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January 03, 2017, 03:27:28 AM
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Actually, Bitcoin has competitors. The problem is that most of them chose the wrong way to try to reach Bitcoin.
So far I have not seen any PoS coin reaching a market cap near to the Bitcoin market cap, or at least remain stable in the market for quite a while, and even then people keep choosing the same path to create new cryptos.
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January 03, 2017, 03:41:03 AM
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i think in crypto currency, bitcoin don't have competitor but in other investment, gold is the heavy competitor because gold is use by the many of people which have money to buy gold. so bitcoin is still be the king in crypto currency and its never replace by another crypto currencies.

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January 03, 2017, 03:47:35 AM
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i think in crypto currency, bitcoin don't have competitor but in other investment, gold is the heavy competitor because gold is use by the many of people which have money to buy gold. so bitcoin is still be the king in crypto currency and its never replace by another crypto currencies.
I agree to you, Bitcoin is the king of crypto currency and I dont think it will be replace by any crypto currency like you think. We cant compare gold and bitcoin as competitor because they are both different. Both gold and bitcoin is now very valuable that any one of us wants it.

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January 03, 2017, 06:49:08 AM
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i think in crypto currency, bitcoin don't have competitor but in other investment, gold is the heavy competitor because gold is use by the many of people which have money to buy gold. so bitcoin is still be the king in crypto currency and its never replace by another crypto currencies.
I agree to you, Bitcoin is the king of crypto currency and I dont think it will be replace by any crypto currency like you think. We cant compare gold and bitcoin as competitor because they are both different. Both gold and bitcoin is now very valuable that any one of us wants it.

Of course Bitcoin has competitors, all the other cryptos compete against Bitcoin. Not very successful right now, but this can change any minute. Also Gold serves a different purpose, because most use it not as an investment to make money, but to diversify. If the stock market and Bitcoin go bonkers, then you still have some value not like people who lost it all.

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January 03, 2017, 07:00:37 AM
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Of course Bitcoin has competitors, all the other cryptos compete against Bitcoin. Not very successful right now, but this can change any minute. Also Gold serves a different purpose, because most use it not as an investment to make money, but to diversify. If the stock market and Bitcoin go bonkers, then you still have some value not like people who lost it all.

None of the other altcoins have even one-hundredth of the user-base which Bitcoin is having right now. They can't rival Bitcoin in popularity, reach and technology. That is the main reason why their exchange rates are not rising right now.

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January 03, 2017, 07:10:50 AM
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Of course Bitcoin has competitors, all the other cryptos compete against Bitcoin. Not very successful right now, but this can change any minute. Also Gold serves a different purpose, because most use it not as an investment to make money, but to diversify. If the stock market and Bitcoin go bonkers, then you still have some value not like people who lost it all.

None of the other altcoins have even one-hundredth of the user-base which Bitcoin is having right now. They can't rival Bitcoin in popularity, reach and technology. That is the main reason why their exchange rates are not rising right now.
Then tell me how one can start as an altcoin with as user base as big as Bitcoin or whatever you need to be satisfied. If you start there is no user base, but that does not mean it is a bad coin. The user base can grow quickly. 

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January 03, 2017, 08:15:41 AM
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Bitcoin is like Usain Bolt and the records that bitcoin broken in the cryto currency world could not be matched no matter how many coins people come out with and since we have seen a couple of thousand coins and assets till now i do not think that nothing could challenge bitcoin.

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January 03, 2017, 09:53:01 AM
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Bitcoin is like Usain Bolt and the records that bitcoin broken in the cryto currency world could not be matched no matter how many coins people come out with and since we have seen a couple of thousand coins and assets till now i do not think that nothing could challenge bitcoin.

Many of them are actually great ideas, but too bad Bitcoin cannot get like updates and add all the great features up to it. I think we'll see some challengers, for example Monero is one of the possible ones. It's growing very fast and has even less coins to be mined than Bitcoin has. We'll get a few challengers but I don't think any coin will ever get past Bitcoin. Nobody will ever trust any coin more than they will trust Bitcoin!
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January 03, 2017, 06:23:25 PM
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Bitcoin is like Usain Bolt and the records that bitcoin broken in the cryto currency world could not be matched no matter how many coins people come out with and since we have seen a couple of thousand coins and assets till now i do not think that nothing could challenge bitcoin.

Many of them are actually great ideas, but too bad Bitcoin cannot get like updates and add all the great features up to it. I think we'll see some challengers, for example Monero is one of the possible ones. It's growing very fast and has even less coins to be mined than Bitcoin has. We'll get a few challengers but I don't think any coin will ever get past Bitcoin. Nobody will ever trust any coin more than they will trust Bitcoin!

