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December 26, 2017, 09:35:57 AM
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Are there now any good pools?

Supranova is closing and miningpoolhub steals hashrate.
Any pool to mine this coin now?

I've removed the message already, it's not closing

Why did you post that the pool was closing initially?
I am now on ahashpool, not sure if I want to go back to supr nova.
You guys don't seem to be committed to anything.

The main problem is that there's basically no communication at all from the devs - the znodes were introduced with several changes to the mining consensus:
Mandatory payments to the nodes directly from the pool became necessary where the protocol would reject blocks without those payments immediately.
Usually you introduce such protocol changes to the protocol but don't enforce them at first so every (pool) can make sure they meet the specs and get it running and also do some testing if the transition etc works fine and then you enforce those payments.

Also you should meet some general consensus when integrating such payments into the "getblocktemplate" call but here it was introduced in a uncommon manner and in a non-standard way - which would have clearly could have been done a lot better if there would have been communication before (and after). There are for example still some issues here where MN addresses are changing quickly requiring an update to the template (which is why you see super-long rounds on other pools sometimes) which could be addressed from the coin side by accepting mn payments to the address before the actual address for a transition period (like it's done in dash where all the code for the masternodes come from..). It can also be fixed from the pools side but once you have enough hash you simply don't care about such things anymore i guess Smiley

Next thing is that I was encouraged or a little "forced" to ban botnets a while back with the algo change in mind and with the idea to decentralize the coin - which is a good idea as the botnets are simply controlled by one person who gets the big chunk. However the botnet just moved to a different pool which is not against botnets at all so they keep away hashing fine there and the integration of mtp is also not prioritized .. So it's a fun situation here.. Be fair or be square :-)

At last the pool was simply not profitable anymore because with 2-3 blocks per day with 0% fee it's always hard to keep it running as pools always require some maintenance. The pool would need at least 15% of the nethash (with 1% fee) to keep it pay for itself.

At last a loyal (DCR) miner helped me to keep the server for the pool running and everything is ok however i'm not in par with the devs/shills of the coin.

Now lets talk about commitment Smiley I guess I'm actually a bit overcommited to such things and thats why I'm actually still a bit pissed with the sloppiness (nice said) here. Smiley

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December 26, 2017, 09:38:55 AM
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About Fee- I am back with 1% fee :-), you deserve it !.
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December 26, 2017, 10:08:27 AM
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The main problem is that there's basically no communication at all from the devs - the znodes were introduced with several changes to the mining consensus:
Mandatory payments to the nodes directly from the pool became necessary where the protocol would reject blocks without those payments immediately.
Usually you introduce such protocol changes to the protocol but don't enforce them at first so every (pool) can make sure they meet the specs and get it running and also do some testing if the transition etc works fine and then you enforce those payments.

Also you should meet some general consensus when integrating such payments into the "getblocktemplate" call but here it was introduced in a uncommon manner and in a non-standard way - which would have clearly could have been done a lot better if there would have been communication before (and after). There are for example still some issues here where MN addresses are changing quickly requiring an update to the template (which is why you see super-long rounds on other pools sometimes) which could be addressed from the coin side by accepting mn payments to the address before the actual address for a transition period (like it's done in dash where all the code for the masternodes come from..). It can also be fixed from the pools side but once you have enough hash you simply don't care about such things anymore i guess Smiley

Next thing is that I was encouraged or a little "forced" to ban botnets a while back with the algo change in mind and with the idea to decentralize the coin - which is a good idea as the botnets are simply controlled by one person who gets the big chunk. However the botnet just moved to a different pool which is not against botnets at all so they keep away hashing fine there and the integration of mtp is also not prioritized .. So it's a fun situation here.. Be fair or be square :-)

At last the pool was simply not profitable anymore because with 2-3 blocks per day with 0% fee it's always hard to keep it running as pools always require some maintenance. The pool would need at least 15% of the nethash (with 1% fee) to keep it pay for itself.

At last a loyal (DCR) miner helped me to keep the server for the pool running and everything is ok however i'm not in par with the devs/shills of the coin.

Now lets talk about commitment Smiley I guess I'm actually a bit overcommited to such things and thats why I'm actually still a bit pissed with the sloppiness (nice said) here. Smiley

Those are certainly all valid points.  And it's unfortunate that other pools are not discouraged from housing the botnets.

One thing I noticed while returning to your pool. It looks like it uses a rather large N for PPLNS?  It might help to mention it on the front page as I expect the masses of casual miners might get discouraged when they see their "Round earnings est" creep up so slowly.  Not sure how much it would help, but I like your pool and want to see it do well. Also...I'm happy to see that I'm currently #4 in hash contribution.  But I'd be even happier to see the pool hash increase significantly.
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December 26, 2017, 10:15:28 AM
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Proportional (Prop) - The block reward is distributed among miners in proportion to the number of shares they submitted in a round. The expected reward per share depends on the number of shares already submitted in the round.
https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=about&action=pool
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December 26, 2017, 10:19:20 AM
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Are there now any good pools?

Supranova is closing and miningpoolhub steals hashrate.
Any pool to mine this coin now?

