[ANN] Wrapper. I2P Market. Zerocoin Source and Fourier Protocol

[wrapperdev]

wrapperproject.com

https://i.imgur.com/jqHLyKR.jpg
You can read the first version of our whitepaper here.

https://i.imgur.com/oX8OwvY.png

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Wrapper's implementation has two mining algorithms. Scrypt-n and Zcoin's implementation of lyra2.

The constants of the lyra2 algorithm are:
T=2, R=block_height and C=256 from block 500 to block 8192.
From 8192 block to infinity the constants will be change to T=2, R=8192 and C=256 to avoid memory issues.

The first 500 blocks are minable with a scrypt-n miner or with the in-wallet miner. After that you can keep mining from your wallet, or you can choose a pool and mine with ocminer's "cpuminer-xzc".

Pools

The following pools have listed WRP but are not working yet:

gflare.io

Minerhub

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http://coinexchangeio.github.io/slate/images/logo.png

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The ICO (Initial Coin Offer) of 10 Million WRP was hosted by c-cex.com.
The offer will lasted three weeks, with rewards for early investors. The price schedule was the following:

-First week (12/11/16 16:00 to 19/11/16 18:00): 1050 Satoshi/WRP (30% reward);

-Second week (19/11/16 18:00 to 26/11/16 18:00):  1200 Satoshi/WRP (20% reward);

-Third week (26/11/16 18:00 to 3/12/16 18:00):  1500 Satoshi/WRP (No reward).

All times are GMT +0.

53% of the ICO was sold. 47% of the 10 million WRP that were allocated for the ICO will be burned by C-Cex (4724022.3499 WRP).

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The Wrapper Team is building an I2P & TOR market that uses Wrapper as a transaction currency.
I2P: http://kyh5mfbv3464fnzaoa2ode3qpv6chptkq7i76axtjnmjskcdi5fq.b32.i2p/
TOR: http://mwy3ogagzse5cubq.onion/

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Read our FAQ to read more about wrapper.
You can also checkout our dev blog for the latest development updates, we do a weekly spending report which is posted there.

Please use this PGP key when communicating with the wrapper team:

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[moroseneng]

what is this? details information?

[wrapperdev]

what is this? details information?

More information will be added in the next days, there's already a FAQ and a "Tech" page in our website if you wish to know a bit more about what we are doing.

[BitPotus]

So ICO and it is specified that the identity of the team will not be revealed.....

[dianikusuma]

hi dev, i would reserve indonesian translation
thank you

[Peterjohn42]

Will there be an escrow used for ico? Anonymous might not be a bad thing if done correctly.

[wrapperdev]

Will there be an escrow used for ico? Anonymous might not be a bad thing if done correctly.

Yes, we are looking for an escrow at the moment (if someone wants to recommend one we would be very grateful).

[moroseneng]

Will there be an escrow used for ico? Anonymous might not be a bad thing if done correctly.

Yes, we are looking for an escrow at the moment (if someone wants to recommend one we would be very grateful).

Max Kordek

[ShooterXD]

Hi sir! I would like to reserve portuguese translation!

All the best to your project!

cya

[d-trix]

Will there be an escrow used for ico? Anonymous might not be a bad thing if done correctly.

Yes, we are looking for an escrow at the moment (if someone wants to recommend one we would be very grateful).

You should take a look a good list of recommended escrows in the following thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855778.0

[MoneyJ]

Interesting. But must provide details to be caught in attention.

[wrapperdev]

Interesting. But must provide details to be caught in attention.

Hey! Thank you for your interest.
Have you checked our tech page? It goes a bit deeper on how the fourier protocol is being developed.

http://wrapperproject.com/tech/

[notsofast]

Will be supporting this project. I was fortunate to have a short private conversation with someone on the dev team via Twitter. I was impressed with their assessment of the current (zerocash protocol) developments in the altcoin space and on this first look it seems they have the technological abilities to carry this project through.

Though it's an ICO, there's also a long-PoW mining component with linear-decay block rewards. I love that.

[Skatebird]

Following

Edit: ill translate English-French if needed !!

[labuan]

any escrow about ico?

[BTC Community]

waiting for your whitepaper and team info.

[kendedes]

waiting for zerocoin more information

[wrapperdev]

any escrow about ico?

Yes, ICO will have escrow. We are looking into it at the moment.

[Sasukeevil]

Still too less information about this coin.

[wrapperdev]

Still too less information about this coin.

There is a lot of information already in our webpage, on the following days we will be posting ICO dates, wallet and github, escrow details and a roadmap.

[warensuperb]

added more info please dev
maybe im interesting to join this project

[Sasukeevil]

Still too less information about this coin.

There is a lot of information already in our webpage, on the following days we will be posting ICO dates, wallet and github, escrow details and a roadmap.

Ok. So what's your coin distribution? Where's the white paper?
Who's behind it?

[wrapperdev]

Please take a look at the "Tech" and "FAQ" sections  in our website.
http://wrapperproject.com

I will copy this information to the thread later today.

[Sasukeevil]

Please take a look at the "Tech" and "FAQ" sections  in our website.
http://wrapperproject.com

I will copy this information to the thread later today.

Just noticed that the white paper will be available in December 2016 on the page.

You still need to add more details such as the total supply, and I still don't know who's in the team.

10 million coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Through the next 7 years 30 million more coins will be mined. The reward of these blocks will be 20-0.000005*block height.
After that there will be another 7 year period where 4 million coins will be mined at a constant rate of 2 coins for each block.
After these two 7 year periods wrapper will be mined at a constant value of 1 coin for each block forever.

[wrapperdev]

Please take a look at the "Tech" and "FAQ" sections  in our website.
http://wrapperproject.com

I will copy this information to the thread later today.

Just noticed that the white paper will be available in December 2016 on the page.

You still need to add more details such as the total supply, and I still don't know who's in the team.

10 million coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Through the next 7 years 30 million more coins will be mined. The reward of these blocks will be 20-0.000005*block height.
After that there will be another 7 year period where 4 million coins will be mined at a constant rate of 2 coins for each block.
After these two 7 year periods wrapper will be mined at a constant value of 1 coin for each block forever.

The supply in a given moment will depend of that moment. If you integrate the coin reward function from the moment the blockchain is born to infinity it will come out infinite but the rate at which coins are created slows down immensely 14 years from now (it will be one coin per block).

About the team identity (that's the first question answered on our FAQ by the way):

"Initially, and while we don’t hire anyone else, there are 3 people involved in wrapper. One main C++ developer, one designer and one developer that specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed."

[restless]

How will be these 30mln coins mined? (algo/distribution)?

[wrapperdev]

How will be these 30mln coins mined? (algo/distribution)?

Algo will most likely be lyra2 (the same as zerocoin). The mining distribution will be the following: 

"Through the next 7 years 30 million more coins will be mined. The reward of these blocks will be 20-(0.000005*block height).
After that there will be another 7 year period where 4 million coins will be mined at a constant rate of 2 coins for each block.
After these two 7 year periods wrapper will be mined at a constant value of 1 coin for each block forever."

That's a linear decaying reward for the first seven years, then a constant reward forever, first of 2 and then 1 coin.

[wrapperdev]

Announcement updated with information about the fourier protocol.

[dbt1033]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

[wrapperdev]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

https://i.imgur.com/FNRPV6o.png

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

[dbt1033]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

A gun manufacturer isn't blamed for the actions people take with its products.  That logic is severely flawed. 

[wrapperdev]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

https://i.imgur.com/FNRPV6o.png

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

A gun manufacturer isn't blamed for the actions people take with its products.  That logic is severely flawed. 

We completely agree but unfortunately we live in a post-Ross Ulbricht world and to a lot of people that logic might not be as flawed as it appears.

[dbt1033]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

A gun manufacturer isn't blamed for the actions people take with its products.  That logic is severely flawed. 

We completely agree but unfortunately we live in a post-Ross Ulbricht world and to a lot of people that logic might not be as flawed as it appears.

Ross Ulbricht went to jail for creating dark markets, facilitating the exchange of illegal substances, and a host of other criminal activities.

That wasn't on satoshi.  That was on Ulbricht.

I'm all for freedom, don't get me wrong.  But you cannot ask for people to give you money with no whitepaper, no product, and from an anonymous newbie acct.  That's just crazy. 

[wrapperdev]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

https://i.imgur.com/FNRPV6o.png

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

A gun manufacturer isn't blamed for the actions people take with its products.  That logic is severely flawed. 

We completely agree but unfortunately we live in a post-Ross Ulbricht world and to a lot of people that logic might not be as flawed as it appears.

Ross Ulbricht went to jail for creating dark markets, facilitating the exchange of illegal substances, and a host of other criminal activities.

That wasn't on satoshi.  That was on Ulbricht.

I'm all for freedom, don't get me wrong.  But you cannot ask for people to give you money with no whitepaper, no product, and from an anonymous newbie acct.  That's just crazy. 

The ICO didn't start yet and although you can already have a notion of where we are going with the fourier protocol you will be able to get a more in dept vision before it starts.

[dbt1033]

Cool.  A few concerns:  

In your OP, you state in extremely small text that your whitepaper will not be available until December 2016, yet you ask for ICO funding before the release...

You also say that you will not reveal your identity.  You have posted from a noobie acct.  

The other privacy projects: zcash, zcoin, komodo do not share these issues.  We know who the developers are.  They have whitepapers.  They are not asking for ICO money (except for komodo, but at least we have a whitepaper and know who the dev is).

You might not be, but you sure look like a scam if I've ever seen one.

We understand the concerns with the lack of identification from the team and we also understand how that can affect our funding. We still choose to keep the anonymity, a decision that will be mostly justified by what will happen after the protocol is implemented.
We also heard you on the whitepaper issue and are working on it.

A gun manufacturer isn't blamed for the actions people take with its products.  That logic is severely flawed. 

We completely agree but unfortunately we live in a post-Ross Ulbricht world and to a lot of people that logic might not be as flawed as it appears.

Ross Ulbricht went to jail for creating dark markets, facilitating the exchange of illegal substances, and a host of other criminal activities.

That wasn't on satoshi.  That was on Ulbricht.

I'm all for freedom, don't get me wrong.  But you cannot ask for people to give you money with no whitepaper, no product, and from an anonymous newbie acct.  That's just crazy. 

The ICO didn't start yet and although you can already have a notion of where we are going with the fourier protocol you will be able to get a more in dept vision before it starts.

Sure, I get a notion.  A "vision" isn't enough though.  That's like me starting a newbie account, creating a website, and asking people to give me money for SUPER-Zcash (like zcash, but WAY better).  I host an ICO during the zcash hype.  Then I say that I will produce a whitepaper to reveal my new tech to the world over a month after the ICO.

People ask me who I am?  Who the genius behind SUPER-Zcash is?  I tell them that it's so super secret, I cannot reveal who I am because I will go to jail.

Do you seriously not see how ridiculous that sounds?

[kombiMan]

seems interesting.... I'm holding zcoin abd komodo and will probably take part in the ico

[Solero]

I'm running as fast as I can from this *scam

[dbt1033]

http://whois.domaintools.com/wrapperproject.com

Registrant Name: Wrapper Development
Registrant Organization: Wrapper
Registrant Street: HEMINGFORD GREY
Registrant Street: 82 Front St
Registrant City: Hemingford
Registrant State/Province: Cambridgeshire
Registrant Postal Code: PE18 2JY
Registrant Country: UK
Registrant Phone: +44.7831504710

Thought you couldn't disclose your identity?  Gigs up.

[kombiMan]

Interesting to see that the only people talking trash about this project are the ones with heavy interest in other privacy coins ahaha. idk we will see, i'm waiting for the whitepaper

[btcdevil]

Hey, if their is any translation bounty then kindly reserve me for Hindi Translations for Indian Altcoin Board, AFter you post full information give me confirmation so that i can start the translation.

[Johnny-Bravo]

http://whois.domaintools.com/wrapperproject.com

Registrant Name: Wrapper Development
Registrant Organization: Wrapper
Registrant Street: HEMINGFORD GREY
Registrant Street: 82 Front St
Registrant City: Hemingford
Registrant State/Province: Cambridgeshire
Registrant Postal Code: PE18 2JY
Registrant Country: UK
Registrant Phone: +44.7831504710

Thought you couldn't disclose your identity?  Gigs up.

There is no such post code as PE18 2JY, there is no HEMINGFORD GREY in any post code beginning with PE18, and no 82 Front St in Cambridgeshire. The dev submitted a made up address when he registered that website. That address doesn't disclose his identity.

[kombiMan]

http://whois.domaintools.com/wrapperproject.com

Registrant Name: Wrapper Development
Registrant Organization: Wrapper
Registrant Street: HEMINGFORD GREY
Registrant Street: 82 Front St
Registrant City: Hemingford
Registrant State/Province: Cambridgeshire
Registrant Postal Code: PE18 2JY
Registrant Country: UK
Registrant Phone: +44.7831504710

Thought you couldn't disclose your identity?  Gigs up.

There is no such post code as PE18 2JY, there is no HEMINGFORD GREY in any post code beginning with PE18, and no 82 Front St in Cambridgeshire. The dev submitted a made up address when he registered that website. That address doesn't disclose his identity.

lol, I don't think the devs are stupid enough to make an entire project based on privacy and then disclose their home address

[dbt1033]

http://whois.domaintools.com/wrapperproject.com

Registrant Name: Wrapper Development
Registrant Organization: Wrapper
Registrant Street: HEMINGFORD GREY
Registrant Street: 82 Front St
Registrant City: Hemingford
Registrant State/Province: Cambridgeshire
Registrant Postal Code: PE18 2JY
Registrant Country: UK
Registrant Phone: +44.7831504710

Thought you couldn't disclose your identity?  Gigs up.

There is no such post code as PE18 2JY, there is no HEMINGFORD GREY in any post code beginning with PE18, and no 82 Front St in Cambridgeshire. The dev submitted a made up address when he registered that website. That address doesn't disclose his identity.

LMAO, another sockpuppet defending the scammers.  This is great.

[bit815792215]

http://whois.domaintools.com/wrapperproject.com

Registrant Name: Wrapper Development
Registrant Organization: Wrapper
Registrant Street: HEMINGFORD GREY
Registrant Street: 82 Front St
Registrant City: Hemingford
Registrant State/Province: Cambridgeshire
Registrant Postal Code: PE18 2JY
Registrant Country: UK
Registrant Phone: +44.7831504710

Thought you couldn't disclose your identity?  Gigs up.

There is no such post code as PE18 2JY, there is no HEMINGFORD GREY in any post code beginning with PE18, and no 82 Front St in Cambridgeshire. The dev submitted a made up address when he registered that website. That address doesn't disclose his identity.

LMAO, another sockpuppet defending the scammers.  This is great.

http://www.coindesk.com/appcoin-law-part-1-icos-the-right-way

[wrapperdev]

Hey everyone!

We understand and hear your concerns and are changing our plans a bit to meet with what the people seem to be asking for.

