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Author Topic: SILENTARMY v5: Zcash miner, 115 sol/s on R9 Nano, 70 sol/s on GTX 1070  (Read 209263 times)
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November 15, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
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don't need to rush, you are already 40-50% behind claymore Cheesy

That's even more a reason why I would want to be able to rush and beat him!


that guy is playing with us, i bet he already had prepared a fully optimized private miner that he sold to big farms, and now he is giving us little by little...
His V6 gives :

r9 270 : 70-72 sol
r9 380 : 90-95 sol

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November 15, 2016, 06:05:36 PM
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don't need to rush, you are already 40-50% behind claymore Cheesy

That's even more a reason why I would want to be able to rush and beat him!


that guy is playing with us, i bet he already had prepared a fully optimized private miner that he sold to big farms, and now he is giving us little by little...
His V6 gives :

r9 270 : 70-72 sol
r9 380 : 90-95 sol

lol all these guys are screwing with us...there were 100H/S private miners to big GPU farms out on day 1...changes made to increase hashes from 40-100H/s on 470s were trivial. The public miners were obviously gimped on purpose.

Its actually quite brilliant on what all these guys are doing (with the exception of @mrb I give him HUGE props for creating a public open source miner). They are making huge increments in hashrate, which then enables them to keep increasing their fees, and we all love it (hey why not pay 20-30% fee when my hashrate is doubled...right?) Greed of bitcoin mining game has finally reached GPU miners.

What everyone does not realize is that the only winners are these developers and farms...through these brilliant means they are keeping their share of the mining "pie" the same, while everyone else is fighting over the same scraps...dont forget just because your hashrate doubles means nothing...so does everyone else hashrate. We are actually earning LESS because through this smoke and mirror tactics devs/pools/farms are able to earn more from our expense (and equipment and power costs), AND we are HAPPY with it.

Don't fall for it...I think the best course would be to 100% support mrbs efforts...tip him and the devs working with him what they deserve in donations so that open source miner can quickly catch up to Claymours/optiminers.

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November 15, 2016, 06:06:11 PM
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you could not do a normal windows package, instead of installing python and all the linux stuff? not all people are able to use this miner Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Genoil's package not working?

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r9 270 : 70-72 sol
r9 380 : 90-95 sol
I know what need to do for get same performance, but it's not trivial patch, it's full equihash round code rewritting, need a time.

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November 15, 2016, 06:14:17 PM
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don't need to rush, you are already 40-50% behind claymore Cheesy

That's even more a reason why I would want to be able to rush and beat him!


that guy is playing with us, i bet he already had prepared a fully optimized private miner that he sold to big farms, and now he is giving us little by little...
His V6 gives :

r9 270 : 70-72 sol
r9 380 : 90-95 sol

lol all these guys are screwing with us...there were 100H/S private miners to big GPU farms out on day 1...changes made to increase hashes from 40-100H/s on 470s were trivial. The public miners were obviously gimped on purpose.

Its actually quite brilliant on what all these guys are doing (with the exception of @mrb I give him HUGE props for creating a public open source miner). They are making huge increments in hashrate, which then enables them to keep increasing their fees, and we all love it (hey why not pay 20-30% fee when my hashrate is doubled...right?) Greed of bitcoin mining game has finally reached GPU miners.

What everyone does not realize is that the only winners are these developers and farms...through these brilliant means they are keeping their share of the mining "pie" the same, while everyone else is fighting over the same scraps...dont forget just because your hashrate doubles means nothing...so does everyone else hashrate. We are actually earning LESS because through this smoke and mirror tactics devs/pools/farms are able to earn more from our expense (and equipment and power costs), AND we are HAPPY with it.

Don't fall for it...I think the best course would be to 100% support mrbs efforts...tip him and the devs working with him what they deserve in donations so that open source miner can quickly catch up to Claymours/optiminers.

I totally agree with you, altough i use claymore miner at the moment because of the mentioned speed.
I like the part "dont forget just because your hashrate doubles means nothing...so does everyone else hashrate" , this is what i am telling my miner friends, but they don't get it, they think they make more profit with the new speedups Cheesy
Mrb,extremal,nerdralph, cudos to you guys, i really appreciate your work and effort.
I myself am a php programmer, but that language is too stupid compared to c/c++ you are working with on this miner.
Because of your opensource silentarmy i started learning C, and to analyze your code, maybe i learn something.
I like learning new things, altough i know i can't help you with any programming, cause this material is 'too heavy' for me with my php background.
But i will mine to your account a few hours when you release a new version, that will be my mini donation to you guys Smiley

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November 15, 2016, 06:16:57 PM
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For NVidia: processing 2 nonces per iteration gives +5-6% performance, AMD not affected.

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November 15, 2016, 06:18:32 PM
 #1046

you could not do a normal windows package, instead of installing python and all the linux stuff? not all people are able to use this miner Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Genoil's package not working?

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r9 270 : 70-72 sol
r9 380 : 90-95 sol
I know what need to do for get same performance, but it's not trivial patch, it's full equihash round code rewritting, need a time.

Need donation Smiley
Just say the price and we'll gather donations for you(At least I am willing to donate hashpower for you)

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November 15, 2016, 06:20:56 PM
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For NVidia: processing 2 nonces per iteration gives +5-6% performance, AMD not affected.

yeah cuda port can give you 100sol if you run 2x exe per 1070 but nheqminer was usntable (creseh after ~1h) on 5x 1070 and worked fine on 2x 1070.. duno why

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November 15, 2016, 06:29:38 PM
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A little note of experience for members shouting about Claymore and Optiminer's performance...
Since I tested 0.3.3 optiminer one of my cards keeps spitting GPU faults and crashes after an hour or so.
Using silentarmy reduces spits but still...before using optiminer I did not receive any error for 6 straight hours...and now as I said...GPU faults...
Continue using closed source miners and stay in the dark. Just take a quick look at Claymore's topic...180 pages 80% all compains for crashes...
Now I must reflash all my cards and lose continious hash because of that simple silly test...

