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October 13, 2017, 09:29:29 AM
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Development of Zcoin is rather chaotic... devs try 10 things at the same time... we have the heavily over promised and under delivered MTP algorithm that immediately had major flaws and now is put on ice for god knows how long...

We have the Znodes, we have the mining pools, we have the urge for the Ethereum mixer(which seems to go fully unnoticed by the Ethereum community so whats the actual added value in that?), we have the sigma protocol.... all these amazing ideals... but we dont have the basics like a normal functioning wallet... no real commercial adoption for online shopping and no real effort by devs to get adoption going.. We have no real argument to take on Zcash... actually the only thing is the lack of auditable supply of Zcash... so that should be emphasised 24/7 by the devs in marketing efforts, all the time...

Crypto is a dog eat dog system with one coin to rule them all... in the Anon sphere this is Zcash and Zcoin is not putting up a fight. Do you people not understand the only way for Zcoin to go up is for Zcash to go down....

Finally Zcoin must be listed asap on Poloniex, Kraken, Bitfinex, Bithumb and other major exchanges or this market will just remain tiny and niche

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October 13, 2017, 09:58:54 AM
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Znodes: Working code base is done. Work in progress.
Mining pools: Good progress on P2Pool.
Ethereum Mixer: Completely independent dev on this that doesn't affect main dev.

What's wrong with the wallet? Have you used it recently since the latest update?

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October 13, 2017, 09:59:30 AM
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Development of Zcoin is rather chaotic... devs try 10 things at the same time... we have the heavily over promised and under delivered MTP algorithm that immediately had major flaws and now is put on ice for god knows how long...

We have the Znodes, we have the mining pools, we have the urge for the Ethereum mixer(which seems to go fully unnoticed by the Ethereum community so whats the actual added value in that?), we have the sigma protocol.... all these amazing ideals... but we dont have the basics like a normal functioning wallet... no real commercial adoption for online shopping and no real effort by devs to get adoption going.. We have no real argument to take on Zcash... actually the only thing is the lack of auditable supply of Zcash... so that should be emphasised 24/7 by the devs in marketing efforts, all the time...

Crypto is a dog eat dog system with one coin to rule them all... in the Anon sphere this is Zcash and Zcoin is not putting up a fight. Do you people not understand the only way for Zcoin to go up is for Zcash to go down....

Finally Zcoin must be listed asap on Poloniex, Kraken, Bitfinex, Bithumb and other major exchanges or this market will just remain tiny and niche



please show where btc hurt you
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October 13, 2017, 11:17:33 AM
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A quick update on MTP. We have just heard back from Dmitry and Alexy and they're still working on their revised MTP paper.

They have reviewed Fabien and Marc's papers and have some suggested solutions to it and given some preliminary feedback and discussions on it.

The proposed changes are thankfully not too radical and doesn't involve massive rewrites of MTP.
They mainly revolve around:
a) Choosing the right parameters for L and T (The choice of L and T determines the maximum adversary advantage AT_alpha in the time-area product, whereas L also determines the proof size. )
b) Having Argon2 with 1 lane only. (as proposed by Marc Bevand)
c) The main area that they are looking at is optimizing the proof sizes of MTP 10 fold by using modifications of Argon2 with smaller block sizes.

They are however very busy and we are exploring ways in which we can collaborate to accelerate this development and the new paper.

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October 13, 2017, 12:18:39 PM
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Development of Zcoin is rather chaotic... devs try 10 things at the same time... we have the heavily over promised and under delivered MTP algorithm that immediately had major flaws and now is put on ice for god knows how long...

We have the Znodes, we have the mining pools, we have the urge for the Ethereum mixer(which seems to go fully unnoticed by the Ethereum community so whats the actual added value in that?), we have the sigma protocol.... all these amazing ideals... but we dont have the basics like a normal functioning wallet... no real commercial adoption for online shopping and no real effort by devs to get adoption going.. We have no real argument to take on Zcash... actually the only thing is the lack of auditable supply of Zcash... so that should be emphasised 24/7 by the devs in marketing efforts, all the time...

Crypto is a dog eat dog system with one coin to rule them all... in the Anon sphere this is Zcash and Zcoin is not putting up a fight. Do you people not understand the only way for Zcoin to go up is for Zcash to go down....

Finally Zcoin must be listed asap on Poloniex, Kraken, Bitfinex, Bithumb and other major exchanges or this market will just remain tiny and niche



please show where btc hurt you

nope, i think that dude is telling the truth. we all see a brilliant road map , and we hope that devs live up to its promise in plan time.

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October 13, 2017, 01:02:35 PM
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you deleted my post, lol. Thats says a lot about you and your shitcoin. Scammer !

Baseless accusations will be deleted.

All your post said was that you felt that the reward was too high and that we are therefore a scammer. Even though it has been disclosed from the very first day and my explanation above still deals with it.