The ICO will only start when the whitepaper is out (this should take less than 2-3 weeks). When the ICO ends the chain will start and the first version of the Fourier Protocol library will be available on github (something analogous to "libzerocoin").
The Wrapper chain will fork sometime around New Year's (no exact date yet) to add the fourier protocol functionalities.

[Diplo]

Do you have a background in DSP?

[wrapperdev]

Do you have a background in DSP?

One of the team members has a background in signal processing yes, the idea of using DFT was his.

[vanarebane]

Looking good, reserve for bounties, do you have plan to add bounties?

[wrapperdev]

Looking good, reserve for bounties, do you have plan to add bounties?

At the moment one of our top priorities is to get some more developers on board after the ICO but I think we can get some translation and signature bounties running, yes!

[syahril]

i can't join ico here  http://wrapperproject.com/#

[BitPotus]

i can't join ico here  http://wrapperproject.com/#

because it's not fucking on yet.....

seriously, do you even read that this is a pre-annoucement....

fuck me

 

[wrapperdev]

i can't join ico here  http://wrapperproject.com/#

The ICO is not available yet so that link is dead. We are preparing a detailed whitepaper so investors can understand our tech better before investing. It should be ready in less than 2 weeks.

If you want to be informed and use twitter you can follow us at:  https://twitter.com/WrapperTeam

[ImnotOctopus]

Looking good, reserve for bounties, do you have plan to add bounties?

At the moment one of our top priorities is to get some more developers on board after the ICO but I think we can get some translation signature bounties running, yes!

i want to join in translation bounty.
Will watch this thread.

Thanks.

[ShooterXD]

Just reserve portuguese translation to me.

Thx and good luck

[AngelOfDarkness]

ICO and newbie account, when will this ever stop.

[rohitgarnaik]

will reserve for indian translation (hindi)

[thepo1m]

Can you provide a section for newsletter update on your site to update us on the development  and the ICO news.

[wrapperdev]

Can you provide a section for newsletter update on your site to update us on the development  and the ICO news.

Hey! I'll make sure we setup a newsletter section in our website. In the meanwhile you can follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/WrapperTeam?s=09

I can also give you a small update right now since we've been a bit silent. Our whitepaper is almost done and ready to go public. We are polishing some stuff and getting the latex for the mathematical stuff done.
We also have some news about the ICO. At first we were thinking about hosting it on our website and the code is already written actually, if you are curious you can take a look here: http://wrapperproject.com/ico/. We gave it some thought though and to try to be as transparebt as possible we are now hosting it at a relatively small exchange that's fully covered by swedish law called "novaexchange". It was one of the first exchanges to add zcoin so we're hoping we can also do well there.

Thankyou for your interest,
The wrapper team

PS: In our website there's a section that's supposed to provide a bigger insight at what we are doing. It's called the "development blog"

[tulipbubble]

ICO and newbie account, when will this ever stop.

This project seems legit, we need to ignore the op level if he is newbie, there are high rank op are purchased account, those are eraborate scams.

[CoinBreader]

waiting for updates! also watching this closely followed on twitter and everything...

[wrapperdev]

Hey everyone. Sorry for the time we kept you waiting but we can now move on with the project.

We have released the first version of our whitepaper, you can read it here. We are still waiting for it to be reviewed for an english speaking person but it shouldn't feel very rough around the edges.

Our ICO should start in less than 24 hours and will last three weeks. You can read a bit more about how we are gonna do it in our website's FAQ and in the OP.

We are also going to start tracking our weekly spending from day one and will present a report to investors every saturday starting today.
Oh, and the development blog is officially active, check it out in our website.

EDIT: If you have any doubts please express them here or through PM so we can add the answer to our FAQ.

[strasboug]

looks like another get-rich-quick ico... man you need to have a more professional looking ANN and website if you want a successful ICO

[wrapperdev]

looks like another get-rich-quick ico... man you need to have a more professional looking ANN and website if you want a successful ICO

Hey! We are working on our ANN but bitcointalk doesn't seem to allow image posting for new members.
If you have any suggestions about how we can improve our website please tell us. Remember that our website also works as a development blog!

[wrapperdev]

The ICO is now available here!

We also posted the first roadmap in our development blog. You can read it here.

[CryptoMaik]

Who are the people behind this project?

[wrapperdev]

Who are the people behind this project?

We have directly answered this question in our FAQ. Let me copy-paste it.

"Who are the people behind this project?

Three people make up the core team of Wrapper: a main C++ coder, a designer, and a developer who specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed at this stage."

[CryptoMaik]

Who are the people behind this project?

We have directly answered this question in our FAQ. Let me copy-paste it.

"Who are the people behind this project?

Three people make up the core team of Wrapper: a main C++ coder, a designer, and a developer who specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed at this stage."

  Nice answer.

We don't invest in projects whose core developers are unknown or been hidden for the public.

Good luck with your project. We are out...

[wrapperdev]

Who are the people behind this project?

We have directly answered this question in our FAQ. Let me copy-paste it.

"Who are the people behind this project?

Three people make up the core team of Wrapper: a main C++ coder, a designer, and a developer who specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed at this stage."

  Nice answer.

We don't invest in projects whose core developers are unknown or been hidden for the public.

Good luck with your project. We are out...

No problem, that is completely understandable but it's a choice we made from the begging and will stick with it although it might scare some investors off.
Although you're not investing you might still want to read our whitepaper though

[dpapaemc]

 

• algo/pool
• explorer

[wrapperdev]

  

• algo/pool
• explorer

The chain is not moving yet but since this is a zerocoin based source the algo will most likely be lyra2.

[Coming-from-Behind]

Will you start a test net up before the end of the ICO to prove you have a working wallet with all the Fourier Protocol features you promised? You say the chain will be started straight after the conclusion of the ICO, and that means you must already have a working wallet. If we could test that wallet works for ourselves you would get more investors in your ICO.

[wrapperdev]

Will you start a test net up before the end of the ICO to prove you have a working wallet with all the Fourier Protocol features you promised? You say the chain will be started straight after the conclusion of the ICO, and that means you must already have a working wallet. If we could test that wallet works for ourselves you would get more investors in your ICO.

Fourier will be pushed December 31rd just like stated here: http://wrapperproject.com/first-roadmap-is-here/, you can read our whitepaper to get a full in-depth view on why.
We are working to get the code on github (won't have a valid genesis code but everything else will be valid).

[wrapperdev]

As promised yesterday we are releasing this week's spendings report, we will be doing this every saturday.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 4.5209

Spendings:

First part of c-cex ICO fee: 2 BTC
Github Organizational: 0.03837 BTC
CloudOcean's server: 0.04263 BTC

Available BTC at the end of the week: 2.43988

[Mento]

As promised yesterday we are releasing this week's spendings report, we will be doing this every saturday.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 4.5209

Spendings:

First part of c-cex ICO fee: 2 BTC
Github Organizational: 0.03837 BTC
CloudOcean's server: 0.04263 BTC

Available BTC at the end of the week: 2.43988

Hmm... 4.5 BTC per week only. This is not the most successful outcome. I hope other steps will provide the team a greater flow of investment.

[wrapperdev]

As promised yesterday we are releasing this week's spendings report, we will be doing this every saturday.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 4.5209

Spendings:

First part of c-cex ICO fee: 2 BTC
Github Organizational: 0.03837 BTC
CloudOcean's server: 0.04263 BTC

Available BTC at the end of the week: 2.43988

Hmm... 4.5 BTC per week only. This is not the most successful outcome. I hope other steps will provide the team a greater flow of investment.

That's why we are doing this ICO. Beware that this 4.5 BTC are the leftovers of what the team chipped in to start the project.

EDIT: You can follow our dev blog by subscribing to our RSS feed available here: http://wrapperproject.com/feed/

[Mento]

As promised yesterday we are releasing this week's spendings report, we will be doing this every saturday.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 4.5209

Spendings:

First part of c-cex ICO fee: 2 BTC
Github Organizational: 0.03837 BTC
CloudOcean's server: 0.04263 BTC

Available BTC at the end of the week: 2.43988

Hmm... 4.5 BTC per week only. This is not the most successful outcome. I hope other steps will provide the team a greater flow of investment.

That's why we are doing this ICO. Beware that this 4.5 BTC are the leftovers of what the team chipped in to start the project.

EDIT: You can follow our dev blog by subscribing to our RSS feed available here: http://wrapperproject.com/feed/

Are you want compensate your previous costs? I thought ICO will bring you investment for the further development of the project.

[wrapperdev]

As promised yesterday we are releasing this week's spendings report, we will be doing this every saturday.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 4.5209

Spendings:

First part of c-cex ICO fee: 2 BTC
Github Organizational: 0.03837 BTC
CloudOcean's server: 0.04263 BTC

Available BTC at the end of the week: 2.43988

Hmm... 4.5 BTC per week only. This is not the most successful outcome. I hope other steps will provide the team a greater flow of investment.

That's why we are doing this ICO. Beware that this 4.5 BTC are the leftovers of what the team chipped in to start the project.

EDIT: You can follow our dev blog by subscribing to our RSS feed available here: http://wrapperproject.com/feed/

Are you want compensate your previous costs? I thought ICO will bring you investment for the further development of the project.

No, the previous costs will not be compensated by taking funds out of the ICO. We have some ideas on how to generate a steady income but that's still a bit further down the road. Right now the team is working on Wrapper as a second job and the ICO money will only serve to pay for outsourced work.

[valley365]

Who are the people behind this project?

We have directly answered this question in our FAQ. Let me copy-paste it.

"Who are the people behind this project?

Three people make up the core team of Wrapper: a main C++ coder, a designer, and a developer who specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed at this stage."

  Nice answer.

We don't invest in projects whose core developers are unknown or been hidden for the public.

Good luck with your project. We are out...

I agree with this. Anonymous developers in this case are very suspicious. Who can guarantee that you don't just take the fund and disappear? That's why I am also looking for real persons with credible backgrounds, and a credible company behind it.

[wrapperdev]

Who are the people behind this project?

We have directly answered this question in our FAQ. Let me copy-paste it.

"Who are the people behind this project?

Three people make up the core team of Wrapper: a main C++ coder, a designer, and a developer who specializes in the I2P overlay network.
Due to the project’s nature and concerns with its viability the identity of the team will not be revealed at this stage."

  Nice answer.

We don't invest in projects whose core developers are unknown or been hidden for the public.

Good luck with your project. We are out...

I agree with this. Anonymous developers in this case are very suspicious. Who can guarantee that you don't just take the fund and disappear? That's why I am also looking for real persons with credible backgrounds, and a credible company behind it.

In this case we are working with an escrow, meaning that a network WILL be delivered before the funds are released. Your concerns are completely valid though and we understand your positions.
If you are into crypto though please read our whitepaper and tell us what you think!

[wrapperdev]

[New blog post]

Wrapper and I2P. A good combination?

http://wrapperproject.com/wrapper-i2p-good-combination/

[BitPotus]

[New blog post]

Wrapper and I2P. A good combination?

http://wrapperproject.com/wrapper-i2p-good-combination/

"Wrapper’s team aims to create an I2P market using wrapper has a base currency.
The funds gathered from this market would fund wrapper’s development, and the transactions made in this market would create real demand for wrapper to be used as a mean to transfer value."

So you're implying that you will be opening a "Dark Market" that will use Wrapper as currency.

hmmmm.......so how many Wrappers for 1 gram of cocaine then?

 

[wrapperdev]

[New blog post]

Wrapper and I2P. A good combination?

http://wrapperproject.com/wrapper-i2p-good-combination/

"Wrapper’s team aims to create an I2P market using wrapper has a base currency.
The funds gathered from this market would fund wrapper’s development, and the transactions made in this market would create real demand for wrapper to be used as a mean to transfer value."

So you're implying that you will be opening a "Dark Market" that will use Wrapper as currency.

hmmmm.......so how many Wrappers for 1 gram of cocaine then?

 

The wrapper team takes no responsibility for what is sold on the market. We will simply build and provide a platform for free commerce.
This is how bitcoin started its expansion. We hope to replicate its success.

[wrapperdev]

New post in our development blog.

Something BIG

Wrapper was created with privacy in mind so it’s logical that use cases also involve private centered implementations. It’s with this in mind that today we are announcing something huge. Something that will shape the future of Wrapper like silkroad shaped the future of Bitcoin.
Today we are announcing WrapperRoad. An I2P web market that uses Wrapper as it’s main transaction transaction currency.
WrapperRoad is just like SilkRoad, only more secure because it uses Wrapper and the I2P network. This market enters the Wrapper ecosystem right at the beginning of its lifetime, proving a mean for WRA to gain value as a token used in real life exchanges instead of it being just a speculative vehicle.
 
Why not TOR?

Tor is, as story has shown us, very vulnerable. This makes it not ideal for the type of implementation we are thinking about.
We are studying TOR implementations and it might happen. Not in the near future though.
 
What now?

At the moment the market is completely empty. We will be starting the process of getting vendors on board next week but are only aiming to open the first version of the market in 2017 when the Fourier Protocol is stable and the Wrapper blockchain proves itself as reliable.
If you have some experience with I2P you can check the market here:
http://kyh5mfbv3464fnzaoa2ode3qpv6chptkq7i76axtjnmjskcdi5fq.b32.i2p/
 
PS: The Wrapper team does not take any kind of responsibility for the goods exchanged on WrapperRoad. We advice every user to respect the laws of his corresponding country.

[Odd Thomas]

Today we are announcing WrapperRoad. An I2P web market that uses Wrapper as it’s main transaction transaction currency.

You now have my full and undivided attention.

[Wicked Sick]

so is like silk road?

[BTC Community]

maybe we need  more careful about this project . and we need more info especial public identity  of team.

[wrapperdev]

so is like silk road?

This is just one of many applications wrapper might have.  And yes it's like Silk Road but it's on I2P and that makes it much more safe.

[kombiMan]

was waiting for news like this before semding my btc to ccex. Hope this pumps like zclassic since its also zcoin source

[wrapperdev]

Hey everyone. We just created a slack team with the goal of answering investors questions and start building a community around this project. Drop us a line if you want an invite!

[wrapperdev]

Exciting news for traders!

We've know this for quite a while but decided to wait to share it at the appropriate time.
novaexchange.com will be supporting Wrapper as soon as the ICO ends!
This exchange was the first one to add zerocoin so they have some experience with zerocoin based sources.

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 28.5% sold.

We are still looking for the first sellers for WrapperRoad. Also, we are trying to build a small slack community on wrapperproject.slack.com.

If you want to sell on WrapperRoad and/or want an invite for our slack please PM us.

[dpapaemc]

   My apologies if this inquiry had already been addressed, but what is (seller) WrapperRoad?

[wrapperdev]

   My apologies if this inquiry had already been addressed, but what is (seller) WrapperRoad?

No problem, we are here to answer your questions. WrapperRoad is an I2P market we announced yesterday.

You can read the announcement here: http://wrapperproject.com/wrapperroad-i2p-market/

Basically it's like SilkRoad but for Wrapper.
There are some very interesting details about WrapperRoad that we haven't announced yet so stay tuned.