P.S:
Tue Nov 15 20:31:25 EET 2016 AMDGPU #0 has temp 62°C (103.00%); set fan speed from 66/255 (25.00%) to 66/255 (25.00%)
Tue Nov 15 20:31:25 EET 2016 AMDGPU #1 has temp 61°C (101.00%); set fan speed from 102/255 (40.00%) to 102/255 (40.00%)
Tue Nov 15 20:31:25 EET 2016 AMDGPU #2 has temp 62°C (103.00%); set fan speed from 56/255 (21.00%) to 56/255 (21.00%)
Tue Nov 15 20:31:25 EET 2016 AMDGPU #3 has temp 61°C (101.00%); set fan speed from 45/255 (17.00%) to 50/255 (19.00%)

With Claymore my fans were constantly locked 60+% to keep these temperatures...

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November 15, 2016, 07:29:34 PM
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The recent patch merged by mrb might also improve performance on Nvidia, for me it was 62Sol/s to 70.
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November 15, 2016, 07:46:31 PM
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Update: I am quite busy at the moment because my wife and I are preparing to move to a new house (worst possible timining in this fast-moving zcash mining world... :-/) but I should have enough time to at least continue accepting small changes submitted by people, and then get back to working on silentarmy optimizations "soon".

PS: I committed the Nvidia busywait fix: https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy/commit/a6c3517fc189a934edfa89549664f95b51b965d8

Thanks for the update! We will wait for you  Wink

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November 15, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
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I forgot to mention that you need "Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015" for my Windows port if you don't have it already.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

If you are experiencing problems with my port, you can try installing it.

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November 15, 2016, 08:10:24 PM
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I forgot to mention that you need "Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015" for my Windows port if you don't have it already.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

If you are experiencing problems with my port, you can try installing it.
Working on my GTX760 but hashrate is too low Smiley
Isn't worthy running it for 9S/s

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November 15, 2016, 08:44:38 PM
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I forgot to mention that you need "Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015" for my Windows port if you don't have it already.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

If you are experiencing problems with my port, you can try installing it.
Working on my GTX760 but hashrate is too low Smiley
Isn't worthy running it for 9S/s

Revert to SA v4, see https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy/issues/70
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November 15, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
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I forgot to mention that you need "Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2015" for my Windows port if you don't have it already.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

If you are experiencing problems with my port, you can try installing it.
Working on my GTX760 but hashrate is too low Smiley
Isn't worthy running it for 9S/s

Revert to SA v4, see https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy/issues/70
Yes, Thank you for this. The only problem is card is on my daughter's PC and she loves playing minecraft on windows Smiley
Don't have time and nerves to compile against v4 and in fact it ain't worthy for +10S/s and 100W power usage...
Anyway I am anxious to see eXtremal and yours speed enhancements ASAP.
I started a little project: Ubuntu on a pendrive with silentarmy and my monitor/fan scripts.
Latest kernel 4.9-rc5 has SI support for RX4xx, for now it seems stable.
Also using 3 instances instead of 2 on RX480 gives me additional 2S/s.


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November 15, 2016, 09:15:08 PM
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"Capitalism vs communism mining" shows that with proper $ fee incentive, capitalism beat communism due to human (greedy) nature. Now we have minner sw wars where one side gets 2.5% and thrive with speed well motivated by earnings, while other side gets %0 or free will people donation. We see how it ends. Both author and its users of people version earn less then author and users of paid version. What an mind fk
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November 15, 2016, 09:21:49 PM
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"Capitalism vs communism mining" shows that with proper $ fee incentive, capitalism beat communism due to human (greedy) nature. Now we have minner sw wars where one side gets 2.5% and thrive with speed well motivated by earnings, while other side gets %0 or free will people donation. We see how it ends. Both author and its users of people version earn less then author and users of paid version. What an mind fk

When you can make miner dev your full time job, things get done.

I wouldn't call other "free" miners communism, its a donation based system.  Communism would mine and donate 80% of your hash to someone else lmao
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"Capitalism vs communism mining" shows that with proper $ fee incentive, capitalism beat communism due to human (greedy) nature. Now we have minner sw wars where one side gets 2.5% and thrive with speed well motivated by earnings, while other side gets %0 or free will people donation. We see how it ends. Both author and its users of people version earn less then author and users of paid version. What an mind fk

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November 15, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
 #1058

"Capitalism vs communism mining" shows that with proper $ fee incentive, capitalism beat communism due to human (greedy) nature. Now we have minner sw wars where one side gets 2.5% and thrive with speed well motivated by earnings, while other side gets %0 or free will people donation. We see how it ends. Both author and its users of people version earn less then author and users of paid version. What an mind fk

Sad but mostly true...
Game not finished, wait a several days plz.
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Just say the price and we'll gather donations for you(At least I am willing to donate hashpower for you)
I don't want talk about donations before new SA version.

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November 15, 2016, 09:55:58 PM
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@eXtremal
Agree that NV can be competitive, but I know due the larger AMD community, fee miners and AMD devs are a lot more inclined to release and work on miners, so ppl/miners are even more happy with paying then getting free miners, due their interests
just wish that some fair distribution can be done in better way then its today

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claymore's disassembler scandal really hurt linux miners...
linux 40% slower than windows....
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