.com/~staticinstance
http://staticinstance.js.org/

What is the relationship here?
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October 11, 2016, 02:23:45 PM
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With regards to the 'Leadership' page of profiles, now they've had to finally remove Ismael let's scrutinise who is left. First up we have Mr James Ferguson
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or, to give him his proper title, Doctor James Ferguson.

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According to Jawad and Phil, Doctor Ferguson's 'key skills' are user engagement and building effective brands. Which I'm sure would come as quite the surprise to him, seeing as most people would likely describe Dr Ferguson's key skills as, well, being a fucking doctor!

So I kinda wondered if there was a connection between James Ferguson and Jawad Yaqub. It turns out, there is! They both follow each other on Instagram, which again left me puzzled as to how on earth a Belfast fraudster would happen to know a NY medical professional enough to both be following each other.

Turns out there is a shared connection they both have:

Dr Ferguson's leaked mac.com password (don't worry it has been changed since) tells you what connects him to Jawad:
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So, @Noziak, do you *still* not want to 'go there'?







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October 11, 2016, 03:32:54 PM
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that's remind me that;  in Linkedin, both James and Jawad recommended each other in same day - Sept. 1st. 2012. Shocked

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October 11, 2016, 03:57:32 PM
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You've got some skills cryptodevil!
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With regards to the 'Leadership' page of profiles, now they've had to finally remove Ismael let's scrutinise who is left. First up we have Mr James Ferguson

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Hahaha! I'm not sure why you are still making researches on them. People's stupidity is mind boggling and that has been proven many, many times. To me this was enough:

Me: Hey, Razormind, I saw some strange discrepancies in your crowdsale, care to elaborate on them?
They: It's normal people to get confused. Write us at hello@whateverthemailwas.com to clear them out.
Me: But I have demanded (several times) for a public explanation?
They: Ignore. 
Me: Then fuck off, you are scammers.

What's the point of digging more?

And I've just noticed something else, which I find strange. 2 of the 3 articles about Razormind on CT were written by Niall Maye (source: https://cointelegraph.com/tags/razormind). I've noticed that recently he started following @FAILCommunity on Twitter (I am in control of the account). You can see who Mr. Maye is, but that's not the main point. The main point is that I know a guy who knows Niall in person. The guy is a former Director of Slovenia's Bitcoin Association and he is also affiliated with CT. He is a great and a very humble person! I have him on Facebook, we've talk A LOT about our lives, families and such. He also helped me in number of occasions.

What I basically mean - he's a gem. But why CT is not taking any actions?!

Hmmm....

@CoinTelegraph,

Guys, I know you are busy, but it would take you like 1 hour of "researches" (more than enough were already made) to expose that utter scam. I already named 2 guys affiliated with you and for which I can say they are good, but this is....   

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October 12, 2016, 09:26:18 AM
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With regards to the 'Leadership' page of profiles, now they've had to finally remove Ismael let's scrutinise who is left. First up we have Mr James Ferguson

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Hahaha! I'm not sure why you are still making researches on them.

Because I have concerns which go beyond whether this is just a personal grab for cash from Jawad. You see, I thought that Dr Ferguson was probably just going to be somebody who knew Jawad through some sort of Islamic social media connection and that he would have no idea his profile was being fraudulently presented by Razormind.

Turns out I was wrong. It would seem Dr Ferguson knows all about Razormind. Which is beyond disturbing seeing as he is an actual practising Doctor of Medicine and NOT an IT guy or a 'brand' specialist. This now raises the question of whether he is knowingly colluding with Jawad.

Let me show you how I go from "Dr Ferguson is just an innocent Muslim being used by another Muslim" to "Dr Ferguson's apparent knowledge of Razormind suggests he is in on the fraud".

The following link is Mr100Percent's everything2 writeups list:
http://everything2.com/node/superdoc/Everything+User+Search?node_id=1223826&usersearch=mr100percent&orderby=writeup.publishtime+DESC&submit=submit

Most of it is over a decade old but you can use it to get a good indication of the sort of topics he writes about so you can try out some more refined searches like:
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Which leads to hits like:
http://terrorismmyths.blogspot.com
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Allowing you to learn not just that his previously-compromised mr100percent@mac.com address is now mr100percent@gmail.com, but also that James Ferguson's Islamic name is Sulayman. A quick search on "Sulayman Ferguson" brings us to his very active predominantly-medicine-and-Islam-themed twitter account @SulaymanF

Checking through the list of people he follows through that account, we see references to medicine etc. but also, what's this?
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Oh look, he actually follows Razormind (he also follows the previous account 'Razorcoin' btw, so he's been connected to Jawad for quite a while). So he must know that he is listed as a 'brand expert' and head of Razormind's 'US operation'.