[dpapaemc]

   So the marketplace will be a site with a listing of vendors that accept WrapperCoin? Will you be adding any kind of payment system like CoinPayments?

[wrapperdev]

   So the marketplace will be a site with a listing of vendors that accept WrapperCoin? Will you be adding any kind of payment system like CoinPayments?

The website will be something like ebay where sellers create accounts and list their products. The only payment system will be Wrapper.

[dpapaemc]

   So the marketplace will be a site with a listing of vendors that accept WrapperCoin? Will you be adding any kind of payment system like CoinPayments?

The website will be something like ebay where sellers create accounts and list their products. The only payment system will be Wrapper.

  Ohh, nice. That's a unique approach. I am an owner of an online t-shirt store, and will be keeping an eye on your progress so that I can offer up some products on your service.

[alt213]

it seem there is a POW phase, why you didnt mentioned that in thread?

http://wrapperproject.com/faq/

Code:

what is the distribution model for wrapper?
10 million WRA coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Throughout the next seven years, 30 million additional coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work. After block 2, the block reward decays gradually and linearly, according to the equation: [20 – (0.000005)*(block height)].
After that there will be another seven-year period where 4 million coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant rate of 2 coins per block.
After these two seven-year periods, wrapper will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant value of 1 coin for each block, forever.

[wrapperdev]

it seem there is a POW phase, why you didnt mentioned that in thread?

http://wrapperproject.com/faq/

Code:

what is the distribution model for wrapper?
10 million WRA coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Throughout the next seven years, 30 million additional coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work. After block 2, the block reward decays gradually and linearly, according to the equation: [20 – (0.000005)*(block height)].
After that there will be another seven-year period where 4 million coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant rate of 2 coins per block.
After these two seven-year periods, wrapper will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant value of 1 coin for each block, forever.

We had the entire FAQ in the thread but it was a bit big and people didn't read it all. It seemed like most people were visiting the website like you and getting to know the project before investing, understanding that the coin is POW.

Some examples:

(...)
Though it's an ICO, there's also a long-PoW mining component with linear-decay block rewards. I love that.

Please take a look at the "Tech" and "FAQ" sections  in our website.
http://wrapperproject.com

I will copy this information to the thread later today.

Just noticed that the white paper will be available in December 2016 on the page.

You still need to add more details such as the total supply, and I still don't know who's in the team.

10 million coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Through the next 7 years 30 million more coins will be mined. The reward of these blocks will be 20-0.000005*block height.
After that there will be another 7 year period where 4 million coins will be mined at a constant rate of 2 coins for each block.
After these two 7 year periods wrapper will be mined at a constant value of 1 coin for each block forever.

How will be these 30mln coins mined? (algo/distribution)?

How will be these 30mln coins mined? (algo/distribution)?

Algo will most likely be lyra2 (the same as zerocoin). The mining distribution will be the following: 

"Through the next 7 years 30 million more coins will be mined. The reward of these blocks will be 20-(0.000005*block height).
After that there will be another 7 year period where 4 million coins will be mined at a constant rate of 2 coins for each block.
After these two 7 year periods wrapper will be mined at a constant value of 1 coin for each block forever."

That's a linear decaying reward for the first seven years, then a constant reward forever, first of 2 and then 1 coin.

Anyways, we will add it to the OP.

[wrapperdev]

We just published a new announcement in our development blog, "WrapperRoad fees and what to do with them". http://wrapperproject.com/wrapperroad-fees-what-to-do-with-them/

In this last couple of days the biggest discussion in the wrapper team chat has been around the topic of how we are going to use the fees collected from WrapperRoad.
 
We have now reached an agreement and would like to share it with our investors and community.
 
The first thing we agreed on is that WrapperRoad will not, at least in its first months, exclusively accept Wrapper as the transaction currency. Bitcoin will also be accepted but we will recommend the use of wrapper as a mean of providing extra privacy. Paying with wrapper will also provide a discount over the base price of a product. The reason why we choose to do this is that we want to make it as easy as possible for users to switch from the current markets to WrapperRoad without a big hassle.
We have also agreed on how we are using the fees we collect from the market. They will be used in the following way:

Fees for payments made in Bitcoin:

-60% to buy WRA directly from the open market and store it in the development fund.
-40% to the development team.

Fees for payment made in Wrapper:

-50% to store in the development fund.
-50% to the development team.
 
The point of this fee distribution is to give back to the system while also contributing to the work of the development team.


Thank you for your time,
The Wrapper Team

[Juantzy]

Mr.newie ,plz step away,this market is flooded with all kinds of ICOs.

[alt213]

We had the entire FAQ in the thread but it was a bit big and people didn't read it all. It seemed like most people were visiting the website like you and getting to know the project before investing, understanding that the coin is POW.

anyway , bought few ico coins, lets hope only this project isnt another scam.

Question:
ICO funds will be released by c-cex before or after wrapper mainnet network successful launch.

[wrapperdev]

We had the entire FAQ in the thread but it was a bit big and people didn't read it all. It seemed like most people were visiting the website like you and getting to know the project before investing, understanding that the coin is POW.

anyway , bought few ico coins, lets hope only this project isnt another scam.

Question:
ICO funds will be released by c-cex before or after wrapper mainnet network successful launch.

Funds will only be released after Wrapper's successful launch and after c-cex verifies there are no problems with the network.

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 34% sold.

Available at: https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[Paycoinzzz]

Unsold will all be burned right?

[wrapperdev]

Unsold will all be burned right?

Yes. All unsold coins will be burned.

[wrapperdev]

Hey everyone! Today we have very good news to share.

We are launching WrapperRoad, the TOR version. This means people will be able to access WrapperRoad via I2P and via the TOR network.
You can check it out here: http://mwy3ogagzse5cubq.onion/

This is just the beggining, more updates will soon follow. Stay tuned!

Note: The website will only start working after the chain is launched and it's proven to be stable. If you want to become a seller please contact us!

[Paycoinzzz]

This could be good news will see when site live.

[wrapperdev]

This could be good news will see when site live.

The site is already live (I2P and TOR working). It justs needs some sellers and some design work.

[wrapperdev]

1 more day until the first price increase. The early investor bonus will be reduced from 30% to 20%.

[wrapperdev]

In the next following days we will be announcing something really cool that will be featured in our wallet! Stay tuned.

[bag holder]

The c-cex ICO rules recommend that coin developers provide Proof of Developer, Coinsource Trust Index rating, or a short video where coin developers introduce themselves. C-cex also states it can't vouch for coin developers because of scams and other negative events.

Will the wrapper devs be providing Proof of Developer, Trust Index rating, or a short video introducing themselves?

https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

ICO rules

9 Due to recent scams and other negative events, C-CEX can no longer vouch for coin developers. There is no way to verify a developer's identity or to prosecute an individual or team that abandons the projects or otherwise does not adhere to the stated ICO/coin terms without having a substantial legal infrastructure which we can not provide.

10 If the coin developers can not provide a POD (Proof of Developer) or Coinsource Trust Index rating, C-CEX will recommend the provision of a short video where coin developers introduce themselves and their coin and explain the basic concepts behind the coin and why they believe it can be successful.

[wrapperdev]

The c-cex ICO rules recommend that coin developers provide Proof of Developer, Coinsource Trust Index rating, or a short video where coin developers introduce themselves. C-cex also states it can't vouch for coin developers because of scams and other negative events.

Will the wrapper devs be providing Proof of Developer, Trust Index rating, or a short video introducing themselves?

https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

ICO rules

9 Due to recent scams and other negative events, C-CEX can no longer vouch for coin developers. There is no way to verify a developer's identity or to prosecute an individual or team that abandons the projects or otherwise does not adhere to the stated ICO/coin terms without having a substantial legal infrastructure which we can not provide.

10 If the coin developers can not provide a POD (Proof of Developer) or Coinsource Trust Index rating, C-CEX will recommend the provision of a short video where coin developers introduce themselves and their coin and explain the basic concepts behind the coin and why they believe it can be successful.

We are working in getting an interview going where we answer questions and let people know a bit more about the developer team since this seems to be very important for investors. Inthe meanwhile, if you are looking to invest, please read our whitepaper do you can understand what our tech and ideas are about and what the team specialises in (signal processing).

[wrapperdev]

Only 9 more hours until the first price increase of our ICO!
https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[dpapaemc]

 Want to invest, as I often do with these kind of new projects, but not without a couple of the basics being covered first like:

• working chain
• source code (how hard is the to push to Git)
• dev. transparency (we don't know who you are)

   For those reasons, I'm out...(all of the whitepapers, theory, concept and promises in the world can't replace the basic proof of a working coin and team).

[alt213]

 Want to invest, as I often do with these kind of new projects, but not without a couple of the basics being covered first like:

• working chain
• source code (how hard is the to push to Git)
• dev. transparency (we don't know who you are)

   For those reasons, I'm out...(all of the whitepapers, theory, concept and promises in the world can't replace the basic proof of a working coin and team).

yep, nothing working (except a website ) , atleast git with repository to allow investors track the progression of wrapper project.

[wrapperdev]

 Want to invest, as I often do with these kind of new projects, but not without a couple of the basics being covered first like:

• working chain
• source code (how hard is the to push to Git)
• dev. transparency (we don't know who you are)

   For those reasons, I'm out...(all of the whitepapers, theory, concept and promises in the world can't replace the basic proof of a working coin and team).

The blockchain will only start when the ICO is over. We will be pushing the git without a woking genesis block same days before that.
Please keep in mind that the ICO funds are only released after the dev team proves to deliver a working blockchain.

[wrapperdev]

10 more minutes until the first price increase happens!
https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

Edit: Price increase will happen at anytime now. Just waiting for c-cez to unlock the ICO account so we can make the changes.

[wrapperdev]

Here's this week's spending report.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 2.43988
 
Spendings:
Vindyne8 Marketing fee: 2 BTC
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 0.37189

[Selsonblue]

Best way to get a slack invite? Send me a PM if u need email

[Selsonblue]

Here's this week's spending report.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 2.43988
 
Spendings:
Vindyne8 Marketing fee: 2 BTC
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 0.37189

Transparency +1

   Keep it up

[wrapperdev]

Best way to get a slack invite? Send me a PM if u need email

Just PM us your email. We'll get a website going to make it easier.

[wrapperdev]

Best way to get a slack invite? Send me a PM if u need email

Just PM us your email. We'll get a website going to make it easier.

Or just use this: https://wrapperslack.herokuapp.com/

[wrapperdev]

Price was now updated to the second price level - 1200 Satoshi/WRP.

[Skatebird]

ICO looks good so far !!

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 41% sold.

The next and last price increase will happen in 7 days.

[Mark02]

Update on our ICO: 41% sold.

The next and last price increase will happen in 7 days.

Just bought an amount of 0.2 Bitcoin. I am hoping for the success of this coin. I think developers had a great plan about the coin and All of us Investors will benefit so don't be afraid to invest. Great opportunities are coming. Grab the opportunity while it is there, or regret later

[wrapperdev]

We stated this in our slack but since not every investor is there we decided to post it here as well.
As seen in our last spending report we spent 2 BTC in vyndine8's marketing services, we won't do that this week and are looking for another ways of promoting the project and its ICO.
We will try to keep tweeting regularly and strengthen or bitcointalk presence.

[kombiMan]

looking reallyz good. the twitter hype from the big guys is amazzzing and ico selling steady. im glad i bought at 1050

[arielbit]

Here is an example of an ICO that  burned investors..

Anon dev, roadmap, website, and promises...WARP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329494.0

for me ICO should start in January or February, dev should finish some things first before i get convinced.

good luck guys 

[wrapperdev]

Here is an example of an ICO that  burned investors..

Anon dev, roadmap, website, and promises...WARP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329494.0

for me ICO should start in January or February, dev should finish some things first before i get convinced.

good luck guys  

Your suggestion is that we stop the ongoing ICO that already sold almost half of the 10 million coins and hang until February with 0.4 BTC and a big bill of servers (hosting the markets, nodes and website) and outsourced dev work (on the protocol) to pay every month?

[arielbit]

Here is an example of an ICO that  burned investors..

Anon dev, roadmap, website, and promises...WARP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329494.0

for me ICO should start in January or February, dev should finish some things first before i get convinced.

good luck guys  

Your suggestion is that we stop the ongoing ICO that already sold almost half of the 10 million coins and hang until February with 0.4 BTC and a big bill of servers (hosting the markets, nodes and website) and outsourced dev work (on the protocol) to pay every month?

i came late here, ico already started so.. i'm just saying good luck.

But generally i prefer if something has been done already, that can boost ico prices and confidence too.

[MbakNarti]

How much total coin supply of Wrapper?

[wrapperdev]

How much total coin supply of Wrapper?

Distribution Model

10 million WRP coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Throughout the next seven years, 30 million additional coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work. After block 2, the block reward decays gradually and linearly, according to the equation: [20 – (0.000005)*(block height)].
After that there will be another seven-year period where 4 million coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant rate of 2 coins per block.
After these two seven-year periods, wrapper will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant value of 1 coin for each block, forever.

[alt213]

How much total coin supply of Wrapper?

Distribution Model

10 million WRP coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Throughout the next seven years, 30 million additional coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work. After block 2, the block reward decays gradually and linearly, according to the equation: [20 – (0.000005)*(block height)].
After that there will be another seven-year period where 4 million coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant rate of 2 coins per block.
After these two seven-yea

copy/past from thread.

[wrapperdev]

How much total coin supply of Wrapper?

Distribution Model

10 million WRP coins will be mined on block 2 and distributed in our Initial Coin Offer (ICO).
Throughout the next seven years, 30 million additional coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work. After block 2, the block reward decays gradually and linearly, according to the equation: [20 – (0.000005)*(block height)].
After that there will be another seven-year period where 4 million coins will be mined via Proof-of-Work at a constant rate of 2 coins per block.
After these two seven-yea

copy/past from thread.

I think that was the answer MbakNarti wanted though

[alt213]

I think that was the answer MbakNarti wanted though

everytime all your answers are almost copy/past, why dont you try to use your own style in writing to answer investors and BCT members questions, also to be honest the copy/past gives the impression that you dont know much thing in programming.

[wrapperdev]

I think that was the answer MbakNarti wanted though

everytime all your answers are almost copy/past, why dont you try to use your own style in writing to answer investors and BCT members questions, also to be honest the copy/past gives the impression that you dont know much thing in programming.

If we've written something before why should I go over it and reformulate when I have already an understandable explanation in the OP?
Why does copy pasting have to do with our programming skills?
I'm not really getting what you want to transmit here.

[alt213]

If we've written something before why should I go over it and reformulate when I have already an understandable explanation in the OP?
Why does copy pasting have to do with our programming skills?
I'm not really getting what you want to transmit here.

OK, the problem is you are anon dev + asking for 100BTC ico + no one know if you are real Dev with programming skills (put yourself in the place of investors) + all the copy/past answers.
Anyway i got the msg, no more posting in this thread and good luck.

[DeadBirdzz]

Here is an example of an ICO that  burned investors..

