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November 04, 2016, 12:04:55 PM
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Hello, I want to know the fundamental reason that Lisk is undervalued as stated in some previous post.
I would to know and I believe other people would to.

Thank you!
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November 04, 2016, 12:07:13 PM
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Why some guys love make some FUD?

Go get a life, go earn money, go have sex, just gooo


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November 04, 2016, 12:11:31 PM
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Hello, I want to know the fundamental reason that Lisk is undervalued as stated in some previous post.
I would to know and I believe other people would to.

Thank you!

This is my personal opinion so you should take it as it is. LISK price is hitting its bottom since the start of main net (but still holding over their ICO price), Max still has almost  all of the funds ( I doubt he spent more than 500 BTC overall still leaving 13,500 BTC+) to get this thing developed (+ BTC rose, FIAT-pegged, in that time making his development stack even bigger) and I suspect things will get moving once they successfully create a foundation in Swiss , start recruiting some more developers in their team and once the community forging kicks in I think things will become even more bright since almost all of the current delegates in the top spots said they will donate percentages of forged rewards for LISK development meaning even more products, incentives, opportunities, ... . So things should start looking better development-wise for LISK next year.

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November 04, 2016, 12:11:52 PM
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Hello, I want to know the fundamental reason that Lisk is undervalued as stated in some previous post.
I would to know and I believe other people would to.

Thank you!

We can't really offer you advice about other projects and their worth. Everyone has to make their own diligence and come up with their own analysis.
I'll only say this. Lisk is still over ICO price. Lisk development has been progressing steadily. Lisk has still have almost 14k bitcoint to spend on development, PR, partnerships, etc.

Will this cause suddent price rise? No, but as we said ARK has patience. We will send out a dove every few months until we find land. Smiley

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November 04, 2016, 01:28:03 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.


They were never asked to be the escrow. Why would they be?
Max and especially Oliver have enough responsibilities with Lisk, escrow is for people with some free time.

So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified

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November 04, 2016, 01:30:25 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.


They were never asked to be the escrow. Why would they be?
Max and especially Oliver have enough responsibilities with Lisk, escrow is for people with some free time.

So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified

I have a feeling Max does not stand behind the project Ark. And that is strange, cause Ark is behind LSK, so also behind Max.

But it's just a feeling I can completely be wrong. Too bad nobody is being transparent in this matter.

And I am not trying to troll or something, just trying to be honest and try to get all the right information, before investing in something. Because hey we would be trusting you with all our money.

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November 04, 2016, 01:38:33 PM
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So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified
Again, we did not ask. I really don't understand why this is even an issue.

ICN is a different animal. In my opinion it would be bad taste to ask a project leader to escrow a fork of their project, not matter what.

As we said we are not meant to compete with Lisk but go a different direction with development (Lisk focusing on side-chain apps while ARK on bridging), but still it's like asking Max why didn't he get Boris (Crypti dev) to escrow for Lisk ICO.
Because it doesn't make sense thats why.


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November 04, 2016, 01:47:29 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.


They were never asked to be the escrow. Why would they be?
Max and especially Oliver have enough responsibilities with Lisk, escrow is for people with some free time.

So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified

I have a feeling Max does not stand behind the project Ark. And that is strange, cause Ark is behind LSK, so also behind Max.

But it's just a feeling I can completely be wrong. Too bad nobody is being transparent in this matter.

And I am not trying to troll or something, just trying to be honest and try to get all the right information, before investing in something. Because hey we would be trusting you with all our money.
You are not trolling at all, valid questions.

Only Max can answer you on his feelings towards ARK. We are supporting LISK, else we wouldn't be accepting it in our TEC and I personally think LISK still has a tremendous potential to grow, but its up to its team to take it to the next level development-wise. LISK is still a fairly young tech and it takes some time to develop it properly and get a more wider recognition outside the crypto sphere.

Its up to everyone who will participate in ARK-TEC to do his own research and see what we are trying accomplish - we are not competing with LISK since we are going a different route and target different markets.

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November 04, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.


They were never asked to be the escrow. Why would they be?
Max and especially Oliver have enough responsibilities with Lisk, escrow is for people with some free time.

So Max was free when he decided to be ICONOMI Escrow during their campaign, that point to me is not justified

I have a feeling Max does not stand behind the project Ark. And that is strange, cause Ark is behind LSK, so also behind Max.

But it's just a feeling I can completely be wrong. Too bad nobody is being transparent in this matter.