Which is why we are left scratching our head wondering what a practising New York Doctor is doing allowing his name to be used to present him as something he is not for a company which has a proven history of presenting itself as something it is not and which just collected several million dollars in bitcoin through a fraudulent 'crowdsale'.



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October 12, 2016, 09:59:44 AM
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And I've just noticed something else, which I find strange. 2 of the 3 articles about Razormind on CT were written by Niall Maye (source: https://cointelegraph.com/tags/razormind). I've noticed that recently he started following @FAILCommunity on Twitter (I am in control of the account). You can see who Mr. Maye is, but that's not the main point. The main point is that I know a guy who knows Niall in person. The guy is a former Director of Slovenia's Bitcoin Association and he is also affiliated with CT. He is a great and a very humble person! I have him on Facebook, we've talk A LOT about our lives, families and such. He also helped me in number of occasions.

What I basically mean - he's a gem. But why CT is not taking any actions?!

Ummm,
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Message ID   <025801d1eec7$ca21a440$5e64ecc0$@razormind.co.uk>
Created at:   Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:16 AM (Delivered after -18 seconds)
From:   Jawad Yaqub <jawad@razormind.co.uk>...
This is a good time then to announce some great friends:

*        Niall Maye - Communications and Strategy Advisor.

*        Rob Malda - DeOS Foundation Strategy Advisor.

*        Frances Coppola - DeOS Foundation Economic Strategy Advisor


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October 13, 2016, 12:57:10 PM
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Please note Jawad is not speaking at The coinsbank conference or any conferences

He is pretty definitely *supposed* to be at GOTO on 13th of this month. https://gotocon.com/london-2016/presentations/show_talk.jsp?oid=7985

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If the authorities don't pick him up first, that is. I wonder if he'll pull a 'Josh Garza' and simply not attend.


Oh. Look. I am shocked. Shocked I tell you.

https://gotocon.com/london-2016/schedule/wednesday.jsp
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October 13, 2016, 03:02:31 PM
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It looks like Jawad Yaqub isn't on the roster now.

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Ok, so with regards to:
TX 1: https://blockchain.info/address/1GGRoVoQpztuEGS5pHvJiaELsr7VZfVFoL for 0.1 BTC

Tx 2: https://blockchain.info/address/12vZ6B4o5R3D5arUJUCk15ZPuxEAW8Gq8j for 0.15 BTC

So I went and traced their transactions on the blockchain and found the crowdsale money has now been moved to one address:

https://blockchain.info/address/3Q8pgRFtxbUp8wtGbtQqRNXPs1B4i6enu1

A whole 6,119.319402 BTC!!! That's crazy!

I recall doing a search on that address when 'rippleme' first posted it and didn't get any other hits at the time, but having revisited the issue recently I found that a few days later this was posted on the Antshares blog:
https://www.antshares.org/zh-CN/Blog/Details/36
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Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.

http://www.razormind.co.uk/crowdsale/
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So the question now is, where are the bitcoins from the DEOS ICO?


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It is razircoin's rebrand, how can these guys are so shameless, even don't change a name. LMAO
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With regards to the 'Leadership' page of profiles, now they've had to finally remove Ismael let's scrutinise who is left. First up we have Mr James Ferguson

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Hahaha! I'm not sure why you are still making researches on them.

Because I have concerns which go beyond whether this is just a personal grab for cash from Jawad. You see, I thought that Dr Ferguson was probably just going to be somebody who knew Jawad through some sort of Islamic social media connection and that he would have no idea his profile was being fraudulently presented by Razormind.

Turns out I was wrong. It would seem Dr Ferguson knows all about Razormind. Which is beyond disturbing seeing as he is an actual practising Doctor of Medicine and NOT an IT guy or a 'brand' specialist. This now raises the question of whether he is knowingly colluding with Jawad.

Let me show you how I go from "Dr Ferguson is just an innocent Muslim being used by another Muslim" to "Dr Ferguson's apparent knowledge of Razormind suggests he is in on the fraud".