Anon dev, roadmap, website, and promises...WARP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329494.0

for me ICO should start in January or February, dev should finish some things first before i get convinced.

good luck guys  

Your suggestion is that we stop the ongoing ICO that already sold almost half of the 10 million coins and hang until February with 0.4 BTC and a big bill of servers (hosting the markets, nodes and website) and outsourced dev work (on the protocol) to pay every month?

For that reason, I am out.

 

[wrapperdev]

Here is an example of an ICO that  burned investors..

Anon dev, roadmap, website, and promises...WARP

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1329494.0

for me ICO should start in January or February, dev should finish some things first before i get convinced.

good luck guys  

Your suggestion is that we stop the ongoing ICO that already sold almost half of the 10 million coins and hang until February with 0.4 BTC and a big bill of servers (hosting the markets, nodes and website) and outsourced dev work (on the protocol) to pay every month?

For that reason, I am out.

 

We can't are just three people and one of us doesn't code so it's that in a project with this dimensions we might need to get some outside help. We are looking to get one more dev after the ICO though!

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 44% sold.

5 more days until the next price increase.

[Mark02]

Update on our ICO: 44% sold.

5 more days until the next price increase.

ICO running well, I am sure it will become a successful one. Developers are doing their best effort to make this coin be well- known. Although some are not trusting this coin, I am putting all mu trust because developers are in touch with us and lets see what this coin can do after the ICO will finish.

Grab now while the price was not that high, so it will be a win-win for both of us.

[Franky2010]

Keeping watch this project, still time make some ICO investment. 

[wrapperdev]

Want an invite to our Slack? Get it here: https://wrapperslack.herokuapp.com/

[iotacampaign]

no bounty for your ICO campaign

[wrapperdev]

no bounty for your ICO campaign

What do you mean?

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 45% sold.

4 more days until the next price increase.

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 45% sold.

3 more days until the next price increase.

The next price increase will be from 1200 satoshis (current price) to 1500 satoshi. The previous and first price increase was from 1050 to 1200 satoshi.

[wrapperdev]

Zerocoin Protocol working and chain moving nicely. Looking forward to get miners on board when our ICO ends!

[Franky2010]

Thanks for update. 

[coinalt]

does ccex providing escrow services for this ico? if yes, what are the refund terms?

[wrapperdev]

does ccex providing escrow services for this ico? if yes, what are the refund terms?

There you go: https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 47.5% sold.

The next and last price increase will happen tomorrow.

https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 51% sold.

The next and last price increase will happen in 24 hours.

https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

We also have a nice update for miners, http://minerhub.io/, are confirmed to join us for launch. We hope we can get the attention of other pools as well.

[restless]

too bad there are no bounties

[Mark02]

Update on our ICO: 51% sold.

The next and last price increase will happen in 24 hours.

https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

We also have a nice update for miners, http://minerhub.io/, are confirmed to join us for launch. We hope we can get the attention of other pools as well.

Wow ! Great update. I can see that the ICO is running well. Im always keeping an eye on how's the ICO going and as what I am seeing. This coin has a future. Even though they do not provide a bounty in introducing the coin. I can see that it is making a name now. Well Great Job guys

[wrapperdev]

6 more hours until our last price increase!

https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[wrapperdev]

One more hour until the last price increase. 1200 satoshi -> 1500 satoshi.

Let's hope c-cex are ready to change it at 6PM GMT this time.

[wrapperdev]

Our ICO price was updated and it's now 1500 satoshis. We are now entering the last week of our ICO.

[Mark02]

Our ICO price was updated and it's now 1500 satoshis. We are now entering the last week of our ICO.

I can see that it's price increased. Well I am hoping for the success of this coin. Since the developers has many great plans for this coin. ICO is working great and only a week is remaining in their ICO and we are all excited on what this coin can bring. Both for the developers and the investors. If you join their slack. You can see their ideas, plans and Promotions they are doing to promote this coin and to bring its best to compete in the market.

[imjustsayintho]

I'm looking to mine after the ICO.  Will details follow shortly?

[wrapperdev]

I'm looking to mine after the ICO.  Will details follow shortly?

Yes. We will probably get the blockchain running a little before the ICO ends so people can move their coins as soon as the markets start moving. More details will be given this week.

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 51.5% sold.

6 more days until the ICO ends.

[wrapperdev]

Last week's spending report is now available.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 0.37189
 
Spendings:
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 0.3039

[Skatebird]

Last week's spending report is now available.

Available BTC at the start of the week: 0.37189
 
Spendings:
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 0.3039

Good job dev so far

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 52% sold.

5 more days until the ICO ends.

[Mark02]

Update on our ICO: 52% sold.

5 more days until the ICO ends.

Great, I was waiting for that to finish and I think the developers will then soon post another update after that happens, I think I see roadmap in their slack but I will not post here without their permission. Hmf? As what I've seen in that RoadMap. They will do great in December and at the start of New Year. Yeah ! Im really excited to that. And I'm happy that I am one of the investor in this ICO. Good Luck Guys

[wrapperdev]

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

[bag holder]

The c-cex ICO rules recommend that coin developers provide Proof of Developer, Coinsource Trust Index rating, or a short video where coin developers introduce themselves. C-cex also states it can't vouch for coin developers because of scams and other negative events.

Will the wrapper devs be providing Proof of Developer, Trust Index rating, or a short video introducing themselves?

https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

ICO rules

9 Due to recent scams and other negative events, C-CEX can no longer vouch for coin developers. There is no way to verify a developer's identity or to prosecute an individual or team that abandons the projects or otherwise does not adhere to the stated ICO/coin terms without having a substantial legal infrastructure which we can not provide.

10 If the coin developers can not provide a POD (Proof of Developer) or Coinsource Trust Index rating, C-CEX will recommend the provision of a short video where coin developers introduce themselves and their coin and explain the basic concepts behind the coin and why they believe it can be successful.

We are working in getting an interview going where we answer questions and let people know a bit more about the developer team since this seems to be very important for investors.

Is there any update on your work to produce a short video introducing yourselves and your coin?

You will make more from your ICO if you produce that video because few investors trust anonymous devs.

[wrapperdev]

The c-cex ICO rules recommend that coin developers provide Proof of Developer, Coinsource Trust Index rating, or a short video where coin developers introduce themselves. C-cex also states it can't vouch for coin developers because of scams and other negative events.

Will the wrapper devs be providing Proof of Developer, Trust Index rating, or a short video introducing themselves?

https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

ICO rules

9 Due to recent scams and other negative events, C-CEX can no longer vouch for coin developers. There is no way to verify a developer's identity or to prosecute an individual or team that abandons the projects or otherwise does not adhere to the stated ICO/coin terms without having a substantial legal infrastructure which we can not provide.

10 If the coin developers can not provide a POD (Proof of Developer) or Coinsource Trust Index rating, C-CEX will recommend the provision of a short video where coin developers introduce themselves and their coin and explain the basic concepts behind the coin and why they believe it can be successful.

We are working in getting an interview going where we answer questions and let people know a bit more about the developer team since this seems to be very important for investors.

Is there any update on your work to produce a short video introducing yourselves and your coin?

You will make more from your ICO if you produce that video because few investors trust anonymous devs.

We made contact with a crypto related podcast and if everything goes well we should be on soon. We won't be launching a video and it was never stated anywhere we would do it.

[Mesterlovesz1974]

Its a bit strange, that you do not want to make a quick video of yourself explaining your project, but well, who knows. But, this is a more important question, is there any pool for your coin? It is tuesday and you want to start in friday!

[Franky2010]

Patience here guys, this dev is very active and is just a few days, till we see more about, where is this project going on. 

[wrapperdev]

Its a bit strange, that you do not want to make a quick video of yourself explaining your project, but well, who knows. But, this is a more important question, is there any pool for your coin? It is tuesday and you want to start in friday!

Hey!

One of the pools will be Minerhub. We've been talking to them and they confirmed they will be with us in this tweet. We are still waiting for another pool to publicly announce they will host Wrapper.

[wrapperdev]

Update on our ICO: 53% sold.

3 more days until the ICO ends.

[onnz423]

Hello everyone! Just wanted to inform you that, shortly after the source get released i will start working on pool too. I will keep you updated

[Coryvmcs1]

We will be launching the pool on Minerhub.io we are currently in last the testing phase and should be ready for the release date for miners.

If you would like to pre register on minerhub.io to support the project please feel free to do so and any questions can be posted in our boards.

http://minerhub.io/forum/announcements/wrapper-mining-pool/

[ChPan]

where can  find wrapper wallet?
any link available?

[wrapperdev]

We will be launching the pool on Minerhub.io we are currently in last the testing phase and should be ready for the release date for miners.

If you would like to pre register on minerhub.io to support the project please feel free to do so and any questions can be posted in our boards.

http://minerhub.io/forum/announcements/wrapper-mining-pool/

Added to the OP.

where can  find wrapper wallet?
any link available?

Wallets will be available this friday.

[ocminer]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

[wrapperdev]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

[ocminer]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

[wrapperdev]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

[ocminer]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

Ah okay.

Well I might add a pool at launch time then... Lets see how this turns out


btw choosing C-Cex as ICO platform isn't the best idea probably..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680580

[wrapperdev]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

Ah okay.

Well I might add a pool at launch time then... Lets see how this turns out


btw choosing C-Cex as ICO platform isn't the best idea probably..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680580

Before deciding to go with c-cex we were almost choosing novaexchange but they had some legal problems and we were forced to find an alternative.

Awesome to have you with us!

[ocminer]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

Ah okay.

Well I might add a pool at launch time then... Lets see how this turns out


btw choosing C-Cex as ICO platform isn't the best idea probably..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680580

Before deciding to go with c-cex we were almost choosing novaexchange but they had some legal problems and we were forced to find an alternative.

Awesome to have you with us!

I didn't they I'm with you already, I'll look at it after launch

Nova has legal probs ? hmm .. Had no info about that

[Fidel007]

C-Cex has held so many scam ICOs.....

[wrapperdev]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

Ah okay.

Well I might add a pool at launch time then... Lets see how this turns out


btw choosing C-Cex as ICO platform isn't the best idea probably..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680580

Before deciding to go with c-cex we were almost choosing novaexchange but they had some legal problems and we were forced to find an alternative.

Awesome to have you with us!

I didn't they I'm with you already, I'll look at it after launch

Nova has legal probs ? hmm .. Had no info about that

You'd have to speak to them to get some more details.

[wrapperdev]

2 more days until our ICO ends!

53% sold.

[wrapperdev]

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

As promised we are giving exact hours for the blockchain launch today.

The launch will happen at these exact times:

London, United Kingdom    Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 1:00 GMT    
Beijing, China                  Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 9:00 CST    
Los Angeles, USA             Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:00 PST    
New York, USA                Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 20:00 EST    
Moscow, Russia               Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 4:00 MSK    

[Pyramusx]

Can someone hook a brotha up with a CPU miner that would work for this coin?

[Coryvmcs1]

Can someone hook a brotha up with a CPU miner that would work for this coin?

https://github.com/tpruvot/cpuminer-multi

[Pyramusx]

Can someone hook a brotha up with a CPU miner that would work for this coin?

https://github.com/tpruvot/cpuminer-multi

Thanks!

[termion]

I was expecting source code to be released a few days before launch as you've stated

Hey! The source should be released one day before the ICO ends. That would be on friday 15:00 GMT+0

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

Ah, then I misinterpreted some testing that was going on.. I thought the source was available (for them) already.

No you didn't, the guys at minerhub.io asked us if they could test out the source and we told them the algo we are gonna run on (lyra2) and what our source would be based on (the zerocoin source) although that was already publicly available.. They've been on slack with us and we also have been helping them technically so they are ready for launch (it's their first zerocoin based source).

Ah okay.

Well I might add a pool at launch time then... Lets see how this turns out


btw choosing C-Cex as ICO platform isn't the best idea probably..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680580

Before deciding to go with c-cex we were almost choosing novaexchange but they had some legal problems and we were forced to find an alternative.

Awesome to have you with us!

Maybe, ICO on liqui.io ? Round made very succefull ICO... 12 satoshi now 200 ... You may also made ico on liqui - for example, 100 BTC on 10 satoshi ...

[Mark02]

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

As promised we are giving exact hours for the blockchain launch today.

The launch will happen at these exact times:

London, United Kingdom    Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 1:00 GMT    
Beijing, China                  Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 9:00 CST    
Los Angeles, USA             Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:00 PST    
New York, USA                Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 20:00 EST    
Moscow, Russia               Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 4:00 MSK    

Great. Please can yoy tell the exact time in launching in the Philippines? Thanks guys. Realy excited kn what WRP can bring.

[wrapperdev]

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

As promised we are giving exact hours for the blockchain launch today.

The launch will happen at these exact times:

London, United Kingdom    Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 1:00 GMT    
Beijing, China                  Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 9:00 CST    
Los Angeles, USA             Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:00 PST    
New York, USA                Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 20:00 EST    
Moscow, Russia               Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 4:00 MSK    

Great. Please can yoy tell the exact time in launching in the Philippines? Thanks guys. Realy excited kn what WRP can bring.

9AM Fillipino time.

[imjustsayintho]

We decidided to start the wrapper blockchain one day before the ICO ends. This means our blockchain will start moving this Friday. Exact hours will be given Thursday.

As promised we are giving exact hours for the blockchain launch today.

The launch will happen at these exact times:

London, United Kingdom    Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 1:00 GMT    
Beijing, China                  Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 9:00 CST    
Los Angeles, USA             Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:00 PST    
New York, USA                Thursday, 1 Dec 2016 at 20:00 EST    
Moscow, Russia               Friday, 2 Dec 2016 at 4:00 MSK    

Great. Please can yoy tell the exact time in launching in the Philippines? Thanks guys. Realy excited kn what WRP can bring.

Try http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/

[wrapperdev]

Github: https://github.com/wrapperproject/wrapper

Windows wallet: http://wrapperproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/wrapper-qt.zip

You can mine from the in-wallet miner starting now, pools will be available soon.

First 250 blocks are low reward (1 WRP) to avoid instamine, the algo will start at scrypt-n and change to a custom implementation of LYRA2 at block 500. This implementation is exactly the same as ZCoin's and it was deliberately coded that way so you can use OCMiner's CPUMiner-Multi fork available here: https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc.

Virustotal Scan of the QT wallet: https://www.virustotal.com/file/6ee9ffcf35fb1c3c6f454ecb50c55f6ba5612f19420f7652d6398a0397fb5386/analysis/1480637348/

[wrapperdev]

Someone on our Slack runned a Virustotal on the .zip (we did on the .exe) and got a warning for something called "artemis". We are on it.

[wrapperdev]

Someone on our Slack runned a Virustotal on the .zip (we did on the .exe) and got a warning for something called "artemis". We are on it.

It was a false alarm as expected.