Bitcoin has already patented the primary idea behind cryptocurrencies

I refer to a paradigm of confirming transactions in a trustless decentralized environment using public-key cryptography. Almost all altcoins are using the same approach (if not all of them), so, in this respect, they are no more than copycats, whether you like it or not. That's why it is impossible for them to effectively compete with Bitcoin. Regarding new great features that worthy altcoins might actually have, they need to be tested by time and real use to be considered for replicating in Bitcoin

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Bitcoin has already patented the primary idea behind cryptocurrencies

I refer to a paradigm of confirming transactions in a trustless decentralized environment using public-key cryptography. Almost all altcoins are using the same approach (if not all of them), so, in this respect, they are no more than copycats, whether you like it or not. That's why it is impossible for them to effectively compete with Bitcoin. Regarding new great features that worthy altcoins might actually have, they need to be tested by time and real use to be considered for replicating in Bitcoin

That must also be the reason why no other car exists but Daimler-Benz.  After all, they invented the internal combustion engine with 4 strokes, and all other cars are just copycats.  So they never made it to the market, and Toyota never got beyond a measly market cap compared to Daimler-Benz.  Or did it ?

There's still another difficulty with bitcoin: "protocol-stiffness".  It is increasingly difficult to modify profoundly the technology of an existing crypto currency, because its value proposition resides exactly in the immutability of its basic principles.  The more mature a crypto currency gets, the harder it becomes to change anything fundamentally.  This is not true with other technologies, where the first mover often also has most experience in *improving* technology.  Bitcoin is stuck with old technology, and it is much harder to get new features into bitcoin, than it is to create a new coin, or implement new features in a young coin that is still malleable enough to accept modifications.

The most striking problems of bitcoin are of course the backed-in limited amount of transactions per second, which seem hugely difficult to overcome.  And the transparency of the block chain (in other words, the failure of pseudonymity, because of the networks of change payments, and combinations, which propagate unwillingly a lot of real world knowledge of identities), together with the too simple PoW scheme which has led to ASIC mining and hence, re-centralisation.

That said, because of most of crypto today is speculation on exchange IOU tokens, the actual block chain tech doesn't really matter for the moment.  The speculative game that supports most of the market cap of bitcoin and crypto in general doesn't even need any block chain, so the technology doesn't really matter (apart for boasting and hyping).  The little use that is really made of crypto can do with just any block chain tech. 
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January 03, 2017, 08:37:08 PM
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I agree that BTC has really no competition,at least for what we are seeing now there are no other cryptocurrencies ready to compete with it,BTC is the leader of the cryptos with the biggest market share,it is the most traded crypto and the one with the biggest possibilities in front of it.I think people associate BTC with the technology that will be able to change how things are working right now,which is extremely important for BTC.

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in my opinion bitcoin has competition.
Other crypto like litecoin, rubies, eth , moon etc getting popularity nowadays.
Bitcoin grow so high because so many service using bitcoin, even some ransomware decryptor need to paid with bitcoin.
that why bitcoin more famous than other alt-coin.
I keep seeing and hearing many jokes similar to these ones above nowadays Cheesy moon rubies just lol, litecoin might be a right choice to try for a quick buck but competing with bitcoin? please stop dreaming and start to think how will you be able to wake up.
Crypto is now out in the open, so people should really see other coins potentials faster than before right? now take a look at top 10 marketcap and tell me if you found a +$50 coin.

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January 03, 2017, 09:02:53 PM
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i think in crypto currency, bitcoin don't have competitor but in other investment, gold is the heavy competitor because gold is use by the many of people which have money to buy gold. so bitcoin is still be the king in crypto currency and its never replace by another crypto currencies.
you are right that no one can be replace bitcoin by another crypto currency because bitcoin is very much stronger and powerful currency and i think bitcoin is much more better and profitable than gold and people like to invest their money in bitcoin instead gold.
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January 03, 2017, 09:39:12 PM
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That aint really competition. It is more like alternatives. Those have different definition. I would say they are like mimicking bitcoin in order to create their own profits.
Still they wont reach it. Look at how far the value is and how far the price is to other coins.
They are competing for the same market share so every single altcoin is a competitor to bitcoin, but they are not really big right now, but there are some very interesting coins out there that may pose a threat in the future.
in fact all the alt coins that you consider as the competitors of bitcoin are still far behind from  bitcoin, in one sense we can say that that there is no competitor of bitcoin, and bitcoin is the best of all the currency so far created
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January 03, 2017, 09:58:21 PM
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in my opinion bitcoin has competition.
Other crypto like litecoin, rubies, eth , moon etc getting popularity nowadays.
Bitcoin grow so high because so many service using bitcoin, even some ransomware decryptor need to paid with bitcoin.
that why bitcoin more famous than other alt-coin.