And I am not trying to troll or something, just trying to be honest and try to get all the right information, before investing in something. Because hey we would be trusting you with all our money.

We have no control over Max or how he feels toward ARK, nor do we want to. Ark is a totally different project that will stand on it's own merit. We have a team of 30 talented developers and crew all working together to accomplish great things and move ahead at a fast pace. As far as investing in Ark, that is a decision you will have to make, but we'd like to have you boarding the Ark with us!
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November 04, 2016, 01:54:11 PM
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Only Max can answer you on his feelings towards ARK.
Anyone closely following Lisk or just read the community meetings know that there are two questions that Max never comments on. The price of lisk and other projects. I think this is a very good attitude.

They asked him a bunch of times what he thinks of ETH, DAO, ETHvsLisk and the answer always something like: "I don't comment on other projects, we are focused on Lisk".

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November 04, 2016, 01:57:34 PM
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Only Max can answer you on his feelings towards ARK.
Anyone closely following Lisk or just read the community meetings know that there are two questions that Max never comments on. The price of lisk and other projects. I think this is a very good attitude.

They asked him a bunch of times what he thinks of ETH, DAO, ETHvsLisk and the answer always something like: "I don't comment on other projects, we are focused on Lisk".

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Atreides: Do you intend to have an ecosystem or something similar ethereum has with ConsenSys?I see ConsenSys cery active in lobbying ethereun in the enterprise field,and based on this lobby eth more visible and enterprise are more likely to embrace it.
Max: I don’t want to make a comment about ConsenSys.  However, we want to have a platform where everyone can contribute to. We will very likely have similar dev studios like this all over the world. I hope that our delegates will fund these efforts.


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November 04, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
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will the lisk raised be used to vote?
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November 04, 2016, 02:10:21 PM
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Thanks for your answers Smiley.

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November 04, 2016, 02:12:23 PM
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will the lisk raised be used to vote?

We have not made a formal decision on it, but haven't ruled it out either. We are more focused on other tasks atm.
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November 04, 2016, 02:13:26 PM
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will the lisk raised be used to vote?

While we agreed on holding Lisk long term we yet to make a decision about using the collected Lisk for voting.
The ARK team has a pretty unique internal dynamic. We are many and we always discuss options and won't make a decision until we reached a consensus on an issue. This is something that doesn't work with any group of people but worked for us really well in the last few months since we are working on ARK.

There are however many important and more pressing issues to decide on, Lisk voting is not a priority at the moment. Ask as in a month.

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November 04, 2016, 02:38:10 PM
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I'm looking forward
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November 04, 2016, 02:46:14 PM
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Who is Lisk escrow? Max or Oliver?

They don't want to make the Escrow.
And after some FUD from "The Pitbull" cannabanana, I'm not surprised.



Oh you back with your shill account causing a lot of FUD I see.
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November 04, 2016, 03:05:51 PM
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One last thing remains for me.

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project.

Next to that, and it has been said by others, he is acting on emotions. Big investors except a certain amount of professionalism.

You guys are getting our money and are trying to lead a serious project / business.

If he is a team member, and of great value, I would advise you guys to let him do his work, but don't let him be the one who talks on behalf of te team.

No personal attack against cannabanana, but just advising you as a potential investor.

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CrowdFunder
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November 04, 2016, 03:06:45 PM
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So let me get this straight :

- This ico is accepting any kinds of coins (more or less)
- Some team members act as if they are 6 years old (insulting even).
- They stated (I believe) that they have no plan to dump (possibly just related to lisk), but need cash (which mean , need to dump)
- They shit on lisk, while accepting lisk.

You have successfully managed to not have me touching this, whatever happen.

Good luck, and hope you won't scam too many people.
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November 04, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
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One last thing remains for me.

Is cannabanana a team member of Ark?

If yes, why is he being so negative of Max and the project on the LSK Ann on BTC? While you guys are putting trust in the project.

Next to that, and it has been said by others, he is acting on emotions. Big investors except a certain amount of professionalism.

You guys are getting our money and are trying to lead a serious project / business.

If he is a team member, and of great value, I would advise you guys to let him do his work, but don't let him be the one who talks on behalf of te team.

This is a personal opinion on max.  Not an organizational one.

If you know me, you'll know I'm never Sunshine and Lollipops when real shit is causing problems.

I'm not some money hungry asshole who will say anything for some dollar bills.

 I talk like an asshole but I'm one of the few people here in crypto you can count on 100% all the time.
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