[notsofast]

{
"blocks" : 50,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00247194,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 1633,
"networkhashps" : 248,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

[methylminer]

Congrats on launch..at block 50 already

[Coryvmcs1]

Pool is up bear with me as I hope this is going to work with the multipliers
http://www.minerhub.io

pool direct wrp.minerhub.io

stratum: us3.minerhub.io:3032

1% pool fee

[romanornr]

Mine the first 500 blocks with Scrypt on Gflare.io

https://gflare.io/coin/wrapper

[wrapperdev]

Mine the first 500 blocks with Scrypt on Gflare.io

https://gflare.io/coin/wrapper

https://i.imgur.com/HIeF2ub.png

Added to the OP

[wrapperdev]

1 more day until our ICO ends. All unsold coins will be burned.

https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[BTC Community]

that means its clone from zcoin or not?

[Coryvmcs1]

that means its clone from zcoin or not?

yes cloned from xzc

[GoldTiger69]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

[Coryvmcs1]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for our pool.

[GoldTiger69]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for the pool.

Thanks for the quick response. What parameter for 'N' are you using?

[onnz423]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for the pool.

Well, your pool still says lyra2 as a algo so you might want to change it?

[Coryvmcs1]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for the pool.

Well, your pool still says lyra2 as a algo so you might want to change it?

Nope it will stay at Lyra2 so when block 500 hits it will be live.

[onnz423]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for the pool.

Well, your pool still says lyra2 as a algo so you might want to change it?

Nope it will stay at Lyra2 so when block 500 hits it will be live.

I do not see a reason why because it will take many hours :/

[imjustsayintho]

So, right now which is the algo that you guys are using for mining? (I'm trying to run a cpuminer to solo mine but not sure what algo to use).

Thanks in advance.

Local wallet is scrypt-n for first 500 blocks then it moves to Lyra2 based on what the Dev stated. We have also been trying to get it all right for the pool.

Well, your pool still says lyra2 as a algo so you might want to change it?

Nope it will stay at Lyra2 so when block 500 hits it will be live.

I do not see a reason why because it will take many hours :/

If you add some hash power it might take less

[coinalt]

First 250 blocks are low reward (1 WRP) to avoid instamine, the algo will start at scrypt-n and change to a custom implementation of LYRA2 at block 500.

to be specific, is it Lyra2RE or Lyra2REv2?

[imjustsayintho]

First 250 blocks are low reward (1 WRP) to avoid instamine, the algo will start at scrypt-n and change to a custom implementation of LYRA2 at block 500.

to be specific, is it Lyra2RE or Lyra2REv2?

Lyra2REv2 based off zcoin

[dfox101]

what's the diff this coin with zcoin then? is it just a clone?

[imjustsayintho]

what's the diff this coin with zcoin then? is it just a clone?

A clone with more capabilities and a marketplace.

[wrapperdev]

what's the diff this coin with zcoin then? is it just a clone?

Every coin needs to start with a base source. We choose zcoin because there's already a miner for it and already has zerocoin implemented on it. We are now building on top of zcoin. See our roadmap for more info.

[toilet]

the block times on this coin are messed up it seems

[wrapperdev]

the block times on this coin are messed up it seems

Blocktime is 12 minutes but it can suffer wild variations in the begging since the hash power being thrown at the network is changing quickly.

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

[CTRLX]

Is there a way to see the hashpower thats pointed at the network?

[wrapperdev]

Is there a way to see the hashpower thats pointed at the network?

The networkhashps parameter when you do "getmininginfo" is a good estimative after the networkhash settles for a bit. In the meanwhile you can have an idea by seeing how much hash pools are throwing at it

[CTRLX]

Is there a way to see the hashpower thats pointed at the network?

The networkhashps parameter when you do "getmininginfo" is a good estimative after the networkhash settles for a bit. In the meanwhile you can have an idea by seeing how much hash pools are throwing at it

Thank you, also congrats on a smooth launch!

[albanes]

Pool- http://wrp.minerhub.io/stats

miner- https://yadi.sk/d/U-RirKiBzzXUb

[wrapperdev]

We were investigating why the blocks were taking a lot more than 12 minutes and our conclusion is that miners threw a lot of hash at Wrapper in beginning in the hopes of instamine the first coins. That attempt was unsuccessful and miners left, leaving us with a high difficulty. This will make the next block take a lot longer to mine but should be solved when the diff is updated. Which happens every 5 blocks. https://github.com/wrapperproject/wrapper/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L2119

When the network hash stabilizes we should get near the 12 minutes per block mark.

You can help us by mining with your wallet ("setgenerate true" in the console).

[bmfkr]

Can someone hook a brotha up with a CPU miner that would work for this coin?

https://github.com/tpruvot/cpuminer-multi

Hello im new on this...im mining zcash right now but i dont really understand yet how WRP is mining. Can someone help me on this?...another question is if WRP is going to be mine with GPU some day?

Please explain if i got to create a bat file or the procedure.

Regards.

[onnz423]

Can someone hook a brotha up with a CPU miner that would work for this coin?

https://github.com/tpruvot/cpuminer-multi

Hello im new on this...im mining zcash right now but i dont really understand yet how WRP is mining. Can someone help me on this?...another question is if WRP is going to be mine with GPU some day?

Please explain if i got to create a bat file or the procedure.

Regards.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770064.0

That atleast but, i do not know much about that program. Atleast some pools will start to work after block 500 (i hope)

[romanornr]

Alright, pool is running again https://gflare.io/coin/wrapper
We had a problem with a corrupt blockchain, I fixed it a few minutes ago.

First 500 blocks is scrypt
After that, I will update wrapper to Lyra2 for the pool.

[onnz423]

Alright, pool is running again https://gflare.io/coin/wrapper
We had a problem with a corrupt blockchain, I fixed it a few minutes ago.

First 500 blocks is scrypt
After that, I will update wrapper to Lyra2 for the pool.

I thought it was neoscrypt but never mind

[wrapperdev]

It's scrypt-n. https://github.com/zcoinofficial/zcoin/blob/f755f95a036eedfef7c96bcfb6769cb79278939f/src/main.h#L1356

[DayTradingHousewife]

I know it's not the first on the priority list at the moment but checking out the example of Tor market http://mwy3ogagzse5cubq.onion/ and i hope you will make it work without javascript for maximum security.

[wrapperdev]

I know it's not the first on the priority list at the moment but checking out the example of Tor market http://mwy3ogagzse5cubq.onion/ and i hope you will make it work without javascript for maximum security.

We are aware of that, that's just a placeholder website. The 1st version won't have javascript.

[wrapperdev]

UPDATE

We are now entering the last 26 hours of our ICO. You can join here: https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

We've been monitoring the network and it is looking healthier, difficulty went down as expected and although still a bit more block times are now closer to 12 minutes. We will soon post a blog entry detailing why the 12 minutes since we've been asked that question a lot. (The TL;DR is because the Fourier Protocol takes some extra time to compute stuff).

[Coryvmcs1]

Scrypt-n has been setup on Minerhub.io wrapper

need a couple miners for testing..

wrp.minerhub.io

[methylminer]

Testing now with cpuminer 1.3

algo

scrypt:1048576

[imjustsayintho]

Scrypt-n has been setup on Minerhub.io wrapper

need a couple miners for testing..

wrp.minerhub.io

Why are all shares showing invalid?

[MostlyGhostly]

Scrypt-n has been setup on Minerhub.io wrapper

need a couple miners for testing..

wrp.minerhub.io

Why are all shares showing invalid?

From the looks of it they blocked your account and keeping what has been mined for themselves. Nevermind, crypto is called carousel of death not by accident, its because short-sighted feeble being pressed down while strong species are taking their monies. They took your shares, yes. Whose fault is that?

[imjustsayintho]

Scrypt-n has been setup on Minerhub.io wrapper

need a couple miners for testing..

wrp.minerhub.io

Why are all shares showing invalid?

From the looks of it they blocked your account and keeping what has been mined for themselves. Nevermind, crypto is called carousel of death not by accident, its because short-sighted feeble being pressed down while strong species are taking their monies. They took your shares, yes. Whose fault is that?

WTH are you talking about?  Only 3 blocks have been mined since I had the issue and none have been found on the pool.  Nobody took anything

[Coryvmcs1]

Scrypt-n has been setup on Minerhub.io wrapper

need a couple miners for testing..

wrp.minerhub.io

Why are all shares showing invalid?

From the looks of it they blocked your account and keeping what has been mined for themselves. Nevermind, crypto is called carousel of death not by accident, its because short-sighted feeble being pressed down while strong species are taking their monies. They took your shares, yes. Whose fault is that?

WTH are you talking about?  Only 3 blocks have been mined since I had the issue and none have been found on the pool.  Nobody took anything

I am still trying to adjust the difficulty on the pool.

[GoldTiger69]

Alright, pool is running again https://gflare.io/coin/wrapper
We had a problem with a corrupt blockchain, I fixed it a few minutes ago.

First 500 blocks is scrypt
After that, I will update wrapper to Lyra2 for the pool.

Anyone can join to your pool? what is the exact algo for your pool? (please, don't say 'scrypt-n', be specific, please)

[methylminer]

Just found 4 blocks.

{
"blocks" : 123,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00080497,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 1523,
"networkhashps" : 35649,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

[GoldTiger69]

Just found 4 blocks.

{
"blocks" : 123,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00080497,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 1523,
"networkhashps" : 35649,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Lucky you

[wrapperdev]

Just found 4 blocks.

{
"blocks" : 123,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00080497,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 1523,
"networkhashps" : 35649,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Lucky you

Difficulty finally went down and blocks were being mined faster. It's going back up now.

[wrapperdev]

Added a "dev" branch to work on the fourier protocol and some other fixes without commiting directly to master.

[cordlesslake]

how can i find some blocks?

[Coryvmcs1]

Waiting till block 500 to see if pool works. So far this has been a difficult project and it's been hard to actually talk to a dev. May be pulling the plug on this one. Will wait and see.

[wrapperdev]

Waiting till block 500 to see if pool works. So far this has been a difficult project and it's been hard to actually talk to a dev. May be pulling the plug on this one. Will wait and see.

We've been constantly online on our Slack and ready to help pools in what we can.

[Coryvmcs1]

Waiting till block 500 to see if pool works. So far this has been a difficult project and it's been hard to actually talk to a dev. May be pulling the plug on this one. Will wait and see.

We've been constantly online on our Slack and ready to help pools in what we can.

Are any pools successful in implementing this project? Let me know so I can compare notes.

[wrapperdev]

Waiting till block 500 to see if pool works. So far this has been a difficult project and it's been hard to actually talk to a dev. May be pulling the plug on this one. Will wait and see.

We've been constantly online on our Slack and ready to help pools in what we can.

Are any pools successful in implementing this project? Let me know so I can compare notes.

I think gflare.io has it very close to or even working. Not sure. We are waiting for block 500 to test out pooling on our end.

[wrapperdev]

Here are some more details of our mining, we are adding them to the OP.

From block 0 to block 500 you can use a normal scryptn miner. After that we change to lyra2.

The constants of the lyra2 algo are:
T=2, R=block_height and C=256 from block 500 to block 8192.
From 8192 block to infinity the constants will be change to T=2, R=8192 and C=256 to avoid memory issues.

From block 500 you will be able to mine with ocminers zcoin miners fork.

Miner:
https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc

[GoldTiger69]

Here are some more details of our mining, we are adding them to the OP.

From block 0 to block 500 you can use a normal scryptn miner. After that we change to lyra2.

The constants of the lyra2 algo are:
T=2, R=block_height and C=256 from block 500 to block 8192.
From 8192 block to infinity the constants will be change to T=2, R=8192 and C=256 to avoid memory issues.

From block 500 you will be able to mine with ocminers zcoin miners fork.

Miner:
https://github.com/ocminer/cpuminer-xzc

And what about the info for the scrypt-n algo? I would like to know the 'N' parameter, if it's not too much to ask.

[wrapperdev]

It's based of on the block height through the function GetNfactor.

main.cpp:

(...)
scrypt_N_1_1_256(BEGIN(block.nVersion), BEGIN(thash), GetNfactor(block.nTime));
(...)

Vertcoin based.

[Pyramusx]

Solo mined 1 WRP through the wallet #wining

[albanes]

cudaminer scrypt-n   https://yadi.sk/d/XI2ddBBh324fbT

[BitPotus]

Detected within the Windows Wallet : Trojan:Win32/Rundas!plock

What's that about?

 

[onnz423]

Detected within the Windows Wallet : Trojan:Win32/Rundas!plock

What's that about?

 

As you can see, it is just the generate setting on the wallet. It is nothing dangerous, some AV's just think them as malware because some bitcoin mining software are used on botnets.

https://www.virustotal.com/fi/file/c3c1497b3ef2c02a87814c062641ac160e8c81dbd1134b2bff844a9086d81674/analysis/

[BitPotus]

I'll give it a pass.

thanks

[wrapperdev]

Trading will start in 4 hours.

[octavarium]

Detected within the Windows Wallet : Trojan:Win32/Rundas!plock

What's that about?

 

As you can see, it is just the generate setting on the wallet. It is nothing dangerous, some AV's just think them as malware because some bitcoin mining software are used on botnets.

https://www.virustotal.com/fi/file/c3c1497b3ef2c02a87814c062641ac160e8c81dbd1134b2bff844a9086d81674/analysis/

accepted on pool and nothing payment,
is that when  i try gpu solomining get rejected

cmiiw

[Apriand]

Trading will start in 4 hours.

Cant wait to see trading started. Already bought some wrp in ico (c-cex). I hope WRP will have some buyer after ico closed. Lets wait an see in a few minutes.

[wrapperdev]

Trading will start in 4 hours.

Cant wait to see trading started. Already bought some wrp in ico (c-cex). I hope WRP will have some buyer after ico closed. Lets wait an see in a few minutes.

ICO is now over. We are waiting for c-cex admin to come online and enable the market.

[wrapperdev]

Spending Report: December 3rd 2016

Available BTC at the start of the week: 0.3039
 
Spendings:
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 0.23591

[wrapperdev]

OP Updated. Will be updated again tomorrow when our designer finishes.
We're still waiting to hear from c-cex about opening the market. No ETA as of right now.

[tooth_fairy]

OP Updated. Will be updated again tomorrow when our designer finishes.
We're still waiting to hear from c-cex about opening the market. No ETA as of right now.

why isnt it open until now ?

[AltPacino]

OP Updated. Will be updated again tomorrow when our designer finishes.
We're still waiting to hear from c-cex about opening the market. No ETA as of right now.

why isnt it open until now ?

You can't read? They're still waiting to hear from c-cex!

[Coryvmcs1]

Hi All after thourogh testing for a few days we are confident that our pool is ready for miners. Although it may not look pretty at the moment there will be upgrades coming on a regular basis.

Info
Payouts are every 30 Mins
Minimum Payout 0.1 WRP

http://www.minerhub.io

Miner Download
Windows: http://minerhub.io/forum/mining-rig-help/wrapperzcoin-windows-miner-release/
Linux Build: https://github.com/Coryvmcs1/cpuminer-wrp

Miner Configuration
./cpuminer -a lyra2rev2 -o stratum+tcp://us3.minerhub.io:3002 -u WRzXw45gQzxsPKTnoQSgZMy6mjFgwaekyo -p x --no-extranonce


Cheers

[BestTwitterTrader]

Is anyone even mining any worthwhile amount? This is painful.

