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November 16, 2016, 04:12:33 AM |
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Looks like I won't be testing silentarmy tweaks tomorrow. I upgraded a rig to Ubuntu 16.04 and installed the amdgpu-pro drivers (16.40-348864). It took me a while to figure out I had to remove fglrx-config in order to remove the amdgpu-pro module blacklist. Now Xorg is running 100%, and it (or something else) is spewing tons of "Failed to send Message" to kern.log. Probably should've setup a separate test rig with a fresh Ubuntu install...
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bardacuda
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November 16, 2016, 04:20:05 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
True about needing to do proper workload for profit, but by your calculations, 1070 is 22% more profit per day, which is good until you factor in you can get a 480 for $200 on a good sale, and it is hard to find a 1070 much below $400. 480 per day has been between ~0.0030 BTC and ~0.0042, so it is best for mining right now. Also true about up-front costs. However, ppl complaining that zec miners need to be more optimized for nVidia are barking up the wrong tree. Even if a miner was optimized for nVidia, how much better do you think it's going to be? It's still not going to outperform a 480 in a memory-hard algorithm. Best to find a different coin to mine.
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xeridea
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November 16, 2016, 04:43:11 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
True about needing to do proper workload for profit, but by your calculations, 1070 is 22% more profit per day, which is good until you factor in you can get a 480 for $200 on a good sale, and it is hard to find a 1070 much below $400. 480 per day has been between ~0.0030 BTC and ~0.0042, so it is best for mining right now. Also true about up-front costs. However, ppl complaining that zec miners need to be more optimized for nVidia are barking up the wrong tree. Even if a miner was optimized for nVidia, how much better do you think it's going to be? It's still not going to outperform a 480 in a memory-hard algorithm. Best to find a different coin to mine. This. It's silly I keep seeing people want an optimized Nvidia miner, when in the end, it wouldn't be a good choice going with Nvidia. Best case 1070 is similar speed to 480, like on Ethereum.
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Profitability over time charts for many GPUs - http://xeridea.us/chartsBTC: bc1qr2xwjwfmjn43zhrlp6pn7vwdjrjnv5z0anhjhn LTC: LXDm6sR4dkyqtEWfUbPumMnVEiUFQvxSbZ Eth: 0x44cCe2cf90C8FEE4C9e4338Ae7049913D4F6fC24
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Velgelm
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November 16, 2016, 07:04:28 AM |
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Genoil Lastest Windows Port GTX 1070+960 instances=2 OC: 1070 +700 MEM 960 Stock Processor Core i3 2100 Load 7-12% - Low CPU Usage confirmed!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi639%2F1611%2Fe0%2Fdc4d874f79a5t.jpg&t=665&c=ItBiN6sCljVjJA)
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mrb (OP)
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November 16, 2016, 07:13:58 AM |
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November 16, 2016, 08:13:39 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
i'm curious what altcoin you are folding exactly, the old gridcoin, or foldingcoin? i don't remember such profit for folding since a very long time, also folding is very cpu dependent, you have an hevay load there Genoil Lastest Windows Port GTX 1070+960 instances=2 OC: 1070 +700 MEM 960 Stock Processor Core i3 2100 Load 7-12% - Low CPU Usage confirmed!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi639%2F1611%2Fe0%2Fdc4d874f79a5t.jpg&t=665&c=ItBiN6sCljVjJA) can you point me the genoil windows version?
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November 16, 2016, 08:16:58 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
True about needing to do proper workload for profit, but by your calculations, 1070 is 22% more profit per day, which is good until you factor in you can get a 480 for $200 on a good sale, and it is hard to find a 1070 much below $400. 480 per day has been between ~0.0030 BTC and ~0.0042, so it is best for mining right now. Also true about up-front costs. However, ppl complaining that zec miners need to be more optimized for nVidia are barking up the wrong tree. Even if a miner was optimized for nVidia, how much better do you think it's going to be? It's still not going to outperform a 480 in a memory-hard algorithm. Best to find a different coin to mine. This. It's silly I keep seeing people want an optimized Nvidia miner, when in the end, it wouldn't be a good choice going with Nvidia. Best case 1070 is similar speed to 480, like on Ethereum. yup, like I said, just go back to gaming, find another coin, or sell for AMD gpu nvidia has higher upfront cost, give you longer time for ROI. even if there are coin dev (and yes there was) that create algorithm that suit and optimized for nvidia, and launch optimized miner before coin launch, AMD still beat it on performance/cost (atleast upfront cost and time to ROI)
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Amph
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November 16, 2016, 08:23:53 AM |
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Genoil Lastest Windows Port GTX 1070+960 instances=2 OC: 1070 +700 MEM 960 Stock Processor Core i3 2100 Load 7-12% - Low CPU Usage confirmed!![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs019.radikal.ru%2Fi639%2F1611%2Fe0%2Fdc4d874f79a5t.jpg&t=665&c=ItBiN6sCljVjJA) can you point me the genoil windows version? https://github.com/Genoil/silentarmy/tree/windows[/quote] there is a compiled version out there?
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Velgelm
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November 16, 2016, 08:32:30 AM |
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yep
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Amph
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November 16, 2016, 08:34:18 AM |
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yep
where? on that link there is only a v.3 that is too old and not compiled
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Amph
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November 16, 2016, 08:42:17 AM |
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this isn't standalone, still require python to be installed, tried it, but it does not work right, with 6 gpu it mine at almost 0% usage on all of them
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November 16, 2016, 09:13:37 AM |
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can somone please release a version for windows for NVidia ?
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November 16, 2016, 10:13:24 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
i'm curious what altcoin you are folding exactly, the old gridcoin, or foldingcoin? i don't remember such profit for folding since a very long time, also folding is very cpu dependent, you have an hevay load there CURE and FLDC merge folding. FLDC also pays out MAGICFLDC as well as PEPECASH, but those are not worth much. Folding is not CPU intensive at all (unless you are CPU folding) With a decent CPU though you can get another 100k+ PPD if you want to fold on it as well.
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November 16, 2016, 10:33:31 AM |
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Like Quint said, nVidia is way better at F@H than AMD. A GTX 1070 can get at least 600K PPD while folding, which equates to about 25 CURE and 2250 FLDC per day...which in turn equates to about 0.0038BTC per day for a single 1070 at current prices. Looking at whattomine.com I am seeing that for 150 Sol/s (about what a 480 or 290 can do) you net the equivalent of 0.003 - 0.0032 BTC per day. So nVidia has things it is better at and can be more profitable. You just need to mine (or fold for) a coin that is more suited to the hardware. It's not the devs' fault that most algos are better suited to AMD.
i'm curious what altcoin you are folding exactly, the old gridcoin, or foldingcoin? i don't remember such profit for folding since a very long time, also folding is very cpu dependent, you have an hevay load there CURE and FLDC merge folding. FLDC also pays out MAGICFLDC as well as PEPECASH, but those are not worth much. Folding is not CPU intensive at all (unless you are CPU folding) With a decent CPU though you can get another 100k+ PPD if you want to fold on it as well. And there goes profitability down the toilet... Payouts are only once per month so you will have to wait your btc a while. Payday dumps happen too.
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November 16, 2016, 12:20:06 PM |
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thanks Extremal, gonna try it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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