The following link is Mr100Percent's everything2 writeups list:
http://everything2.com/node/superdoc/Everything+User+Search?node_id=1223826&usersearch=mr100percent&orderby=writeup.publishtime+DESC&submit=submit

Most of it is over a decade old but you can use it to get a good indication of the sort of topics he writes about so you can try out some more refined searches like:
Quote


Which leads to hits like:
http://terrorismmyths.blogspot.com
Quote


Allowing you to learn not just that his previously-compromised mr100percent@mac.com address is now mr100percent@gmail.com, but also that James Ferguson's Islamic name is Sulayman. A quick search on "Sulayman Ferguson" brings us to his very active predominantly-medicine-and-Islam-themed twitter account @SulaymanF

Checking through the list of people he follows through that account, we see references to medicine etc. but also, what's this?
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Oh look, he actually follows Razormind (he also follows the previous account 'Razorcoin' btw, so he's been connected to Jawad for quite a while). So he must know that he is listed as a 'brand expert' and head of Razormind's 'US operation'.

Which is why we are left scratching our head wondering what a practising New York Doctor is doing allowing his name to be used to present him as something he is not for a company which has a proven history of presenting itself as something it is not and which just collected several million dollars in bitcoin through a fraudulent 'crowdsale'.


I just wonder those scammers are related to terrosim?   Shocked Shocked  Shit, hope no retarded donate money to them.
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For avid followers of this thread I can assure you there is a MUCH, MUCH bigger reveal in the pipeline heading this way. But, in the meantime, just for funzies, it turns out some of these 'champions' in receipt of 'field promotions' have sod all web presence other than a few rather scammy hits:

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Created at:   Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:16 AM (Delivered after -18 seconds)
From:   Jawad Yaqub <jawad@razormind.co.uk>
To:   ...adiliftikhar@yahoo.com...


I'm going to congratulation the following champions on their field
promotions:

*        Adil Iftikar is joining us as COO (Chief Operations Officer)

*        Ismail Malik is joining us as CCO (Chief Communications Officer)

*        David Mondrus is now our COO of USA

*        Feda Muhasen is now Chief Architect for Europe.


http://report-spam.email/adiliftikhar/yahoo.com
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Feel free to look up Mr Adil Iftikhar yourself. You'd have thought somebody holding the prestigious position of COO for a 'global' corporation such as Razormind (pretends to be) would have a little more of a presence online than that of a "email me on my yahoo address for investment advice" scammer.


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Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.


Eh... still doesn't rule it out. Maybe everybody who bought tokens got theirs before the last day.

BUT

I did notice the address I sent mine to did not move until a couple of weeks after the sale ended.

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Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.


Eh... still doesn't rule it out. Maybe everybody who bought tokens got theirs before the last day.

You're missing the point. Why would they have consolidated all the deposits into that multisig address before the crowdsale had even ended?


I did notice the address I sent mine to did not move until a couple of weeks after the sale ended.

Any chance you can let us know the deposit address you were given so we can see where it was moved to?


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AFAIK, Antshares ICO is bit unique that they said they can give you an option to refund BTC after ICO. If Anshares token rise investor would be happy and if market price bellow ICO price, you can claim to Antshares for rufunding BTC. This means to Jawad that this ICO scheme can be a good BTC bank. 

So, the scammer may split collected BTC to two streams that 1) routed to Antshares ICO 2) routed to Jawad wallet.

is this the case?

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Now, given that the dates they give for the duration of their ICO match up with the activity for the transactions leading into the multisig address and that, something I found odd at the time, Razormind's DEOS ICO actually ended a day later, we can conclude that this multisig address is not from the DEOS ICO/crowdsale.


Eh... still doesn't rule it out. Maybe everybody who bought tokens got theirs before the last day.

You're missing the point. Why would they have consolidated all the deposits into that multisig address before the crowdsale had even ended?


I did notice the address I sent mine to did not move until a couple of weeks after the sale ended.

Any chance you can let us know the deposit address you were given so we can see where it was moved to?



Here is the deposit address I was given:

1C7kENAgEXRZABPiJavwm5UJTsTQqayuKZ

Thanks for continuing to look into it!
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So, the scammer may split collected BTC to two streams that 1) routed to Antshares ICO 2) routed to Jawad wallet.

is this the case?

No, it is more likely that the address posted by 'Rippleme' was incorrectly identified as Razormind's when it was actually the Antshares escrow.

'rippleme' said he had traced the payments made by his friends, but he also didn't know that a bitcoin address beginning with 3 denotes a multisig address, so it suggests he is not overly familiar with the blockchain.

Either that or his post was an intentional 'red herring' to mislead us.

Given some of the evidence coming to light back here it would not surprise me.


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