[imjustsayintho]

Is anyone even mining any worthwhile amount? This is painful.

Painful in the beginning huh?  You need a pc or cloud that has some some strong and some luck.  I'm getting blocks.

[imjustsayintho]

Slap yourself if you sell under 700k 

[BestTwitterTrader]

Slap yourself if you sell under 700k 

700k? wtf? That's wayyyyyyyyyyy over the ICO price. I stopped mining....this makes no sense. Mined 260 coins, which could have been purchased from ico for a laughable cost.

[imjustsayintho]

Slap yourself if you sell under 700k 

700k? wtf? That's wayyyyyyyyyyy over the ICO price. I stopped mining....this makes no sense. Mined 260 coins, which could have been purchased from ico for a laughable cost.

Ha bro anything is possible here.  So you missed out on the ICO? I'd say keep mining

[HellSong]

Hi All after thourogh testing for a few days we are confident that our pool is ready for miners. Although it may not look pretty at the moment there will be upgrades coming on a regular basis.

Info
Payouts are every 30 Mins
Minimum Payout 0.1 WRP

http://www.minerhub.io

Miner Download
Windows: http://minerhub.io/forum/mining-rig-help/wrapperzcoin-windows-miner-release/
Linux Build: https://github.com/Coryvmcs1/cpuminer-wrp

Miner Configuration
./cpuminer -a lyra2rev2 -o stratum+tcp://us3.minerhub.io:3002 -u WRzXw45gQzxsPKTnoQSgZMy6mjFgwaekyo -p x --no-extranonce


Cheers

how to fix the reject rate guys ?
 accepted: 93/99 (93.94%), 0.05 kH/s yes!
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] CPU #3: 0.01 kH/s
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] Stratum difficulty set to 0.00064
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] CPU #0: 0.01 kH/s
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] accepted: 93/100 (93.00%), 0.05 kH/s booooo
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] reject reason: low difficulty share of 0.000001562362768589615
[2016-12-04 09:04:53] factor reduced to : 0.06

[Coryvmcs1]

100 blocks to go till Pool is HOT!!!

[Coryvmcs1]

100 blocks to go till Pool is HOT!!!

If you are mining you are not going to get anything as it doesn't start till block 500. There is 100 blocks left to go till new algo cuts over.

[HellSong]

100 blocks to go till Pool is HOT!!!

If you are mining you are not going to get anything as it doesn't start till block 500. There is 100 blocks left to go till new algo cuts over.

yes i know . but still , wen testing it i got allot of rejects .

[Coryvmcs1]

100 blocks to go till Pool is HOT!!!

If you are mining you are not going to get anything as it doesn't start till block 500. There is 100 blocks left to go till new algo cuts over.

yes i know . but still , wen testing it i got allot of rejects .

Your going to get a lot yes because it's the wrong algo and the pool resets the connections. We shall see how it goes as soon as the new algo kicks in and we can tweak it as needed. This was a very wonky algo and it's honestly very problematic.

[wrapperdev]

WRP trading now available. https://c-cex.com/?p=wrp-btc

[micher143]

wrapper dead now..under ico price

[wrapperdev]

We are now waiting for c-cex to provide us with a proof of burn for the unsold coins.

[Pyramusx]

wrapper dead now..under ico price

Is this your first ICO? This happens to literally every single ICO

[sofu]

What was ICO price?

[wrapperdev]

What was ICO price?

(...)

ICO (Ended)

The ICO (Initial Coin Offer) of 10 Million WRP was hosted by c-cex.com.
The offer will lasted three weeks, with rewards for early investors. The price schedule was the following:

-First week (12/11/16 16:00 to 19/11/16 18:00): 1050 Satoshi/WRP (30% reward);

-Second week (19/11/16 18:00 to 26/11/16 18:00):  1200 Satoshi/WRP (20% reward);

-Third week (26/11/16 18:00 to 3/12/16 18:00):  1500 Satoshi/WRP (No reward).

All times are GMT +0.

53% of the ICO was sold. 47% of the 10 million WRP that were allocated for the ICO will be burned by C-Cex (4724022.3499 WRP).

(...)

[Apriand]

What was ICO price?

(...)

ICO (Ended)

The ICO (Initial Coin Offer) of 10 Million WRP was hosted by c-cex.com.
The offer will lasted three weeks, with rewards for early investors. The price schedule was the following:

-First week (12/11/16 16:00 to 19/11/16 18:00): 1050 Satoshi/WRP (30% reward);

-Second week (19/11/16 18:00 to 26/11/16 18:00):  1200 Satoshi/WRP (20% reward);

-Third week (26/11/16 18:00 to 3/12/16 18:00):  1500 Satoshi/WRP (No reward).

All times are GMT +0.

53% of the ICO was sold. 47% of the 10 million WRP that were allocated for the ICO will be burned by C-Cex (4724022.3499 WRP).

(...)

Trading is slow on c-cex. I hope WRP will listed to major exchange then price and volume will continue increase.

[Pyramusx]

How much BTC was raised through the ICO and can we get an idea of how that money will be used in the short-term? Perhaps a Bittrex listing? It would likely be but a very small percentage of all that was raised anyway and worth the money as it would have more volume and a more attentive staff than C-cex. YoBit is a cheaper option with more activity than C-cex as well.

[wrapperdev]

How much BTC was raised through the ICO and can we get an idea of how that money will be used in the short-term? Perhaps a Bittrex listing? It would likely be but a very small percentage of all that was raised anyway and worth the money as it would have more volume and a more attentive staff than C-cex. YoBit is a cheaper option with more activity than C-cex as well.

We are working in getting WRP listed on other exchanges, please understand that we've been trading for 1 day. This things take time.
We already made contact with bittrex and sent a tweet out to YoBit, waiting for their.
Also, we don't have access to the ICO funds just yet since they are locked for 5 days after the ICO ends (according to CCex's ICO rules). As soon as we have them we will provide a special "Spending Report" like the ones we've been doing every week.

[DiCE1904]

Great to see you guys using I2P for something. Watching

[Pyramusx]

How much BTC was raised through the ICO and can we get an idea of how that money will be used in the short-term? Perhaps a Bittrex listing? It would likely be but a very small percentage of all that was raised anyway and worth the money as it would have more volume and a more attentive staff than C-cex. YoBit is a cheaper option with more activity than C-cex as well.

We are working in getting WRP listed on other exchanges, please understand that we've been trading for 1 day. This things take time.
We already made contact with bittrex and sent a tweet out to YoBit, waiting for their.
Also, we don't have access to the ICO funds just yet since they are locked for 5 days after the ICO ends (according to CCex's ICO rules). As soon as we have them we will provide a special "Spending Report" like the ones we've been doing every week.

Totally understandable, just offering suggestions for what would work in terms of transparency to keep people on here from freaking out immediately. The weekly spending reports were great, so definitely keep it up when applicable

[wrapperdev]

ANN updated with images and overall better design.

[logictense]

Shut up wrapper. U are the stupid, get off my sight and dont forget to lick the rear side of my CAP hat. i2p is out its right under ur nose, what makes u so much cluttered and frowning. Dont be a dislogical creature and run on ur two until u see the exit from cryptoland. i2p relay is here, u know what this means? i2p is huge news, but u, wrapper, should be aware its not for u and none of ur business.

[logictense]

wrapper dead now..under ico price

Is this your first ICO? This happens to literally every single ICO

I think yes. Regardless, he has no relation to the development of i2p.

[wrapperdev]

Shut up wrapper. U are the stupid, get off my sight and dont forget to lick the rear side of my CAP hat. i2p is out its right under ur nose, what makes u so much cluttered and frowning. Dont be a dislogical creature and run on ur two until u see the exit from cryptoland. i2p relay is here, u know what this means? i2p is huge news, but u, wrapper, should be aware its not for u and none of ur business.

I'm afraid I didn't understand what you meant.

[logictense]

Shut up wrapper. U are the stupid, get off my sight and dont forget to lick the rear side of my CAP hat. i2p is out its right under ur nose, what makes u so much cluttered and frowning. Dont be a dislogical creature and run on ur two until u see the exit from cryptoland. i2p relay is here, u know what this means? i2p is huge news, but u, wrapper, should be aware its not for u and none of ur business.

I'm afraid I didn't understand what you meant.

Who made this coin for u?

[Pyramusx]

Shut up wrapper. U are the stupid, get off my sight and dont forget to lick the rear side of my CAP hat. i2p is out its right under ur nose, what makes u so much cluttered and frowning. Dont be a dislogical creature and run on ur two until u see the exit from cryptoland. i2p relay is here, u know what this means? i2p is huge news, but u, wrapper, should be aware its not for u and none of ur business.

That's a fight on my block

[Gunther]

I was raped by the dev. My dark hole still hurts from his fat ebola belly. Please guys, don't ever buy this again.

[logictense]

Lol! Gunter here. Hows ur day goin bruh> What are u doing for living?

[Fidel007]

their wallet is full of viruses and they're not false positives due to the miner.

these guys paid some dodgy developer to do that wallet for them.

[wrapperdev]

their wallet is full of viruses and they're not false positives due to the miner.

these guys paid some dodgy developer to do that wallet for them.

We have addressed that. The wallet was compile by us and the positives are due to our in-wallet miner.

[imjustsayintho]

their wallet is full of viruses and they're not false positives due to the miner.

these guys paid some dodgy developer to do that wallet for them.

Bro do you homework on this coin.  It is moving along real nice.

[wrapperdev]

I was raped by the dev. My dark hole still hurts from his fat ebola belly. Please guys, don't ever buy this again.

Your feedback is noted, but from this point on we'll only respond to constructive dialogue.

[logictense]

Shut up wrapper. U are the stupid, get off my sight and dont forget to lick the rear side of my CAP hat. i2p is out its right under ur nose, what makes u so much cluttered and frowning. Dont be a dislogical creature and run on ur two until u see the exit from cryptoland. i2p relay is here, u know what this means? i2p is huge news, but u, wrapper, should be aware its not for u and none of ur business.

That's a fight on my block

See the OP says wrapper. i2p market,,...,, and devs name is wrapper. The wrapper account u see posting right now is preserved by silly baseball pitcher. Shame. Pitcher is on the same level of understanding tech as my cat and talks about stuff as if he developed it. Wrapper. U re not a wrapper. Someone made this coin for him.

[logictense]

their wallet is full of viruses and they're not false positives due to the miner.

these guys paid some dodgy developer to do that wallet for them.

We have addressed that. The wallet was compile by us and the positives are due to our in-wallet miner.

Its main focus is to bring the power of i2p to the masses. i2p! This is internet 5.0. Why would u waste time on an in-wallet miner when u develop such an important tech as i2p?

[wrapperdev]

their wallet is full of viruses and they're not false positives due to the miner.

these guys paid some dodgy developer to do that wallet for them.

We have addressed that. The wallet was compile by us and the positives are due to our in-wallet miner.

Its main focus is to bring the power of i2p to the masses. i2p! This is internet 5.0. Why would u waste time on an in-wallet miner when u develop such an important tech as i2p?

We did not develop I2P and our main focus isn't to bring I2P to the masses. I'm not sure where you got that information from.

[Coryvmcs1]

Can we get the actual dev to join the convo to add some transparency to the project. I think what some people are saying because of how your the Middle man and it's pretty obvious that you didn't actually develop the coin and had someone clone another project for you to base off of. Maybe a little more transparency to the public is in order. Usually Devs have no issues jumping in on a convo. This way you can put and did to rest.

[wrapperdev]

Can we get the actual dev to join the convo to add some transparency to the project. I think what some people are saying because of how your the Middle man and it's pretty obvious that you didn't actually develop the coin and had someone clone another project for you to base off of. Maybe a little more transparency to the public is in order. Usually Devs have no issues jumping in on a convo. This way you can put and did to rest.

What are the questions people have? We are a team and my job is to moderate and answer investors doubts and concerns, the developer who is currently working on the Fourier Protocol and that cloned Wrapper is not a random person we hired, he's with us and is part of the project.

We have a strict roadmap we are following and have been delivering and building upon it since the beggining (even before the ICO launched), if there are concerns please explain them  directly here, via Slack or via PM and I'll answer them ASAP.

[imjustsayintho]

Can we get the actual dev to join the convo to add some transparency to the project. I think what some people are saying because of how your the Middle man and it's pretty obvious that you didn't actually develop the coin and had someone clone another project for you to base off of. Maybe a little more transparency to the public is in order. Usually Devs have no issues jumping in on a convo. This way you can put and did to rest.

He's obviously the company spokesperson and has been extremely responsive in the slack to all questions and here as well.  I think the devs are taking a precautions step in revealing their identity with their upcoming Tor/I2p marketplace soon to be released.  The coin overall seems to be revealing more when it's necessary to do so.  I find this refreshing.

[logictense]

Can we get the actual dev to join the convo to add some transparency to the project. I think what some people are saying because of how your the Middle man and it's pretty obvious that you didn't actually develop the coin and had someone clone another project for you to base off of. Maybe a little more transparency to the public is in order. Usually Devs have no issues jumping in on a convo. This way you can put and did to rest.

Actual dev speaks commandments to the guy behind the wrapper account, and he updates the thread. The dev is a lurker mostly, hasnt been showing up on forums for a prolonged period of time. Maybe hes on his periods or something. Guy hiding behind the wrapper account manages the thread and is likely a baseball pitcher, with no technical background to construct adequate updates. He talks for the sake of talking. Someone who made this coin may re-appear soon and deliver more substantial insight into whats going on with the actual i2p tech. Built-in miner is a joke move of course.

[CTRLX]

FUD this early is only seen in promising projects. Please dump more.

[Pyramusx]

Someone please explain what he means by 'baseball pitcher' lol

And in-wallet miners have been common since altcoins became a thing. I don't get why this guy feels personally afflicted by a miner or anything about I2P...

[Coryvmcs1]

To be honest what the hell is he even saying lol. Must me some kind of translator.

[onnz423]

To be honest what the hell is he even saying lol. Must me some kind of translator.

Lol, yeah. Cannot wait ur pool to be online

[Coryvmcs1]

To be honest what the hell is he even saying lol. Must me some kind of translator.

Lol, yeah. Cannot wait ur pool to be online

I think 7 blocks to go

[wrapperdev]

Great news! We are successfully past block 500 and are now running lyra2. Difficulty is adjusting.

[BestTwitterTrader]

Great news! We are successfully past block 500 and are now running lyra2. Difficulty is adjusting.

Are you going to release a new wallet? The current one is still running Scrypt for the built-in miner.

Do you guys even know what you're doing?

http://imgur.com/a/tbgXY

[GoldTiger69]

Great news! We are successfully past block 500 and are now running lyra2. Difficulty is adjusting.

The weird thing is that now the blocks are being found quicker than before. I would expect less blocks with the new algo (which now I don't know if it's the same as the zcoin or what)

[wrapperdev]

Great news! We are successfully past block 500 and are now running lyra2. Difficulty is adjusting.