All of these coins have no reputation. They have no proven track record, except from Ethereum or Monero, but Ethereum has suffered from several hard forks as well as the DAO hack that severely damaged its reputation.

If there was no bitcoin then there will be no Eth, XMR, LTC or anything like that. Bitcoin has the reputation of being the first cryptocoin and that's one part of why it is superior to the altcoins even though altcoins may have more functions than bitcoins.
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January 03, 2017, 10:20:34 PM
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i think in crypto currency, bitcoin don't have competitor but in other investment, gold is the heavy competitor because gold is use by the many of people which have money to buy gold. so bitcoin is still be the king in crypto currency and its never replace by another crypto currencies.
you are right that no one can be replace bitcoin by another crypto currency because bitcoin is very much stronger and powerful currency and i think bitcoin is much more better and profitable than gold and people like to invest their money in bitcoin instead gold.
i agree with you bitcoin is very much stronger currency and getting more power day by day and you are right that bitcoin is more profitable than gold because bitcoin increasing its price too much faster so we can get big profit in short time from bitcoin and gold increasing its price too much slow and we can not get big profit in short time from gold.
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January 03, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
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Bitcoin is perfect for transactions where traceability is desired, and to some extent, transparency. This is because all Bitcoin transactions are visible on the blockchain. Businesses love this feature of Bitcoin, not to mention that chargebacks are impossible. Bitcoin is very business friendly, and I'm still surprised at how few businesses realize all the benefits that BTC offers. If they're concerned about volality, they can instantly convert the BTC to cash via Coinbase or another service.

When privacy is desired, Monero is the better choice. A rich list can't exist since Monero is truly private. There are companies which specialize in tracing Bitcoin transactions (https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php) so if privacy and/or anonymity is desired, go with Monero. Now that Monero has a GUI, even more people will begin using it.

In that sense, Bitcoin has competition, but I view that as complimentary competition and not antagonistic competition: use Bitcoin for transparency, and Monero for privacy.

Comparison of Privacy-Centric Coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php also includes Verge and Pivx
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January 03, 2017, 10:24:13 PM
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I don't necessarily think that at this very moment competition is a good thing. I think the people need a coin that they can understand, they can trust, and they can adopt. Maybe in the future competition will be good, but for now I think it's necessary for one coin and one coin only to introduce the world to crypto currency. If more coins come along, that's of course never a bad thing.
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January 03, 2017, 11:00:01 PM
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I don't necessarily think that at this very moment competition is a good thing. I think the people need a coin that they can understand, they can trust, and they can adopt. Maybe in the future competition will be good, but for now I think it's necessary for one coin and one coin only to introduce the world to crypto currency. If more coins come along, that's of course never a bad thing.

I strongly agree with GMPoison opinion. This is not the time to have a competition in the sense of antagonism between currencies. Instead of it a healthy competition, in the sense of fair play would lead the crypto currencies to be done day by day better and earning mass adoption of people worldwide.
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January 03, 2017, 11:12:36 PM
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I don't necessarily think that at this very moment competition is a good thing. I think the people need a coin that they can understand, they can trust, and they can adopt. Maybe in the future competition will be good, but for now I think it's necessary for one coin and one coin only to introduce the world to crypto currency. If more coins come along, that's of course never a bad thing.

I strongly agree with GMPoison opinion. This is not the time to have a competition in the sense of antagonism between currencies. Instead of it a healthy competition, in the sense of fair play would lead the crypto currencies to be done day by day better and earning mass adoption of people worldwide.

Antagonism between "currencies" is natural.
What you are describing is unnatural and will only lead to eventual failure.

Fairplay and other types of hand holding contradicts the laws of this system.
In fact, the system works because it assumes base and malicious intent.

You are suggesting raising a child in an isolated bubble environment, only to
later purposefully expose them to all forms of common viruses and etc.

The more the system is able to withstand the competition and attacks,
the stronger the system will become. Not doing so now, will only hurt the
masses later if this system is used on any mass average population scale.

I support a decentralized & unregulatable ledger first, with safe scaling over time.
Request a signed message if you are associating with anyone claiming to be me.
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