Will continue to do this to combat FUD.

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October 13, 2017, 01:08:58 PM
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https://www.crypto-coinz.net/

Has a nifty tool to monitor global hashrate and difficulty of Zcoin. Thanks!

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October 13, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
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Using this calculator, my four GTX 1060 6 Gb (total Hashrate of 4.7 MH/s) shoudl give me nearly $5 / day

But when I look at xzc.suprnova.cc pool stats : https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Best miner is mining at 154 MH/s and only got 0.151 XZC/day

As 1 XZC cost $9.64 (according to CoinMarketCap), this miner earn $1.45/day (without electricity cost).

Calculator is not accurate or pool is too small ? Which pool can provide those kind of estimate reward ?

Thanks.
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October 13, 2017, 03:11:23 PM
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Using this calculator, my four GTX 1060 6 Gb (total Hashrate of 4.7 MH/s) shoudl give me nearly $5 / day

But when I look at xzc.suprnova.cc pool stats : https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Best miner is mining at 154 MH/s and only got 0.151 XZC/day

As 1 XZC cost $9.64 (according to CoinMarketCap), this miner earn $1.45/day (without electricity cost).

Calculator is not accurate or pool is too small ? Which pool can provide those kind of estimate reward ?

Thanks.

just use another pool for mining (miningpoolhub). Suprnova shows not the correct calculations, all that shows suprnova just multiply by 10, that will be true
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October 13, 2017, 03:14:33 PM
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Using this calculator, my four GTX 1060 6 Gb (total Hashrate of 4.7 MH/s) shoudl give me nearly $5 / day

But when I look at xzc.suprnova.cc pool stats : https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Best miner is mining at 154 MH/s and only got 0.151 XZC/day

As 1 XZC cost $9.64 (according to CoinMarketCap), this miner earn $1.45/day (without electricity cost).

Calculator is not accurate or pool is too small ? Which pool can provide those kind of estimate reward ?

Thanks.

just use another pool for mining (miningpoolhub). Suprnova shows not the correct calculations, all that shows suprnova just multiply by 10, that will be true

Difficulty rose up from 7200 => ~8300, profit will be less than calculator
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October 13, 2017, 03:32:16 PM
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New MTP algo will be Nvidia or AMD friendly?
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October 13, 2017, 03:37:24 PM
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New MTP algo will be Nvidia or AMD friendly?
djm34 is more friendly to N-gpu , I guess Grin Grin

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October 13, 2017, 04:02:16 PM
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i use MPH no problems whatsoever .. no invalid shares , hash rate is right with the new miner and i even get more coins that showed in whattomine site tells me

sell ur Hashpower to NiceHASH and lose your money !!!!!!!
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October 13, 2017, 07:34:57 PM
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Using this calculator, my four GTX 1060 6 Gb (total Hashrate of 4.7 MH/s) shoudl give me nearly $5 / day

But when I look at xzc.suprnova.cc pool stats : https://xzc.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool

Best miner is mining at 154 MH/s and only got 0.151 XZC/day

As 1 XZC cost $9.64 (according to CoinMarketCap), this miner earn $1.45/day (without electricity cost).

Calculator is not accurate or pool is too small ? Which pool can provide those kind of estimate reward ?

Thanks.

just use another pool for mining (miningpoolhub). Suprnova shows not the correct calculations, all that shows suprnova just multiply by 10, that will be true

Difficulty rose up from 7200 => ~8300, profit will be less than calculator

You can use https://www.crypto-coinz.net/crypto-calculator/ to calculate the amount of coins you should receive every day and compare it the the pool calculation. You can see also the price.

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October 13, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
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That site is a great tool, thanks very much  Wink
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October 14, 2017, 07:41:02 AM
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with latest djm34 cuda I get lots of booo on suprnova, mph also lots of inavalid shares?
any other recomended ccminer windows version?
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October 14, 2017, 05:33:45 PM
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with latest djm34 cuda I get lots of booo on suprnova, mph also lots of inavalid shares?
any other recomended ccminer windows version?
Better buying its off the exchanges, by mining something else. Many problems are here with mining, rejects, unstability, dead pools, so on. Mine smth else and XZC, my advice to you.
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October 14, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
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how has coin been doing lately?

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October 14, 2017, 07:42:21 PM
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with latest djm34 cuda I get lots of booo on suprnova, mph also lots of inavalid shares?
any other recomended ccminer windows version?

I use 2.2.1 tpruvot with the patch file, works good.. if you search back through the posts you will find it  Wink
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October 14, 2017, 08:49:26 PM
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Of course this coin has a great future, been buying recent dips, if you compare marketcap to other anon coins xzc MC is ridicoulsy low. Not to mention superior tech comparing to other higher mc anon coins...
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