Are you going to release a new wallet? The current one is still running Scrypt for the built-in miner.

Do you guys even know what you're doing?

http://imgur.com/a/tbgXY

Yes we do. Take a look at our main.cpp here: https://github.com/wrapperproject/wrapper/blob/0cb1a4ea53b50b0c056be525fecd4551de94142b/src/main.cpp

Please read line 6258. The debug.log will show a message saying it's running a scrypt miner even when lyra2 is running (line 6293). Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will fix it now.

We have been test mining here without difficulties.

Great news! We are successfully past block 500 and are now running lyra2. Difficulty is adjusting.

The weird thing is that now the blocks are being found quicker than before. I would expect less blocks with the new algo (which now I don't know if it's the same as the zcoin or what)

Difficulty is still adjusting but it should settle in 12 minutes soon.

[albanes]

wrapper   lyra2   10   339373   27317   0   0   0   0   0.00 KH   ??

[imjustsayintho]

wrapper   lyra2   10   339373   27317   0   0   0   0   0.00 KH   ??

cpu only

[albanes]

WRP  SCAM coin   бaceин нe paбoтaeт мoнeтy пpocтo cливaют  pool is closed coin just poured!!!

[imjustsayintho]

WRP  SCAM coin   бaceин нe paбoтaeт мoнeтy пpocтo cливaют  pool is closed coin just poured!!!

What is wrong with wallet mining?

[wrapperdev]

We are aware of problems with the "getnetworkhashps" function and are working on it. We are also hiring another developer soon so we can speed things a bit in the development end.

[Coryvmcs1]

Due to the issues with this coin and the fact that it is hampering our reputation with miners we will be disabling this coin until further notice and a algo update fix has been applied.

[logictense]

Someone please explain what he means by 'baseball pitcher' lol

To be honest what the hell is he even saying lol. Must me some kind of translator.

I cant help u out boy If u wanna gear up for some more insight into avoiding scams then read my posts carefully.

[logictense]

Where is wrapper dev? Show up nasty boy.

[logictense]

yah cucks its so fucking hard to comprehend that the "dev" posting in here is not the actual dev. keep supporting this rubbish

[imjustsayintho]

yah cucks its so fucking hard to comprehend that the "dev" posting in here is not the actual dev. keep supporting this rubbish

What is your problem?  If you have questions "the team" responds asap in the slack?  I've been in the slack since day 1 and haven't seen any questions go unanswered.

[notsofast]

yah cucks its so fucking hard to comprehend that the "dev" posting in here is not the actual dev. keep supporting this rubbish

What is your problem?  If you have questions "the team" responds asap in the slack?  I've been in the slack since day 1 and haven't seen any questions go unanswered.

Welcome to the toxic hell that is bct altcoin boards. Unfortunately trolls like this ruin it for a lot of people-- they're no longer strategic fudders trying to buy low, they're more likely butthurt ICO buyers who are having a tantrum over an underwater position on an ICO buy. It's why legitimate discussion has moved to slack, twitter, other boards, or pretty much anywhere else.

[logictense]

yah cucks its so fucking hard to comprehend that the "dev" posting in here is not the actual dev. keep supporting this rubbish

What is your problem?  If you have questions "the team" responds asap in the slack?  I've been in the slack since day 1 and haven't seen any questions go unanswered.

I do. I have a Giza-sized bunch of questions. All about i2p relay. I didnt know there was a slack channel. Anyways Im not hanging on in there. I will unlikely join. Better have him (the person allegedly developing the claimed in the OP tech) release the whitepaper, it will be my pleasure to read up on it.

I still think he hasnt got enough technical savvy to do a paper. This tech is one of the most promising technologies being worked on in telecommunications and computer networks as of now. Sadly, its not gonna go along with the draft proposed in the OP and dev's commitment to it.

[wrapperdev]

yah cucks its so fucking hard to comprehend that the "dev" posting in here is not the actual dev. keep supporting this rubbish

What is your problem?  If you have questions "the team" responds asap in the slack?  I've been in the slack since day 1 and haven't seen any questions go unanswered.

I do. I have a Giza-sized bunch of questions. All about i2p relay. I didnt know there was a slack channel. Anyways Im not hanging on in there. I will unlikely join. Better have him (the person allegedly developing the claimed in the OP tech) release the whitepaper, it will be my pleasure to read up on it.

I still think he hasnt got enough technical savvy to do a paper. This tech is one of the most promising technologies being worked on in telecommunications and computer networks as of now. Sadly, its not gonna go along with the draft proposed in the OP and dev's commitment to it.

There you go: http://wrapperproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/WrapperWhitepaper1_0.pdf

[strasboug]

Not sure what is new in the ico coin. Sounds like zerocoin is just ported from coins like zcoin. Anything technically new and implemented?

[wrapperdev]

Not sure what is new in the ico coin. Sounds like zerocoin is just ported from coins like zcoin. Anything technically new and implemented?

We are working on something we call "Fourier Protocol", it's being worked in the dev branch and you can read more about it in the OP, our website or our whitepaper.

[GoldTiger69]

"Until this moment there was also no noteworthy solution to the problem with the size of the blockchain, with users
relying on Moore’s Law to solve the this problem."

English is not my first language, but I think 'the', in this case, shouldn't be there.

Just an observation. I'll keep reading.

[GoldTiger69]

"One of Fourier’s advantages is that, unlike the zerocoin protocol a lot of less code is needed to implement it, the first version of the protocol is has less than 6 files."

Maybe should be better to read again the paper before posting it? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to FUD your work, but to be honest, it will be better if the paper was written in a more appropriate way.

Just saying.

[GoldTiger69]

" The Fourier Protocol then takes this address and the the hashed transaction ID and creates two
sinusoidal waves, ..."

Ok, this is the last mistake I'll post. Again, please don't get me wrong; it's just that I think that a paper should look as professional as possible.

[wrapperdev]

As the name suggests, this is the first version of the whitepaper. English is not our first language as well but we will contact a native speaker to go over the writing.
And maybe we should make the whitepaper a little more visible in the OP, seems like a big part of the people that read it don't notice we have one.

EDIT: It's being done right now.

[wrapperdev]

We also have a roadmap, in case anyone missed it:

https://i.imgur.com/HohOY5W.jpg

[Crypt0bull]

Is there a blockexplorer for wrapper?

[wrapperdev]

Is there a blockexplorer for wrapper?

Coming this friday. Already contacted the guys at chainz.

Btw, if you are not on our Slack you probably don't know this, the guys at c-cex still didn't burn our coins after we extensively asked them too. We are pressuring them again tomorrow.

[JudgeDredd_]

I can translate your thread, wallet, website, any text in French. I will market your coin in the French community to give you a higher spot light.

PM me for a price.

some recent work;
I did the whole C-CEX exchange website translation in French, net wallet in French and threads.

thank you.

[Fidel007]

I can translate your thread, wallet, website, any text in French. I will market your coin in the French community to give you a higher spot light.

PM me for a price.

some recent work;
I did the whole C-CEX exchange website translation in French, net wallet in French and threads.

thank you.

nique ta mere Judge.

t'u disais que c'etait une arnaque sur C-CEX.

tapette...

[GoldTiger69]

Is there a blockexplorer for wrapper?

Coming this friday. Already contacted the guys at chainz.

Btw, if you are not on our Slack you probably don't know this, the guys at c-cex still didn't burn our coins after we extensively asked them too. We are pressuring them again tomorrow.

The question is: how can you really pressure them?

[wrapperdev]

Is there a blockexplorer for wrapper?

Coming this friday. Already contacted the guys at chainz.

Btw, if you are not on our Slack you probably don't know this, the guys at c-cex still didn't burn our coins after we extensively asked them too. We are pressuring them again tomorrow.

The question is: how can you really pressure them?

We've been calling them publicly by sending them daily tweets. Also been talking to them via skype.

[jeewaka]

How does one mine from the wallet? pardon my ignorance.

[wrapperdev]

How does one mine from the wallet? pardon my ignorance.

While no pools are available you can use the in wallet miner. We have been talking to pools and they had sone difficulties with the algo. We will present a solution for this in a few days.

[jeewaka]

How does one mine from the wallet? pardon my ignorance.

While no pools are available you can use the in wallet miner. We have been talking to pools and they had sone difficulties with the algo. We will present a solution for this in a few days.

I just downloaded the wallet and its version v0.8.7.2-unk-beta
Is that the latest and I don't see a built in miner in the wallet.

[onnz423]

How does one mine from the wallet? pardon my ignorance.

While no pools are available you can use the in wallet miner. We have been talking to pools and they had sone difficulties with the algo. We will present a solution for this in a few days.

I just downloaded the wallet and its version v0.8.7.2-unk-beta
Is that the latest and I don't see a built in miner in the wallet.

Settings -> debug -> console and write "setgenerate true" if i remember correctly

Edit: or make a conf file named on %appdata%/wrapper named wrapper.conf and add like "gen=1" to it and save. You'll see the mining speed by writing "getmininginfo" into the console

[gaazje]

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??


18:53:20

getmininginfo


18:53:20

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


18:53:43

getmininginfo


18:53:43

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


18:53:20

getmininginfo


18:53:20

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


18:53:43

getmininginfo


18:53:43

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

18:55:52

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 27100,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 2,
"testnet" : false
}


18:56:23

getmininginfo


18:56:23

{
"blocks" : 804,
"currentblocksize" : 27100,
"currentblocktx" : 2,
"difficulty" : 0.00029145,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : true,
"genproclimit" : 4,
"hashespersec" : 60,
"networkhashps" : 1285,
"pooledtx" : 2,
"testnet" : false
}

[wrapperdev]

C-cex just burned the unsold ICO coins.

Their tweet:

"WRP ICO leftover coins burned to non-wallet address: a68c87975a7586d8b00d2c6d2ee971629e1f3846590883f9f5fbfb2cd07764f9"

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??

(..)

We are working on getting this fixed but it has to do with lyra2 not being completely backwards compatible.

[GoldTiger69]

C-cex just burned the unsold ICO coins.

Their tweet:

"WRP ICO leftover coins burned to non-wallet address: a68c87975a7586d8b00d2c6d2ee971629e1f3846590883f9f5fbfb2cd07764f9"

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??

(..)

We are working on getting this fixed but it has to do with lyra2 not being completely backwards compatible.

Excuse my ignorance, but 'completely backwards' with what?

[CoinExchange.io]

WRP/BTC market has been added to CoinExchange.io:

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/WRP/BTC

Peer explorer:

https://www.coinexchange.io/network/peers/WRP

[onnz423]

WRP/BTC market has been added to CoinExchange.io:

https://www.coinexchange.io/market/WRP/BTC

Peer explorer:

https://www.coinexchange.io/network/peers/WRP

Thank you for adding us

[coinalt]

Anti virus software flagged and removed the wallet as Trojan.Gen.2, is this normal?

[onnz423]

Anti virus software flagged and removed the wallet as Trojan.Gen.2, is this normal?

Yeah it is normal, some antivirus software detect mining software as malware https://www.virustotal.com/fi/file/c3c1497b3ef2c02a87814c062641ac160e8c81dbd1134b2bff844a9086d81674/analysis/

[gaazje]

C-cex just burned the unsold ICO coins.

Their tweet:

"WRP ICO leftover coins burned to non-wallet address: a68c87975a7586d8b00d2c6d2ee971629e1f3846590883f9f5fbfb2cd07764f9"

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??

(..)

We are working on getting this fixed but it has to do with lyra2 not being completely backwards compatible.

Is there any use in mining then? or are u going to reward me to for finding the bug?

[wrapperdev]

C-cex just burned the unsold ICO coins.

Their tweet:

"WRP ICO leftover coins burned to non-wallet address: a68c87975a7586d8b00d2c6d2ee971629e1f3846590883f9f5fbfb2cd07764f9"

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??

(..)

We are working on getting this fixed but it has to do with lyra2 not being completely backwards compatible.

Is there any use in mining then? or are u going to reward me to for finding the bug?

We knew about this bug before it has been talked about in our Slack and we said we were correcting ita few posts ago.
Mining works and you can find blocks normally.

[Mark02]

C-cex just burned the unsold ICO coins.

Their tweet:

"WRP ICO leftover coins burned to non-wallet address: a68c87975a7586d8b00d2c6d2ee971629e1f3846590883f9f5fbfb2cd07764f9"

In wallet mining look strange, blocksize changes , "hashespersec" : 0 most of the time??

(..)

We are working on getting this fixed but it has to do with lyra2 not being completely backwards compatible.

Is there any use in mining then? or are u going to reward me to for finding the bug?

We knew about this bug before it has been talked about in our Slack and we said we were correcting ita few posts ago.
Mining works and you can find blocks normally.

Yeah. The team is fixing all the bugs of the coin. And if you will join the slack, you will see that they are very responding. They are doing their very best to stabilize the coin yet they are criticized by this people who don't know what's happening. They are dumping their coins for no reason, that's being unprofessional in trading. Well, Let's see what this coin can do. And its future updates.

[wrapperdev]

Great news. The new wallet is almost ready, will be available monday. This wallet will solve the problems pool have been having with the algo by changing it to normal scrypt (litecoin, dogecoin).
The fourier protocol implementation is still on track to happen in new years making our last roadmap still valid.

[YAdaminer]

Great news. The new wallet is almost ready, will be available monday. This wallet will solve the problems pool have been having with the algo by changing it to normal scrypt (litecoin, dogecoin).
The fourier protocol implementation is still on track to happen in new years making our last roadmap still valid.

LOL
No, no, this is almost great news.

[DeezBTC]

Buy Low Sell High

[sofu]

Looks like selfbought ICO coins get safely dumped  

[strasboug]

1000+ satoshis bought "ICO" now available at 158 satoshi? lol. Dev don't dump tooo quick please... let those stupid "investors" out, they have lost their shirts now, soon will be their pants!

[wrapperdev]

We are still here and although out policy is to not comment on the market price we can say we haven't "self-bought" our ICO.

[coincrete]

how much did you raise?

[BestTwitterTrader]

I invested in this coin and now i like strange sex with animals.

It ruined my life.

[Gunther]

I invested in this coin and now i like strange sex with animals.

It ruined my life.

That's funny - ever since the Nimbus dev violated me anally i'm interested in people who 'r attracted to animals. It's anamalistic, almost beastlike.
Man, those coin devs are not only taking our money, they also take our PRIDE, our DIGNITY and our good FUCKING SENSE OF GODDAMN SEXUAL PREFERENCES GODDAMNIT WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUU.

I feel you man, i feel you. Oh yeah, i'm not buying this coin. I'd rather bang the Nimbus dev his hairy Brazillian gf, reminds me of a beaver.