I've removed the message already, it's not closing

It is not closing, then I am back to SNova
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December 26, 2017, 10:20:59 AM
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Hello there!

Can anyone explain what the fu** is Atomic swap? )

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December 26, 2017, 10:25:36 AM
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Proportional (Prop) - The block reward is distributed among miners in proportion to the number of shares they submitted in a round. The expected reward per share depends on the number of shares already submitted in the round.
https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=about&action=pool

Yeah...I understand it and can see everything's working as expected.  I just worry about some miners trying things out for a half hour before deciding the estimate is lower than what they wanted.

MPH just shows what you made in the last 24 hours on the Dashboard. It's easy to understand why the figure starts out low.

But "Round earnings est" starting out low can be discouraging for those who don't understand it.
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December 26, 2017, 10:27:54 AM
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Proportional (Prop) - The block reward is distributed among miners in proportion to the number of shares they submitted in a round. The expected reward per share depends on the number of shares already submitted in the round.
https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=about&action=pool

Yeah...I understand it and can see everything's working as expected.  I just worry about some miners trying things out for a half hour before deciding the estimate is lower than what they wanted.

MPH just shows what you made in the last 24 hours on the Dashboard. It's easy to understand why the figure starts out low.

But "Round earnings est" starting out low can be discouraging for those who don't understand it.

With the difficulty swings and retarget for every block it's not so easy to give proper estimates and I'd encourage users to use a service like whattomine.com for that.

I'll look over the stats again in the evening

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December 26, 2017, 01:23:35 PM
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Are there now any good pools?

Supranova is closing and miningpoolhub steals hashrate.
Any pool to mine this coin now?

I've removed the message already, it's not closing

Really glad to hear your pool stays. There are many miners out there who will mine in Suprnova.

@zcoinofficial, hope you guys are able to communicate over some issues. Suprnova is of importance to this land and will be a lot help to the growth of XZC. Pls do lend supports.
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December 26, 2017, 01:48:29 PM
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'No block source available' on my wallet for hours now.

Anything I should do to get the wallet syncing such as adding nodes for example?

The beginning of a new era.
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December 26, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
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'No block source available' on my wallet for hours now.

Anything I should do to get the wallet syncing such as adding nodes for example?

Had same issue yesterday, started the wallet in cmd with "-reindex" parameter. Worked for me.

Here is a link for Mac, same parameter to be used for Win7/10.
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December 26, 2017, 02:12:59 PM
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Bought 286 zcoin before this crazy pump, wish I bought the 1000 for the znode. smh

Now if somebody has 1000 zcoins for one znode, he or she will be rich with the price 0.01xx btc (about 145usd/zcoin) . I wish I  hadn't sold all my coins when it was 30$ due to BTG fork . Now I have bought only 100 zcoins with my money I sold it before so I feel sad about this action.
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December 26, 2017, 02:29:53 PM
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'No block source available' on my wallet for hours now.

Anything I should do to get the wallet syncing such as adding nodes for example?

Had same issue yesterday, started the wallet in cmd with "-reindex" parameter. Worked for me.

Here is a link for Mac, same parameter to be used for Win7/10.

Thanks. This worked for me as well.

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December 26, 2017, 02:40:46 PM
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Bought 286 zcoin before this crazy pump, wish I bought the 1000 for the znode. smh
Now if somebody has 1000 zcoins for one znode, he or she will be rich with the price 0.01xx btc (about 145usd/zcoin) . I wish I  hadn't sold all my coins when it was 30$ due to BTG fork . Now I have bought only 100 zcoins with my money I sold it before so I feel sad about this action.
The masternode option pumps the price, as some people want to have their share of the 30% cake, no matter what the one-time investment. The 1000s of XZC are then locked up in the nodes, out of circulation, so there's further pressure to increase the price for the few remaining coins. Make of that what you will...

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December 26, 2017, 03:52:27 PM
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Guys i am mining in datapaw.net but with 18mh from yesterday still didn't get nothing and just 1 block found...
Someone has some else pool to mine xzc?
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December 26, 2017, 05:22:25 PM
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Which port do yourecommend to mine in supernova?
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December 26, 2017, 06:35:16 PM
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Guys i am mining in datapaw.net but with 18mh from yesterday still didn't get nothing and just 1 block found...
Someone has some else pool to mine xzc?
I'm also mining with them. I think we should have patience and blocks will come. The hashrate si pretty high and pool says next block will be found in 28 hours.. which is about too much for 800MH/s pool hashrate.
I will keep my miner on this pool about a week and see how's going. After that, I might switch to suprnova.
Best of luck!
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December 26, 2017, 06:59:11 PM
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Hello guys, iam looking for linux miner whitch properly works on linux. 2.2.3 on hiveOS sux, version on simplemining also sux - hashrates on pool drops to half copmare to windows ccminer mvsc2015.
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December 26, 2017, 09:01:21 PM
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Hello,

I had problems with suprnova mining pool.
The site didnt show any transaction for more than one day and someone said they had to change something.

Does the pool now work normally?

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Last edit: December 26, 2017, 10:30:38 PM by Coin++
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