[coincrete]

its pure pleasure to read your post guys

[toilet]

dev is just toying with anyone watching the markets.....currently 56 btc buy wall at 69 satoshi for 16x the current coin supply

 

[wrapperdev]

This week's spending report is now available:

Available BTC at the start of the week: 0.23591
 
Spendings:
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC

Gains:
ICO Funding: 52.3401 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 52.56892

[Gunther]

This week's spending report is now available:

Available BTC at the start of the week: 0.23591
 
Spendings:
CloudOcean’s servers: 0.06799 BTC

Gains:
ICO Funding: 52.3401 BTC
 
Available BTC at the end of the week: 52.56892

Are you proud at yourself fucking stooleating homosexual? Go dump the rest of this coin and just GTFO. I'm so angry right now. Already lost a fucking eye because I jammed a knive in my eyeball.
WHHHHRUUUUUAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!     

[ricardosuperx]

WRP DO NOT HAVE BLOCK EXPLORER


BM + XPOKE = WRP


WRP SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onnz423]

Any info on block explorer?

[onnz423]

WRP DO NOT HAVE BLOCK EXPLORER


BM + XPOKE = WRP


WRP SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BM + XPOKE? And how not having a block explorer equals scam?

[Pyramusx]

Hey Wrapper team,

So now that the ICO funds are secured, we would all like to see frequent updates to the dev blog and a more developed road map that has estimates how the ICO funds will be used.

This road map should, at the bare minimum as a starting point, answer questions like: Will exchange additions be paid for? Will a block explorer be paid for? How will the funds secure the creation of a market? And if there are any long term plans for continuing the funding of this project once ICO funds are exhausted.

[donnyespo]

Hey Wrapper team,

So now that the ICO funds are secured, we would all like to see frequent updates to the dev blog and a more developed road map that has estimates how the ICO funds will be used.

This road map should, at the bare minimum as a starting point, answer questions like: Will exchange additions be paid for? Will a block explorer be paid for? How will the funds secure the creation of a market? And if there are any long term plans for continuing the funding of this project once ICO funds are exhausted.

Yes I agree, now with the funds in the hands of the dev's a BE and more exchanges should be sought.

Surprised NOVA hasn't added considering they were thinking of hosting ICO>

[albanes]

you still believe in miracles ?? this coin corpse !!!

[YAdaminer]

There is no need for miracle.
New wallet, block explorer and mining pool would be just fine.

[DeezBTC]

It is monday i want mine $WRP where is the pool

[ricardosuperx]

It is monday i want mine $WRP where is the pool

SHITCOIN... FOR 1 SATOSHI

[ricardosuperx]

WRP DO NOT HAVE BLOCK EXPLORER


BM + XPOKE = WRP


WRP SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BM + XPOKE? And how not having a block explorer equals scam?

SCAM...WAIT!

[albanes]

and you doubt this that WRP SCAM

[BitPotus]

this is starting to look as if the dev's just abandoned the project the second they got access to the funds.

 

[CTRLX]

Out of this shit project, lost a little BTC but gained a lot of renewed wisdom: ICO.never.again

[YAdaminer]

Hmm, from my perspective nothing good ever came from C-CEX ICO.
It seems from time to time I need to confirm it to myself.
I don't know if this is scam or not but right now it looks like one.
edit
Yea, out of this.

[alt213]

this is starting to look as if the dev's just abandoned the project the second they got access to the funds.

 

it was scam since the beginning (copy/past answers), and he will appear again with new scam c-cex ico in near future.

[MikeGike]

WRP is developing on schedule!  7,000 and accumulating

[DeadBirdzz]

WRP is developing on schedule!  7,000 and accumulating

fuck off you twat.

it's dead.

[BTC Community]

seems dev left . keep watching

[romanornr]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

[notsofast]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

I take risks and lose, same as anybody else.

WrapperTeam contacted me first, asking for advice. I gave them some advice and we struck up a conversation through which I decided I'd give them some help.

They seemed legitimate to me through our conversations and if that was a long con/social engineering attack designed to fool me all along, then shame on me, but damn did they put a lot of work into it.

I could publish screenshots of twitter dms between myself and WrapperTeam but I suppose I'd just get accused of using a puppet account or photoshopping the conversation.

hungry mama, thanks for your opinion, but I don't have time to run more than one account or internet identity. I have my own trading and my own projects. Supporting/shilling projects and opportunities I like and have bought into is something I do because a) I am enthusiastic about crypto and b) I like to share that enthusiasm with others who like crypto.

It's unfortunate if anyone-- including me-- lost BTC we bought Wrapper with, but I can't apologize for that because I don't own anyone else's decisions, only my own.

[hungry mama]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

Fair enough

[hungry mama]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

I take risks and lose, same as anybody else.

WrapperTeam contacted me first, asking for advice. I gave them some advice and we struck up a conversation through which I decided I'd give them some help.

They seemed legitimate to me through our conversations and if that was a long con/social engineering attack designed to fool me all along, then shame on me, but damn did they put a lot of work into it.

I could publish screenshots of twitter dms between myself and WrapperTeam but I suppose I'd just get accused of using a puppet account or photoshopping the conversation.

hungry mama, thanks for your opinion, but I don't have time to run more than one account or internet identity. I have my own trading and my own projects. Supporting/shilling projects and opportunities I like and have bought into is something I do because a) I am enthusiastic about crypto and b) I like to share that enthusiasm with others who like crypto.

It's unfortunate if anyone-- including me-- lost BTC we bought Wrapper with, but I can't apologize for that because I don't own anyone else's decisions, only my own.

Fair enough. Has anything changed for you in the way you make decisions or do you think you were careful enough and that you were simply unlucky?

[notsofast]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

I take risks and lose, same as anybody else.

WrapperTeam contacted me first, asking for advice. I gave them some advice and we struck up a conversation through which I decided I'd give them some help.

They seemed legitimate to me through our conversations and if that was a long con/social engineering attack designed to fool me all along, then shame on me, but damn did they put a lot of work into it.

I could publish screenshots of twitter dms between myself and WrapperTeam but I suppose I'd just get accused of using a puppet account or photoshopping the conversation.

hungry mama, thanks for your opinion, but I don't have time to run more than one account or internet identity. I have my own trading and my own projects. Supporting/shilling projects and opportunities I like and have bought into is something I do because a) I am enthusiastic about crypto and b) I like to share that enthusiasm with others who like crypto.

It's unfortunate if anyone-- including me-- lost BTC we bought Wrapper with, but I can't apologize for that because I don't own anyone else's decisions, only my own.

Fair enough. Has anything changed for you in the way you make decisions or do you think you were careful enough and that you were simply unlucky?

Well, the altcoin launch game did undergo a change from 2015 to 2016. The shitty scam projects started to have to work harder to appear legitimate. The bar for that is higher. Like, it's really easy to debunk a devdump altcoin launch that has a block reward of like 6 coins and a "low" 10% premine but a coin cap of 500 billion... the scam devs are now starting to run what looks like a proper project on its surface.

In terms of Wrapper specifically, even though I'm not a mathematician/coder, I could see the value in creating open source code that would make zcoin/zcash blockchains work more efficiently, which is what they explained to me they were trying to do. That, plus the courteous and frequent conversations with Wrapperdev gave me some confidence that their project was worth seeing through. Alarm bells didn't go off for me until the broken code in the launch wallets went unfixed for so long.

Where I'm going with this: I have a big set of criteria, some weighted heavier than others, which I use to determine what to support or speculate on. The criteria are weighted differently and some deal with reducing risk, while others deal with maximizing profit. I learned really early on from other traders/altcoiners that it's worth it to talk to devs privately. You can gather information, feel out their legitimacy, and sometimes gain an opportunity to help. So to answer your question, no, I probably won't abandon my decision criteria, though I will take to heart the lesson that some devs may in fact be communicative only for the purposes of the long con, and likely be a little more suspicious.

As far as lucky/unlucky... launch altcoin speculation is a numbers game, where a big win can wipe a lot of small losses. So exposure to "bad luck" or riskier/scammier projects is minimized, while I load more into better bets and let winners run. I could have lost 10x what I did on Wrapper and still been up for the year due to being in DBIC really heavy earlier in the year. So in terms of risk management, I think I was careful enough. If Wrapper was a premeditated scam rather than a fail-and-abandon situation, then I feel dumb, but I didn't take a heavy loss, so my risk management is working.

One thing that has changed for me is having a lot of people watching what I'm doing. It's a new element that I'm still adjusting to... the idea that I could be held responsible for decisions other people make because they're following me. Most people should know it doesn't work like that but emotions are not completely absent from trading and I'm just some semi-anon asshole out there so if something goes wrong for someone who followed me, hey, why not blame notsofast. All I can do is be truthful and direct, and if I'm accused of lying or scamming, then fuck, so be it, I'm not really going to change. I'm conscious of wording things in a way that doesn't look like investment advice, like, I'll say "I bought this coin" or "this looks decent" instead of "you should buy this coin" or "buy [coin] now or cry later". Real talk: I could say whatever, and if you follow me and lose, that's 100% your fault. But I try to aspire to a standard above that, and be a good example, and if I fuck up, I fuck up publicly and cop to it. Whether or not you believe me is up to you.

[hungry mama]

wrapperdev=notsofast?

I can't believe he was this involved and didn't realize it was a scam, being in this space for a long time. Long after the shit hits the fan he comes along and says "what the hell happened?" when all investors know less than him. Not very believable. At worst he is the "Dev", at best he shilled it and dumped. There are no good guys in crypto, just ones who haven't tried to fuck you yet.

Are you trying to "fuck" us too ?!
Is there any proof that wrapperdev is notsofast.
This doesn't sound believable at all.

I myself tweeted "That this ICO is a Zcoin clone. Almost 100% & devs promised to "become more".
Anyone who can read code saw that it's a Zcoin close.

The only thing that made wrapper different... were the graphics.
The only one you should blame is yourself.

I take risks and lose, same as anybody else.

WrapperTeam contacted me first, asking for advice. I gave them some advice and we struck up a conversation through which I decided I'd give them some help.

They seemed legitimate to me through our conversations and if that was a long con/social engineering attack designed to fool me all along, then shame on me, but damn did they put a lot of work into it.

I could publish screenshots of twitter dms between myself and WrapperTeam but I suppose I'd just get accused of using a puppet account or photoshopping the conversation.

hungry mama, thanks for your opinion, but I don't have time to run more than one account or internet identity. I have my own trading and my own projects. Supporting/shilling projects and opportunities I like and have bought into is something I do because a) I am enthusiastic about crypto and b) I like to share that enthusiasm with others who like crypto.

It's unfortunate if anyone-- including me-- lost BTC we bought Wrapper with, but I can't apologize for that because I don't own anyone else's decisions, only my own.

Fair enough. Has anything changed for you in the way you make decisions or do you think you were careful enough and that you were simply unlucky?

Well, the altcoin launch game did undergo a change from 2015 to 2016. The shitty scam projects started to have to work harder to appear legitimate. The bar for that is higher. Like, it's really easy to debunk a devdump altcoin launch that has a block reward of like 6 coins and a "low" 10% premine but a coin cap of 500 billion... the scam devs are now starting to run what looks like a proper project on its surface.

In terms of Wrapper specifically, even though I'm not a mathematician/coder, I could see the value in creating open source code that would make zcoin/zcash blockchains work more efficiently, which is what they explained to me they were trying to do. That, plus the courteous and frequent conversations with Wrapperdev gave me some confidence that their project was worth seeing through. Alarm bells didn't go off for me until the broken code in the launch wallets went unfixed for so long.

Where I'm going with this: I have a big set of criteria, some weighted heavier than others, which I use to determine what to support or speculate on. The criteria are weighted differently and some deal with reducing risk, while others deal with maximizing profit. I learned really early on from other traders/altcoiners that it's worth it to talk to devs privately. You can gather information, feel out their legitimacy, and sometimes gain an opportunity to help. So to answer your question, no, I probably won't abandon my decision criteria, though I will take to heart the lesson that some devs may in fact be communicative only for the purposes of the long con, and likely be a little more suspicious.

As far as lucky/unlucky... launch altcoin speculation is a numbers game, where a big win can wipe a lot of small losses. So exposure to "bad luck" or riskier/scammier projects is minimized, while I load more into better bets and let winners run. I could have lost 10x what I did on Wrapper and still been up for the year due to being in DBIC really heavy earlier in the year. So in terms of risk management, I think I was careful enough. If Wrapper was a premeditated scam rather than a fail-and-abandon situation, then I feel dumb, but I didn't take a heavy loss, so my risk management is working.

One thing that has changed for me is having a lot of people watching what I'm doing. It's a new element that I'm still adjusting to... the idea that I could be held responsible for decisions other people make because they're following me. Most people should know it doesn't work like that but emotions are not completely absent from trading and I'm just some semi-anon asshole out there so if something goes wrong for someone who followed me, hey, why not blame notsofast. All I can do is be truthful and direct, and if I'm accused of lying or scamming, then fuck, so be it, I'm not really going to change. I'm conscious of wording things in a way that doesn't look like investment advice, like, I'll say "I bought this coin" or "this looks decent" instead of "you should buy this coin" or "buy [coin] now or cry later". Real talk: I could say whatever, and if you follow me and lose, that's 100% your fault. But I try to aspire to a standard above that, and be a good example, and if I fuck up, I fuck up publicly and cop to it. Whether or not you believe me is up to you.

Thanks for the comprehensive response and please accept my apologies. Feel free to delete any threads where my post appears, I will do the same. Good luck for 2017.

[bag holder]

this is starting to look as if the dev's just abandoned the project the second they got access to the funds.

 

it was scam since the beginning (copy/past answers), and he will appear again with new scam c-cex ico in near future.

When I asked the dev if he would produce a short video introducing himself he refused. C-cex recommends that's the minimum a dev should do to prove he's legit. I wouldn't recommend investing in any c-cex ICO whose dev won't prove who he is. C-cex itself says it has hosted so many scam ICOs that it can't vouch for any ICO dev.

If this coin's dev starts a new scam c-cex ICO he won't prove who he is.

The c-cex ICO rules recommend that coin developers provide Proof of Developer, Coinsource Trust Index rating, or a short video where coin developers introduce themselves. C-cex also states it can't vouch for coin developers because of scams and other negative events.

Will the wrapper devs be providing Proof of Developer, Trust Index rating, or a short video introducing themselves?

https://c-cex.com/?id=ico

ICO rules

9 Due to recent scams and other negative events, C-CEX can no longer vouch for coin developers. There is no way to verify a developer's identity or to prosecute an individual or team that abandons the projects or otherwise does not adhere to the stated ICO/coin terms without having a substantial legal infrastructure which we can not provide.

10 If the coin developers can not provide a POD (Proof of Developer) or Coinsource Trust Index rating, C-CEX will recommend the provision of a short video where coin developers introduce themselves and their coin and explain the basic concepts behind the coin and why they believe it can be successful.

We are working in getting an interview going where we answer questions and let people know a bit more about the developer team since this seems to be very important for investors.

Is there any update on your work to produce a short video introducing yourselves and your coin?

You will make more from your ICO if you produce that video because few investors trust anonymous devs.

We made contact with a crypto related podcast and if everything goes well we should be on soon. We won't be launching a video and it was never stated anywhere we would do it.

[panda111]

Is there any link to active wallet?thanks.J.